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Queens high school tops city’s list of most suspended students

Richmond Hill HS is suspending more of its students than any other school in New York City.

The Queens secondary school, which has 2,169 students, handed out 492 suspensions as of May 5, according to city records.

That’s more than the 473 school officials doled out all of last year — and there’s still about six weeks left before classes end.

Vishnu Mahadeo, the school’s PTA president, blamed the high punishment rate on overcrowding and “weak leadership.”

“We have a new principal that is trying to bring up a behavior code,” he said. “When you don’t have strong leadership, the kids tend to be a little bit out of control. When you have a strong leadership, things change.”

Parents familiar with the school said overcrowding and disciplinary problems go hand-in-hand.

“When you push kids into overcrowded conditions, many will react in frustration and anger because it shows a school system doesn’t care about them,” said parent advocate Leonia Haimson.

The school’s principal, Neil Ganesh, didn’t return calls. He’s the third person appointed to lead the school in the last three years.

Other schools leading the suspension list include: Staten Island’s Susan Wagner HS, with 420; Democracy and Leadership HS in Brooklyn, with 313; Sheepshead Bay HS in Brooklyn with 266; Martin Van Buren HS in Queens with 264; and Lehman HS in The Bronx with 254.

Last year, Sheepshead Bay led the city with 480 suspensions. The 1,005-student school is known as a “dumping ground” for “overage and under-credited” students who have been pushed out of other schools.

Some schools managed even steeper drops than Sheepshead Bay. Grace Dodge Career and Technical Education HS in The Bronx, which suspended 287 students last year, was down to 34 this year.

Muba Yarofulani, co-president of the Coalition for Public Education advocacy group, said there would be fewer suspensions if principals had to explain their high numbers.

“Nobody is holding them accountable for these suspensions and the manner in which they are being done,” she said.

Department of Education spokesman Harry Hartfield said that finding alternatives to suspensions is a “priority” for the administration.

“Toward that end, we have been committed to working with advocate groups, principals and community members to address this issue,” he said.

Suspensions have dropped since 2011-12, when there were 69,643. There were 53,465 in the 2012-13 school year, and so far this year 44,026 students have been slammed with the punishment.

http://nypost.com/2014/05/17/q...-suspended-students/

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And yet druggie and the rest of the brown bai KKK spend all day screaming that blacks are inferior.

Guyanese have higher drop out rates than do Jamaicans. Unless druggie can prove that black Guyanese are doing worse than Jamaicans, it appears as if this is because of what is happening to the Indo kids, and here we see indications of a problem!

Druggie should go help VM assist these kids, rather than pretending as if only blacks have problems!

FM

Where do you see Jamaicans mentioned in this article????  The Jamaican kids residing in New York are way ahead of their Guyanese counterparts. 

This has nothing to do with race.  I know a certain Guyanese Math teacher at this school who has been on the payroll for a few years now and never shows up for work.  Apparently she is very  accident proned and is always out of work on disability collecting her full salary while living in her posh Deer Park residence.  The city needs to fire these people and get competent teachers at this school. 

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:

 I know a certain Guyanese Math teacher at this school who has been on the payroll for a few years now and never shows up for work.  Apparently she is very  accident proned and is always out of work on disability collecting her full salary while living in her posh Deer Park residence.  The city needs to fire these people and get competent teachers at this school. 

You should pass the info to Vish

Pointblank
caribny posted:

And yet druggie and the rest of the brown bai KKK spend all day screaming that blacks are inferior.

Guyanese have higher drop out rates than do Jamaicans. Unless druggie can prove that black Guyanese are doing worse than Jamaicans, it appears as if this is because of what is happening to the Indo kids, and here we see indications of a problem!

Druggie should go help VM assist these kids, rather than pretending as if only blacks have problems!

Why  the racist shit?

Mitwah
Pointblank posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

 I know a certain Guyanese Math teacher at this school who has been on the payroll for a few years now and never shows up for work.  Apparently she is very  accident proned and is always out of work on disability collecting her full salary while living in her posh Deer Park residence.  The city needs to fire these people and get competent teachers at this school. 

You should pass the info to Vish

He knows the person.

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Where do you see Jamaicans mentioned in this article????  The Jamaican kids residing in New York are way ahead of their Guyanese counterparts. 

This has nothing to do with race.  I know a certain Guyanese Math teacher at this school who has been on the payroll for a few years now and never shows up for work.  Apparently she is very  accident proned and is always out of work on disability collecting her full salary while living in her posh Deer Park residence.  The city needs to fire these people and get competent teachers at this school. 

Why is that Bibi any specific reasons ?

Django
caribny posted:

And yet druggie and the rest of the brown bai KKK spend all day screaming that blacks are inferior.

Guyanese have higher drop out rates than do Jamaicans. Unless druggie can prove that black Guyanese are doing worse than Jamaicans, it appears as if this is because of what is happening to the Indo kids, and here we see indications of a problem!

Druggie should go help VM assist these kids, rather than pretending as if only blacks have problems!

Mr resident Indo hater, let us deal with the facts in a logical manner. Here are the statistics by race.  Let us assume that the Asian 33% below are all of IndoG descent, that means we still have 46 + 17 % Hispanic/Black for a total of 63%.

You will concede that Blacks and Hispanics are predominantly the trouble makers as they are the majority population of our prison system in the US.  It could very well be surmised that those suspended comprise of a negligible amount of IndoGs. 

Student diversity

 

 This schoolState average
Hispanic46%23%
Asian or Asian/Pacific Islander33%9%
Black17%19%
White3%48%
American Indian/Alaska Native1%1%
Two or more races0%1%
FM
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Where do you see Jamaicans mentioned in this article????  The Jamaican kids residing in New York are way ahead of their Guyanese counterparts. 

This has nothing to do with race.  I know a certain Guyanese Math teacher at this school who has been on the payroll for a few years now and never shows up for work.  Apparently she is very  accident proned and is always out of work on disability collecting her full salary while living in her posh Deer Park residence.  The city needs to fire these people and get competent teachers at this school. 

Why is that Bibi any specific reasons ?

I don't know what the exact answer is.  The Jamaican kids seem to come from stronger households and in many cases their parents are professionals and they serve as good role models.  Jamaican parents are strong disciplinarians.  Richmond Hill High School has a big drug problem also which contributes to poor performance.  Many of the students come from homes where both parents work and have little time to provide proper parenting.

Bibi Haniffa
Mitwah posted:
caribny posted:

And yet druggie and the rest of the brown bai KKK spend all day screaming that blacks are inferior.

Guyanese have higher drop out rates than do Jamaicans. Unless druggie can prove that black Guyanese are doing worse than Jamaicans, it appears as if this is because of what is happening to the Indo kids, and here we see indications of a problem!

Druggie should go help VM assist these kids, rather than pretending as if only blacks have problems!

Why  the racist shit?

Bhai, You asked why???  He is what he is, you should never be surprise!!!

Nehru
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Where do you see Jamaicans mentioned in this article????  The Jamaican kids residing in New York are way ahead of their Guyanese counterparts. 

This has nothing to do with race.  I know a certain Guyanese Math teacher at this school who has been on the payroll for a few years now and never shows up for work.  Apparently she is very  accident proned and is always out of work on disability collecting her full salary while living in her posh Deer Park residence.  The city needs to fire these people and get competent teachers at this school. 

Why is that Bibi any specific reasons ?

I don't know what the exact answer is.  The Jamaican kids seem to come from stronger households and in many cases their parents are professionals and they serve as good role models.  Jamaican parents are strong disciplinarians.  Richmond Hill High School has a big drug problem also which contributes to poor performance.  Many of the students come from homes where both parents work and have little time to provide proper parenting.

Not good.

Personally when i migrate in 1996,with two kids eldest was 17 my younger son was 7 yrs,we moved to Connecticut with the help of a friend after spending 3 wks in Queens[wanted to go back home did not like the area] ,too expensive to live there for proper housing.After 3 yrs we were able to own our home in a good town we were about 20 Indo Guyanese living there[will not state i am not the show off type] my younger son had great schooling,highly disciplined school system,drugs,racial slurs,you are out.

My view parents have to make sacrifice for the betterment of their children,is it not that why we migrate to first world.

Django
Nehru posted:
Mitwah posted:
caribny posted:

And yet druggie and the rest of the brown bai KKK spend all day screaming that blacks are inferior.

Guyanese have higher drop out rates than do Jamaicans. Unless druggie can prove that black Guyanese are doing worse than Jamaicans, it appears as if this is because of what is happening to the Indo kids, and here we see indications of a problem!

Druggie should go help VM assist these kids, rather than pretending as if only blacks have problems!

Why  the racist shit?

Bhai, You asked why???  He is what he is, you should never be surprise!!!

I am beginning to believe that he is suffering from a neurological disorder.  

Mitwah

I am beginning to believe that he is suffering from a neurological disorder.  

 

He was born that way and got reinforcements at Sophia University. He is what he is now for life. Nothing can change such an animal, not even Pavlov.

Nehru
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Where do you see Jamaicans mentioned in this article????  

NYC has statistics on immigrants. Familiarize yourself with it.

I bring up race because your fellow brown bai KKK do.  How often do we see them screaming about black failure. 

I am telling them that the Indo Guyanese community has similar problems, and they ought to focus on that, instead of pretending that Indians are superior.

Once again you attack me, instead of them.

Clearly we know how racist you must be!

FM
Mitwah posted:
caribny posted:

And yet druggie and the rest of the brown bai KKK spend all day screaming that blacks are inferior.

Guyanese have higher drop out rates than do Jamaicans. Unless druggie can prove that black Guyanese are doing worse than Jamaicans, it appears as if this is because of what is happening to the Indo kids, and here we see indications of a problem!

Druggie should go help VM assist these kids, rather than pretending as if only blacks have problems!

Why  the racist shit?

What is racist?  Druggie for implying that blacks are inferior, or me for showing them evidence that Indo Caribbean people also have social problems.

Given how GNI operates, I know that druggie will be celebrated. as he ignores certain facts, because bashing blacks is really what GNI celebrates!

Why do you think that GNI has very few blacks posting.  When they left, they were very explicit about the reasons why.

In fact when I was off the site for one month, it was amazing how quickly this place descended into a cesspit of anti black bigotry, given that I wasn't there to challenge it!

FM
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Bibi Haniffa posted:
 

I don't know what the exact answer is.  The Jamaican kids seem to come from stronger households and in many cases their parents are professionals and they serve as good role models.  Jamaican parents are strong disciplinarians.  Richmond Hill High School has a big drug problem also which contributes to poor performance.  Many of the students come from homes where both parents work and have little time to provide proper parenting.

What ever the reason is.  Here you go calling me a racist for establishing a fact.

Guyanese have HIGHER drop out rates than do Jamaicans, and even Haitians.

Now we can make one of two assumptions.  One being that black Guyanese kids are doing worse than other black Caribbean kids. Not likely, given that they exist within the same socio cultural context.

So then we can assume that Indo Caribbean kids have problems. Note worthy that the group just behind Guyanese were Trinidadians.

FM
Drugb posted:
 

Mr resident Indo hater, let us deal with the facts in a logical manner. Here are the statistics by race.  Let us assume that the Asian 33% below are all of IndoG descent, that means we still have 46 + 17 % Hispanic/Black for a total of 63%.

You will concede that Blacks and Hispanics are predominantly the trouble makers as they are the majority population of our prison system in the US.  It could very well be surmised that those suspended comprise of a negligible amount of IndoGs. 

Student diversity

 

 This schoolState average
Hispanic46%23%
Asian or Asian/Pacific Islander33%9%
Black17%19%
White3%48%
American Indian/Alaska Native1%1%
Two or more races0%1%

Blacks are only 17%, BELOW the average.  If the problems were because of blacks other schools with far higher black populations, would have higher suspension rates than RH.

Guyanese kids have the HIGHEST drop out rates among non Hispanic Caribbean kids. This according to NYC data for immigrants, which is publicly available.  Next are the Trini kids, followed by Jamaicans and Haitians.

You know its interesting that we can spend all day talking about black pathologies, and that is OK. But the minute that one suggests that Indo Caribbean people track more closely to blacks and Hispanics in their social dysfunction, than to Asian Indians, all hell lets loose.

No wonder so many blacks think that GNI is an anti black hate site.

FM
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Mr resident Indo hater, let us deal with the facts in a logical manner. Here are the statistics by race.  Let us assume that the Asian 33% below are all of IndoG descent, that means we still have 46 + 17 % Hispanic/Black for a total of 63%.

You will concede that Blacks and Hispanics are predominantly the trouble makers as they are the majority population of our prison system in the US.  It could very well be surmised that those suspended comprise of a negligible amount of IndoGs. 

Student diversity

 

 This schoolState average
Hispanic46%23%
Asian or Asian/Pacific Islander33%9%
Black17%19%
White3%48%
American Indian/Alaska Native1%1%
Two or more races0%1%

Blacks are only 17%, BELOW the average.  If the problems were because of blacks other schools with far higher black populations, would have higher suspension rates than RH.

Guyanese kids have the HIGHEST drop out rates among non Hispanic Caribbean kids. This according to NYC data for immigrants, which is publicly available.  Next are the Trini kids, followed by Jamaicans and Haitians.

You know its interesting that we can spend all day talking about black pathologies, and that is OK. But the minute that one suggests that Indo Caribbean people track more closely to blacks and Hispanics in their social dysfunction, than to Asian Indians, all hell lets loose.

No wonder so many blacks think that GNI is an anti black hate site.

 Can you point me to this data that states that Guyanese kids have the highest rate of dropout?  I noticed you mentioned Guyanese and not Indo or Afro Guyanese. Interesting as it could very well be that those dropping out at record rates that you claim could be Afro Guyanese.  Not sure why you are on this campaign to besmirch the character of Indo Guyanese.  Unless you were indeed rejected by an Indian woman once as stated more than a decade ago on GNI when you were GuyanaJ. 

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Pointblank posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

 I know a certain Guyanese Math teacher at this school who has been on the payroll for a few years now and never shows up for work.  Apparently she is very  accident proned and is always out of work on disability collecting her full salary while living in her posh Deer Park residence.  The city needs to fire these people and get competent teachers at this school. 

You should pass the info to Vish

He knows the person.

And et that person is still on the staff. like he getting a lil something to look the other way.

Pointblank
Drugb posted:
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 Can you point me to this data that states that Guyanese kids have the highest rate of dropout?  I noticed you mentioned Guyanese and not Indo or Afro Guyanese. Interesting as it could very well be that those dropping out at record rates that you claim could be Afro Guyanese.  Not sure why you are on this campaign to besmirch the character of Indo Guyanese.  Unless you were indeed rejected by an Indian woman once as stated more than a decade ago on GNI when you were GuyanaJ. 

Given that Afro Guyanese live within the same socio cultural context, as do Jamaicans and other black West Indians, it is hardly likely that their performance would differ.  They would face the same problems, and respond the same way, so their outcomes will be similar.

Note that the 2 highest (of the 4 non Hispanic Caribbean groups) are the two with high Indo Caribbean populations.  Note also that in NYC Indos are a higher % of the Guyanese, than of the Trini population, and that Guyanese have higher drop out rates.  So even here we see some confirmation.

Source is Chapter 4 of the Profile of the Foreign Born,  written by the NYC statistics department.

I suggest that, instead of fooling yourself that you are better than blacks, that you go and help VM with his work to improve the condition of Indo Caribbean people.  Noteworthy he isn't one to come here, making claims about blacks.

FM
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Richmond Hill HS is only 1 of 12 NYC schools to offer computer classes 

It also boost about its public private partnership with Zara realty with its state of the art Media Center

I am also around to be the parent that sued NYC Board of Education to remove the trailers

Vish M
Vish M posted:

I guess some posts old news to Start a conversation.

Poor taste, we are in the North and not in Guyana.

Mars, grow up

WTF is your problem rat face? That's the purpose of posting anything on this forum. To start a conversation. I didn't know that there is a statute of limitation on GNI which restricts old articles from being posted. Look around and see how many old articles are posted or how many discussions there are about historical events. Burnham has been dead for 31 years now and his name is mentioned here every day. Have you ever objected to that? Get a life.

Mars
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Vish M posted:

as a senior member, i expected better manners.

But i guess you can take one out of the gutter but you can never take the gutter out of them.

You are just an ideal example

Shut up rat face. You're on vacation in Guyana with your begging bowl and writing crap on GNI. If I were on vacation I'd be out and about, not sitting on a computer on GNI.

I'm not a gutter rat like you from some punt trench backdam. I was never arrested for beating up anybody like you and your cohorts. Get a life loser.

Mars
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Lord, real cuss down, but I suspect that VM is accustomed to that.

Good that RH has improved, but that is not the only high school attended by Indo Caribs.

In addition what are the prospects for those who left before these improvements occurred? Clearly there are still issues among Indo Caribs, which was my thrust.

FM

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