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Dr. Rishi Thakur, a one-time supporter of the Alliance For Change (AFC), has jumped ship and joined A Partnership For National Unity (APNU), saying he had major disagreements over corruption and the discourse on race and politics.

The University of Guyana (UG) political scientist is among APNU’s 26-member leadership.

Asked why he parted company with the AFC, he explained that that party had failed to address concerns about corruption Region Six – East Berbice/ Corentyne.

“It’s not a change of heart; it’s the commitment and diligence to which they were going to pursue the questions of corruption, corrupt practices and not just the way in which Georgetown was involved but how communities were being brought on board,” Thakur told Demerara Waves Online News ( www.demwaves.com )

Thakur chided the AFC for having a lackluster approach to addressing the issue of race and crossing historical racial barriers and bridging the racial-political divide.

“It didn’t seem to me that they were interested in pursuing it with the kind of diligence and commitment we felt was necessary and which, in fact, is necessary because we are not going to go anywhere until we can begin to speak to each other in an honest and open manner,” he added.

Reacting, AFC executive member, Gerhard Ramsaroop told Demerara Waves Online News that his party regretted Thakur’s decision and still considered him a valuable person.

“We don’t see him as a reject, we see it as a loss but at the same time, we are stiull making tremendous strides as clearly seen in Whim last Saturday where at least 1,000 persons attended a march and meeting,” said Ramsaroop, adding that Thakur had not been campaigning for some time now.

Party insiders told Demerara Waves on condition of anonymity that while Thakur had done a lot of work, there were lots of disagreements and personality conflict with some persons in the Upper Corentyne area.

Party officials were somewhat surprised by Thakur’s decision, saying that up to Thursday, he had given assurances that he had been still with the AFC.

Thakur's exit comes days after former Peoples National Congress Reform (PNCR) member, Richard Vanwest Charles and former Peoples Progressive Party member, Rajendra Bissessar defected to the AFC. The AFC says it is also talking with the PPPC's Moses Nagamootoo with a view to offering him a "high position".

Meanwhile, reacting to the announcement of APNU’s leadership team, the governing Peoples Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) said it “confirms a widely held view that this so-called alliance is a mere political makeover of the PNC” for general elections slated for November 28.

“A cursory glance at the list announced today reveals that that 96% of persons are affiliated with the PNC. Another startling fact is that many were part of the PNC when that party was in Government, showing clearly that many of the young and new faces, who until recently held prominent positions in the PNC, choose not to be part of this electoral scheme,” PPPC campaign spokesman, Robert Persaud said in an initial reaction.

Calling APNU the PNC by another name, Persaud noted that APNU prime ministerial candidate, Rupert Roopnaraine comes from a bygone political era and without any political supporters and cannot take away from the fact that the APNU is unable to present a credible, forward-looking team.

“Further, many PNC supporters, especially the younger ones who are joining the ranks of the PPP/C complain that they are yet to either hear or read about the group's vision for Guyana,” he said in apparent reference to APNU’s yet to be unveiled manifesto.

“Clearly, the APNU leadership is just more of the old PNC by another name with more of the same, old and failed ideas,” he added.

The PPP/C promised to reach out to frustrated PNC members, especially youths.

Roopnaraine earlier Tuesday acknowledged that the leadership team was heavily weighted in favour of the Peoples National Congress Reform (PNCR) because it is the dominant and largest member of the coalition.

APNU is made up of the PNCR, Working Peoples Alliance (WPA), Guyana Action Party (GAP) and the following least known or recognized parties--National Front Alliance (NFA) and theGuyana Peoples Partnership (GPP), Guyana National Congress (GNC) and the National Democratic Front (NDF).

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Dr. Rishi Thakur, a one-time supporter of the Alliance For Change (AFC), has jumped ship



Probably Dr. Rishi Thakur saw the writing on the wall....and noticed the chances of an A.F.C victory or even getting back into Parliament is not even astronomical....
FM
quote...Even though with this short coming, they are the best in the bunch...unquote

Oh really, then why so many are jumping over board?

Peter Ramsaroop

Goumattie Singh

Dr. Rishi Thakur...etc...etc...etc..
FM
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Originally posted by albert:
quote...Even though with this short coming, they are the best in the bunch...unquote

Oh really, then why so many are jumping over board?

Peter Ramsaroop

Goumattie Singh

Dr. Rishi Thakur...etc...etc...etc..


They need leadership to hold them together. Right now, it appears their directions are helter skelter. But they are advancing steadfast.

By leadership, I mean party leadership-not Presidential of Prime Ministership.

The component that is missing in the movement is Party leadership.
S
quote...“It didn’t seem to me that they were interested in pursuing it with the kind of diligence and commitment we felt was necessary and which, in fact, is necessary because we are not going to go anywhere until we can begin to speak to each other in an honest and open manner,”...unquote...
FM
Good luck to him. He was hardly visible in the AFC as such decided to make some news and feel important. Gerhard is active in Guyana, have you ever seen this individual taking the podium with him?
FM
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Originally posted by albert:
TK..whats your thoughts on the recent defection by Dr. Rishi Thakur?...were his statements about the cake shop party accurate?


Mr Thakur is free to associate with which ever political party he wants. Isn't this the way how the democratic system is supposed to work? You should be more worried about the ex-riggers and HOI thugs PPP now houses.
T
Opposition leader and PNCR leader Robert Corbin, speaking during an interview on Dr Van West Charles’ decision to join the AFC, stated that party always saw him as an “ opportunist”. Corbin said that Van West Charles was “ never with the PNCR”. Questioned what he meant by this, he explained that the doctor was always with “ Van West Charles and his personal ambitions”. “ He capitalised on marrying Burnham’s daughter and got through with a scholarship to do medicine; came back to Guyana and got a minister of health position without any political work in the fields. In fact, he was given a name – Baby Jesus meaning that he had arrived without any work and was blessed be cause he was Burnham’s son- in- law ,” Corbin said
FM
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Originally posted by albert:
Opposition leader and PNCR leader Robert Corbin, speaking during an interview on Dr Van West Charles’ decision to join the AFC, stated that party always saw him as an “ opportunist”. Corbin said that Van West Charles was “ never with the PNCR”. Questioned what he meant by this, he explained that the doctor was always with “ Van West Charles and his personal ambitions”. “ He capitalised on marrying Burnham’s daughter and got through with a scholarship to do medicine; came back to Guyana and got a minister of health position without any political work in the fields. In fact, he was given a name – Baby Jesus meaning that he had arrived without any work and was blessed be cause he was Burnham’s son- in- law ,” Corbin said


Haha...I see Corbin is ya'll bai. Is that why the Oligarch-in-Chief gave him a big leader of opposition pension package?
T
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Party insiders told Demerara Waves on condition of anonymity that while Thakur had done a lot of work, there were lots of disagreements and personality conflict with some persons in the Upper Corentyne area.


Super ego centrism at play......
FM
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Originally posted by albert:
Another startling fact is that Dr. Van West Charles was part of the PNC when that party was in Government....



Whats startling about that ? Wasn't Kit Nasimento part of the PNC govt before he joined the champion and his merry men ? also Lumumba ? Khawme ? Mannie ? etc....


BTW...I don't care for Van West Charles.....
FM
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Originally posted by albert:
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Party insiders told Demerara Waves on condition of anonymity that while Thakur had done a lot of work, there were lots of disagreements and personality conflict with some persons in the Upper Corentyne area.


Super ego centrism at play......

Don't worry, AFC ain't. Interesting switch to the PNC.
FM
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Originally posted by albert:
Churchill...whats your thoughts on the recent defection by Dr.Rishi?



I don't care about Thakur's defection from the AFC as I am not a member of that party.....my friends in the AFC however said for some time now he was not pulling his weight....

I care more about the disinterest shown by the grassroot supporters of the PPP a party I have been associated with since the early sixties....

Why this disinterest at this time ? is it because the majority of the grassroot supporters do not support Ramouthar ?...don't you think that folks are aware that Ramouthar was chosen in a less than transparent process ?

Are they disinterested because long serving stalwarts were sidelined whilst former thugs from the HOI and the PNC jumped on the band wagon ?
FM
...Dr. Rishi Thakur, a one-time supporter of the Alliance For Change (AFC), has jumped ship and joined A Partnership For National Unity (APNU), saying he had major disagreements over corruption and the discourse on race and politics.....


Churchill...it seems... according to Dr.Rishi there is massive infighting in the A.F.C...
FM
Before all the PPP partying, ppl were not interested-disllusioned.

I was in Guyana recently. I gathered that from conversations. Not too many I talked to. But those expressed that was the general feelings of the ppl.

Simply put,"Dey daon do nutting for me."
S
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Originally posted by Churchill:
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Originally posted by albert:
Churchill...whats your thoughts on the recent defection by Dr.Rishi?



I don't care about Thakur's defection from the AFC as I am not a member of that party.....my friends in the AFC however said for some time now he was not pulling his weight....

I care more about the disinterest shown by the grassroot supporters of the PPP a party I have been associated with since the early sixties....

Why this disinterest at this time ? is it because the majority of the grassroot supporters do not support Ramouthar ?...don't you think that folks are aware that Ramouthar was chosen in a less than transparent process ?

Are they disinterested because long serving stalwarts were sidelined whilst former thugs from the HOI and the PNC jumped on the band wagon ?

That's "thank you" CBJ style, just ask Balram Singh Rai. dunno
FM
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Originally posted by albert:
...Dr. Rishi Thakur, a one-time supporter of the Alliance For Change (AFC), has jumped ship and joined A Partnership For National Unity (APNU), saying he had major disagreements over corruption and the discourse on race and politics.....


Churchill...it seems... according to Dr.Rishi there is massive infighting in the A.F.C...


I don't know about the internal affairs of the AFC......

I strongly suggest you focus on the infighting within the PPP at this time !....
FM
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Originally posted by albert:
quote...“It didn’t seem to me that they were interested in pursuing it with the kind of diligence and commitment we felt was necessary and which, in fact, is necessary because we are not going to go anywhere until we can begin to speak to each other in an honest and open manner,”...unquote...


It's time you drive the nail in their coffin..
FM
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Originally posted by albert:
Dr.Rishi Thakur...who knows may shine some light about whats really going on in the cake shop....



I am not sure that Thakur would know what's happening at the cake shop in Robb street....
FM
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Originally posted by Churchill:
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Originally posted by albert:
...Dr. Rishi Thakur, a one-time supporter of the Alliance For Change (AFC), has jumped ship and joined A Partnership For National Unity (APNU), saying he had major disagreements over corruption and the discourse on race and politics.....


Churchill...it seems... according to Dr.Rishi there is massive infighting in the A.F.C...


I don't know about the internal affairs of the AFC......

I strongly suggest you focus on the infighting within the PPP at this time !....


There is no infighting within the PPP. Only Moses was not happy because he wanted the leadership.
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Churchill:
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Originally posted by albert:
...Dr. Rishi Thakur, a one-time supporter of the Alliance For Change (AFC), has jumped ship and joined A Partnership For National Unity (APNU), saying he had major disagreements over corruption and the discourse on race and politics.....


Churchill...it seems... according to Dr.Rishi there is massive infighting in the A.F.C...


I don't know about the internal affairs of the AFC......

I strongly suggest you focus on the infighting within the PPP at this time !....


There is no infighting within the PPP. Only Moses was not happy because he wanted the leadership.

lol Big Grin
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

There is no infighting within the PPP. Only Moses was not happy because he wanted the leadership.



The rank and file of the party seems to want him as a leader.....check the voting results at the last congresses....
FM
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Originally posted by Churchill:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

There is no infighting within the PPP. Only Moses was not happy because he wanted the leadership.



The rank and file of the party seems to want him as a leader.....check the voting results at the last congresses....


No, they didn't. he voted in as central committee member. He received the 5th highest vote, that's all. How is that infighting?
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Churchill:
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

There is no infighting within the PPP. Only Moses was not happy because he wanted the leadership.


The infighting took place when the CC was electing the executive committee....Jagdeo,his vultures,the gang of twenty nine and the merry men all ganged up to keep Moses and others out....


The rank and file of the party seems to want him as a leader.....check the voting results at the last congresses....


No, they didn't. he voted in as central committee member. He received the 5th highest vote, that's all. How is that infighting?
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
quote:
Originally posted by Churchill:
quote:
Originally posted by albert:
...Dr. Rishi Thakur, a one-time supporter of the Alliance For Change (AFC), has jumped ship and joined A Partnership For National Unity (APNU), saying he had major disagreements over corruption and the discourse on race and politics.....


Churchill...it seems... according to Dr.Rishi there is massive infighting in the A.F.C...


I don't know about the internal affairs of the AFC......

I strongly suggest you focus on the infighting within the PPP at this time !....


There is no infighting within the PPP. Only Moses was not happy because he wanted the leadership.
thakur have enough sence and honesty not to join the ppp.dont you ppp supporters find it strange that a indian prefer to join the pnc,instead of the ppp
W
The ececutive committee is called the inner cabinet. Jagdeo did not trust him to be a part of the committee. It was jagdeo's call, not the rank and file. If 29 members vote against him, then he lost fair and square.
FM
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Originally posted by warrior:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Churchill:
quote:
Originally posted by albert:
...Dr. Rishi Thakur, a one-time supporter of the Alliance For Change (AFC), has jumped ship and joined A Partnership For National Unity (APNU), saying he had major disagreements over corruption and the discourse on race and politics.....


Churchill...it seems... according to Dr.Rishi there is massive infighting in the A.F.C...


I don't know about the internal affairs of the AFC......

I strongly suggest you focus on the infighting within the PPP at this time !....


There is no infighting within the PPP. Only Moses was not happy because he wanted the leadership.
thakur have enough sence and honesty not to join the ppp.dont you ppp supporters find it strange that a indian prefer to join the pnc,instead of the ppp


Joining the PPP at this stage doees not mean a dick. All the positions for the electoral list has been taken.
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The ececutive committee is called the inner cabinet. Jagdeo did not trust him to be a part of the committee. It was jagdeo's call, not the rank and file. If 29 members vote against him, then he lost fair and square.

When I was in GT last year, there were two names on everyone's lips, Ramkaran and Nagamotoo.
FM

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