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Rohee dodges questions about PPP’s closure of sugar estates while in government

Mr. Rohee accused reporters of seeking to make a comparative analysis of two different situations under two different circumstances but offered no clarification.

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Rohee dodges questions about PPP’s closure of sugar estates while in government

While it continues to criticize the government over its decision to close the Wales sugar estate by this year end, the Opposition People’s Progressive Party, continues to dodge questions about its own past decision to close two other sugar estates while it was in government.

At a press conference on Monday, PPP General Secretary Clement Rohee dodged questions on the PPP’s closure of the two estates at Diamond and La Bonne Intention.

Mr. Rohee accused reporters of seeking to make a comparative analysis of two different situations under two different circumstances but offered no clarification.

The PPP Leader said media operatives must do their independent research and publish their findings.

There are media reports detailing the street protests and strike actions which followed the PPP’s announcement to close those estates in early 2000. However, his criticism of the government’s move to close the Wales estate was extensive.

Rohee said the party salutes sugar workers who took to streets to vent their anger following the announcement of the Wales estate closure.

When asked why the factory was left to reach a state of ruin during the PPP’s 23 years in office, Rohee said the line of questioning was thread worn and again refused to offer any clarifications.

Last week, the government responded to the objections of the PPP and insisted that the decision to close the estate is sound and is in the best interest of Guyana.

The Agriculture Ministry said it would cost taxpayers an average of $2 Billion to keep the estate open and operational.

State Minister Joseph Harmon told reporters that the Wales Estate is an “economic nightmare” and closure is the best option.

Wales estate is projected to make a loss of G$1.6 -$1.9 Billion in 2016. This coupled with the extent of refurbishment needed, rendered the estate prohibitively costly to maintain, according to the government. The government has indicated no intention to reverse its decision on the Wales Estate.

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Hopefully Granger holds strong and close all the estates before the end of his term. It has to be done since the afc/apnu has no clue on how to solve the issue and bring the industry to productivity. All those brain boxes in the afc/apnu during elections time boasting what they will do, and now we see them mopping up after the PPP with no real plan to move the nation forward. 

FM
Drugb posted:

Hopefully Granger holds strong and close all the estates before the end of his term. It has to be done since the afc/apnu has no clue on how to solve the issue and bring the industry to productivity. All those brain boxes in the afc/apnu during elections time boasting what they will do, and now we see them mopping up after the PPP with no real plan to move the nation forward. 

You are actually being quite severe.  While it has been established that Jagdeo destroyed Guysuco, and its most probable that APNU/AFC will do no better, I don't know that we need to jump to close it down.

Guysuco has to be reduced in scope to the point where it begins to become more viable. At that point buyer(s) can be found.  If at that point there are no buyers then Guysuco can be closed, but I feel confident that DDL will buy a portion, as they need to guarantee access to molasses.

Jamaica, with the same problem, sold off its estates to various buyers, some to the Chinese, and others to the European company, which also bought its major rum brand.  Only 2 remain gov't owned, and they are forced to be self supporting.

In the interim Granger needs to do what he seems unable to do and that it is to have OPEN conversations with the stakeholders, including the PPP.  This will be to determine the transition for workers, and regions where estates will have to be closed.

This of course will be contingent on Jagdeo ceasing his nation wide rant of "blackman a kill ahbe".   He must be forced to discuss the fact that he sold Bermine and Guymine for precisely the same reason why Guysuco will be sold.

What Granger must do is to be more respectful to the sugar workers, even though they are mainly PPP supporters, even though Jagdeo was quite cruel to the mainly PNC supporting bauxite workers.

 

 

FM
Mitwah posted:
Drugb posted:

Hopefully Granger holds strong and close all the estates before the end of his term. 

Were you really serious?

He reflects what Jagdeo intended to do but is too dishonest to admit. Had the PPP won the election Demerara estates would have been shut down.  In fact since he ranted about Skeldon being the salvation of Guyana that was his plan.

Now seeing a chance to foment mischief he pretends otherwise. 

FM

Dear Editor,
I write to applaud Dr David Hinds (WPA co-leader) for calling on the coalition A Partnership for National Unity/Alliance For Change (APNU/AFC) Government to address the difficult conditions facing the unemployed former workers of the closed Wales Sugar Estate and other estates on the government list for impending closure. I thank Hinds for focusing attention on the sugar workers who are facing many socio-economic challenges without Government support. But Hinds erred in stating that the sugar workers (meaning Indians) did not offer support to bauxite workers (meaning Africans) when the bauxite industry was divested.
The sugar workers were very supportive (directly and indirectly) of the bauxite workers. When the bauxite workers went on strike in Linden, Region 10 (Upper Demerara-Berbice) during the 1970s and were fired upon, sugar workers went on solidarity strike calling for justice of the affected workers and their families in the greater Linden community. Bauxite workers did not go on strike to support sugar workers when the latter took strike actions during the 1970s and 1980s for higher wages and better working conditions.
The sugar workers also provided financial support for bauxite workers. The People’s National Congress (PNC) dictatorship imposed a tax levy on sugar profits that were supposed to be shared by the sugar workers. The sugar levy yielded tens of millions of US dollars that were included in the Government’s national annual budget; these were used to subsidise the money losing bauxite industry. It is well established and penned in the media that the communities where sugar workers resided were neglected and marginalised by the PNC to the benefit of PNC supporters including the communities where the bauxite workers lived. So the sugar workers were aiding the bauxite workers. And this Government policy continued long after the PNC lost office in relatively free and fair elections in 1992.
The People’s Progressive Party (PPP), while in Opposition, condemned the sugar levy calling on the PNC Government to give the sugar workers their full due of the returns on their labour and predictability. But in Government, the PPP continued the PNC sugar levy. So the hapless sugar workers contributed their profits earned from their industrious labour to fund the Government operations which benefited communities where sugar workers don’t live.
It should be noted that it was genuine worker advocates like Ravi Dev, myself, and others who championed the removal of the sugar levy so workers can enjoy the full fruits of their labour. The PPP Government eventually caved in and eliminated the levy. But by then, the industry had begun a decline.
It should also be noted that it was the PNC, the Government supported by bauxite workers that closed and privatised the bauxite industry. It is the same “bauxite supported government”, having returned to power in 2015 because of the significant support from sugar workers, that has now closed Wales and announced plan to close other sugar estates. So sugar workers have consistently supported bauxite workers even assisting the bauxite backed PNC (APNU) party in capturing the Government. Unfortunately, the Government has moved against the workers.

Yours truly,
Vishnu Bisram

 
FM
Mitwah posted:

Suh LBI and Diamond were closed by the PPP? Rohee couldn't remember.

The closure of Diamond had two phases: closure of the factory in late 1980s and the closure of cultivation in 2009.

LBI workers were deployed to the Enmore factory and some remained to man the electricity generation system at the LBI factory.

FM

Diamond Estate workers protest for severance pay

Mar 31, 2010

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...t-for-severance-pay/

Several workers from the Diamond Sugar Estate picketed yesterday in front of the field office to press the Guyana Sugar Corporation (GuySuCo) to pay them a severance package, rather than have them redeployed.
GuySuCo has already indicated that the Diamond Estate is to be shut down as part of the corporation’s restructuring programme. The workers are being offered employment at the La Bonne Intention (LBI) Estate. But most of them say that it would be impractical for them to travel such a long distance.
Some of the workers reside at Parika and Soesdyke, and begin travelling from 04:00 hrs to reach the Diamond Estate. They would have to rise even earlier if they are redeployed to LBI. And some who were redeployed have accused GuySuCo officials of misleading them, claiming that there is often no work for them when they arrive on site.
Two representatives of the protesting workers alleged that Minister of Agriculture Robert Persaud has failed to follow through on his promises to meet with the Guyana Agricultural and General Workers’ Union (GAWU) to resolve the issue.
The workers intend to resume their protest action today.
“They got money fuh tief, leh they find we money,” one female worker said.
“Look at what they paying the managers. Let them cut (redeploy) from the top,” another worker said. “It look like slavery come back.”
According to Workers’ representative Lucien Pierre, the employees were entitled to a severance package, similar to what GuySuCo has given others in the past.
“When the Diamond factory and workshop were closed, the workers got their severance pay and now the plantation is closing, we want our severance pay.”
Pierre said that Minister of Agriculture Robert Persaud had promised to visit the estate on March 5. “But March 5 gone and he did not meet with us. He went to Blairmont and now I hear that he is in Israel.”
Highlighting some of the problems with the LBI plan, employee Michael Thomas said that members of the Diamond Estate shovel gang who were transferred to the LBI Estate found that there was no work for them there for seven weeks. According to him, much of the work that the shovel gang did at Diamond Estate is being done by machine at LBI.

Some of the protesting workers

Some of the protesting workers

Highlighting other problems, some of the women who work in the weeding gang also complained that their NIS contributions were incorrect.
Another woman also alleged that she suffered from facial burns after being sent to work in fields that had been sprayed with insecticide.
In a release issued yesterday, GAWU stated that almost all of the workers (just over 400) attached to Diamond Estate participated in the picketing exercise.
“The Diamond cultivation which comprises some 6,000 acres is slated for closure. The Corporation’s Blueprint for Success, also described as the Turnaround Plan, released last April confirmed the cultivation’s closure.” Since last year all categories of workers but the cane harvesters were instructed to take up work at the LBI and Enmore locations – miles away from their homes and their regular workplace.
According to the release, GAWU has contended that the decision to close the Diamond cultivation is injudicious. “The Union pointed out that in keeping with the Corporation’s goal of ultimately producing 80,000 tonnes of packaged sugar at Enmore Estate, the maintenance of the Diamond cultivation would ensure an adequate cane supply and would save the Corporation millions of dollars, having to develop new lands on the East Coast of Demerara which certainly would not be as high yielding as the Diamond cultivation.”
“The Corporation, ignoring the Union, is advancing the closure process as it is merely reaping the existing canes and not doing an iota to facilitate new cane growth. The Union, in the circumstances, fully supports the workers in their bid to be paid their severance pay in keeping with the extant Collective Labour Agreement.”
“The deployment of the workers to the East Coast Demerara Estates will rob the workers of their payoff benefits noting that many of them will either immediately or gradually opt out of the employ of the Corporation once they are permanently deployed to the East Coast Estates. The Union aware that the struggle of the Diamond workers will require the solidarity of fellow workers across the industry as well as others will do everything to support the workers so that the insensitive Corporation does not deny them their rightful Severance Pay.


 

Does this ring a bell,sounds just like the current closure of sugar estates.

Django

PPP slams Govt’s decision to shut down LBI Estate

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The Opposition People’s Progressive Party/ Civic (PPP/C) is strongly condemning the move by the authorities to shut down the operations of the La Bonne Intention (LBI) Sugar Estate, located on the East Coast of Demerara (ECD), stating that the “sneaky approach” used to announce this closure is simply a diversion from the swirling scandals surrounding the Administration.

According to the Opposition, the decision to shut down the operations at the LBI Sugar Estate, in a similar fashion as was decided in the case of the Wales Sugar Estate, West Coast Demerara (WCD) comes in the midst of a host of controversies concerning the APNU+AFC Government’s “corrupt practices in every area” of public life.

lbiIn a media statement today, the PPP stated that cloaking the move to close another sugar estate as plans at “consolidating”, “integrating” and “merging” the East Demerara estates is unacceptable.

“The PPP is of the view that collateral damage will result unquestionably; with sugar workers in particular and workers in general from other related industrial and service providers being seriously affected in the same way as the workers at Wales Estate. The PPP in its campaign to save Wales Estate had publicly alerted sugar workers in particular and workers in general that it should come as no surprise to them should the anti-working class Granger Administration move to shut down other sugar estates in the country,” the release said.

The Opposition reiterated its commitment in continuing to lend “firm and unshakeable support and solidarity” to sugar workers and their Trade Unions in their struggle to save the sugar industry and to “beat back the anti-working-class policies of the Granger Administration.”

Meanwhile, the Guyana Sugar Corporation (GuySuCo) yesterday confirmed that it will be moving ahead with plans to cease all operations at the LBI Sugar Estate. This is said to be in keeping with plans that had been made since 2011.

According to the sugar company, since in 2011, it, along with the workers’ Unions  met with each worker at the LBI factory over a five (5) day period to have discussions pertaining to the closure of the LBI factory and the topic of redeployment.

The LBI factory was subsequently closed in the same year and its workers were then redeployed to other posts at the Enmore Sugar Estate, ECD.

FM
Django posted:

Diamond Estate workers protest for severance pay

Mar 31, 2010

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...t-for-severance-pay/

Several workers from the Diamond Sugar Estate picketed yesterday in front of the field office to press the Guyana Sugar Corporation (GuySuCo) to pay them a severance package, rather than have them redeployed.
GuySuCo has already indicated that the Diamond Estate is to be shut down as part of the corporation’s restructuring programme. The workers are being offered employment at the La Bonne Intention (LBI) Estate. But most of them say that it would be impractical for them to travel such a long distance.
Some of the workers reside at Parika and Soesdyke, and begin travelling from 04:00 hrs to reach the Diamond Estate. They would have to rise even earlier if they are redeployed to LBI. And some who were redeployed have accused GuySuCo officials of misleading them, claiming that there is often no work for them when they arrive on site.
Two representatives of the protesting workers alleged that Minister of Agriculture Robert Persaud has failed to follow through on his promises to meet with the Guyana Agricultural and General Workers’ Union (GAWU) to resolve the issue.
The workers intend to resume their protest action today.
“They got money fuh tief, leh they find we money,” one female worker said.
“Look at what they paying the managers. Let them cut (redeploy) from the top,” another worker said. “It look like slavery come back.”
According to Workers’ representative Lucien Pierre, the employees were entitled to a severance package, similar to what GuySuCo has given others in the past.
“When the Diamond factory and workshop were closed, the workers got their severance pay and now the plantation is closing, we want our severance pay.”
Pierre said that Minister of Agriculture Robert Persaud had promised to visit the estate on March 5. “But March 5 gone and he did not meet with us. He went to Blairmont and now I hear that he is in Israel.”
Highlighting some of the problems with the LBI plan, employee Michael Thomas said that members of the Diamond Estate shovel gang who were transferred to the LBI Estate found that there was no work for them there for seven weeks. According to him, much of the work that the shovel gang did at Diamond Estate is being done by machine at LBI.

Some of the protesting workers

Some of the protesting workers

Highlighting other problems, some of the women who work in the weeding gang also complained that their NIS contributions were incorrect.
Another woman also alleged that she suffered from facial burns after being sent to work in fields that had been sprayed with insecticide.
In a release issued yesterday, GAWU stated that almost all of the workers (just over 400) attached to Diamond Estate participated in the picketing exercise.
“The Diamond cultivation which comprises some 6,000 acres is slated for closure. The Corporation’s Blueprint for Success, also described as the Turnaround Plan, released last April confirmed the cultivation’s closure.” Since last year all categories of workers but the cane harvesters were instructed to take up work at the LBI and Enmore locations – miles away from their homes and their regular workplace.
According to the release, GAWU has contended that the decision to close the Diamond cultivation is injudicious. “The Union pointed out that in keeping with the Corporation’s goal of ultimately producing 80,000 tonnes of packaged sugar at Enmore Estate, the maintenance of the Diamond cultivation would ensure an adequate cane supply and would save the Corporation millions of dollars, having to develop new lands on the East Coast of Demerara which certainly would not be as high yielding as the Diamond cultivation.”
“The Corporation, ignoring the Union, is advancing the closure process as it is merely reaping the existing canes and not doing an iota to facilitate new cane growth. The Union, in the circumstances, fully supports the workers in their bid to be paid their severance pay in keeping with the extant Collective Labour Agreement.”
“The deployment of the workers to the East Coast Demerara Estates will rob the workers of their payoff benefits noting that many of them will either immediately or gradually opt out of the employ of the Corporation once they are permanently deployed to the East Coast Estates. The Union aware that the struggle of the Diamond workers will require the solidarity of fellow workers across the industry as well as others will do everything to support the workers so that the insensitive Corporation does not deny them their rightful Severance Pay.


 

Does this ring a bell,sounds just like the current closure of sugar estates.

Extract from Ranjendra Parmanand. 

Compared to the pending closure of the Wales Estate, it was procedurally better handled. Adequate notice and engagements with the workers’ representatives were done in compliance with the Termination of Employment and Severance Pay Act. Like closures or downsizing the world over, it was a bitter pill to swallow, and in Guyana where there is a lack of employment opportunities, protests and strikes at such times should not surprise anyone. The cultivation workers at Diamond indeed protested. Ultimately, they were paid their due severance, and many regained employment at Wales estate as agriculture workers.

Even though there was no severance involved with LBI estate  there was adequate advance notice, again in compliance with the relevant labour law.

notwithstanding the government’s intimation that Wales estate will be closed at the end of this year, it’s incumbent on either the government or the sugar company to give adequate notice to the workers’ representative organisation of the intention to close the estate, and the reason for taking that decision. The law does not require that the workers’ representatives concur with the decision, although in all circumstances it must be founded on logical, economic and prudent financial grounds. Where there may be a disagreement, there is provision for mediation by the office of the Chief Labour Officer. From all the public pronouncements and releases there was no such notification. The announcement was a shock to all. There is no room, neither in law nor in terms of societal expectations, for such a level of arrogance, where the lives of 1,700 workers are involved.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/ww...t-badly-handled/amp/

FM

Django do you want to comment on Vishnu Bishram letter where Guysuco worker support linden and was then shaft by the bauxite worker and your government put the final hammer. 

Why you dodge this comments and jump to compare Apple and oranges with severance pay .

FM
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Drugb posted:

Hopefully Granger holds strong and close all the estates before the end of his term. It has to be done since the afc/apnu has no clue on how to solve the issue and bring the industry to productivity.

The failure of the PPP to secure international protection of the word Demerara has resulted in a Guyanese based in North America selling sugar from Mauritius under the name Demerara. Sugar consumption is also declining rapidly in the major economies and beyond as its effects that contribute to a range of health problems is now becoming a lot clearer.
So exactly how is Guyana going to sell more sugar? Tate & Lyle is under pressure in the UK to buy sugar beet locally from sugar beet farms just miles from their UK processing plant. The only big market left is alcohol.

 

Mr.T
Dave posted:

Django do you want to comment on Vishnu Bishram letter where Guysuco worker support linden and was then shaft by the bauxite worker and your government put the final hammer. 

Why you dodge this comments and jump to compare Apple and oranges with severance pay .

Bisram writes to suit himself,i don't take his words.

Are you justifying PPP closure of some Sugar Estates and condemning APNU/AFC take on restructuring of a failing Sugar Industry ??

Django
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Who cares what Rohee thinks?  We want to hear what Granger has to say about the 10,000 sugar workers who are out of work.  One of them has a kid who passed to go to QC and he couldn't afford to send his kid.  So that kid is going to Rosignol Secondary starting this week.

Bibi Haniffa
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Mitwah posted:

Suh LBI and Diamond were closed by the PPP? Rohee couldn't remember.

Why are you focusing on the PPP?  Tell us when Granger is going to pay the sugar workers the severance that he promised them.

Bibi Haniffa
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Django do you want to comment on Vishnu Bishram letter where Guysuco worker support linden and was then shaft by the bauxite worker and your government put the final hammer. 

Why you dodge this comments and jump to compare Apple and oranges with severance pay .

Bisram writes to suit himself,i don't take his words.

Are you justifying PPP closure of some Sugar Estates and condemning APNU/AFC take on restructuring of a failing Sugar Industry ??

There is no justification in closing estates by any politicians, government should operate businesses as any successful private owners. 

However, you still run away from the question. 

You Django  don’t take anyone’s words ( especially PPP and Indians ) but will dig so as to prove these individual is wrong. Why shy away from Bishram comment. 

I assume there is no evidence to counter his claim. 

FM
Dave posted

There is no justification in closing estates by any politicians, government should operate businesses as any successful private owners.

If there is no market for one's goods, how is the business going to survive? Donkey carts may well still have a place in Guyana, but they are not part of the landscape in even most of South America. We are clinging on to great times past when the rest of the world has moved on. The sugar industry is in decline. Accept it, and move into the upcoming oil industry.

Mr.T
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Django do you want to comment on Vishnu Bishram letter where Guysuco worker support linden and was then shaft by the bauxite worker and your government put the final hammer. 

Why you dodge this comments and jump to compare Apple and oranges with severance pay .

Bisram writes to suit himself,i don't take his words.

Are you justifying PPP closure of some Sugar Estates and condemning APNU/AFC take on restructuring of a failing Sugar Industry ??

There is no justification in closing estates by any politicians, government should operate businesses as any successful private owners. 

However, you still run away from the question. 

You Django  don’t take anyone’s words ( especially PPP and Indians ) but will dig so as to prove these individual is wrong. Why shy away from Bishram comment. 

I assume there is no evidence to counter his claim. 

https://books.google.com/books...s%20sold&f=false

You are brainwashed,click on link.

Compare what Bisram wrote in his letter.

By the way GUYSUCO became a dead beat under Government ownership.Read the reports on GUYSUCO Website,you will see when the failures started.

Django
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Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Django do you want to comment on Vishnu Bishram letter where Guysuco worker support linden and was then shaft by the bauxite worker and your government put the final hammer. 

Why you dodge this comments and jump to compare Apple and oranges with severance pay .

Bisram writes to suit himself,i don't take his words.

Are you justifying PPP closure of some Sugar Estates and condemning APNU/AFC take on restructuring of a failing Sugar Industry ??

There is no justification in closing estates by any politicians, government should operate businesses as any successful private owners. 

However, you still run away from the question. 

You Django  don’t take anyone’s words ( especially PPP and Indians ) but will dig so as to prove these individual is wrong. Why shy away from Bishram comment. 

I assume there is no evidence to counter his claim. 

https://books.google.com/books...s%20sold&f=false

You are brainwashed,click on link.

Check what Bisram writes.

Bhai Bisram can’t brain wash me. Me gat families who born and grow up in Linden and some still living there.. knows a lot about the bauxite town and what’s goes on  . Some  still alive who  experience the wismar terror .  

And I man grow up in the sugar estate .

what Bish say is the truth, but people like you don’t like to accept the facts. Go fool them barbadians how coolie man bad and coolie no good and you believe them like you.. continue yo parang 

FM
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Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Django do you want to comment on Vishnu Bishram letter where Guysuco worker support linden and was then shaft by the bauxite worker and your government put the final hammer. 

Why you dodge this comments and jump to compare Apple and oranges with severance pay .

Bisram writes to suit himself,i don't take his words.

Are you justifying PPP closure of some Sugar Estates and condemning APNU/AFC take on restructuring of a failing Sugar Industry ??

There is no justification in closing estates by any politicians, government should operate businesses as any successful private owners. 

However, you still run away from the question. 

You Django  don’t take anyone’s words ( especially PPP and Indians ) but will dig so as to prove these individual is wrong. Why shy away from Bishram comment. 

I assume there is no evidence to counter his claim. 

https://books.google.com/books...s%20sold&f=false

You are brainwashed,click on link.

Check what Bisram writes.

Bhai Bisram can’t brain wash me. Me gat families who born and grow up in Linden and some still living there.. knows a lot about the bauxite town . Some who live and experience the wismar terror. 

What the little snippets from the link says,did it said Bauxite workers supported Sugar Workers and vice versa ?

There was a time when the whole nation was against Burnham,maybe you forgot.

Django
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Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Django do you want to comment on Vishnu Bishram letter where Guysuco worker support linden and was then shaft by the bauxite worker and your government put the final hammer. 

Why you dodge this comments and jump to compare Apple and oranges with severance pay .

Bisram writes to suit himself,i don't take his words.

Are you justifying PPP closure of some Sugar Estates and condemning APNU/AFC take on restructuring of a failing Sugar Industry ??

There is no justification in closing estates by any politicians, government should operate businesses as any successful private owners. 

However, you still run away from the question. 

You Django  don’t take anyone’s words ( especially PPP and Indians ) but will dig so as to prove these individual is wrong. Why shy away from Bishram comment. 

I assume there is no evidence to counter his claim. 

https://books.google.com/books...s%20sold&f=false

You are brainwashed,click on link.

Check what Bisram writes.

Bhai Bisram can’t brain wash me. Me gat families who born and grow up in Linden and some still living there.. knows a lot about the bauxite town . Some who live and experience the wismar terror. 

What the little snippets from the link says,did it said Bauxite workers supported Sugar Workers and vice versa ?

There was a time when the whole nation was against Burnham,maybe you forgot.

The whole nation... you crazy. Think again bhai think again 

FM
Dave posted:
Django posted:
 

What the little snippets from the link says,did it said Bauxite workers supported Sugar Workers and vice versa ?

There was a time when the whole nation was against Burnham,maybe you forgot.

The whole nation... you crazy. Think again bhai think again 

Burnham had it coming,luckily he croaked.

I used the word "whole" not differentiate between the races ,both sides of the fence was getting tired of the dictatorship.

Django
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Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
 

What the little snippets from the link says,did it said Bauxite workers supported Sugar Workers and vice versa ?

There was a time when the whole nation was against Burnham,maybe you forgot.

The whole nation... you crazy. Think again bhai think again 

Burnham had it coming,luckily he croaked.

Bhai Burnham did some good and the man should be credited. 

BTW you should visit his grave once a year and thank the man fo where you are today. 

FM
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
 

What the little snippets from the link says,did it said Bauxite workers supported Sugar Workers and vice versa ?

There was a time when the whole nation was against Burnham,maybe you forgot.

The whole nation... you crazy. Think again bhai think again 

Burnham had it coming,luckily he croaked.

Bhai Burnham did some good and the man should be credited. 

BTW you should visit his grave once a year and thank the man fo where you are today. 

He did some good in the beginning,when he became a despot the bad things masked the good.

He didn't made what i am,it was my ability and determination to succeed,there was no hurdles that i could not conquer.I had no intention to cut tracks then.

Django
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
 

What the little snippets from the link says,did it said Bauxite workers supported Sugar Workers and vice versa ?

There was a time when the whole nation was against Burnham,maybe you forgot.

The whole nation... you crazy. Think again bhai think again 

Burnham had it coming,luckily he croaked.

Bhai Burnham did some good and the man should be credited. 

BTW you should visit his grave once a year and thank the man fo where you are today. 

He did some good in the beginning,when he became a despot the bad things masked the good.

He didn't made what i am,it was my ability and determination to succeed,there was no hurdles that i could not conquer.I had no intention to cut tracks then.

Take it easy banna. Yo sure you can conquer everything at 65 .. using that blue pill boy .. don’t double up like Lenard.  

FM
Dave posted:

Take it easy banna. Yo sure you can conquer everything at 65 .. using that blue pill boy .. don’t double up like Lenard.  

What blue pill have to do with Kabaka era ? how the r@ss potency comes in the discussion.You better stop following the bhais who have fetishes.

Django
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Django posted:
Dave posted:

Take it easy banna. Yo sure you can conquer everything at 65 .. using that blue pill boy .. don’t double up like Lenard.  

What blue pill have to do with Kabaka era ? how the r@ss potency comes in the discussion.You better stop following the bhais who have fetishes.

Lol

FM
Dave posted:
. Go fool them barbadians how coolie man bad and coolie no good and you believe them like you.. continue yo parang 

Given that thousands of Guyanese Indians live on that island, and that they are a highly visible population Bajans can see for themselves.  They can observe how Guyanese Indians view blacks (both locals and Guyanese) and then draw conclusions.  

Many in fact are confused why people, clearly suffering in their country under a gov't that they voted for, are so ungrateful when they arrive in another country when they bring their anti black prejudices with them. 

So Barbadians don't need anyone to tell them that a good % of Guyanese Indians think that they are superior to blacks.  And that they arrive in Barbados and proceed to call Bajans lazy.

FM
Baseman posted:

The destruction of the sugar industry was many decades in the making!   It did not happen over the past few years!

When Hoyte handed over Guysuco to the PPP the company's performance was beginning to improve. When the EU told the ACP countries that guaranteed prices and market access will end and offered compensation to allow a transition Jagdeo jumped and screamed and refused to listen to the advice of many.  He EXPANDED sugar.  His incompetence led to GuysSICKO becoming increasingly indebted because of that Skeldon fiasco factory.  Production costs INCREASED even as prices dropped.  And then they pumped in MILLIONS (US$) to keep GuySICKO alive.

The current situation of that ailing company is very much the fault of the PPP.  The man screamed that the EU was obligated to take Guyana sugar on any terms that Guyana dictated.  The EU ignored him and moved on to other projects.  T&T and St Kitts saw the writing on the wall and shut down their sugar.  Jamaica transitioned their sugar to one that focused on its domestic agro industrial markets.

Guyana, with its high costs expanded.  Oh well the "bonuses" that PPP officials were paid are probably sitting down in some brokerage account OUTSIDE of Guyana. Maybe Mumbai as Jagdeo is terrified of the US gov't.

FM

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