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Obama impeachment a possibility, says Ron Paul


Ron Paul said Monday that President Barack Obama’s targeted killing of Anwar al-Awlaki might be an impeachable offense.

Asked at a Manchester, N.H. town hall meeting about last week’s killing of the American-born Al Qaeda leader, the Texas congressman said impeachment would be “possible,” but that he wants to know more about how the administration “flouted the law.”

Paul called the killing a movement toward “tyranny.”

“I put responsibility on the president because this is obviously a step in the wrong direction,” Paul said. “We have just totally disrespected the Constitution.”

The comments once again put Paul at odds with his Republican rivals over foreign policy and the war on terror in the latest indication of how his foreign policy views stray far from Republican orthodoxy even in a GOP that’s taken on an increasingly isolationist bent. Candidates like Michele Bachmann and Mitt Romney — who included the president in a list of people he commended in a statement released Friday — have generally been supportive of the killing. No one else in the field has spoken out against it.

But Paul’s stuck with the civil libertarians who’ve criticized the targeted killing of an American citizen without public due process.

Paul, speaking at the University of New Hampshire’s Manchester campus as part of a brief swing through the state, also made another pitch for eliminating the federal income tax.

“If our lives and our liberty are our own, we ought to be able to keep the fruits of our labor,” he said.

But he modulated a bit when asked about eliminating social welfare programs, offering a caution that he said “might be a bit too pragmatic for some.”

“I have an ideal of what we should strive for and a goal, and that would be no social services,” he said. “But for me it’s trying to work our way out of this. … I don’t argue we should drop those cold. I don’t even believe in closing down the Federal Reserve in one day.”

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Originally posted by Henry:
He's absolutely correct when he campaigns against extrajudicial assassinations, torture, or pointless wars. Unfortunately, when it comes to economic policy, he is demented.
The fact remains the court kicked out the appeal so there was judicial consideration given. He was an enemy of the state and there are hardly anyone lamenting his demise. It in no way injures the long held protections under the law. He was outside the law both physically and in therms of his solicitations of others to cause mayhem in the state.
FM
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Originally posted by D2:
It in no way injures the long held protections under the law.
Those long held protections have taken quite a beating during the dark years of the Bush/Obama period, but I think this incident is particularly egregious.
FM
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Originally posted by Henry:
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Originally posted by D2:
It in no way injures the long held protections under the law.
Those long held protections have taken quite a beating during the dark years of the Bush/Obama period, but I think this incident is particularly egregious.
One can agree that internal protections were eroded in the Bush era but much of the area has recovered its coverage in this administration. There are deficits but these in no way bears on the present issue and should not be used as a distraction to it.
FM
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Originally posted by D2:
One can agree that internal protections were eroded in the Bush era but much of the area has recovered its coverage in this administration.
Nonsense. Every significant civil liberties organization from the ACLU on down agrees that matters have grown worse under Obama. Not even Cheney and Bush dared to assert the authority to order assassinations, although Dick Cheney praised Obama this week for doing so.
FM
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Originally posted by Henry:
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Originally posted by D2:
One can agree that internal protections were eroded in the Bush era but much of the area has recovered its coverage in this administration.
Nonsense. Every significant civil liberties organization from the ACLU on down agrees that matters have grown worse under Obama. Not even Cheney and Bush dared to assert the authority to order assassinations, although Dick Cheney praised Obama this week for doing so.
The ACLU is not the "temperature guage" of democratic deficits. You need to enumerate them. However, that is irrelevant to the present discourse as to the legality or not in the killing of this terrorist. However, I prefer you maintain point counter point in argumentation and not bring in "extraneous evidence". If you have other gripes open a thread on them.
FM
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by Henry:
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Originally posted by D2:
One can agree that internal protections were eroded in the Bush era but much of the area has recovered its coverage in this administration.
Nonsense. Every significant civil liberties organization from the ACLU on down agrees that matters have grown worse under Obama. Not even Cheney and Bush dared to assert the authority to order assassinations, although Dick Cheney praised Obama this week for doing so.
The ACLU is not the "temperature guage" of democratic deficits. You need to enumerate them. However, that is irrelevant to the present discourse as to the legality or not in the killing of this terrorist. However, I prefer you maintain point counter point in argumentation and not bring in "extraneous evidence". If you have other gripes open a thread on them.


I was responding to your assertion, One can agree that internal protections were eroded in the Bush era but much of the area has recovered its coverage in this administration, which was clearly just rank stupidness. I don't think anything more need be said on the subject.
FM
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Originally posted by Henry:
He's absolutely correct when he campaigns against extrajudicial assassinations, torture, or pointless wars. Unfortunately, when it comes to economic policy, he is demented.

Demented because he says that to save America from bankruptcy the empire has to be dismantled and all the troops brought back home. Talk about dismantling the empire are considered heretic by the republican mafia. If they could they would criminalize any mention, any thought of it.
FM
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Originally posted by Lucas:
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Originally posted by Henry:
He's absolutely correct when he campaigns against extrajudicial assassinations, torture, or pointless wars. Unfortunately, when it comes to economic policy, he is demented.

Demented because he says that to save America from bankruptcy the empire has to be dismantled and all the troops brought back home. Talk about dismantling the empire are considered heretic by the republican mafia. If they could they would criminalize any mention, any thought of it.
No, demented because he wants to deregulate everything, end all social programs, close the Post Office, privatize the schools, and let banks print their own money. I agree with him on bringing the troops back home. He has no intention of dismantling the empire; he just thinks it should be maintained by privatized mercenary armies, "free market" style.
FM

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