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Russia deploying warship, missile cruiser to Mediterranean

 

Russia has announced plans for deploying an anti-submarine ship and a missile cruiser to the Mediterranean, amid the escalating Western war rhetoric against Syria.



“The well-known situation shaping up in the eastern Mediterranean called for certain corrections to the make-up of the naval forces,” an unnamed source in the Russian General Staff was quoted by Russian news agency Interfax as saying on Thursday.

“A large anti-submarine ship of the Northern Fleet will join them (the existing Russian naval forces) over the next few days. Later it will be joined by the Moskva, a rocket cruiser of the Black Sea Fleet,” the source added.


Moscow is strongly opposed to any military strike on Syria, with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov believing that the move will critically destabilize the region.

Earlier in the day, the Russian Foreign Ministry quoted Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov as saying that “Declared plans by some states to inflict a military strike on Syria are an undisguised challenge to the key provisions of the UN Charter and other norms of international law.”

The war rhetoric against Syria gained momentum after the militants operating inside the country and the foreign-backed Syrian opposition claimed on August 21 that hundreds had been killed in a government chemical attack on militant strongholds in the Damascus suburbs of Ain Tarma, Zamalka and Jobar.

Damascus has categorically rejected the allegations.

Since August 27, speculations became stronger about the possibility of a military attack on Syria. Media outlets reported US plans for likely surgical attacks, which would be in the form of “cruise-missile strikes,” and “could rely on four US destroyers in the Mediterranean [Sea].” The plan was said to be awaiting US President Barack Obama’s go-ahead.

Iran, Russia and China, among other countries, have warned against foreign military intervention in Syria.

Meanwhile, reports say Britain has deployed six Typhoon jets to its Akrotiri base in Cyprus.

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Will Russia and Iran join the fray? The board are still tinkered with, chess men are in place, let the game begin.

 

The US army have never in a matter of a decades or so, have real men and machines firing back at them. This is different from killiing innocent women and children and babies in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

Let the games begin.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:

Will Russia and Iran join the fray? The board are still tinkered with, chess men are in place, let the game begin.

 

The US army have never in a matter of a decades or so, have real men and machines firing back at them. This is different from killiing innocent women and children and babies in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

Let the games begin.

No, asj.

A war involving the US and allies against Syria and allies like Russia, China and Iran will be Armageddon. The millions of citizens in the Middle East have a right to live, not become casualties in such a war.

What is required now is restraint on all sides.

The truth always comes out eventually and one day there may be credible evidence to show Assad didn't use chemical weapons against civilians.

George W Bush rushed to obliterate Iraq but later had to admit Saddam didn't have weapons of mass destruction.

The military-industrial-complex hawks in the US are goading Obama to strike Syria. It's left to Obama to decide if he wants to be a black bush.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by asj:

Will Russia and Iran join the fray? The board are still tinkered with, chess men are in place, let the game begin.

 

The US army have never in a matter of a decades or so, have real men and machines firing back at them. This is different from killiing innocent women and children and babies in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

Let the games begin.

No, asj.

A war involving the US and allies against Syria and allies like Russia, China and Iran will be Armageddon. The millions of citizens in the Middle East have a right to live, not become casualties in such a war.

What is required now is restraint on all sides.

The truth always comes out eventually and one day there may be credible evidence to show Assad didn't use chemical weapons against civilians.

George W Bush rushed to obliterate Iraq but later had to admit Saddam didn't have weapons of mass destruction.

The military-industrial-complex hawks in the US are goading Obama to strike Syria. It's left to Obama to decide if he wants to be a black bush.

Well said Mr Gilbaka. The World will NOT be fooled AGAIN!!!!!  Bush DESTROYED the credibility of the US!!!!

Nehru

Asj, Russia had its turn before America to kill men, women and children in Afganistan. This show of force is not happening in Russia or America, but in international waters while Syria in the center of this mary-go-around. The Middle East will be in yet another phase of military conflict with the world police. When the fire work starts, we will be having our coffee and toast as usual while the children of that region will suffered at the hands of big brothers. Fighting for or against Syria has the same consequences. 120,000 died, millions displaced, thousands are unaccounted for and counting. Thanks to foreign interventions.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by asj:

Will Russia and Iran join the fray? The board are still tinkered with, chess men are in place, let the game begin.

 

The US army have never in a matter of a decades or so, have real men and machines firing back at them. This is different from killiing innocent women and children and babies in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

Let the games begin.

No, asj.

A war involving the US and allies against Syria and allies like Russia, China and Iran will be Armageddon. The millions of citizens in the Middle East have a right to live, not become casualties in such a war.

What is required now is restraint on all sides.

The truth always comes out eventually and one day there may be credible evidence to show Assad didn't use chemical weapons against civilians.

George W Bush rushed to obliterate Iraq but later had to admit Saddam didn't have weapons of mass destruction.

The military-industrial-complex hawks in the US are goading Obama to strike Syria. It's left to Obama to decide if he wants to be a black bush.

I think Barack is more logical than W. We might see cooler heads prevail. Obama will wait for a vote from the UN before deciding to  strike with cruise missiles.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by asj:

Will Russia and Iran join the fray? The board are still tinkered with, chess men are in place, let the game begin.

 

The US army have never in a matter of a decades or so, have real men and machines firing back at them. This is different from killiing innocent women and children and babies in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

Let the games begin.

No, asj.

A war involving the US and allies against Syria and allies like Russia, China and Iran will be Armageddon. The millions of citizens in the Middle East have a right to live, not become casualties in such a war.

What is required now is restraint on all sides.

The truth always comes out eventually and one day there may be credible evidence to show Assad didn't use chemical weapons against civilians.

George W Bush rushed to obliterate Iraq but later had to admit Saddam didn't have weapons of mass destruction.

The military-industrial-complex hawks in the US are goading Obama to strike Syria. It's left to Obama to decide if he wants to be a black bush.

I think Barack is more logical than W. We might see cooler heads prevail. Obama will wait for a vote from the UN before deciding to  strike with cruise missiles.

The U.S. will never get that vote of confidence from the UN when Russia and China has veto power in the UNSC. However, Obama don't actually need the blessing from the UN to go ahead as long as Syria used unconventional warfare on its people. He don't even need congressional approval. 

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

It would be interesting to see if Russia would retaliate in any shape or form on the American.

Fight Fight Fight.

Battle of midway.  

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

It would be interesting to see if Russia would retaliate in any shape or form on the American.

Fight Fight Fight.

Battle of midway.  


A bridge too far.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Cobra:
The U.S. will never get that vote of confidence from the UN when Russia and China has veto power in the UNSC.

 

However, Obama don't actually need the blessing from the UN to go ahead as long as Syria used unconventional warfare on its people.

 

He don't even need congressional approval. 

In a short time, we will see if the US_of_A will proceed with its own course on this situation.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

My honest opinion is a 50/50 chance. The timetable is now. The evidence will be fully justified tonight at 6:00 PM. 

LIke the way we were sure a Van in Iraq had Nuclear Bomb( SHAMELESS COLIN POWELL). Dat man is done. He is now repairing Volvos at his home.

Nehru
Originally Posted by asj:

Will Russia and Iran join the fray? The board are still tinkered with, chess men are in place, let the game begin.

 

The US army have never in a matter of a decades or so, have real men and machines firing back at them. This is different from killiing innocent women and children and babies in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

Let the games begin.

ASJ, the US can militarily destroy Russia several times over before it can say "boo"......

Kari

From today's New York Times....

By STEVEN LEE MYERS
August 29, 2013

 

MOSCOW — Russia has made its opposition to military intervention in Syria vehemently clear. The foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, warns daily about the risk of an escalating conflagration. A deputy prime minister said the West dealt with the Islamic world like “a monkey with a grenade.” A few commentators on the fringe have warned of World War III.
The one voice that has remained silent, though, is the one that matters most.
President Vladimir V. Putin has conspicuously avoided public comment on reports of a chemical weapons attack on civilians outside of Damascus, the Syrian capital, on Aug. 21, which killed hundreds of people. Instead he has carried on, like many ordinary Russians, as if the civil war in Syria had not reached an ominous new phase. In the days after the attack, Mr. Putin attended a ceremony for the restoration of a fountain made famous in World War II, visited a breakaway province of neighboring Georgia and toured a mine and dam in Siberia.
There is no doubt about Mr. Putin’s opposition to retaliatory strikes. Nor about his support of the government of President Bashar al-Assad in a conflict Mr. Assad has described as a war against Islamic extremism.
Mr. Putin’s public reticence, though, reflects a calculation that Russia can do little to stop a military intervention if the United States and other countries move ahead without the authorization of the United Nations Security Council — and that he has little to lose at home, at least, if they do.
Mr. Lavrov, in remarks to reporters this week, made it clear that Russia’s reaction to international intervention in Syria would be limited to a war of words — “We, of course, are not planning to go to war with anybody,” he said. That stance could ultimately benefit Mr. Putin.

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by asj:

Will Russia and Iran join the fray? The board are still tinkered with, chess men are in place, let the game begin.

 

The US army have never in a matter of a decades or so, have real men and machines firing back at them. This is different from killiing innocent women and children and babies in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

Let the games begin.

ASJ, the US can militarily destroy Russia several times over before it can say "boo"......

 

Kari
Maybe, maybe not (to quote one knowledgeable bro on GNI  )

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by asj:

Will Russia and Iran join the fray? The board are still tinkered with, chess men are in place, let the game begin.

 

The US army have never in a matter of a decades or so, have real men and machines firing back at them. This is different from killiing innocent women and children and babies in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

Let the games begin.

ASJ, the US can militarily destroy Russia several times over before it can say "boo"......

Kari, Yuh can really tell a Nancy story.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by asj:

Will Russia and Iran join the fray? The board are still tinkered with, chess men are in place, let the game begin.

 

The US army have never in a matter of a decades or so, have real men and machines firing back at them. This is different from killiing innocent women and children and babies in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

Let the games begin.

ASJ, the US can militarily destroy Russia several times over before it can say "boo"......

Kari, Yuh can really tell a Nancy story.

PAvi bhai....go to Al Abidin today and read Jummah namaz.....and list to the Qutbah (Khutbah)......

Kari

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