The PPP eying up our oil now. They started giving away oil fields before the last election. Like Jagdeo and his croonies believe that Guyana belongs to them.

 This fool Eric Phillips. How can someone willed a property he or she does not own. The deeds registry should have all the information regarding private and public property. Instead he should look at all those who are occupying Govt. owned houses for generations.

Randolph, easy, simple, tell it to Mr TDUMB has no bottom with him

Where did the article mention ppp children?

When a will goes through probate you cannot give away property which is not yours.  If it belongs to the government it will be seized immediately.

Probate determines the validity of the will and who is the rightful executor/trustee of an estate.

randolph posted:

 This fool Eric Phillips. How can someone willed a property he or she does not own.

That's the issue. That's why they're investigating. That's what the article is about - people willing property they don't own. How did you miss that?

According to Phillips Blacks were in Guyana before the Amerindians. He found that out now he finds this out.

Guyana laws which pass down from the generation when coolies/slaves live in logies state that if a person can show proof[which Guyanese can fake whatever is needed] that you live/occupied property for 12 years they can own it through prescriptive rights.

I sure the PPP bais got more than enough to proof that they occupied those properties for the 23 years they were running the cake shap…. 

"Freddii Kiisson is not of my race"

This says it all about the role of East Indian people in Guyana.

I say a sovereign Independent nation a must for our people, a sovereign independent nation will happen for our people and a sovereign nation will be for our people forever.

Another garbage article - how can you will something that is not yours.  Stupidity and lies continue.

Ouch that hit T hard

alena06 posted:

Another garbage article - how can you will something that is not yours.  Stupidity and lies continue.

It's not so hard to do in Guyana actually.

Mr.T posted:

alena06 posted:

Another garbage article - how can you will something that is not yours.  Stupidity and lies continue.

It's not so hard to do in Guyana actually.

Some people seem to have no idea what goes on in Guyana. If a man could sell a house to three different people, deeds and everything, anything else could happen. Properties change hands in Guyana without the owners having any idea.

Mr.T posted:

The PPP eying up our oil now. They started giving away oil fields before the last election. Like Jagdeo and his croonies believe that Guyana belongs to them.

Can you provide specific information that evidence "They started giving away oil fields before the last election" ? 

antabanta posted:

Mr.T posted:

alena06 posted:

Another garbage article - how can you will something that is not yours.  Stupidity and lies continue.

It's not so hard to do in Guyana actually.

Some people seem to have no idea what goes on in Guyana. If a man could sell a house to three different people, deeds and everything, anything else could happen. Properties change hands in Guyana without the owners having any idea.

I heard of some such cases.

Leonora posted:

I heard of some such cases.

It's an epidemic. People lose property overnight and have no idea what happened.

randolph posted:

 This fool Eric Phillips. How can someone willed a property he or she does not own. The deeds registry should have all the information regarding private and public property. Instead he should look at all those who are occupying Govt. owned houses for generations.

He is in fact implying that state owned properties were snatched by corrupt PPP officials and are now in their wills. 

Bibi Haniffa posted:

When a will goes through probate you cannot give away property which is not yours.  If it belongs to the government it will be seized immediately.

And if the property is "owned" by the decedent how will the probate process uncover this, unless an indepth audit is done to uncover that there was no evidence of a sale transaction, just a retitling of ownership.

That office is anyway highly corrupt and so the people responsible for probate can easily be paid off.

antabanta posted:

Leonora posted:

I heard of some such cases.

It's an epidemic. People lose property overnight and have no idea what happened.

Exactly.  A "small" amount paid to a corrupt person and "ownership" is quickly changed.  Many overseas based Guyanese (and even elderly people living in Guyana) have discovered their properties stolen this way and had to engage in legal action to rectify the issue.

caribny posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

When a will goes through probate you cannot give away property which is not yours.  If it belongs to the government it will be seized immediately.

And if the property is "owned" by the decedent how will the probate process uncover this, unless an indepth audit is done to uncover that there was no evidence of a sale transaction, just a retitling of ownership.

That office is anyway highly corrupt and so the people responsible for probate can easily be paid off.

Could your ignorance be because you never owned property and had gone through the probate process?  Just like your ignorant claim about indo passing themselves off as blacks to get entitlements. 

I know you are a little slow but I will spell it out. IF the decedent "owned" the property then how did the deed get in their name? Fraud is one matter but a trail is always there that can cause any illegal gotten property to be reverted back to the rightful owner, the govt in this case. 

In Toronto, Canada, there are cases where a property has no mortgage, a thief having the owner's personal information can register a loan or mortgage against that property and sometimes transfer title of that property without the rightful owner's knowledge. So to protect  from such fraudulent behaviour one takes out Title Insurance.

Drugb posted:

caribny posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

When a will goes through probate you cannot give away property which is not yours.  If it belongs to the government it will be seized immediately.

And if the property is "owned" by the decedent how will the probate process uncover this, unless an indepth audit is done to uncover that there was no evidence of a sale transaction, just a retitling of ownership.

That office is anyway highly corrupt and so the people responsible for probate can easily be paid off.

Could your ignorance be because you never owned property and had gone through the probate process?  Just like your ignorant claim about indo passing themselves off as blacks to get entitlements. 

I know you are a little slow but I will spell it out. IF the decedent "owned" the property then how did the deed get in their name? Fraud is one matter but a trail is always there that can cause any illegal gotten property to be reverted back to the rightful owner, the govt in this case. 

the probate process is not inclusive of validating ownership. It merely confers authority on who manges and who get what per the wishes of the decedent . 

As a low life you again delve into racist tropes to make a statement which turns out to be bunk as usual. 

Did you once not tell the board it was impossible for banks to be scammed electronically? Well as you possibly come to know by now it happens. Similarly, fraudsters can fabricate ownership. When they die, those assets get passed on the heirs. Many rich people became rich by fraud. 

Also, every time someone steals your identity, for example,  that is exactly what they do. 

Stormborn posted:

 

 

the probate process is not inclusive of validating ownership. It merely confers authority on who manges and who get what per the wishes of the decedent . 

As a low life you again delve into racist tropes to make a statement which turns out to be bunk as usual. 

Did you once not tell the board it was impossible for banks to be scammed electronically? Well as you possibly come to know by now it happens. Similarly, fraudsters can fabricate ownership. When they die, those assets get passed on the heirs. Many rich people became rich by fraud. 

Also, every time someone steals your identity, for example,  that is exactly what they do. 

Before ah was joking about howard, but ah being to wonder if is there is not some truth to the education there.  If you ever go through the deed process you would know that it is reversible if govt state their claim to the land. And if fraud was indeed used to pass on ownership illegally, the buyers would lose corn and husk should the govt pursue the matter legally. 

Drugb posted:

Stormborn posted:

 

 

the probate process is not inclusive of validating ownership. It merely confers authority on who manges and who get what per the wishes of the decedent . 

As a low life you again delve into racist tropes to make a statement which turns out to be bunk as usual. 

Did you once not tell the board it was impossible for banks to be scammed electronically? Well as you possibly come to know by now it happens. Similarly, fraudsters can fabricate ownership. When they die, those assets get passed on the heirs. Many rich people became rich by fraud. 

Also, every time someone steals your identity, for example,  that is exactly what they do. 

Before ah was joking about howard, but ah being to wonder if is there is not some truth to the education there.  If you ever go through the deed process you would know that it is reversible if govt state their claim to the land. And if fraud was indeed used to pass on ownership illegally, the buyers would lose corn and husk should the govt pursue the matter legally. 

who is talking about reversibility and the potential for problems of the inheritors? Is that not what they are finding our now their inheritance is being questioned? If in the US there are property crimes what about Guyana where theft of property is scandalous already. The thread concerns the idea that crooks willed property illegal gotten to their children. There is no disputing the statement on the possibility that it can't happen. Any other statement is a digression and any other claims to repudiating this because you got better schooling is also bunk

kp posted:

In Toronto, Canada, there are cases where a property has no mortgage, a thief having the owner's personal information can register a loan or mortgage against that property and sometimes transfer title of that property without the rightful owner's knowledge.

So to protect  from such fraudulent behaviour one takes out Title Insurance.

Are you sure that's what Title Insurance for ?

Django posted:

kp posted:

In Toronto, Canada, there are cases where a property has no mortgage, a thief having the owner's personal information can register a loan or mortgage against that property and sometimes transfer title of that property without the rightful owner's knowledge.

So to protect  from such fraudulent behaviour one takes out Title Insurance.

Are you sure that's what Title Insurance for ?

I am sure, it's in my line of business.

Stormborn posted:

Drugb posted:

Stormborn posted:

 

 

the probate process is not inclusive of validating ownership. It merely confers authority on who manges and who get what per the wishes of the decedent . 

As a low life you again delve into racist tropes to make a statement which turns out to be bunk as usual. 

Did you once not tell the board it was impossible for banks to be scammed electronically? Well as you possibly come to know by now it happens. Similarly, fraudsters can fabricate ownership. When they die, those assets get passed on the heirs. Many rich people became rich by fraud. 

Also, every time someone steals your identity, for example,  that is exactly what they do. 

Before ah was joking about howard, but ah being to wonder if is there is not some truth to the education there.  If you ever go through the deed process you would know that it is reversible if govt state their claim to the land. And if fraud was indeed used to pass on ownership illegally, the buyers would lose corn and husk should the govt pursue the matter legally. 

who is talking about reversibility and the potential for problems of the inheritors? Is that not what they are finding our now their inheritance is being questioned? If in the US there are property crimes what about Guyana where theft of property is scandalous already. The thread concerns the idea that crooks willed property illegal gotten to their children. There is no disputing the statement on the possibility that it can't happen. Any other statement is a digression and any other claims to repudiating this because you got better schooling is also bunk

Not sure what is your beef with my views on this. My family had property that was lifted illegally, so I am well aware of the potential of this and how easily it can be accomplished. Lifting govt property is an entirely different story, so it is troubling that pnc was not able to repossess pradoville and other govt lands that they claimed was illegally obtained by ppp operatives. If indeed it was true, there are simple investigation, tracing back the deeds and other documents that can result in overturning ownership in the case of fraud. 

kp posted:

Django posted:

kp posted:

In Toronto, Canada, there are cases where a property has no mortgage, a thief having the owner's personal information can register a loan or mortgage against that property and sometimes transfer title of that property without the rightful owner's knowledge.

So to protect  from such fraudulent behaviour one takes out Title Insurance.

Are you sure that's what Title Insurance for ?

I am sure, it's in my line of business.

So you saying  one can buy one time and life time Title Insurance  at closing ? google said not required in Ontario.

Link to document on title insurance in Ontario

https://www.fsco.gov.on.ca/en/...ments/undstitins.pdf

Django posted:

kp posted:

Django posted:

kp posted:

In Toronto, Canada, there are cases where a property has no mortgage, a thief having the owner's personal information can register a loan or mortgage against that property and sometimes transfer title of that property without the rightful owner's knowledge.

So to protect  from such fraudulent behaviour one takes out Title Insurance.

Are you sure that's what Title Insurance for ?

I am sure, it's in my line of business.

So you saying  one can buy one time and life time Title Insurance  at closing ? google said not required in Ontario.

Link to document on title insurance in Ontario

https://www.fsco.gov.on.ca/en/...ments/undstitins.pdf

If read carefully, it states that buying Title Insurance is optional, your lawyer may advise.

Leonora posted:

antabanta posted:

Mr.T posted:

alena06 posted:

Another garbage article - how can you will something that is not yours.  Stupidity and lies continue.

It's not so hard to do in Guyana actually.

Some people seem to have no idea what goes on in Guyana. If a man could sell a house to three different people, deeds and everything, anything else could happen. Properties change hands in Guyana without the owners having any idea.

I heard of some such cases.

People hear a lot of things that are false and dangerous. Some people heard stuff that caused human beings their lives. Be careful what you hear and say.

kp posted:

Django posted:

So you saying  one can buy one time and life time Title Insurance  at closing ? google said not required in Ontario.

Link to document on title insurance in Ontario

https://www.fsco.gov.on.ca/en/...ments/undstitins.pdf

If read carefully, it states that buying Title Insurance is optional, your lawyer may advise.

True,

The purpose for Title Insurance is protection, I have learnt this 20 yrs ago when doing my first Real Estate Transaction, I questioned every detail of the closing cost.

Some of the information i gathered from personal research at the then time. Django always inquisitive.

https://www.investopedia.com/t.../title_insurance.asp

How Title Insurance Works

skeldon_man posted:

People hear a lot of things that are false and dangerous. Some people heard stuff that caused human beings their lives. Be careful what you hear and say.

Do you have reason to doubt allegations of real estate property changing hands without the owners' knowledge?