Planned Cheddi Jagan centennial stamps scrapped

Bai Granger juss being Petty. Granger shud know that yuh gat nuff people who worship Jagan like how he bow down and worship Burnham. Arthur Chung and Cheddi Jagan not de same. 

we would have the same, and worse?, from the PPP if they (in gov't) were confronted with a Burnham centennial

there is no consensus on race-tinged matters

Guyanese remain politically immature

sad

Labba posted:

Bai Granger juss being Petty. Granger shud know that yuh gat nuff people who worship Jagan like how he bow down and worship Burnham. Arthur Chung and Cheddi Jagan not de same. 

That's true,

Moses Nagamotoo said there will be printing of commemorative stamps to honour Dr. Jagan,now the idea backpedalled.

Django posted:

Labba posted:

Bai Granger juss being Petty. Granger shud know that yuh gat nuff people who worship Jagan like how he bow down and worship Burnham. Arthur Chung and Cheddi Jagan not de same. 

That's true,

Moses Nagamotoo said there will be printing of commemorative stamps to honour Dr. Jagan,now the idea backpedalled.

is it a fact that the stamps have been scrapped?

ronan posted:

Django posted:

Labba posted:

Bai Granger juss being Petty. Granger shud know that yuh gat nuff people who worship Jagan like how he bow down and worship Burnham. Arthur Chung and Cheddi Jagan not de same. 

That's true,

Moses Nagamotoo said there will be printing of commemorative stamps to honour Dr. Jagan,now the idea backpedalled.

is it a fact that the stamps have been scrapped?

Not sure,SN said scrapped,

we will have to wait and see.

Django posted:

ronan posted:

Django posted:

Labba posted:

Bai Granger juss being Petty. Granger shud know that yuh gat nuff people who worship Jagan like how he bow down and worship Burnham. Arthur Chung and Cheddi Jagan not de same. 

That's true,

Moses Nagamotoo said there will be printing of commemorative stamps to honour Dr. Jagan,now the idea backpedalled.

is it a fact that the stamps have been scrapped?

Not sure,SN said scrapped,

we will have to wait and see.

I suspect that Cheddi Jagan and Arthur Chung stamps will be issued now that the PPP centennial (campaign) stuff is done

I could be wrong

Dem can issue or scuttle de stamps. Fact is, Jagan already on postage stamps.

Check out the bottom of this page.

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THIS IS PLAIN AND SIMPLE IN YOUR FACE RACISM!!!!  AFTER THE POST OFFICE GENERAL DECIDED TO ISSUE THE STAMP THE GADAHA WITH BLOOD ON HIS HANDS DIRECTED THE SCRAPPING OF THE STAMPS. THERE IS NOT A MORE RACIST PERSON ON THIS PLANET THAN GRANGER THE GADAHA!!!!  NO WONDER HE WAS THE PRINCIPAL AT SOPHIA UNIVERSITY AND IS VERY PROUD OF THE BLOOD OF BHOL RAMPERSAUD ON HIS HANDS. HE IS GRINNING AT THE CLOSE OF THE SUGAR INDUSTER AND THE STARVING SUGAR WORKERS. WE ALL THOUGHT AFTER PW BOTHA AND IAN SMITH THAT THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE BUT WE FORGOT THE GADAHA IS STILL HERE!!!!!!!

Nehru posted:

THIS IS PLAIN AND SIMPLE IN YOUR FACE RACISM!!!!  AFTER THE POST OFFICE GENERAL DECIDED TO ISSUE THE STAMP THE GADAHA WITH BLOOD ON HIS HANDS DIRECTED THE SCRAPPING OF THE STAMPS. THERE IS NOT A MORE RACIST PERSON ON THIS PLANET THAN GRANGER THE GADAHA!!!!  NO WONDER HE WAS THE PRINCIPAL AT SOPHIA UNIVERSITY AND IS VERY PROUD OF THE BLOOD OF BHOL RAMPERSAUD ON HIS HANDS. HE IS GRINNING AT THE CLOSE OF THE SUGAR INDUSTER AND THE STARVING SUGAR WORKERS. WE ALL THOUGHT AFTER PW BOTHA AND IAN SMITH THAT THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE BUT WE FORGOT THE GADAHA IS STILL HERE!!!!!!!

NEHRU'S 100TH BIRTH ANNIVERSARY STAMP:

unlike the screaming infant vomiting race bile, i'm trying to be rational about this

after looking at the CJRC approved stamp, I noticed that it contained the words "a man of the people"

plenty in the afro community do not view CBJ as such, especially after 1992 and the bequeathing of Bharrat Jagdeo

they, wrongly in my opinion, view Dr. Jagan as a man of the "East Indian" people

Granger is giving a nod to that in his statement that commemorative stamps should have "national" rather than "partisan" symbolism

would a PPP Gov't issue a Burnham centennial stamp describing him as "father of the nation"?

alright then!

this is the politics of a sundered Guyana without consensus on issues that touch on race/power

let's have an adult conversation without the foolishness

The Caribbean Afro Ian Smith in your face RACISM, plain and simple. Who cannot see it are dumb and blind!!!!!!!!

I suspect that Granger would take a completely different approach had Burnham been born before 1918. My guess is that he does not have the wherewithal to give any other Guyanese leader those recognition which are not already bestowed on Burnham.

ronan posted:

after looking at the CJRC approved stamp, I noticed that it contained the words "a man of the people" [I think this description of Jagan is fair. He was a man of the people, moving among the various races freely and compassionately.]

plenty in the afro community do not view CBJ as such, especially after 1992 and the bequeathing of Bharrat Jagdeo [Regrettable. In 1992 young Bharrat Jagdeo showed great promise, pluck and parsimony. Neither CBJ nor others could have foreseen how absolute power would later exert a corrupting influence on Jagdeo.]

they, wrongly in my opinion, view Dr. Jagan as a man of the "East Indian" people [I appreciate your stance as highlighted in black.]

Granger is giving a nod to that in his statement that commemorative stamps should have "national" rather than "partisan" symbolism [No problem.]

would a PPP Gov't issue a Burnham centennial stamp describing him as "father of the nation"? [Truly, no. PPP says Jagan was father of the nation. Gilly believes the nation has two founding fathers, ie Jagan and Burnham.]

alright then! [Alright.]

 

How can Burnham be equally the father of the nation as Jagan was when Jagan's political vision for Guyana began even before Burnham got into Guyana's politics?

ksazma posted:

I suspect that Granger would take a completely different approach had Burnham been born before 1918. My guess is that he does not have the wherewithal to give any other Guyanese leader those recognition which are not already bestowed on Burnham.

in context, what are "those recognition" you talking about that are "already bestowed on Burnham"?

does anyone recall PNC gov't issuing a Burnham stamp . . . and, if that was done, what did it say?

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

I suspect that Granger would take a completely different approach had Burnham been born before 1918. My guess is that he does not have the wherewithal to give any other Guyanese leader those recognition which are not already bestowed on Burnham.

in context, what are "those recognition" you talking about that are "already bestowed on Burnham"?

I did not say any recognition was already bestowed on Burnham. That centennial recognition has not yet been bestowed as Burnham was not born until 1923. People petition for recognition for those they admire all over the world so nothing is wrong if the PPP is pushing for a stamp for their idol. Granger suddenly realized that Chung was also born in 1918 even though it was since January. If he is so particular about it, why didn't he do something before January 10th? 

ksazma posted:

How can Burnham be equally the father of the nation as Jagan was when Jagan's political vision for Guyana began even before Burnham got into Guyana's politics?

Simple. Guyana's mother country was the Queen's England. Jagan F up de Queen and force she to give birth to a free Guyana. But de Queen seh de baby Guyana got Burnham DNA too because Burnham bin F she too. That's how Guyana got two daddy.😂

ksazma posted:

I did not say any recognition was already bestowed on Burnham. 

seriously? 

smh

ksazma posted:

People petition for recognition for those they admire all over the world so nothing is wrong if the PPP is pushing for a stamp for their idol. Granger suddenly realized that Chung was also born in 1918 even though it was since January. If he is so particular about it, why didn't he do something before January 10th? 

nobody here arguing that it is wrong for the PPP to push for a Cheddi Jagan stamp

and yes, Granger using the Arthur Chung thing to 'balance up'

in his mind he is being Solomonic 

ronan posted:

does anyone recall PNC gov't issuing a Burnham stamp . . . and, if that was done, what did it say?

 Bwoy his Racist Dictator Burnham picture was on every exercise book watching you like the monster he was and the same goes for the vindictive Dumbger so petty and racist in all his actions.

randolph posted:

ronan posted:

does anyone recall PNC gov't issuing a Burnham stamp . . . and, if that was done, what did it say?

 Bwoy his Racist Dictator Burnham picture was on every exercise book watching you like the monster he was and the same goes for the vindictive Dumbger so petty and racist in all his actions.

now that you got that off your imaginary muscular hairy chest

do you have an answer to my question?

I don't know why this comes as a surprise. During a PNC address before he became president, he praises Burnham and belittles Jagan work and legacy as if he doesn't mean anything. After he became president, he tried to destroy the RED HOUSE and Jagan legacy. Granger slap, kick and now spit in the PPP face and you guys see this as a surprise? Granger simply doesn't want "anything PPP" to cast a shadow on him and the PNC. 

ksazma posted:

How can Burnham be equally the father of the nation as Jagan was when Jagan's political vision for Guyana began even before Burnham got into Guyana's politics?

Black ppl been fighting for freedom since Cuffy time, all dat blood and brutality endured by the blackman for centuries and it is expected that the blackman should accept the Indian Jagan as the father of the nation. 

They would much prefer not to have a Father of the Nation, just to save the masses of citizens not to be bothered by the choice.

East Indians seems to think CBJ done them lots of good and so they believe he is a father. Judge Joey, he doan look like he honor his father in life. In death maybe for his own reasons. 

East Indians, simply wants to force upon the country a Communist who caused them much pain, sufferings and banishment from Guyana. Why would they want to remember such an individual? Even Bharrat Jagdeo wouldn't remember CBJ except for the fact the dead man ghost is constantly resurrected to bring East Indians in line.

Granger's racist mind made the right call, CBJ was a President and not the father of the nation.

I would sooner ignore all past Presidents, they have not moved the country forward. Each was prejudiced and their policies still plauged the nation to this very day. 

In North America, immigrants are pulling down statues due to racist policies. Jagan was a racist, he denied Black Leadership in the PPP and promoted Jagdeo, a presumed racist. If Granger speaks for Black ppl, then his objections is legit. 

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

People petition for recognition for those they admire all over the world so nothing is wrong if the PPP is pushing for a stamp for their idol. Granger suddenly realized that Chung was also born in 1918 even though it was since January. If he is so particular about it, why didn't he do something before January 10th? 

nobody here arguing that it is wrong for the PPP to push for a Cheddi Jagan stamp

and yes, Granger using the Arthur Chung thing to 'balance up'

in his mind he is being Solomonic 

Ask Dumdger - he worship the Kabaka, he should know

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

I did not say any recognition was already bestowed on Burnham. 

seriously? 

smh

I stand by my statement highlighted above.

Your head shakes like a bobble head.

This issue reflects the dysfunctional nature of Guyana's politics and the nation as a whole.  Something like this is so divisive.  He was the president for 5 years and an anti-colonial champion, along with Burnham and others.  Why could it not be done simply for the fact without getting into the partisan politics which continues unabated?  We cannot even respect the memory of a dead leader.  It is not like Germany celebrating Hitler!

These are the things which stand in the way of reconciliation between the two main groups.  Granger is just like the rest!  Guyana will continue this checkmate dysfunctional politics into the next generation!

The last vestige of decency was removed.

Why was the healing action scrapped?

There is a need to revisit the decision

ronan posted:

does anyone recall PNC gov't issuing a Burnham stamp . . . and, if that was done, what did it say?

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

People petition for recognition for those they admire all over the world so nothing is wrong if the PPP is pushing for a stamp for their idol. Granger suddenly realized that Chung was also born in 1918 even though it was since January. If he is so particular about it, why didn't he do something before January 10th? 

nobody here arguing that it is wrong for the PPP to push for a Cheddi Jagan stamp

and yes, Granger using the Arthur Chung thing to 'balance up'

in his mind he is being Solomonic 

He does not have what it takes to be Solomonic. Even if it is in his mind. He constantly pays tribute to Burnham's gravesite. I have not seen any report of him paying similar tributes to either Jagan or Chung. He sat on his face allowing Chung's Centennial to pass by while the PPP brass sought and got approval to commemorate Jagan's. Hughes announced since February 12th that the stamps would be issued to commemorate Jagan's centennial anniversary. Yet Granger continued to sit on his face for nearly another six week. Now as Jagan's Centennial came and went, he is talking about national symbol. He is only fooling those who are willing to be fooled.

This PNC in your face racism pisses me off.  When I see this, who gives a fvck of the flaws of Jagdeo, if he can take the Govt back fine, let it be!

ksazma posted:

I stand by my statement highlighted above.

i know

reading u and most others responding here is depressing 

fortunately, expressing yourself coherently is not such a hard thing to do

you just need to take deep breaths and clear your mind of the . . . race rage

try it

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

I stand by my statement highlighted above.

i know

reading u and most others responding here is depressing 

fortunately, expressing yourself coherently is not such a hard thing to do

you just need to take deep breaths and clear your mind of the . . . race rage

try it

Race rage in my mind is just your imagination dude.

ksazma posted:

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

I stand by my statement highlighted above.

i know

reading u and most others responding here is depressing 

fortunately, expressing yourself coherently is not such a hard thing to do

you just need to take deep breaths and clear your mind of the . . . race rage

try it

Race rage in my mind is just your imagination dude.

When he was posting as Redux and the PPP was in power, his race rage was very palpable!

Baseman posted:

When he was posting as Redux and the PPP was in power, his race rage was very palpable!

the difference is that i (and redux, and a few others) bring the facts with argument while y'all is all about gross ignorance, fulmination, passion, tribalism, lies and hate

ronan posted:

Baseman posted:

When he was posting as Redux and the PPP was in power, his race rage was very palpable!

the difference is that i (and redux, and a few others) bring the facts with argument while y'all is all about gross ignorance, fulmination, passion, tribalism, lies and hate

Again, just your imagination.

Regarding, you, Redux and a few others, it was only Redux (or one of his handles) that I remembered complaining that he is leaving because no one cared to take him seriously (or something to that effect).

GNI is where we hangout. Why would anyone complain that they are not getting the recognition they expect?

Gilbakka posted:

ronan posted:

does anyone recall PNC gov't issuing a Burnham stamp . . . and, if that was done, what did it say?

 

thank you Gilbakka

your Guyana research skills are non pareil

ksazma posted:

ronan posted:

Baseman posted:

When he was posting as Redux and the PPP was in power, his race rage was very palpable!

the difference is that i (and redux, and a few others) bring the facts with argument while y'all is all about gross ignorance, fulmination, passion, tribalism, lies and hate

Again, just your imagination.

Regarding, you, Redux and a few others, it was only Redux (or one of his handles) that I remembered complaining that he is leaving because no one cared to take him seriously (or something to that effect).

GNI is where we hangout. Why would anyone complain that they are not getting the recognition they expect?

I suggest you take your crocodile 'concerns' to redux