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Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House

The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the US electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.

 

Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” said a senior U.S. official briefed on an intelligence presentation made to US senators. “That’s the consensus view.”

The Obama administration has been debating for months how to respond to the alleged Russian intrusions, with White House officials concerned about escalating tensions with Moscow and being accused of trying to boost Clinton’s campaign.

In September, during a secret briefing for congressional leaders, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell voiced doubts about the veracity of the intelligence, according to officials present.

The Trump transition team dismissed the findings in a short statement issued Friday evening. “These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. The election ended a long time ago in one of the biggest Electoral College victories in history. It’s now time to move on and ‘Make America Great Again,’ ” the statement read.

Trump has consistently dismissed the intelligence community’s findings about Russian hacking.

“I don’t believe they interfered” in the election, he told Time magazine this week. The hacking, he said, “could be Russia. And it could be China. And it could be some guy in his home in New Jersey.”

Donald Trump is continuing his victory tour across the country.© Drew Angerer/Getty Images Donald Trump is continuing his victory tour across the country. The CIA shared its latest assessment with key senators in a closed-door briefing on Capitol Hill last week, in which agency officials cited a growing body of intelligence from multiple sources. Agency briefers told the senators it was now “quite clear” that electing Trump was Russia’s goal, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

The CIA presentation to senators about Russia’s intentions fell short of a formal US assessment produced by all 17 intelligence agencies. A senior US official said there were minor disagreements among intelligence officials about the agency’s assessment, in part because some questions remain unanswered.

For example, intelligence agencies do not have specific intelligence showing officials in the Kremlin “directing” the identified individuals to pass the Democratic emails to WikiLeaks, a second senior US official said. Those actors, according to the official, were “one step” removed from the Russian government, rather than government employees. Moscow has in the past used middlemen to participate in sensitive intelligence operations so it has plausible deniability.

Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, has said in a television interview that the “Russian government is not the source.”

The White House and CIA officials declined to comment.

On Friday, the White House said President Obama had ordered a “full review” of Russian hacking during the election campaign, as pressure from Congress has grown for greater public understanding of exactly what Moscow did to influence the electoral process.

“We may have crossed into a new threshold, and it is incumbent upon us to take stock of that, to review, to conduct some after-action, to understand what has happened and to impart some lessons learned,” Obama’s counterterrorism and homeland security adviser, Lisa Monaco, told reporters at a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor.

Obama wants the report before he leaves office January 20, Monaco said.

During her remarks, Monaco didn’t address the latest CIA assessment, which hasn’t been previously disclosed.

Seven Democratic senators last week asked Obama to declassify details about the intrusions and why officials believe that the Kremlin was behind the operation. Officials said Friday that the senators specifically were asking the White House to release portions of the CIA’s presentation.

This week, top Democratic lawmakers in the House also sent a letter to Obama, asking for briefings on Russian interference in the election.

U.S. intelligence agencies have been cautious for months in characterizing Russia’s motivations, reflecting the United States’ long-standing struggle to collect reliable intelligence on President Vladi­mir Putin and those closest to him.

In previous assessments, the CIA and other intelligence agencies told the White House and congressional leaders that they believed Moscow’s aim was to undermine confidence in the US electoral system. The assessments stopped short of saying the goal was to help elect Trump.

On October 7, the intelligence community officially accused Moscow of seeking to interfere in the election through the hacking of “political organisations.” Though the statement never specified which party, it was clear that officials were referring to cyber-intrusions into the computers of the DNC and other Democratic groups and individuals.

Some key Republican lawmakers have continued to question the quality of evidence supporting Russian involvement.

“I’ll be the first one to come out and point at Russia if there’s clear evidence, but there is no clear evidence — even now,” said Congressman Devin Nunes, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and a member of the Trump transition team. “There’s a lot of innuendo, lots of circumstantial evidence, that’s it.”

Though Russia has long conducted cyberspying on US agencies, companies and organisations, this presidential campaign marks the first time Moscow has attempted through cyber-means to interfere in, if not actively influence, the outcome of an election, the officials said.

The reluctance of the Obama White House to respond to the alleged Russian intrusions before Election Day upset Democrats on the Hill as well as members of the Clinton campaign.

Within the administration, top officials from different agencies sparred over whether and how to respond. White House officials were concerned that covert retaliatory measures might risk an escalation in which Russia, with sophisticated cyber-capabilities, might have less to lose than the United States, with its vast and vulnerable digital infrastructure.

The White House’s reluctance to take that risk left Washington weighing more-limited measures, including the “naming and shaming” approach of publicly blaming Moscow.

By mid-September, White House officials had decided it was time to take that step, but they worried that doing so unilaterally and without bipartisan congressional backing just weeks before the election would make Obama vulnerable to charges that he was using intelligence for political purposes.

Instead, officials devised a plan to seek bipartisan support from top lawmakers and set up a secret meeting with the Gang of 12 — a group that includes House and Senate leaders, as well as the chairmen and ranking members of both chambers’ committees on intelligence and homeland security.

Obama dispatched Monaco, FBI Director James B Comey and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson to make the pitch for a “show of solidarity and bipartisan unity” against Russian interference in the election, according to a senior administration official.

Specifically, the White House wanted congressional leaders to sign off on a bipartisan statement urging state and local officials to take federal help in protecting their voting-registration and balloting machines from Russian cyber-intrusions.

Though US intelligence agencies were sceptical that hackers would be able to manipulate the election results in a systematic way, the White House feared that Russia would attempt to do so, sowing doubt about the fundamental mechanisms of democracy and potentially forcing a more dangerous confrontation between Washington and Moscow.

In a secure room in the Capitol used for briefings involving classified information, administration officials broadly laid out the evidence US spy agencies had collected, showing Russia’s role in cyber-intrusions in at least two states and in hacking the emails of the Democratic organisations and individuals.

And they made a case for a united, bipartisan front in response to what one official described as “the threat posed by unprecedented meddling by a foreign power in our election process.”

The Democratic leaders in the room unanimously agreed on the need to take the threat seriously. Republicans, however, were divided, with at least two GOP lawmakers reluctant to accede to the White House requests.

According to several officials, McConnell raised doubts about the underlying intelligence and made clear to the administration that he would consider any effort by the White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics.

Some of the Republicans in the briefing also seemed opposed to the idea of going public with such explosive allegations in the final stages of an election, a move that they argued would only rattle public confidence and play into Moscow’s hands.

McConnell’s office did not respond to a request for comment. After the election, Trump chose McConnell’s wife, Elaine Chao, as his nominee for transportation secretary.

Some Clinton supporters saw the White House’s reluctance to act without bipartisan support as further evidence of an excessive caution in facing adversaries.

“The lack of an administration response on the Russian hacking cannot be attributed to Congress,” said Congressman Adam B Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, who was at the September meeting. “The administration has all the tools it needs to respond. They have the ability to impose sanctions. They have the ability to take clandestine means. The administration has decided not to utilise them in a way that would deter the Russians, and I think that’s a problem.”

 

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This is real funny shyte.

The USA recently conducted "regime change" operations in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine and even Guyana.

Now it seems the Russians conducted regime change in the USA, and without any bloodshed!

FM

Painted Matryoshka dolls, or Russian nesting dolls, bearing the faces of U.S. Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French President Francois Hollande and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

© Reuters/Sergei Karpukhin Painted Matryoshka dolls, or Russian nesting dolls, bearing the faces of U.S. Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French President Francois Hollande and Russian…

Mitwah
RiffRaff posted:

We all knew this because Wikileaks was only releasing info on one side....bet if this was against the Repubs they would have started years of investigations

You should look at the "Messy truth" and see what drove the turn over to Trump in key states.  This had little or nothing to do with Wikileaks.

In the end though, were any of these leaks inaccurate?  I did not even see Donna Brazile deny passing questions to Hillary before the debates.  She just accepted her firing from CNN without contest!

Fact of the matter, there is no evidence the Russians had any material impact on the outcome of the elections!

FM

CIA came to the conclusion that the Russians hacked the Dems to throw the election to Trump...nothing you say can change that

Like I siad, if the shoe was on the other foot..Repubs and their idiotic talk radio and TV shills would be like screaming banshees

FM

Listen, even Hillary said it was the FBI and Comey's actions which had the most material impact on the outcome.  So, Obama should investigate the FBI, not Russians regarding any intervention in the elections!

You Hillaryites are like headless chickens!

FM
RiffRaff posted:

Reporting real news...not all that fake stuff the Repub banshees did during the election

The real news is Hillary lost and she blamed the FBI and Comey!  Tell Obama to investigate that!

FM
ba$eman posted:
RiffRaff posted:

We all knew this because Wikileaks was only releasing info on one side....bet if this was against the Repubs they would have started years of investigations

You should look at the "Messy truth" and see what drove the turn over to Trump in key states.  This had little or nothing to do with Wikileaks.

In the end though, were any of these leaks inaccurate?  I did not even see Donna Brazile deny passing questions to Hillary before the debates.  She just accepted her firing from CNN without contest!

Fact of the matter, there is no evidence the Russians had any material impact on the outcome of the elections!

if it was not material for consumption and to move opinions why did they massage the idea of conspiracy to defraud Bernie day in and day out? The Trump crew and slops like you are fact averse.

FM
ba$eman posted:
RiffRaff posted:

Reporting real news...not all that fake stuff the Repub banshees did during the election

The real news is Hillary lost and she blamed the FBI and Comey!  Tell Obama to investigate that!

Was it not fact Bernie lost so why did the Trump team and, again, slops like you chimed in daily about the DNC having an hand in the outcome? I have seen you prating on Donna and also on Debbie when you had no proof except these emails that they did something untoward in the win of Hillary over Bernie. Now you have 17 of the nations spy agencies hinting that something was amiss and  yet you folks refuse to see injury to Mrs C's campaign.

FM
ba$eman posted:
RiffRaff posted:

Reporting real news...not all that fake stuff the Repub banshees did during the election

The real news is Hillary lost and she blamed the FBI and Comey!  Tell Obama to investigate that!

Obama going to be an embarrasment. TRump will be President and Obama going to be the mouthpiece for every anti-Trump sentiments.

Obama fooling himself thinking he is super smart or a staunch American brighter than the average Afro-American. 

S
Danyael posted:
ba$eman posted:
RiffRaff posted:

Reporting real news...not all that fake stuff the Repub banshees did during the election

The real news is Hillary lost and she blamed the FBI and Comey!  Tell Obama to investigate that!

Was it not fact Bernie lost so why did the Trump team and, again, slops like you chimed in daily about the DNC having an hand in the outcome? I have seen you prating on Donna and also on Debbie when you had no proof except these emails that they did something untoward in the win of Hillary over Bernie. Now you have 17 of the nations spy agencies hinting that something was amiss and  yet you folks refuse to see injury to Mrs C's campaign.

 

The more Hillary demonized TRump the more determined she made his suporters. In a way she campaigned FOR him.

White ppl had enough of her. And she knew that, that is why she excelled towards Afro votes, Hispanic votes, Muslim votes. White ppl  probably considered her un-American, which is more like the Ruskies way of thinking.

People voted for a person willing to make the effort to give them back their jobs.

S
Danyael posted:
ba$eman posted:

The real news is Hillary lost and she blamed the FBI and Comey!  Tell Obama to investigate that!

Was it not fact Bernie lost so why did the Trump team and, again, slops like you chimed in daily about the DNC having an hand in the outcome? I have seen you prating on Donna and also on Debbie when you had no proof except these emails that they did something untoward in the win of Hillary over Bernie. Now you have 17 of the nations spy agencies hinting that something was amiss and  yet you folks refuse to see injury to Mrs C's campaign.

Go argue with the Bernie supporters who turned to Trump or the many youths who just stayed at home.  I have no issue with what they did to Bernie, they gave Trump the elections.  Good or them!!

Hillary lost because Bernie's blue-collar middle class in the blue-wall states went for Trump over crooked and arrogant Hillary!!

All you Liberal anti-Trumpsters will bust a vessel!

FM
seignet posted:
ba$eman posted:
RiffRaff posted:

Reporting real news...not all that fake stuff the Repub banshees did during the election

The real news is Hillary lost and she blamed the FBI and Comey!  Tell Obama to investigate that!

Obama going to be an embarrasment. TRump will be President and Obama going to be the mouthpiece for every anti-Trump sentiments.

Obama fooling himself thinking he is super smart or a staunch American brighter than the average Afro-American. 

What the hell do you mean brighter than the average afro american? You folks cannot help yourself with this racist jabs at everything.

Get it in your head before you keel over and die stupid. you old ignorant fool; black people are just as smart as any other group.

And Obama is very smart. He is a graduate of two of the best schools in the us and distinguished himself in both. He did not have to resort to the nasty lies or racism or name calling of that peculiar fellow now about to take office.

FM
ba$eman posted:
Danyael posted:
ba$eman posted:

The real news is Hillary lost and she blamed the FBI and Comey!  Tell Obama to investigate that!

Was it not fact Bernie lost so why did the Trump team and, again, slops like you chimed in daily about the DNC having an hand in the outcome? I have seen you prating on Donna and also on Debbie when you had no proof except these emails that they did something untoward in the win of Hillary over Bernie. Now you have 17 of the nations spy agencies hinting that something was amiss and  yet you folks refuse to see injury to Mrs C's campaign.

Go argue with the Bernie supporters who turned to Trump or the many youths who just stayed at home.  I have no issue with what they did to Bernie, they gave Trump the elections.  Good or them!!

Hillary lost because Bernie's blue-collar middle class in the blue-wall states went for Trump over crooked and arrogant Hillary!!

All you Liberal anti-Trumpsters will bust a vessel!

This is an intellectual argument on basis of logical propositions you declare in one instance to support and in another to disavow. It is about the law of contradiction. A thing is what it is or not.

FM
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Danyael posted:
ba$eman posted:

Go argue with the Bernie supporters who turned to Trump or the many youths who just stayed at home.  I have no issue with what they did to Bernie, they gave Trump the elections.  Good or them!!

Hillary lost because Bernie's blue-collar middle class in the blue-wall states went for Trump over crooked and arrogant Hillary!!

All you Liberal anti-Trumpsters will bust a vessel!

This is an intellectual argument on basis of logical propositions you declare in one instance to support and in another to disavow. It is about the law of contradiction. A thing is what it is or not.

Too bad, Hillary intellectual positions did not win her.

FM
Danyael posted:
seignet posted:
ba$eman posted:
RiffRaff posted:

Reporting real news...not all that fake stuff the Repub banshees did during the election

The real news is Hillary lost and she blamed the FBI and Comey!  Tell Obama to investigate that!

Obama going to be an embarrasment. TRump will be President and Obama going to be the mouthpiece for every anti-Trump sentiments.

Obama fooling himself thinking he is super smart or a staunch American brighter than the average Afro-American. 

What the hell do you mean brighter than the average afro american? You folks cannot help yourself with this racist jabs at everything.

Get it in your head before you keel over and die stupid. you old ignorant fool; black people are just as smart as any other group.

And Obama is very smart. He is a graduate of two of the best schools in the us and distinguished himself in both. He did not have to resort to the nasty lies or racism or name calling of that peculiar fellow now about to take office.

YOU ARE AN idiot.

S
ba$eman posted:

t.

Too bad, Hillary intellectual positions did not win her.

Rather too bad events including local negligence/cronyism in collusion with foreign actors conspired to put a turd in the highest office of the land.

However, it is still disconcerting you use logic conveniently. Hopefully it is because you are simply ignorant and not deliberately dissimiulative of truths.

FM
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Danyael posted:
ba$eman posted:

t.

Too bad, Hillary intellectual positions did not win her.

Rather too bad events including local negligence/cronyism in collusion with foreign actors conspired to put a turd in the highest office of the land.

However, it is still disconcerting you use logic conveniently. Hopefully it is because you are simply ignorant and not deliberately dissimiulative of truths.

There is one, and only one truth, Hillary lost, Trump won!

FM
ba$eman posted:
Danyael posted:
ba$eman posted:

t.

Too bad, Hillary intellectual positions did not win her.

Rather too bad events including local negligence/cronyism in collusion with foreign actors conspired to put a turd in the highest office of the land.

However, it is still disconcerting you use logic conveniently. Hopefully it is because you are simply ignorant and not deliberately dissimiulative of truths.

There is one, and only one truth, Hillary lost, Trump won!

with help from the Russians.

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
ba$eman posted:
Danyael posted:
ba$eman posted:

t.

Too bad, Hillary intellectual positions did not win her.

Rather too bad events including local negligence/cronyism in collusion with foreign actors conspired to put a turd in the highest office of the land.

However, it is still disconcerting you use logic conveniently. Hopefully it is because you are simply ignorant and not deliberately dissimiulative of truths.

There is one, and only one truth, Hillary lost, Trump won!

with help from the Russians.

Mitwah, show us the facts. 

FM
Cobra posted:
Mitwah posted:
ba$eman posted:
Danyael posted:
ba$eman posted:

t.

Too bad, Hillary intellectual positions did not win her.

Rather too bad events including local negligence/cronyism in collusion with foreign actors conspired to put a turd in the highest office of the land.

However, it is still disconcerting you use logic conveniently. Hopefully it is because you are simply ignorant and not deliberately dissimiulative of truths.

There is one, and only one truth, Hillary lost, Trump won!

with help from the Russians.

Mitwah, show us the facts. 

Call the CIA or Devin Nunes, a California Republican.

Mitwah
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ba$eman posted:
 

There is one, and only one truth, Hillary lost, Trump won!

I have no doubt you gleefully shout that from the rooftop even if the origins of the "truth" resides in a well orchestrated con and placed an incompetent racist in charge of this wonderful nation that has emerged to stand for what is good in the world. Nothing good can come from evil, that is the only eternal truth.

FM
Danyael posted:
ba$eman posted:
 

There is one, and only one truth, Hillary lost, Trump won!

 Nothing good can come from evil, that is the only eternal truth.

Maybe, but you back the PNC!!

FM

It is an established fact in the information security community that the Russians hacks was intended to influence the outcome of the elections and to create deep divisions in civil society. This was expressed in a keynote address at a leading conference on information security that I attended this summer.  Long before votes were cast. 

These buffoons here are low IQ people. Wait for the results from the investigation and be enlightened. 

Their goal is to weaken the US by creating civil unrest amongst its citizens.

FM

The world sees Obama as weak. He kept shifting aline drawn in the sand. All of the eye pass will end under Hillary.

All of this BS about Russian interference is just from sore loser Hillary and her followers.

Strong men and women support Trump. They are confident and made the right choice.

Look at Kari, he was clutching to straws on election night and then ran into hiding after he took a trashing at GNI.

FM

Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” said a senior U.S. official briefed on an intelligence presentation made to US senators. “That’s the consensus view.”

Mitwah
ba$eman posted:
Danyael posted:
ba$eman posted:
 

There is one, and only one truth, Hillary lost, Trump won!

 Nothing good can come from evil, that is the only eternal truth.

Maybe, but you back the PNC!!

The removal of the PPP is an essential good.

FM
RiffRaff posted:

Both Repubs & Dems want hacking investigated

Maybe this will be Trump's watergate

I do not think he has any direct collusion with the hacking. He took advantage of it and give tacit support when he said he wished they find all of Hillary emails. The Feds found that legally and it turned out to be nothing.

We have the office of the Presidency in the hands of opportunists and racists. I doubt the republican senate will let the prevailing attitudes towards cozying up to the Russians stand. I trust them...at least a significant number of senators to act as guardians of the nation and good judgement  more than this lot in office

FM

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