There is going to be a mad scramble in the Republican Party for a few days as the Establishment decides what to do next.

ksazma posted:

There is going to be a mad scramble in the Republican Party for a few days as the Establishment decides what to do next.

There is nothing more to do but embrace the next president, Donald Trump!!

ba$eman posted:

ksazma posted:

There is going to be a mad scramble in the Republican Party for a few days as the Establishment decides what to do next.

There is nothing more to do but embrace the next president, Donald Trump!!

Trump hasn't done anything yet. He has only gotten the majority of the Republican base which is less than the Democratic base. Independents generally vote Democrat.

Cruz has always been a Prick. Tonight he prove what he really is.

Chief posted:

Cruz has always been a Prick. Tonight he prove what he really is.

You need to start respect Prezzy Trump.  Shed your bad ways and come in from the dark side!!

Yes.

Brother Trump showed Chief who is the New Sheriff in Town.

My endorsement of Trump and Cobra and Base early selection of Trump was 1000 percent correct.

Americans are fed up with mainstream, old school politicians. Time for Change, Time for Trump.

ksazma posted:

ba$eman posted:

ksazma posted:

There is going to be a mad scramble in the Republican Party for a few days as the Establishment decides what to do next.

There is nothing more to do but embrace the next president, Donald Trump!!

Trump hasn't done anything yet. He has only gotten the majority of the Republican base which is less than the Democratic base. Independents generally vote Democrat.

You mistaken.  Republicans are busy running business, creating jobs, building the nation so they have less time for the Primary.  Unlike the Democrats many of whom live off welfare and get moving every four years to vote in the primary!

ba$eman posted:

Chief posted:

Cruz has always been a Prick. Tonight he prove what he really is.

You need to start respect Prezzy Trump.  Shed your bad ways and come in from the dark side!!

Come november I will remind you of today....that windbag trump will get a sound trashing. 30 percent of the electorate is already in the never trump room

Those living off welfare and sucking the blood taxpayers are worried that those capable of working now have to find REAL jobs and give back to the Country.

ba$eman posted:

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You mistaken.  Republicans are busy running business, creating jobs, building th.

Do you realize that the most prosperous parts of the USA are blue states?

The majority of the elites in NY vote Democrats, and the majority of the trailer park in WV vote GOP.

BTW up t 25% of the GOP don't plan to vote for Trump.

caribny posted:

ba$eman posted:

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You mistaken.  Republicans are busy running business, creating jobs, building th.

Do you realize that the most prosperous parts of the USA are blue states?

The majority of the elites in NY vote Democrats, and the majority of the trailer park in WV vote GOP.

BTW up t 25% of the GOP don't plan to vote for Trump.

Don't get overly excited.  Few short months ago, that number was 75%.  Crooked Hillary will soon be on the ropes!

President Trump!!!!  Most importantly though, Hilary lost Indiana on the Democratic side, a state she was supposed to win easily.  She is losing critical ground.  God Bless America!!!!!

yuji22 posted:

Those living off welfare and sucking the blood taxpayers are worried that those capable of working now have to find REAL jobs and give back to the Country.

 

You are talking exactly of Trump supporters moron!

Danyael posted:

yuji22 posted:

Those living off welfare and sucking the blood taxpayers are worried that those capable of working now have to find REAL jobs and give back to the Country.

 

You are talking exactly of Trump supporters moron!

He lives in Canada, what do you expect...ah bet he don't even know Appalachia exists

http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/0...white-men/index.html

They don't have college degrees. They have few job prospects. They feel left behind.

Nearly one-quarter of white men with only a high school diploma aren't working. Many of these men, age 25 to 64, aren't just unemployed ... they aren't even looking for a job, according to federal data.

Their college-educated peers, however, have fared much better. Only about one in 10 isn't working.

The plight of these blue collar workers is now in the national spotlight. The 2016 presidential election has awakened their political power and reshaped the course of the campaign.

Their anger -- which has brought millions to the polls, particularly on the Republican side -- has prompted the candidates to focus heavily on manufacturing, trade and other issues of importance to this slice of America. Four years ago, the GOP nominee Mitt Romney dismissed the 47% of Americans who don't pay taxes. Now, frontrunner Donald Trump proclaims that he loves "the poorly educated."

Related: Just how much better off are college grads anyway?

CNNMoney went in search of these men who feel forgotten by both Washington and the economy. It brought us to Scioto County, a stretch of Appalachia in southern Ohio just across the river from Kentucky, where only 53.8% of men age 16 to 64 are employed. While Ohio Governor John Kasich won the state, Trump was heavily favored in these parts.

It's tough to make a living in Scioto County these days. Gone are all but one of the shoe manufacturing factories that used to employ thousands. Shuttered are most of the steel mills that supported middle class families. Shrunken are the railroad maintenance yards that once carried coal from Kentucky and paid well.

The unemployment rate -- those who are out of work but actively looking for a job -- stood at 9.2% in February. The poverty rate is 27.2%, far above the state's 15.8% rate.

The layoffs are continuing. AK Steel let go of about 600 people a few months ago. CSX and Norfolk Southern railroads have downsized over the past year. Haverhill Chemical laid off more than 150 workers in August after new owners bought it and hired only some back.

Some of the Haverhill workers made $35 an hour, a wage "you just don't replace in this area," said Luanne Valentine, who oversees the OhioMeansJobs center in Scioto County, which has about 77,000 residents.

Related: Massacre rattles rural, Ohio community, where 'everybody's hurting'

One of the main problems: Many residents don't have the education or training to make it in today's economy. Only 14.4% have a college degree, compared to 25.6% statewide and 29.3% nationally.

A generation ago, Scioto residents didn't need to go to college to earn a decent wage.

"Thirty to 40 years ago, a man had a job at a shoe factory. His wife didn't work. They were able to raise a couple of kids," said Steve Sturgill, executive director of Community Action, which provides workforce and social support services for local residents. "That's not the case today."

Sure, there are some jobs available. But many of them pay minimum wage or just above. Local officials are trying to attract more employers, but the new positions often don't pay as much.

Paul Brown, 28, has worked his share of factory jobs in southern Ohio and in his hometown of Knoxville, Tenn., but most of them paid poorly. Brown, who earned his GED in 2007, bounced around, serving short stints at a landscaping products manufacturer, a plastics factory, an auto parts supplier and a truck assembly plant. Many of the positions were temporary, and he earned no more than $13.84 an hour for "very repetitive, strenuous work." There was little path to move up in pay or responsibility.

The Waverly, Ohio, resident doesn't see how one can support a family with a blue collar job today. He works as a service technician for a garage door company, earning $11 an hour. He's thankful to have work: It allows him to get by -- although living with relatives helps -- and send money to his two children from previous relationships. However, he says he couldn't afford to get married and raise a family.

Brown wants more than a dead-end job, but employers don't give people like him a chance to show them what he is capable of, he said.

"In Southern Ohio, job opportunities are slim to none unless you have a college degree or some type of training," said Brown, who is now studying to be an electrician in hopes of jump starting his career. "Even with those, it's hard."

Related: U.S. has lost 5 million manufacturing jobs since 2000

A family of four in Scioto County could have a nice, middle class life making $25 an hour, but to earn that much, both parents usually have to work, Sturgill said.

This dour economic reality has left many young adults struggling to make their way and older, displaced workers unable to regain their footing, Sturgill said. Federal funds to train them into new careers have dried up.

How do people cope? Those with skills and options have left town, moving to Columbus or Cincinnati (both about 90 to 100 miles away) -- or even further. Among those who remain, drug addiction is rampant. Nearly 5% of county residents are on disability, compared to 3.1% statewide. Others work multiple minimum wage jobs or off the books to make due in a job market that's passed them by.

Michael Cavins is one blue collar resident who feels left behind.

Growing up in rural Kentucky, where his family had to draw water from a stream at times, Cavins, 44, figured he'd follow his father and uncle into the coal mines. But by the time he graduated high school in 1990, the mines were shutting down. So he wound up working in factories in nearby Ohio, first inspecting truck doors for M&J Industries and then building kitchen cabinets at Mill's Pride. The pay wasn't great -- $12.75 an hour -- and he had to drive nearly an hour to the plant, but it allowed him to support a wife and two kids in Wheelersburg, Ohio. (He also has three older children from a previous marriage.)

Mill's Pride, however, shut its doors about five years ago, laying off about 1,400 people. When he found out the factory was closing, Cavins found a job at a pest control company, but had to quit a few years later after developing health problems.

Cavins has been on disability since 2014, when he was diagnosed with leukemia. His wife, who has thyroid cancer, is also on disability, leaving them struggling to pay the bills every month. They receive food stamps and are on Medicaid.

"My high school diploma took me as far as it could take me," said Cavins, who hasn't been able to find a decent-paying job. "I feel like I've been pushed aside. Everything is disappearing ... all the factory work is going overseas. If they keep sending it everywhere else, how are we supposed to survive?"

Related: $75 a day vs. $75,000 a year: How we lost jobs to Mexico

Cavins, who didn't vote in the primary but likes what Trump has to say about bringing factory jobs back to the U.S., thinks companies should manufacture more domestically and not just look for the cheapest place to produce their goods. That would help both Americans and the economy. But, he acknowledges it will take a lot of work.

Meanwhile, unlike some of his fellow factory workers, Cavins is determined to get a good job. He's betting that a yearlong course in industrial maintenance will give him the skills needed to work in heating and cooling services, which his online searches found can start at $40,000 a year. He's willing to leave Scioto County and work anywhere ... in a hospital, factory, school or water supply facility, for instance. One day, he'd like to start his own business.

The program, offered at Scioto County Career Technical Center, costs nearly $10,000 and has placed 95% of its graduates over the past two years in jobs that typically earn between $31,000 and $40,000 annually. To finance it, Cavins received a federal Pell Grant for $5,900 and took out two loans.

"I didn't think I'd get anywhere without learning a trade," said Cavins, who graduates in September. "I want to give my family better than what I had. I want to try to break the cycle and not live on disability."

So what happen to Carly Fiorina now?  That was like a one night stand.  Wam, bam, thank you mam!!!!!  Very shortlived hopes for being Vice President of the United States.

yuji22 posted:

Those living off welfare and sucking the blood taxpayers are worried that those capable of working now have to find REAL jobs and give back to the Country.

 

Don't worry bhai. They are praying for Bernie to win. They must really be feeling the BERN.

Suppose Cruz gives in and ride with Trump

I'll be surprised if he did that...

Amral posted:

Suppose Cruz gives in and ride with Trump

Not going to happen. Too much bad blood between The Donald and Cruz. The Donald doesn't need Cruz.

Amral posted:

Suppose Cruz gives in and ride with Trump

I think he would shoot himself first. Cruz is bright. Trump is a punk. They do not intersect intellectually or politically.

Ego could get the better of someone 

Bibi Haniffa posted:

So what happen to Carly Fiorina now?  That was like a one night stand.  Wam, bam, thank you mam!!!!!  Very shortlived hopes for being Vice President of the United States.

She is rich and white and educated and have a great resume so what can happen to her?

Bibi Haniffa posted:

President Trump!!!!  Most importantly though, Hilary lost Indiana on the Democratic side, a state she was supposed to win easily.  She is losing critical ground.  God Bless America!!!!!

Where did you get the notion that Indiana was going to be a Hillary state.  Even Hillary didn't think so, and barely campaigned there.  That is a state with Bernie marked all over it.

I would like to know if there is a way of finding out how many Guyanese naturalized US Citizens actually vote.

yuji22 posted:

Yes.

Brother Trump showed Chief who is the New Sheriff in Town.

My endorsement of Trump and Cobra and Base early selection of Trump was 1000 percent correct.

Americans are fed up with mainstream, old school politicians. Time for Change, Time for Trump.

Indeed, it will definitely be the time in November for Trump to be soundly trumped at the elections by Hillary Clinton.

John Kasick is dropping out of race.

Cnn.com

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

I would like to know if there is a way of finding out how many Guyanese naturalized US Citizens actually vote.

Based on neighborhood analysis, voting by English speaking Caribbean people is as high as that for the population at large, and higher than that for most immigrants.

So we aren't slackers when it comes to voting.   This refers more to Afro Caribbean voters, as (despite Vishnu's claims) RH/SOP cannot be verified as being as solidly Indo Caribbean as he claims.  Any case large numbers of Indo Caribs (maybe even most) don't live there.

Cobra posted:

John Kasick is dropping out of race.

Cnn.com

I am upset.  No fighting at the GOP convention.

However this might happen with the Dems, as Bernie doesn't seem to understand that he LOST!  Bernie is like Jagdeo!

Bernie has to admit that his appeal is limited to white liberals in very white states.  He will NOT win CA, as he has NOT won any state with a diverse population.  So how else can he claim to be the candidate?

This will be a low turn out election, unless fear of Trump turns out large numbers of Independents, and moderate Republicans.  It will be the base which shows up and almost 50% of the Dem base consist of minorities.

Demerara_Guy posted:

yuji22 posted:

Yes.

Brother Trump showed Chief who is the New Sheriff in Town.

My endorsement of Trump and Cobra and Base early selection of Trump was 1000 percent correct.

Americans are fed up with mainstream, old school politicians. Time for Change, Time for Trump.

Indeed, it will definitely be the time in November for Trump to be soundly trumped at the elections by Hillary Clinton.

One would think so, but the Dems have been known to seize defeat from the mouth of victory.

1. Hillary is a weak candidate, who has a white male problem. She needs to get at least 35% of them to win.

2. Bernie is acting like a grumpy senile old f*rt.  He needs to transition from attempting to be the candidate to ensuring that his ideas are included in the platform, and that he has strong influence in who the running mate should be. 

Obviously it will have to be a person who can appeal to the Bernie wing.  Hillary needs those same white men who voted for Bernie.

But if Bernie goes in screaming about polls then he is just going to create a problem.  It is known that people do not focus on the general election, until after Labor Day, and in any case polls tend to under estimate minorities.  Plus many of Bernie's people are college kids, who aren't or cannot register where they attend college.