Speaker of the National Assembly can make his decisions.

 

It will be seen how the issues will on-fold from one court setting to another.

 

Eventually an election will be held, at least, by the end of 2016.

 

As I have always said .. time and patience.

Don:

 

When the Guyanese people look at the joint opposition in parliament, they see a bunch of brash, brazen, hasty, irrational, and inconsiderate bastards.

 

On the other hand when they look at the President, they see a diligent, thoughtful and responsible leader.

 

You need to calm down dondadda---give the joint opposition more rope to hang themselves.

 

Rev

Look where time and patience have got us. The speaker breaking the law and he is free. Others break the law stealing bread gets jailed. Speak about lawlessness and injustice in Guyana.

With the one-seat majority of the PNC cum AFC, the people of Guyana have ample opportunities to see how they will govern and behave were they the government.

 

While the situation indeed can be uncomfortable for individuals, the next election will be quite a shock for the current opposition parties.

Correct.

Or a shock for the current government for their inaction. It is clear to see that the opposition is playing with Ramo. By the way I know how the PNC governed the country and behaved against their fellow countrymen. No one including the current generation should experience how the PNC governed the country. 

While it can indeed appear as inaction, remember that the current government needs to manage the affairs of the country. There must be pressing issues that would necessitate an election before the scheduled due date.

 

When the next election is held, we all will see the results.

 

My prediction is that the PNCs seats will be reduced considerably and the AFC may retain a few seats if ROAR members stay with them-AFC.

"On the other hand when they look at the President, they see a diligent, thoughtful and responsible leader." Rev. do you know how silly you sound telling me to calm down. What did I say that is not fact.

The PPP will not hold snap elections and risk losing power as this ultimately is what it is all about. It is better for them to ride out the next 4 years and harness whatever power they retain to develop and plunder the nation. They thief but they give back, unlike what would happen with an afc/pnc govt where there would only be thieving and no giving back. 

ahmmm . . . ok

 

 

Don:

 

This remark by you is not a fact---not truthful:

 

"...the incompetent President...."

 

 

You strike me as hasty, impatient and impetuous Don.

 

Rev

donmamma just being honest

The Hon. Chief Justice’s “ruling” was restricted to one matter: whether the Minister of Finance could make advances and withdrawals from the Contingency and Consolidated Funds. (Snews)

The speaker is a lawyer and the head of our law making body and was asked to make a ruling and he did. Do we go about jailing members of parliament for making a decision? You are plainly a silly person. 

 

The speaker is there to serve the people not the PPP. If Ramotar wants to call an election he is within his right to do so.

 Another of your loose, stupid comments. You can speak for yourself not Guyanese. You do not know the minds of the people, only yours.

 

The PPP has created a pall of corruption that cloaks the society so Guyanese can see for themselves what an abominable administration they face and make a decision on their own. Of course I hope they recognize the thieves and label them appropriately.

 

The opposition is doing exactly what should have been done all along so these crooks could not have appropriated the nations assets as easily as they have to rapidly become fat cats when they, all to a man,  were church mice.

The Opposition does NOT believe in The Rule of Law. They are a LAWLESS BUNCH of MO FIAH SLO FIAH!!!

A lesson about civilization for de Guyanese.

 

 

Now.....Who Civilize and who is the Jack ass.

 

Who Civilize and who is the Ram Goat.

 

Who Civilize and who is the Monkey.

 

 

Who Civilize and who is the Tom  Cat.(Bharrat-Poke)

    

 Who Civilize and who is the Snake.   

 

Now.....Who Civilize and who is the Jack ass.

rass Jalil...dat is good

Stormy:

 

Hopefully you'll grow up mentally one day and realize that for nearly every comment you make in life---there is a good chance half the people will agree with you and the other half will vehemently disagree.

 

You stormy fall in the half who disagree with the Rev's comment----and so you do what you do best---call names, talk trash and engage in personal attacks.

 

 

Read my comments again:

 

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When the Guyanese people look at the joint opposition in parliament, they see a bunch of brash, brazen, hasty, irrational, and inconsiderate bastards.

 

On the other hand when they look at the President, they see a diligent, thoughtful and responsible leader.

 

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Rev

 

Rev

 

you sound like a man who has never visited Guyana since you left...obviously, it's easy to type fart in the US

I was there late last year. Had a wonderful time as usual.

 

I am willing to bet you guys like stromborn and caribJ haven't visited Guyana since their beloved PNC was kicked out of office.

 

How about you ray---when is the last time you visited Guyana ?

 

Rev

late last year

I hate to disappoint you but I am none of the above. I believe in the truth and facts. 

Stormy, would you not celebrate in the streets if all the PPP Members of Parliament go to jail because of decisions they have made? Would you not celebrate if the APNU/AFC take over? Be honest to yourself and stop being two faced. 

Yes, I would.

The Speaker's ruling presents legal conundrum, Parliament is exercising powers it doesn't have!!!

The speaker's ruling needs to be read properly and understood before you bray.

 

Speaker rules budget can be cut

 

- urges responsible use of cutting powers

- Govt. says will “abide” by ruling

In a decision the opposition hailed as landmark and transformational, Speaker Raphael Trotman yesterday ruled that the National Assembly does have powers to cut the national budget.
In giving his ruling, the Speaker referred to the Constitution, the Parliamentary Standing Orders, and the Finance Minister’s statement last year that the House indeed can make amendments, or cuts, to the budget.

Government leader in the House, Prime Minister Samuel Hinds, said that the government would “abide” by the ruling, but the Attorney General said that the decision of the Speaker collides with the decision of the Chief Justice.
The Chief Justice last year ruled that the House does not have the power to cut the budget, but only to either approve or disapprove.
Attorney General and Minister of Legal Affairs, Anil Nandlall, said the option of a fresh challenge in the court is open, but will depend on what Cabinet decides.
Nandlall said he found himself in an “extremely difficult position” in answering what will happen when, as he anticipates, the Chief Justice confirms his ruling. The Attorney General was at a loss on how to advise the government further.
And so last evening, consideration of the estimates began, with the government facing cuts to the budget.
Prime Minister Hinds said that it was in the government’s interest to proceed with the consideration of the estimates, because there needs to be a budget by the end of April.
The Speaker in his ruling, on the grounds of separation of powers, ruled that the court does not have supervisory powers over the National Assembly. According to Trotman, the Standing Orders are what dictate how the House conducts its business.
Trotman said there is no duty of the House to adopt rulings of the Court and he was not convinced that the court has a supervisory rule over the National Assembly.
The Attorney General said if the entire country were to take the position of the Speaker, then there would be no law and order in the country.
The Speaker had agreed with former speaker Ralph Ramkarran who said that the Standing Orders are as good as written law and could determine the House’s business and that the courts cannot supersede the Standing Orders. Ramjattan had argued that the Standing Orders allow for amendments to the budget.
The Attorney General had argued that if the drafters of the Constitution had wanted the House to exercise the power to cut, they could have said so explicitly in the Constitution, as was done in India.
The Attorney General refused the arguments of the opposition that an appeal could not have been made of the Chief Justice’s ruling, because that ruling is not final. Nandlall said the opposition’s claim is frivolous and vexatious and puerile.
A Partnership for National Unity (APNU)’s Basil Williams said the Chief Justice’s provisional ruling is “light years” away from being made final.
Deborah Backer, Parliamentarian with APNU, argued that since the end of the 2012 budget, the Opposition Leader, Brigadier (retired) David Granger, had initiated 2013 budget talks. She said if there are and were ongoing budget talks, events like yesterday’s protest by East Bank Berbice residents to have their roads fixed would not have had happened.
She said that ongoing talks would result in a budget that could be roundly supported, though each side of the House might not get everything they want.
The Finance Minister said there was already an extensive consultation process on the budget when asked whether he would consider a more formal mechanism for budget talks with the opposition. The Minister pointed out that the Private Sector had agreed that some of their suggestions were taken on board and included in the budget.
The Finance Minister said that the cuts being proposed by the AFC (no cuts have been formally proposed by APNU) are without merit and go to the core of important developmental projects.
APNU is consulting the AFC on its proposed cuts, which could add up to $38 billion, and would support that party on some of its cuts.
The Speaker in his ruling said that $20.9 million was cut from the budget last year, and the Finance Minister reported to the Assembly with an Appropriation Bill and urged for that Bill to be passed with “amendments” and therefore accepting that amendments could be made. That Bill, with amendments, was signed by the President, thus approving the budget.
The opposition’s trump card, which was quoted by the Speaker in his ruling, came from AFC leader Khemraj Ramjattan. He quoted from a statement of the Finance Minister  Dr. Ashni Singh on April 17, 2012 when he said “it is the legitimate right of the opposition to propose any change within the boundary of the Standing Orders.”
The Finance Minister had said, then, that the ruling PPP/C would defend the right of the Opposition to question the estimates and make amendments.
That essentially chewed up Singh, and the rest of the government’s arguments that the Opposition cannot cut the budget.
Both the AFC and APNU have said that the budget cuts could be avoided if the government comes clean on its spending.
The Opposition parties are due to meet with President Donald Ramotar again today as the government and Opposition look to gain consensus on the budget.

 

 

It is crystal clear---Speaker Trotman views himself to be above the law.

 

IS THAT OK WITH THE MAJORITY OF GUYANESE PEOPLE ?

 

Rev

Only the nincompoops here do not understand the speaker's ruling and are braying uselessly. The government has already accepted the ruling since they know that it's not an incorrect one and there's nothing they can do about it.

 

 

Hilarious! 

I think you are woefully mistaken as to the ruling by the CJ. He ruled per the cuts last year not that cuts cannot be made. He cited no law but crafted an opinion. No law is broken, a right is assumed.

 

The PPP, are breaking the laws everyday. No one has seen the lotto funds per the rules. The NICIL has not given an accounting to date. The presentation offered up so far is obfuscation. We need line item accounting with credits and debits. IF the time comes that there is a chance to put these crooks in jail for stealing that is a criminal infraction vs the worse the opposition can make in this instance is a procedural infraction. They would not have pocketed the state's money.

Trotman should be jailed. My grand father used to tell me that these people are dangerous. They are hungry for power and will do anything to keep the PPP from governing. These people will eat in your plate and bore a big hole in it. Dem cannot even run a cake shop and they are trying to run parliament to satisfy the PNC and PNC Indians who want to destroy Guyana.

 

I have said all along that the PPP should have shown no mercy to these rascals and dirtbags. They should have left Nigel in the forest. They will turn around and stab you in the back and bore a big hole in your plate after eating in it. These rascals are out to destroy Guyana.

yuh talk a good game far far from Guyana...why don't you go and try jail them...wait, yuh too frighten like yuh fellow PPPites...ayuh jus like talk tripe on ah message board...

 What the hell does it matter if half of the people would agree or not if you are demonstrably stupid?

 

The example of this president to date is that of a rent seeking opportunist.

The Ballahoo Brahmin can only parrot the tag lines that the racist Rev has programmed him to repeat. His purpose here is to be Rev's head butt boy in charge. Ask him to put forward an argument as to why the speaker's ruling is incorrect and he'll be lost for words just like his handler would be. Same old PPP race baiting tricks they're up to. Idiots!

Obviously sub par intellect and the penchant for stupid argumentation is a genetic trait since as you say, your grandfather's wisdom is what you express. Power is an equation, those who seek it are opposed by those who have it. By itself it is not evil as it motivates both the slave and the master or the saint and the sinner.

 

Your failure to grasp the budget is the product of an autocracy and the defense of it as a legal and legitimate necessity is under-girded by nothing but the amoral drive of the PPP to do as they please. Were we not in the adversarial position where the greedy PPP and their corrupt practices makes vetoing their project a necessity we would have had a communitarian approach to economic strategies. Well, the PPP sees the state as its prize so they intend to use it as they see fit with no accountability. Well those days are over and no amount of crocodile tears, rending of clothes or fasting on sack cloth will redeem them.