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I think the APNU should get the nod, but if Moses does get the decision ... I hope he lights a fire under the PPP parliamentarians chairs.

Speaker will definitely be from opposition but who?
By Stabroek staff | 26 Comments | Local | Thursday, December 22, 2011 Share

A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) and the Alliance For Change (AFC) are still locked in discussions as to who will be the Opposition nominee for Speaker of the National Assembly but AFC Chairman Khemraj Ramjattan yesterday held out that he wanted Moses Nagamootoo to fill the post.
However, AFC Leader Raphael Trotman told Stabroek News that the party will not abstain from the vote on the Speaker at the expense of an opposition person. “We definitely want an opposition nominee to be speaker,” he said. The PPP/C would like for Ralph Ramkarran to be returned as Speaker of the National Assembly, while APNU wants Deborah Backer to fill the role.

Ramjattan, who had previously hinted at possible support for Backer, yesterday insisted that the party was fully supporting Nagamootoo for the post, while adding that a decision could be made within a matter of days and “I didn’t tell you I am supporting the APNU’s candidate, I am supporting a fellow by the name of Nagamootoo,” Ramjattan said, during a press briefing yesterday. Nagamootoo, who was a PPP member for more than 50 years recently joined the AFC just ahead of the November 28 polls and Ramjattan insisted that he had all the qualities needed to be an effective Speaker. Ramjattan said that the final decision would be made by consensus and magnanimity between the parties. The AFC also indicated that its other nominee for the post, Trotman, withdrew his name.


Deborah Backer
Ramjattan said Nagamootoo possessed all the qualities to be an outstanding Speaker. “Experience, legal knowledge, knowing the Sir Michael Davies report, being with the constitutional reform commission from day one, understanding what needs to make parliament the premier institution of the land, a capacity to be diplomatic when that is required, a capacity to be very brutal if that is required,” Ramjattan listed as the qualities.

When asked if he considered Nagamootoo to be a polarizing figure, Ramjattan’s reply was: “absolutely not, as a matter of fact, he is as consensual as it can get,” Ramjattan said.

Meanwhile, APNU deputy leader Dr Rupert Roopnaraine indicated that the parties were closer to settling on a candidate, while indicating that the two parties hope to hammer out the issue before their next engagement with the government. This meeting is scheduled for next week.

Recently APNU Leader David Granger told Stabroek News that APNU and the AFC were committed to selecting a candidate that would best meet a set of identified requirements. He said that at first the parties were caught up with personalities but since then the talks have come on track with the focus being on seeing what is best needed for the effective running of the National Assembly and in selecting someone who can effectively do this. While conceding that the decision was taking some time, Granger said that the parties were not in a rush to make a bad decision.


Moses Nagamootoo
Contacted yesterday presidential advisor on governance Gail Teixeira said she expected a decision on who will be speaker to be made soon. She said that the parties were expected to meet yesterday to discuss the lists of priorities but the meeting had to be postponed after all the parties did not submit their lists. The government, she said, had submitted their lists to APNU and the AFC on Monday evening, while APNU submitted a list yesterday. The AFC is yet to submit their list but Ramjattan indicated that this would be done today.

Teixeira had previously told Stabroek News that whoever will be chosen as speaker would be selected by consensus and magnanimity by the parties.

The selection of the Speaker and Deputy Speaker will be the first matter of business for the hung parliament when it is convened next month.

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The PPP has 32 votes, they will decide who gets the seat. There is speculation that the PPP might force the opposition to speak with one voice.
Keep dreaming.

Do you think the opposition will allow that to happen. Dude the oppositionj will select a candidate and it definitely won't be the PPP's candidate.

What part of the word minority gov't don't you understand?

You get the title president ... a combined opposition pretty much gets everything else.
FM
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Originally posted by Nuff:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The PPP has 32 votes, they will decide who gets the seat. There is speculation that the PPP might force the opposition to speak with one voice.
Keep dreaming.

Do you think the opposition will allow that to happen. Dude the oppositionj will select a candidate and it definitely won't be the PPP's candidate.

What part of the word minority gov't don't you understand?

You get the title president ... a combined opposition pretty much gets everything else.


The PPP will not support an AFC candidate.
The opposition has put up two candidates. Their vote is split.. The PNC and the AFC has not decided to put up one candidate, that is your wish not their's.. But if they decide to put one candidate, the PPP will not withdraw their's.
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The PPP has 32 votes, they will decide who gets the seat. There is speculation that the PPP might force the opposition to speak with one voice.


With only 48% aya lucky if Ramkarran get appointed as Deputy Speaker.
FM
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Originally posted by Jalil:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The PPP has 32 votes, they will decide who gets the seat. There is speculation that the PPP might force the opposition to speak with one voice.


With only 48% aya lucky if Ramkarran get appointed as Deputy Speaker.


Ramkarran may not even want the job.. Don't assume that the AFC will vote with PNC although we all know that they would in certain situations and other situations they will vote according to the issues..
FM
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Originally posted by alena:
The opposition cannot agree on a common candidate. the speaker goes to the PPP.


No! The AFC said when push comes to shove they will support APNU'S CANDIDATE, who now is looking at a technocrat's position with the PPP>
FM
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Originally posted by alena:
The votes will tell, but the PPP takes the cake on the speaker position. IT will be a test for the AFC boys to see if they support the PNC, and want to be seen as hooligans.


you wish they wouldn't support them...but they would...and rightly so..

The people voted to put PPP in a minority position, APNU/AFC will work for the future of all Guyana...not just one segment of Guyana
FM
You PPP stalwarts keep on dreaming. Do you think the opposition won't unite behind a common speaker from either party?

I guess you know nothing about politics. There is a lot of sabre rattling going on but at the end of the day, the opposition will come up with a common candiate from either the APNU or AFC.

Ramjattan has to make it look like he didn't roll over and he's pushing for Moses. Moses is the only candidate being nominated by the AFC and Debra is the only candidate being nominated from the APNU.

This isn't rocket science. One of them, will get the nod. I think Debra will.
FM
This will be an important step if the AFC/PNC can agree on a speaker. It may be a precursor to how they will vote on important legislation. Democracy at its best. The PPP boys better shape up as we see a new dawn arising, no more wasting money. Of course we also have to be careful that the APNU don't try to pass legislation to grant reparations to the Black race, making the Indians pay for the suffering of Blacks perpetrated by the Whites. hahahhahaha
FM
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Originally posted by alena:
The votes will tell, but the PPP takes the cake on the speaker position. IT will be a test for the AFC boys to see if they support the PNC, and want to be seen as hooligans.
who the hell care about the ppp.the AFC will support the APNU hooligans,than support the ppp thivies
FM
The fact that Moses is already on the AFC MP list and Debra isn't on the APNU MP list ... leads me to believe she will get the nod.

I don't think we have to read too deep between the lines. Moses already has a job, Deb doesn't.
FM
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Originally posted by alena:
Common sense dictates that Ramjattan will not support a PNC speaker. he knows AFC will crumble next election if he does!!!!
Excuse me ... where is your logic coming from. Sometimes I wonder if you folks know what you are talking about.

There is no way the opposition will start off this relationship on the wrong/bad foot. The main goal is to strip the PPP of power not to bicker amongst themselves. Even a rookie would know that.
FM
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Originally posted by alena:
Common sense dictates that Ramjattan will not support a PNC speaker. he knows AFC will crumble next election if he does!!!!


wishful thinking or you don't politics...this is a simple matter

You need to move pass racial thinking...
FM
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Originally posted by raymond:
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Originally posted by alena:
Common sense dictates that Ramjattan will not support a PNC speaker. he knows AFC will crumble next election if he does!!!!


wishful thinking or you don't politics...this is a simple matter

You need to move pass racial thinking...
You just reiterated what I tried to say to Alena. Big Grin

Do these folks really think logically?
FM
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Originally posted by Nuff:
The fact that Moses is already on the AFC MP list and Debra isn't on the APNU MP list ... leads me to believe she will get the nod.

I don't think we have to read too deep between the lines. Moses already has a job, Deb doesn't.


I told you guys that debra will get the Nod, but you people keeps arguing about it.

Ramoutar is not Jagdeo, he will negotiate every piece of legislation with APNU. And when they can agree on the kind they will implement it. Og course the PPP will take credit for every input of APNU.
FM
There is no way the opposition will start off this relationship on the wrong/bad foot. The main goal is to strip the PPP of power not to bicker amongst themselves. Even a rookiie would know that.[/QUOTE]

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Who fooled u that the AFC prefers to work with the PNC instead of the Ppp. U are a big since.wo
FM
quote:
Originally posted by alena:
There is no way the opposition will start off this relationship on the wrong/bad foot. The main goal is to strip the PPP of power not to bicker amongst themselves. Even a rookiie would know that.


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Who fooled u that the AFC prefers to work with the PNC instead of the Ppp. U are a big since.wo[/QUOTE]

AFC will work with either party once it benefits most Guyanese...the idea is for policy to benefit Guyana and all the people of Guyana..this is an incredible opportunity for Guyana
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Nuff:


Do these folks really think logically?

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U are the biggest illogical racist dunce here.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by alena:
quote:
Originally posted by Nuff:


Do these folks really think logically?

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U are the biggest illogical racist dunce here.
Thanks for the compliment.

Keep on writing one liners. Big Grin
FM
quote:
Originally posted by alena:
quote:
Originally posted by Nuff:


Do these folks really think logically?

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U are the biggest illogical racist dunce here.


run out of things to say? Big Grin
FM
Simple, the opposition selects a candidate and the President is not in agreement with, he can veto.

Either send back to decide on another Speaker or disband Parilament and call a new election.

I do not think that APNU's Deborah Backer has the quality to be a speaker. I can be wrong.

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FM
quote:
Originally posted by asj:
Simple, the opposition selects a candidate and the President is not in agreement with, he can veto.

Either send back to decide on another Speaker or disband Parilament and call a new election.

I do not think that Deborah Backer has the quality to be a speaker.

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wishful thinking...btw, I did not notice any comment from you about those women beaten and stripped on the streets of Cairo...is it because they are Muslim men beating them make it okay?
FM
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Originally posted by Nuff:
quote:
Originally posted by raymond:
run out of things to say? Big Grin
Alena's response Kind of reminds you of the stuff a 2nd grader would say. Big Grin


some people think PPP got a God given right to rule Guyana Big Grin
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
I told you guys that debra will get the Nod, but you people keeps arguing about it.

Dude you are so full of it. You were pushing for Ramkarran up to yesterday. You still hold on to the hope that something MIRACULOUS happens like all the opposition parliamentarians call in sick/hungover after the festive season and the PPP cast its 32 votes and wins. Big Grin
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Nuff:
The fact that Moses is already on the AFC MP list and Debra isn't on the APNU MP list ... leads me to believe she will get the nod.

I don't think we have to read too deep between the lines. Moses already has a job, Deb doesn't.


Big Grin flag
Mitwah
quote:
Originally posted by alena:
Common sense dictates that Ramjattan will not support a PNC speaker. he knows AFC will crumble next election if he does!!!!


Common sense without any sense is non sense. You cannot tell us what Ramjattan knows.
Mitwah
quote:
Originally posted by Nuff:
The fact that Moses is already on the AFC MP list and Debra isn't on the APNU MP list ... leads me to believe she will get the nod.

I don't think we have to read too deep between the lines. Moses already has a job, Deb doesn't.
sorry to burst your bubbles,but MOSES WILL BE THE SPEAKER.APNU have to support AFC on this one if they want the AFC to give them a say in parlament.APNU have lots of work to do in parlament to help their people to have equal footing with the ppp supporters,and they can only get this done with the AFC help.so it will be hand wash hand make hand clean
FM
quote:
Originally posted by warrior:
quote:
Originally posted by Nuff:
The fact that Moses is already on the AFC MP list and Debra isn't on the APNU MP list ... leads me to believe she will get the nod.

I don't think we have to read too deep between the lines. Moses already has a job, Deb doesn't.
sorry to burst your bubbles,but MOSES WILL BE THE SPEAKER.APNU have to support AFC on this one if they want the AFC to give them a say in parlament.APNU have lots of work to do in parlament to help their people to have equal footing with the ppp supporters,and they can only get this done with the AFC help.so it will be hand wash hand make hand clean


Here you have two conflicting views.

Then you those who wants Ralph Ramkarran to join the AFC so they invent stories about him being a disgruntled member who was treated badly. Moses and Ralph want to be Leader of the PPP but lack the abilty to convince the central committee to anoint them. The better man won.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
quote:
Originally posted by warrior:
quote:
Originally posted by Nuff:
The fact that Moses is already on the AFC MP list and Debra isn't on the APNU MP list ... leads me to believe she will get the nod.

I don't think we have to read too deep between the lines. Moses already has a job, Deb doesn't.
sorry to burst your bubbles,but MOSES WILL BE THE SPEAKER.APNU have to support AFC on this one if they want the AFC to give them a say in parlament.APNU have lots of work to do in parlament to help their people to have equal footing with the ppp supporters,and they can only get this done with the AFC help.so it will be hand wash hand make hand clean


Here you have two conflicting views.

Then you those who wants Ralph Ramkarran to join the AFC so they invent stories about him being a disgruntled member who was treated badly. Moses and Ralph want to be Leader of the PPP but lack the abilty to convince the central committee to anoint them. The better man won.
man, you drunk again,you just post that the ppp do not elected but selected.i guess jagdeo is the central committee,a one antiman show
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Nuff:
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Dude you are so full of it. You were pushing for Ramkarran up to yesterday. You still hold on to the hope that something MIRACULOUS happens like all the opposition parliamentarians call in sick/hungover after the festive season and the PPP cast its 32 votes and wins. Big Grin


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there is too much disagreement within each opposition. There will not be a common vote.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by raymond:
quote:
Originally posted by asj:
Simple, the opposition selects a candidate and the President is not in agreement with, he can veto.

Either send back to decide on another Speaker or disband Parilament and call a new election.

I do not think that Deborah Backer has the quality to be a speaker.




wishful thinking...btw, I did not notice any comment from you about those women beaten and stripped on the streets of Cairo...is it because they are Muslim men beating them make it okay?


What happened, did you cut your godie yet, it is a heavey load to walk with Big Grin

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FM

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