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Study shows reservoir will allow for effective management of energy supply to lessen dry season water flow impact

 

Kaieteur News recently published an aerial photograph showing a limited flow of water streaming from the Amaila Falls which is earmarked to be the water source for the Amaila Falls Hydro Power station.

 

In August 2013, the Government of Guyana (GoG) issued a press release and a 70 page expert hydrology report prepared by Halcrow, a UK based internationally recognized engineering consultancy group. The public is invited to refer to the report located at www.privatisation.gov.gy.

 

That report clearly indicates that October is in fact one of the driest months of the year and as such, water flow will be limited. It also clearly indicated that the reservoir to be built as part of this project will be used to store water and protect against dry periods such as the one currently being experienced. The reservoir will enable the station to provide a continued source of power. The estimated energy that will be supplied has been based on various expert firms which used multiple sources for their analysis including 40 years of flow data and conclusively demonstrates that the project is entirely feasible and practical. The study clearly shows that the operation of a reservoir allows the supply of energy to be managed to effectively minimize the impact of the dry season water flows.

 

Using the figures in the Halcrow report (pg. 44), the following energy levels are expected from the base line water flows.  Using GPL’s average 2012 generation costs of US19 cents, the equivalent annual savings in US$ are estimated at:

 

Amaila Site Annual Energy Yield (GWH)

GPL Avg. Costs for Generation (US cents)

Equivalent Annual Value in US$

Minimum

884

19

167,960,000

Average

1,141

19

216,790,000

Maximum

1,343

19

255,170,000

 

Regardless of the impact of the dry season water flows, based on the hydrology report, the projected costs of the project and GPL’s generation costs, Amaila will allow an annual net savings of approximately US$100 M. At the end of the 20 year concession period, Guyana will own Amaila, a project that can last 75 to 100 years, free.  Additionally, Amaila will allow Guyana to eliminate approximately 90% of its greenhouse gas emissions from electricity generation.

 

Kaieteur News deliberately ignored any reference to the August press release and Halcrow report that were covered in various papers, including their own. One can only conclude that the objective of Kaieteur News is to avoid presenting information in a fair, objective and balanced manner and prefer instead, to distort and misrepresent for their personal objectives. (Privatisation Unit)

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It comes to a point where sometimes you decide you just can’t take it anymore. We wonder when Guyanese will reach this point about the lies and misinformation being peddled about the Amaila Falls Hydro Electric Project (AFHEP). Especially by the Kaieteur News. With a project of that magnitude, no Guyanese would disagree that we have to be careful of possible skulduggery on funds to be spent. Hey…when you’re dealing with human beings; that has to be your default setting.

But if you’re ever to accomplish anything, there’s got to be some balance between prudence and persecution. If Guyana is ever going to get cheaper electricity to attract manufacturing companies here and take us out of the plastic bucket economy, we’ve got to get real. If anyone needed to be convinced that the AFHEP is being persecuted rather than probed, they only need to look at the lurid headlines the Kaieteur’s been running about the Amaila river running dry.

 

Since when can this be news rather than the β€œcuss down”, β€œtalk name” and gyaaf Dem Boys have over cheap liquor at the local rum shop? Every single news item about AFHEP had mentioned the extensive area that would be flooded to act as a reservoir to deliver a steady flow in and out rainy seasons. In case Dem Boys couldn’t read (whether from a deficient childhood education or too much cheap liquor), they could’ve looked at the β€œartist’s impression” of the facility they carried with every concoction they brewed.

 

Every hydroelectric project in the world has to cater for reduced water flow from its source river…and they do this by creating reservoirs just as AFHEP would do. And it was publicly mentioned on so many occasions that much of the present capacity of the Guyana Power and Light (GPL) would remain in place to act as backup to also cater for periods of reduced generation or supply, for one reason or another.

 

Did Dem Boys think the government would throw away the GPL generators as the People’s National Congress (PNC) and Hamilton Green did with the steel rails from the railways they decommissioned?

 

We were rather surprised that Leader of the Opposition David Granger would pander to this kind of reckless gossip-mongering. Surely he knows that the hydro project of the founder leader Forbes Burnham back in the 1970s also included a reservoir to cater for reduced water flow.

 

This is no way to destroy a project that can lead to power independence.

FM

The Amaila project should have been located at Tumatumari

 

Posted By Staff Writer On October 14, 2013 @ 5:04 am In Letters | 

 

Dear Editor,

 

It is with no surprise that I read in the Kaieteur News of 12th October 2013 that the water flow of the Amaila Falls is almost nonexistent and is therefore probably not a reliable place to put a hydroelectric dam.

I say this since that most disturbing photo on the front page of the Kaieteur News of 12th October was not unexpected, since it substantiates the observations made in a letter by one delgado5 [name and address given] dated August 8th 2013 and published in Kaieteur News captioned β€œWhat the public should know about the Amaila project”. Delgado5 is clearly a qualified engineer who is very knowledgeable about what is planned for Amaila and went to some pains to point out that the design of the Amaila hydro project visualized a catchment of only 90 sq kilometers, other studies inform us that this catchment is too small given the expected output of Amaila, and its functioning would be seriously compromised after a routine period of only 26 days if no rain fell! Why is it that the public is only now awakening to these facts through the excellent coverage of the matter with that one photograph?

 

I don’t know who Delgado5 is but his letter was a gold mine of information. In his letter Delgado5 pointed out that it is a mystery to him that our hydro project is located at Amaila when it should in fact be located at Tumatumari. He tells us this β€œThe rivers, Kuribrong and Amaila, continue beyond the hydro site to about fifty miles until they reach the foot of the Ayanganna mountain where they were born. Both rivers beyond the site have no creeks or swamps emptying into them. They depend entirely on the natural springs at the base of Raleigh and Ayanganna mountains as sources of water in the absence of rainfall.

 

The reservoirs would contain 30 days of reserved water. If there is no rain in the catchment area for a little over one month, electricity could be produced for about 26 days on reserved water. Should the dry weather continue beyond this time, the reservoir becomes dried out and the turbines starve”. This makes the observations of Minister Benn nonsense, when he says that when there is a catchment this situation of no water would not be a cause for concern.

 

Delgado5 also told us that β€œThe project is located only about 52 miles from where the two rivers were born at the foot of the Ayanganna Mountain, and so only 9% of all the water contained in the whole of the Kuribrong River would be dispensable to it. The bulk of the water of the Kuribrong would run off to merge with the waters of the full length of the Potaro River to form real rugged rapids at Tumatumari, where indeed the project should have happened in the first place.” Delgado 5 was telling us that this hydro project should be better located at Tumatumari and not Amaila. He also informed us that β€œWeight for weight, the civil works when completed on the Amaila Hydro Project would be equal to nearly half the size of the engineering works done on the Guri Hydro Dam in Venezuela. The Guri Hydro Dam, the third largest in the world, produces 10,500MW from 20 large Frances turbines with just about double the size of civil works to be done at Amaila. The Amaila would produce only 100MW from four 25MW Frances mini-turbines. Much too low compared to the size of civil works to be done!”

Editor, Delgado5 is saying that we will be constructing a dam which entails civil engineering works which will be nearly 50% of what the Guri Dam took to construct, but will only produce less than 1 percent of the power Guri does!!

 

Delgado5 continues β€œThe power weight ratio of the Amaila project is daunting, since the annual tariff paid by GPL for the capacity provided by the project increases as the capital cost increases with dam length and dam height/reserve size and installed turbine capacity. The contractor needs to be cautious, because the general idea of hydro dam installations is to locate a site where there is less demand for too big and costly civil works and an abundance of water.

The power/weight ratio must always be 80% to 90% ratings so that in the end the general public could enjoy cheap and reliable electricity. The high cost of electricity would also chase away investors. The engineering world today tends to produce products much smaller but with more performance and capacity. It’s a trend.

The question is why the only possible site for a hydro dam installation in the Potaro area has been more than once neglected – the Tumatumari Falls.”

About Tumatumari, Delgado5 tells us this.  British Consolidated gold mining company installed two small Kaplan turbines at the Tumatumari Falls. The facility produced more than enough to power the company’s two giant bucket dredges plus provided energy for the camp sites at Tumatumari and Konawaruk, nine miles away. With only servicing of those two turbines, folks at Mahdia, just 9 miles away could have enjoyed 24-hour electricity supply. Instead, two fuel-guzzling diesels were installed to provide electricity only at nights. A reverse process indeed.

It would be very inaccurate to say that the Tumatumari Falls was not chosen for the project because of fear of flooding the area. The Tumatumari Falls has a catchment area of nearly 680 square miles, compared to the meagre 90 square miles of the Amaila Falls. It is sufficient to erect a 40-feet high dam to maintain a reservoir of only 35 feet deep.

All the water flow of the entire length of the Amaila River plus the water flow of the entire length of the Potaro River merge into one powerful flow before reaching the Tumatumari Falls. A regular and steady supply of water is guaranteed to maintain the level of the reservoir even through the dry period. So there is no necessity to have an oversized reservoir.”

I am forced to ask the question again, can’t the PPP get anything right?

Delgado 5 tells us that a hydro project at Tumatumari would be far more economical to build and operate with a much larger catchment fed by more reliable sources of water and would therefore be more effective and can be built for less than the price of Amaila. And it will disturb no Amerindian settlements.

 

We need the Brazilians, I have been saying it for years. They want to build a hydroelectric project at Turtruba for Manaus and Guyana including aluminium smelting. If they were in partnership with us the Venezuelans will have to crawl back into the wood work from whence they came. If we built the road to Brazil, the deep water harbour and the hydropower in the Essequibo, Venezuela not would be able to say a word.

 

Yours faithfully, 


Tony Vieira

FM

Tumatumari Hydro electric plant on the cards

April 25, 2013, By Filed Under News, Source

 

The Hydro plant at Tumatumari is very much on the cards. Managing Director of Dynamic Engineering Mr.Lloyd Rose, said last week that arrangements are being finalized for the commencement of the project in the second half of this year.


He promised to release more details on the arrangements for the construction of the hydroelectric facility on his return from Honduras, but stressed,”Dynamic Engineering is in the final stages of preparation for the reconstruction of the hydro at Tumatumari. The hydro is definitely coming up.”

 

The rapids at Tumatumari and remains of the historic Tumatumari Hydro plant which supplied electricity from the late 1950s to the 1980s.

 

Mr. Rose said that Mahdia will be one of the beneficiaries of electricity provided by the reconstructed hydroelectric facility.


Mark Crawford, Region Eight Chairman, recently stated that the provision of electricity via the Tumatumari hydro plant is the most feasible solution for Mahdia and neighbouring communities.


He made the comment in relation to rationing of electricity by Mahdia Power and Light Company which many residents were finding to be extremely inconveniencing.


Crawford said that with hydro power from Tumatumari, some expected benefits are reduced electricity costs, reduced greenhouse gases (emission), saved foreign exchange on over 180 barrels of fuel monthly that is needed for the large generator at the Mahdia power company, and a more reliable supply of electricity.


β€œI believe that no effort should be spared by the government to assist the developers of the Tumatumari hydroelectricity since it will benefit the interior tremendously,” he said.


The hydro power plant at Tumatumari was constructed utilizing the rapids of the Potaro River near Tumatumari in the late 1950s by the British Guiana Consolidated Gold Fields and the Potaro Electric Company.


The plant was used to provide electricity for the gold mining operations of that company. The Tumatumari hydro plant provided electricity up to as late as the 1980s but was then allowed to fall into disrepair.


Dynamic Engineering recently took up the challenge to reconstruct the plant and to provide electricity for improved quality of life and economic and developmental activities in the Siparuni Sub-Region of Region Eight.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

Tumatumari Hydro electric plant on the cards

April 25, 2013, By Filed Under News, Source

 

The Hydro plant at Tumatumari is very much on the cards. Managing Director of Dynamic Engineering Mr.Lloyd Rose, said last week that arrangements are being finalized for the commencement of the project in the second half of this year.


He promised to release more details on the arrangements for the construction of the hydroelectric facility on his return from Honduras, but stressed,”Dynamic Engineering is in the final stages of preparation for the reconstruction of the hydro at Tumatumari. The hydro is definitely coming up.”

 

The rapids at Tumatumari and remains of the historic Tumatumari Hydro plant which supplied electricity from the late 1950s to the 1980s.

 

Mr. Rose said that Mahdia will be one of the beneficiaries of electricity provided by the reconstructed hydroelectric facility.


Mark Crawford, Region Eight Chairman, recently stated that the provision of electricity via the Tumatumari hydro plant is the most feasible solution for Mahdia and neighbouring communities.


He made the comment in relation to rationing of electricity by Mahdia Power and Light Company which many residents were finding to be extremely inconveniencing.


Crawford said that with hydro power from Tumatumari, some expected benefits are reduced electricity costs, reduced greenhouse gases (emission), saved foreign exchange on over 180 barrels of fuel monthly that is needed for the large generator at the Mahdia power company, and a more reliable supply of electricity.


β€œI believe that no effort should be spared by the government to assist the developers of the Tumatumari hydroelectricity since it will benefit the interior tremendously,” he said.


The hydro power plant at Tumatumari was constructed utilizing the rapids of the Potaro River near Tumatumari in the late 1950s by the British Guiana Consolidated Gold Fields and the Potaro Electric Company.


The plant was used to provide electricity for the gold mining operations of that company. The Tumatumari hydro plant provided electricity up to as late as the 1980s but was then allowed to fall into disrepair.


Dynamic Engineering recently took up the challenge to reconstruct the plant and to provide electricity for improved quality of life and economic and developmental activities in the Siparuni Sub-Region of Region Eight.

 

Mr Demerara_Guy that does that prove it can only supply Region 8. You were Mr Burnham's "specialist" engineer on that original attempt. Why did it fail? 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Mr Demerara_Guy that does that prove it can only supply Region 8.

Know the pertinent facts of the issues.

 

It is your choice to prove/show that re-development of the Tumatumari hydroelectric project can serve Guyana's needs.

 

Those who know the issues are aware that re-development of the Tumatumari project will be for local use.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Mr Demerara_Guy that does that prove it can only supply Region 8.

Know the pertinent facts of the issues.

 

It is your choice to prove/show that re-development of the Tumatumari hydroelectric project can serve Guyana's needs.

 

Those who know the issues are aware that re-development of the Tumatumari project will be for local use.

Mr DG how many MW will Tumatumari generate?

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Mr Demerara_Guy that does that prove it can only supply Region 8.

Know the pertinent facts of the issues.

 

It is your choice to prove/show that re-development of the Tumatumari hydroelectric project can serve Guyana's needs.

 

Those who know the issues are aware that re-development of the Tumatumari project will be for local use.

Mr DG how many MW will Tumatumari generate?

It is an extremely important quality for a person to know know facts and issues.

 

You have a penchant to ask questions on almost everything, thus exhibiting the qualities of knowing extremely little of the issues.

FM

Who is more credible?  Halcrow, a UK based internationally recognized engineering consultancy group who did a scientific study or Delgado5 a blogger who Tony the PNC crook Vieira claimed is an engineer. 

 

This is the type of bottom house debate that d2 loves, however he has credibility since it is alleged that he has a pee pee problem and intense knowledge of "slow flow" ahahaha

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Who is more credible?  Halcrow, a UK based internationally recognized engineering consultancy group who did a scientific study or Delgado5 a blogger who Tony the PNC crook Vieira claimed is an engineer. 

 

This is the type of bottom house debate that d2 loves, however he has credibility since it is alleged that he has a pee pee problem and intense knowledge of "slow flow" ahahaha

Mr liar. Veria is no friend of mine and I know of no blogger called Delgado. I know little of the feasibility of the Tumatumari  region but the fact it exists in a steeper river valley with possibility for many times more the water retention in a reservoir than Amalia is worth looking at.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Mr Demerara_Guy that does that prove it can only supply Region 8.

Know the pertinent facts of the issues.

 

It is your choice to prove/show that re-development of the Tumatumari hydroelectric project can serve Guyana's needs.

 

Those who know the issues are aware that re-development of the Tumatumari project will be for local use.

Mr DG how many MW will Tumatumari generate?

It is an extremely important quality for a person to know know facts and issues.

 

You have a penchant to ask questions on almost everything, thus exhibiting the qualities of knowing extremely little of the issues.

 

Mr DG my teach did say I like to ask questions. I don't know the issues pertaining Tumatumari. How many MWs will Tumatumari produce? Thank you Sir. 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Mr Demerara_Guy that does that prove it can only supply Region 8.

Know the pertinent facts of the issues.

 

It is your choice to prove/show that re-development of the Tumatumari hydroelectric project can serve Guyana's needs.

 

Those who know the issues are aware that re-development of the Tumatumari project will be for local use.

Mr DG how many MW will Tumatumari generate?

It is an extremely important quality for a person to know know facts and issues.

 

You have a penchant to ask questions on almost everything, thus exhibiting the qualities of knowing extremely little of the issues.

Mr DG my teach did say I like to ask questions. I don't know the issues pertaining Tumatumari. How many MWs will Tumatumari produce? Thank you Sir. 

An informed individual asks a few pertinent questions.

 

An uninformed person, posing as an intellectual, asks an abundance of questions.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Mr Demerara_Guy that does that prove it can only supply Region 8.

Know the pertinent facts of the issues.

 

It is your choice to prove/show that re-development of the Tumatumari hydroelectric project can serve Guyana's needs.

 

Those who know the issues are aware that re-development of the Tumatumari project will be for local use.

Mr DG how many MW will Tumatumari generate?

It is an extremely important quality for a person to know know facts and issues.

 

You have a penchant to ask questions on almost everything, thus exhibiting the qualities of knowing extremely little of the issues.

Mr DG my teach did say I like to ask questions. I don't know the issues pertaining Tumatumari. How many MWs will Tumatumari produce? Thank you Sir. 

An informed individual asks a few pertinent questions.

 

An uninformed person, posing as an intellectual, asks an abundance of questions.

 

Sorry Sir. My teacher told me not to shy away from asking questions. I concede I'm uninformed. Please answer whether Tumatumari produces relative to Amaila? Thank you Sir.

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

An informed individual asks a few pertinent questions.

 

An uninformed person, posing as an intellectual, asks an abundance of questions.

Sorry Sir. My teacher told me not to shy away from asking questions. I concede I'm uninformed. Please answer whether Tumatumari produces relative to Amaila? Thank you Sir.

Your choice to continue close interactions with your teacher, seek information independently, or remain unaware of issues.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

An informed individual asks a few pertinent questions.

 

An uninformed person, posing as an intellectual, asks an abundance of questions.

Sorry Sir. My teacher told me not to shy away from asking questions. I concede I'm uninformed. Please answer whether Tumatumari produces relative to Amaila? Thank you Sir.

Your choice to continue close interactions with your teacher, seek information independently, or remain unaware of issues.

Ah STFU and answer the question. Are you that demented?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Mr Demerara_Guy that does that prove it can only supply Region 8.

Know the pertinent facts of the issues.

 

It is your choice to prove/show that re-development of the Tumatumari hydroelectric project can serve Guyana's needs.

 

Those who know the issues are aware that re-development of the Tumatumari project will be for local use.

Mr DG how many MW will Tumatumari generate?

It is an extremely important quality for a person to know know facts and issues.

 

You have a penchant to ask questions on almost everything, thus exhibiting the qualities of knowing extremely little of the issues.

Mr DG my teach did say I like to ask questions. I don't know the issues pertaining Tumatumari. How many MWs will Tumatumari produce? Thank you Sir. 

An informed individual asks a few pertinent questions.

 

An uninformed person, posing as an intellectual, asks an abundance of questions.

Did not the oracle at Delphi declared Socrates to be the wisest man? Is that not borne out from the fact that we honor his insight by teaching all our freshman the Apology, Crito, Phaedo etc? in philosophy 101? What was his method again? ...the maeutic method his strategy...a birthing strategy into wisdom? What is he known for not incessant questioning?

 

As Mr T said, Pity the fool....more the old fool!

FM

Here's the conclusion from a presentation by Veecock. 

MR. MAURICE VEECOCK
SENIOR LECTURER, DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL ENGINEERING
FACULTY OF TECHNOLOGY

CONCLUSION
I will conclude with the following points:
1. Develop Amaila to provide at-site power (100–150)
MW.
2.Construct a dam upstream of the Kaieteur Falls and
divert the flow of the Potaro River into the Amaila
reservoir through a saddle between the two watersheds
so as to supplement the low flow conditions.
3.Release water over the Kaieteur falls so as to preserve
its beauty.

4.Construct the Tumatumari Power station.

5.Investigate and construct if feasible the Chi-Chi diversion

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Here's the conclusion from a presentation by Veecock. 

MR. MAURICE VEECOCK, SENIOR LECTURER, DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL ENGINEERING FACULTY OF TECHNOLOGY

 

CONCLUSION

 

I will conclude with the following points:

 

1. Develop Amaila to provide at-site power (100–150) MW.

 

2. Construct a dam upstream of the Kaieteur Falls and divert the flow of the Potaro River into the Amaila reservoir through a saddle between the two watersheds so as to supplement the low flow conditions.


3. Release water over the Kaieteur falls so as to preserve its beauty.

 

4. Construct the Tumatumari Power station.

 

5. Investigate and construct if feasible the Chi-Chi diversion

Maurice Veecock presented some options for hydroelectric power developments in Guyana.

 

After assessing the the various completed studies; copies and reports for about 70 sites are in the Office of the Prime Minister; the approach taken is to develop the Amaila Hydroelectric power proposal.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Here's the conclusion from a presentation by Veecock. 

MR. MAURICE VEECOCK, SENIOR LECTURER, DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL ENGINEERING FACULTY OF TECHNOLOGY

 

CONCLUSION

 

I will conclude with the following points:

 

1. Develop Amaila to provide at-site power (100–150) MW.

 

2. Construct a dam upstream of the Kaieteur Falls and divert the flow of the Potaro River into the Amaila reservoir through a saddle between the two watersheds so as to supplement the low flow conditions.


3. Release water over the Kaieteur falls so as to preserve its beauty.

 

4. Construct the Tumatumari Power station.

 

5. Investigate and construct if feasible the Chi-Chi diversion

Maurice Veecock presented some options for hydroelectric power developments in Guyana.

 

After assessing the the various completed studies; copies and reports for about 70 sites are in the Office of the Prime Minister; the approach taken is to develop the Amaila Hydroelectric power proposal.

This is what I thought, however note that the afc/pnc contingent have suddenly embraced a blogger called delgado5, as per Tony Vieira.  Suddenly Tumutamari is more feasible than Amelia. These folks led by d2 are really bottom fishers, they jump at any opportunity to deny the nation progress. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Here's the conclusion from a presentation by Veecock. 

MR. MAURICE VEECOCK, SENIOR LECTURER, DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL ENGINEERING FACULTY OF TECHNOLOGY

 

CONCLUSION

 

I will conclude with the following points:

 

1. Develop Amaila to provide at-site power (100–150) MW.

 

2. Construct a dam upstream of the Kaieteur Falls and divert the flow of the Potaro River into the Amaila reservoir through a saddle between the two watersheds so as to supplement the low flow conditions.


3. Release water over the Kaieteur falls so as to preserve its beauty.

 

4. Construct the Tumatumari Power station.

 

5. Investigate and construct if feasible the Chi-Chi diversion

Maurice Veecock presented some options for hydroelectric power developments in Guyana.

 

After assessing the the various completed studies; copies and reports for about 70 sites are in the Office of the Prime Minister; the approach taken is to develop the Amaila Hydroelectric power proposal.

This is what I thought, however note that the afc/pnc contingent have suddenly embraced a blogger called delgado5, as per Tony Vieira.

 

Suddenly Tumutamari is more feasible than Amelia.

 

These folks led by d2 are really bottom fishers, they jump at any opportunity to deny the nation progress. 

Tumatumari hydroelectric project can be upgraded to provide electricity for the local area and its redevelopment on the the overall needs of Guyana.

 

My reports on this and other projects are among the numerous ones in the office of the Prime Minister.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Here's the conclusion from a presentation by Veecock. 

MR. MAURICE VEECOCK, SENIOR LECTURER, DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL ENGINEERING FACULTY OF TECHNOLOGY

 

CONCLUSION

 

I will conclude with the following points:

 

1. Develop Amaila to provide at-site power (100–150) MW.

 

2. Construct a dam upstream of the Kaieteur Falls and divert the flow of the Potaro River into the Amaila reservoir through a saddle between the two watersheds so as to supplement the low flow conditions.


3. Release water over the Kaieteur falls so as to preserve its beauty.

 

4. Construct the Tumatumari Power station.

 

5. Investigate and construct if feasible the Chi-Chi diversion

Maurice Veecock presented some options for hydroelectric power developments in Guyana.

 

After assessing the the various completed studies; copies and reports for about 70 sites are in the Office of the Prime Minister; the approach taken is to develop the Amaila Hydroelectric power proposal.

This is what I thought, however note that the afc/pnc contingent have suddenly embraced a blogger called delgado5, as per Tony Vieira.  Suddenly Tumutamari is more feasible than Amelia. These folks led by d2 are really bottom fishers, they jump at any opportunity to deny the nation progress. 

One does not have to reach deep to find sources of complaints for the folks in office. Their corrupt practices is their cream so it is at the top.  Where is it said that there is a preference of one location over the other. The point is one can see from a relief map that a reservoir will be larger in the Tunmutamari region. And it is self evident it never dries out. That alone suggests the watershed receives more run off there. I do not know anything of the two areas but we should know of Amalia since they almost had  a plant there. That we do not know again reflects on the PPP secret plans for everything

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Here's the conclusion from a presentation by Veecock. 

MR. MAURICE VEECOCK, SENIOR LECTURER, DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL ENGINEERING FACULTY OF TECHNOLOGY

 

CONCLUSION

 

I will conclude with the following points:

 

1. Develop Amaila to provide at-site power (100–150) MW.

 

2. Construct a dam upstream of the Kaieteur Falls and divert the flow of the Potaro River into the Amaila reservoir through a saddle between the two watersheds so as to supplement the low flow conditions.


3. Release water over the Kaieteur falls so as to preserve its beauty.

 

4. Construct the Tumatumari Power station.

 

5. Investigate and construct if feasible the Chi-Chi diversion

Maurice Veecock presented some options for hydroelectric power developments in Guyana.

 

After assessing the the various completed studies; copies and reports for about 70 sites are in the Office of the Prime Minister; the approach taken is to develop the Amaila Hydroelectric power proposal.

This is what I thought, however note that the afc/pnc contingent have suddenly embraced a blogger called delgado5, as per Tony Vieira.  Suddenly Tumutamari is more feasible than Amelia. These folks led by d2 are really bottom fishers, they jump at any opportunity to deny the nation progress. 

One does not have to reach deep to find sources of complaints for the folks in office. Their corrupt practices is their cream so it is at the top.  Where is it said that there is a preference of one location over the other. The point is one can see from a relief map that a reservoir will be larger in the Tunmutamari region. And it is self evident it never dries out. That alone suggests the watershed receives more run off there. I do not know anything of the two areas but we should know of Amalia since they almost had  a plant there. That we do not know again reflects on the PPP secret plans for everything

And you and delgado5 know this from examining a relief map while top engineering firms in the world and qualified engineers show Amelia as the more feasible and longer term solution. Now you will tell us you are an engineer with experience in hydro. I rest my case. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Here's the conclusion from a presentation by Veecock. 

MR. MAURICE VEECOCK, SENIOR LECTURER, DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL ENGINEERING FACULTY OF TECHNOLOGY

 

CONCLUSION

 

I will conclude with the following points:

 

1. Develop Amaila to provide at-site power (100–150) MW.

 

2. Construct a dam upstream of the Kaieteur Falls and divert the flow of the Potaro River into the Amaila reservoir through a saddle between the two watersheds so as to supplement the low flow conditions.


3. Release water over the Kaieteur falls so as to preserve its beauty.

 

4. Construct the Tumatumari Power station.

 

5. Investigate and construct if feasible the Chi-Chi diversion

Maurice Veecock presented some options for hydroelectric power developments in Guyana.

 

After assessing the the various completed studies; copies and reports for about 70 sites are in the Office of the Prime Minister; the approach taken is to develop the Amaila Hydroelectric power proposal.

This is what I thought, however note that the afc/pnc contingent have suddenly embraced a blogger called delgado5, as per Tony Vieira.  Suddenly Tumutamari is more feasible than Amelia. These folks led by d2 are really bottom fishers, they jump at any opportunity to deny the nation progress. 

One does not have to reach deep to find sources of complaints for the folks in office. Their corrupt practices is their cream so it is at the top.  Where is it said that there is a preference of one location over the other. The point is one can see from a relief map that a reservoir will be larger in the Tunmutamari region. And it is self evident it never dries out. That alone suggests the watershed receives more run off there. I do not know anything of the two areas but we should know of Amalia since they almost had  a plant there. That we do not know again reflects on the PPP secret plans for everything

And you and delgado5 know this from examining a relief map while top engineering firms in the world and qualified engineers show Amelia as the more feasible and longer term solution. Now you will tell us you are an engineer with experience in hydro. I rest my case. 

What did the "top" engineering firm know? Let us know also. That is the point. There is always mention of who knows what but no one has ever posted the critical information necessary for even dotish you to write the shit you write.. You have no case. BTW Sith never built a plant on their own.

 

One does not need to be a practicing engineer to comment on a project. I do know I have more of a grounding in the matter than you so if that is a necessary criteria to comment then you ought to sit down. You already demonstrated you know little of math.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

The production of Tumatumari hydroelectric project is much less than 2mw because of the age and neglect of the works, variations of flows, the gaps in the structures and other factors.

mr hydro engineer, the "Tumatumari hydroelectric project" you're making such an effort pouring bucketfulls of scorn upon is not the one discussed in Tony Vieira's letter

 

when yuh arms get weary clubbing this pathetic straw man . . . come on down

 

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

The production of Tumatumari hydroelectric project is much less than 2mw because of the age and neglect of the works, variations of flows, the gaps in the structures and other factors.

mr hydro engineer, the "Tumatumari hydroelectric project" you're making such an effort pouring bucketfulls of scorn upon is not the one discussed in Tony Vieira's letter

You are absolutely "correct" ... he was referring to the Tumatumari hydroelectric project built at Kakaburri creek.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by JB:
Mr Demerara_Guy that does that prove it can only supply Region 8.

Know the pertinent facts of the issues.

 

It is your choice to prove/show that re-development of the Tumatumari hydroelectric project can serve Guyana's needs.

 

Those who know the issues are aware that re-development of the Tumatumari project will be for local use.

While De Amaila Hydro_Seed

that now Dry.....

will supply the rest of Guyana

plus overseas

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

The production of Tumatumari hydroelectric project is much less than 2mw because of the age and neglect of the works, variations of flows, the gaps in the structures and other factors.

mr hydro engineer, the "Tumatumari hydroelectric project" you're making such an effort pouring bucketfulls of scorn upon is not the one discussed in Tony Vieira's letter

 

when yuh arms get weary clubbing this pathetic straw man . . . come on down

You are absolutely "correct" ... he was referring to the Tumatumari hydroelectric project built at Kakaburri creek.

diversionary nonsense from a weak minded, ethically challenged low performer

 

pay attention fool . . . THIS is the [envisioned] "Tumatumari hydroelectric project" Vieira/Delgado5 is talking about:

 

". . . It [Tumatamaturi catchment area] is sufficient to erect a 40-feet high dam to maintain a reservoir of only 35 feet deep.

All the water flow of the entire length of the Amaila River plus the water flow of the entire length of the Potaro River merge into one powerful flow before reaching the Tumatumari Falls. A regular and steady supply of water is guaranteed to maintain the level of the reservoir even through the dry period. So there is no necessity to have an oversized reservoir.”

 

if u think they are talking about 2MW, then u are a bigger jackass than even your most stubborn detractors here could ever imagine

 

like i said . . . strawmen are easy

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by redux:
like i said . . . strawmen are easy

Apt description of yourself.

 

If capable, read and understand carefully my statements.

ummmmm . . . it would forestall further erosion of your self esteem if you look up and understand what "strawman" means here before u bray again

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by redux:
like i said . . . strawmen are easy

Apt description of yourself.

 

If capable, read and understand carefully my statements.

ummmmm . . . it would forestall further erosion of your self esteem if you look up and understand what "strawman" means here before u bray again

Yabba dabba dabba doooooooooooooooo

 

You are permanently confined in the zoo.

FM

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