Taiwan would have flooded Guyana with umbrellas, Raincoats, and boots, bicycles, and pencils, and paper products.

@Ramakant-P posted:

Taiwan would have flooded Guyana with umbrellas, Raincoats, and boots, bicycles, and pencils, and paper products.

Is that bad or good for Guyanese?

I have visited both China and Taiwan. Taiwan people are much more friendlier. Taiwan is also cleaner than China. Taiwan is developed and growing. Most young people speak English and they are happy and willing to help visitors.

Guyana can learn a few things about Urban Development, Agriculture, manufacturing of Hand Bags, shoes, clothing, jewelry etc. from Taiwanese and how to grow the economy.

@Mitwah posted:

I have visited both China and Taiwan. Taiwan people are much more friendlier. Taiwan is also cleaner than China. Taiwan is developed and growing. Most young people speak English and they are happy and willing to help visitors.

Guyana can learn a few things about Urban Development, Agriculture, manufacturing of Hand Bags, shoes, clothing, jewelry etc. from Taiwanese and how to grow the economy.

And their foreign citizens can run for their parliament. Also, they manufacture many highly precisioned parts for aerospace, automotive and solar products.

Dey know stuff and nice ppl, I build products for a Phd guy from there which he holds the patents

@Mitwah posted:

Is that bad or good for Guyanese?

It would have been good for the Guyanese people because the manufacturing of these items and more, would have created a lot of jobs.  They are all in demand.

@Mitwah posted:

I have visited both China and Taiwan. Taiwan people are much more friendlier. Taiwan is also cleaner than China. Taiwan is developed and growing. Most young people speak English and they are happy and willing to help visitors.

Guyana can learn a few things about Urban Development, Agriculture, manufacturing of Hand Bags, shoes, clothing, jewelry etc. from Taiwanese and how to grow the economy.

For once we agreed on something.

CNOOC  have shares in Guyana Oil.

https://cnoocinternational.com...ions/americas/guyana

Guyana was seen as a base for Taiwan and China doesn't like that. Bad move by Guyana.  

@lil boy posted:

Guyana was seen as a base for Taiwan and China doesn't like that. Bad move by Guyana.  

I believed that Guyana owes china a lot, but I don't think that they should have backed off from making a deal which would have benifited Guyana.

Lots of countries have diplomatic relations with both countries.

Doing any deal with China is doing a deal with the devil. China cares for itself and not the countries they inhabit.

Only fifteen countries, including the Vatican , have diplomatic relations with Taiwan.  Most of these are small and some you may not have even heard about.  Whether you like it or not China is a superpower to be reckoned with. 

@cain posted:

Doing any deal with China is doing a deal with the devil. China cares for itself and not the countries they inhabit.

Well, I do find myself agreeing with.the outcast (by God, no less) cain! Senility must be creeping in! Uh, careful, cain!

If China claims Taiwan as its own territory with no right to state-to-state ties, then why doesn't China shut them up? Invade! NOW! Whatcha waytin fer? China wants access to the oil, with no interfering advice from Taiwan about China's ulterior aims! The US is watching China's moves on its South American relationships! I'm watching everybaddie!

@lil boy posted:

Guyana was seen as a base for Taiwan and China doesn't like that. Bad move by Guyana.  

Bad move indeed, Guyana! Since when is Guyana a dependency of China that it has to respect China's tantrums?

@Totaram posted:

Only fifteen countries, including the Vatican , have diplomatic relations with Taiwan.  Most of these are small and some you may not have even heard about.  Whether you like it or not China is a superpower to be reckoned with.

Superpower, huh? Must be the batsh*t effect we have to worry about!

@Ramakant-P posted:

It would have been good for the Guyanese people because the manufacturing of these items and more, would have created a lot of jobs.  They are all in demand.

Uh, why would Taiwan outsource those manufactures to Guyana? Cheaper labour, huh? Sweatshops anyone?

President Ali, your government should reconsider your denial of Taiwan's wish for an office in Guyana! China is China's friend, not Guyana's! Guyana needs Taiwan as an advisor on China. Only then will you be able to have all the info for your decisions!

Any government with spunk will have Taiwan in Guyana, as well as China. Don't let China call the shots. If they don't like it they can leave.  

@lil boy posted:

Any government with spunk will have Taiwan in Guyana, as well as China. Don't let China call the shots. If they don't like it they can leave.  

Guess there are only 15 countries, including the Vatican, with spunk.  Fact is Guyana capitulated because it needs China more than China needs it. Among other things, CNOOC owns 25% of the Stabroek Block.

@Totaram posted:

Guess there are only 15 countries, including the Vatican, with spunk.  Fact is Guyana capitulated because it needs China more than China needs it. Among other things, CNOOC owns 25% of the Stabroek Block.

25%? So what? Guyana needs China because China owns 25% of a company? China needs suppliers of oil more than Guyana needs China! Guyana is self-sufficient in food and doesn't have to lease land in Africa to feed its people! Think of its large population and its energy needs!  Taiwan would gladly step in to replace China's other interests in Guyana, which are really continental! The US is paying great attention to China's interests on its preserve, South America, which contributes to its standard of living! Quite a bit of the money the US borrowed was spent on advanced armaments beyond anything China dreams about! Then there is the US 'Siberia' misnamed Canada! Why do you think the US is against the Keystone Pipeline? That must be in reserve when other countries' supplies are used up! War or peace, everything depends on oil! Use up the other guys' supplies, FIRST! That has always been the US strategy!