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FM
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The cash portion of the President's pension package is around G$1.1M. In addition, however, it is a tax-free pension, and includes free medical treatment for him and the dependent members of his family for the rest of his life, an unspecified number of motor vehicles to be maintained at the taxpayers’ expense, an annual vacation allowance equivalent to the cost of two first class return airfares to London, full time personal security and security at his place of residence, payment of services for an unspecified number of personal and household staff, payment for the services of an “attendant” and a gardener, payment for the services of an unspecified number of clerical staff, payment for the services of “technical” staff, payment of his water rates, payment of his electricity bill, payment of his telephone bill, and toll free road transportation in Guyana.”

There are also no provisions prohibiting former Presidents from receiving their pension if they take another job, even if it is a governmental position.

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Just the other day the AFC creeps was quoting 180k US per year. At least gmoney is a decent man to acknowledge this blatant lie. I feel sorry for him to be involved with crooks in the AFC.
FM
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
Just the other day the AFC creeps was quoting 180k US per year. At least gmoney is a decent man to acknowledge this blatant lie. I feel sorry for him to be involved with crooks in the AFC.
BGurd_See, those things listed do not have caps. To bring greater clarity to the issue, the President needs to inform the public on what his intended staff will be and at what cost, and how many and what types of vehicles he would like. He further needs to clarify to which buildings, whether his mansion (that includes a swimming pool) and office/s, he will apply the free telephone and electricity services to. Importantly too, he needs to clarify who the family and dependants that are entitled to free medical treatment are, since the terms do not specify immediate family, but simply states family, which in Guyana can literally mean anyone. We need to know too if this medical treatment means overseas treatment as well. This is the only way the estimated $3M per month can be refuted.
FM
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
Just the other day the AFC creeps was quoting 180k US per year. At least gmoney is a decent man to acknowledge this blatant lie. I feel sorry for him to be involved with crooks in the AFC.
BGurd_See, those things listed do not have caps. To bring greater clarity to the issue, the President needs to inform the public on what his intended staff will be and at what cost, and how many and what types of vehicles he would like. He further needs to clarify to which buildings, whether his mansion (that includes a swimming pool) and office/s, he will apply the free telephone and electricity services to. Importantly too, he needs to clarify who the family and dependants that are entitled to free medical treatment are, since the terms do not specify immediate family, but simply states family, which in Guyana can literally mean anyone. We need to know too if this medical treatment means overseas treatment as well. This is the only way the estimated $3M per month can be refuted.
i dont know what you guys talking about,their is no benfit in jail,but bread in the moning panman
W
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Originally posted by warrior:
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
Just the other day the AFC creeps was quoting 180k US per year. At least gmoney is a decent man to acknowledge this blatant lie. I feel sorry for him to be involved with crooks in the AFC.
BGurd_See, those things listed do not have caps. To bring greater clarity to the issue, the President needs to inform the public on what his intended staff will be and at what cost, and how many and what types of vehicles he would like. He further needs to clarify to which buildings, whether his mansion (that includes a swimming pool) and office/s, he will apply the free telephone and electricity services to. Importantly too, he needs to clarify who the family and dependants that are entitled to free medical treatment are, since the terms do not specify immediate family, but simply states family, which in Guyana can literally mean anyone. We need to know too if this medical treatment means overseas treatment as well. This is the only way the estimated $3M per month can be refuted.
i dont know what you guys talking about,their is no benfit in jail,but bread in the moning panman

Warrior, yuh fuggetin' de salami at nite. Big Grin
FM
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Originally posted by squingy:
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Originally posted by warrior:
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
Just the other day the AFC creeps was quoting 180k US per year. At least gmoney is a decent man to acknowledge this blatant lie. I feel sorry for him to be involved with crooks in the AFC.
BGurd_See, those things listed do not have caps. To bring greater clarity to the issue, the President needs to inform the public on what his intended staff will be and at what cost, and how many and what types of vehicles he would like. He further needs to clarify to which buildings, whether his mansion (that includes a swimming pool) and office/s, he will apply the free telephone and electricity services to. Importantly too, he needs to clarify who the family and dependants that are entitled to free medical treatment are, since the terms do not specify immediate family, but simply states family, which in Guyana can literally mean anyone. We need to know too if this medical treatment means overseas treatment as well. This is the only way the estimated $3M per month can be refuted.
i dont know what you guys talking about,their is no benfit in jail,but bread in the moning panman

Warrior, yuh fuggetin' de salami at nite. Big Grin
what the matter you piss off, that only bread they will get in the morning. panman
W
YOU SHAMELESS SNAKEOIL SALESMEN. WHAT LEVEL WILL YOU NOT GO TO LIE LIE LIE TO THE GUYANESE PEOPLE. YOU KNOW WHY YOUR PARTY IN THE GARBAGE DUMP?? LET ME TELL YOU WHY, GUYANESE ARE NOT STUPID!!!
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
Just the other day the AFC creeps was quoting 180k US per year. At least gmoney is a decent man to acknowledge this blatant lie. I feel sorry for him to be involved with crooks in the AFC.
BGurd_See, those things listed do not have caps. To bring greater clarity to the issue, the President needs to inform the public on what his intended staff will be and at what cost, and how many and what types of vehicles he would like. He further needs to clarify to which buildings, whether his mansion (that includes a swimming pool) and office/s, he will apply the free telephone and electricity services to. Importantly too, he needs to clarify who the family and dependants that are entitled to free medical treatment are, since the terms do not specify immediate family, but simply states family, which in Guyana can literally mean anyone. We need to know too if this medical treatment means overseas treatment as well. This is the only way the estimated $3M per month can be refuted.
Nehru
President Jagdeo is CORRECT. Mr Ramjattan is a LIAR AND i CAN UNDERSTAND HIS REASON TO DO SO. hIS JOB IS TO CONVINCE THE gUYANESE pEOPLE BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE. hE REALLY WANTS TO BE pRESIDENT.!!
Nehru
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Originally posted by Nehru:
President Jagdeo is CORRECT. Mr Ramjattan is a LIAR AND i CAN UNDERSTAND HIS REASON TO DO SO. hIS JOB IS TO CONVINCE THE gUYANESE pEOPLE BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE. hE REALLY WANTS TO BE pRESIDENT.!!
all the ppp have to do is interduce the freedom of information act and put it on the net.let the president disclose avery thing to the public
W
I think the honorable Dr Jagdeo is chort changing himself here...he deserves far more than this...but given the good man he is i am not shocked he settled for less...no price can be attached to what he did for Guyana and Guyanese. clever
FM
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
I think the honorable Dr Jagdeo is chort changing himself here...he deserves far more than this...but given the good man he is i am not shocked he settled for less...no price can be attached to what he did for Guyana and Guyanese. clever
pray we do not make them a minority government. He will surely have a lot of explaining to do.
FM
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
I think the honorable Dr Jagdeo is chort changing himself here...he deserves far more than this...but given the good man he is i am not shocked he settled for less...no price can be attached to what he did for Guyana and Guyanese. clever
pray we do not make them a minority government. He will surely have a lot of explaining to do.


hey gay2...ah tell yu to stop drinking dat stale paiwari and yu ole rass naa listen EH?...see how it making you look like an ass here..talking like a dumm ass. cheers
FM
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
I think the honorable Dr Jagdeo is chort changing himself here...he deserves far more than this...but given the good man he is i am not shocked he settled for less...no price can be attached to what he did for Guyana and Guyanese. clever
pray we do not make them a minority government. He will surely have a lot of explaining to do.


hey gay2...ah tell yu to stop drinking dat stale paiwari and yu ole rass naa listen EH?...see how it making you look like an ass here..talking like a dumm ass. cheers
I would tell you to send the honey over if only she was not a homely wench. Imagining you make me an ass does not make it so. Anyway, have fun. I got to go make a perfunctory appearance at social function.
FM
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
I think the honorable Dr Jagdeo is chort changing himself here...he deserves far more than this...but given the good man he is i am not shocked he settled for less...no price can be attached to what he did for Guyana and Guyanese. clever
pray we do not make them a minority government. He will surely have a lot of explaining to do.


hey gay2...ah tell yu to stop drinking dat stale paiwari and yu ole rass naa listen EH?...see how it making you look like an ass here..talking like a dumm ass. cheers
I would tell you to send the honey over if only she was not a homely wench. Anyway, have fun. I got to go make a perfunctory appearance at s social gathering.


is this another way of saying a gay party ??? cheers
FM
Supa, let the man enjoy his Piwari and Cassava Bread nah. I cant help to listeh to these SHAMELESS POWER Hungry Political Prostitutes defending their BLATANT LIE LIE LIE!!! The Guyanese People are seeeing these NINCOMPOOPS for what they ARE:SHAMELESS, POWER HUNGRY VULTURES!!!!
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
I think the honorable Dr Jagdeo is chort changing himself here...he deserves far more than this...but given the good man he is i am not shocked he settled for less...no price can be attached to what he did for Guyana and Guyanese. clever
pray we do not make them a minority government. He will surely have a lot of explaining to do.


hey gay2...ah tell yu to stop drinking dat stale paiwari and yu ole rass naa listen EH?...see how it making you look like an ass here..talking like a dumm ass. cheers
I would tell you to send the honey over if only she was not a homely wench. Anyway, have fun. I got to go make a perfunctory appearance at s social gathering.


is this another way of saying a gay party ??? cheers
Nehru
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Supa, let the man enjoy his Piwari and Cassava Bread nah. I cant help to listeh to these SHAMELESS POWER Hungry Political Prostitutes defending their BLATANT LIE LIE LIE!!! The Guyanese People are seeeing these NINCOMPOOPS for what they ARE:SHAMELESS, POWER HUNGRY VULTURES!!!!
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
I think the honorable Dr Jagdeo is chort changing himself here...he deserves far more than this...but given the good man he is i am not shocked he settled for less...no price can be attached to what he did for Guyana and Guyanese. clever
pray we do not make them a minority government. He will surely have a lot of explaining to do.


hey gay2...ah tell yu to stop drinking dat stale paiwari and yu ole rass naa listen EH?...see how it making you look like an ass here..talking like a dumm ass. cheers
I would tell you to send the honey over if only she was not a homely wench. Anyway, have fun. I got to go make a perfunctory appearance at s social gathering.


is this another way of saying a gay party ??? cheers
In full measure such a partaking ( Cassava bread and Piwari)would be worth more than your bushrum and port cutters.

You would be well advised to call those corrupt thieves inclusive of your Presidential candidate shameless. Who would brazenly create a separate living space for their own elites in our capital city funded largely by state funds if not shameless scoundrels?

Be forewarned that if they are reduced to a minority government half of their sorry asses would be before the courts for fraud and corrupt practices. You could rest assured that Ramorat's kids would be on the unemployment line. We cannot afford them state welfare.
FM
“a tax-free pension, free medical treatment for him and the dependent members of his family for the rest of his life, an unspecified number of motor vehicles to be maintained at the taxpayers’ expense, an annual vacation allowance equivalent to the cost of two first class return airfares, full time personal security and security at his place of residence, payment of services for an unspecified number of personal and household staff, payment for the services of an “attendant” and a gardener, payment for the services of an unspecified number of clerical staff, payment for the services of “technical” staff, whatever that means, payment of his water rates, payment of his electricity bill, payment of his telephone bill, and toll free road transportation in Guyana.”


An informal estimate would put these " perks " higher than the conservative $3,000.000 ( Guyana ) being discussed.....
FM
Jagdeo’s Pension
October 31, 2011 | By KNews Editorial

The Office of the President (OP) has responded to the claim made by Khemraj Ramjattan of the Alliance for Change (AFC) that President Jagdeo will be receiving a pension of $3 million per month.
The release from OP dubbed Mr Ramjattan “a compulsive liar” and claimed in turn that Mr Jagdeo will actually be receiving, “about one-third of that amount” – meaning about $1 million per month.
As best as we can verify, the statement from OP is technically correct – but only when the word “pension” is interpreted most narrowly and confine it to the monetary portion of the pension.

But this narrow definition is more notable for what it omits as what it states. There are sins of omission as well as sins of commission. First, we have to point out that the monetary payment is tax free: an ordinary citizen that earns that princely sum would have to part with $333,000 as taxes.
Then we have to include the benefits as enumerated by the “Former Presidents (Benefits and Other Facilities) Act No. 12”, which was passed in the first quarter of 2009 – under Jagdeo’s watch, we should note. These all obviously have a monetary value.

First, there is the “payment of water, electricity and telephone bills”. With the massive open air swimming pool that has to be cleaned and emptied rather frequently, the lawn that has to be watered and the other uses for water, we can conservatively estimate the water bill to be about $50,000 monthly.
Then there’s the electricity. Even when Amaila Falls come on stream, for a mansion the size of the Pradoville property, including the installed air conditioning and floodlights, we’re talking about another $300,000 monthly. Telephone bills for a man with Jagdeo’s international connections could easily run in another $100,000.

Next we move on to, “Services of personal and household staff including but not limited to an attendant and gardener”. Another $250,000 monthly? Remember he’ll need drivers for his vehicles – see below. What about “Services of an unspecified number of clerical and technical staff”? $400,000?
“Free medical treatment or reimbursement of medical expenses incurred by the (Presidents) for their own treatment or treatment of dependents” can easily run us another $200,000 monthly, since we know that individuals like the President will not be going to GHPC.

We can chalk up another $200,000 for “Full-time personal security and services of the Presidential Guard Service at their place of residence”. But it is the “The provision of a (unspecified) number of motor vehicles owned and maintained by the State” that takes the cake.
Jagdeo is used to moving around in Land Cruisers, Mercedes and BMW’s – and we note the plural nature of the “motor vehicles” to be made available. $500,000 monthly?

We’ve reached the additional $2 million that tops up the acknowledged $1 million cash payment to reach the claimed $3 million. And we have not even mentioned the “Annual vacation allowance equivalent to the cost of two first class return airfares”.
But with all the ostentatious demands on the public purse to the conservative estimate of $3 million per month, none displayed the mentality of Jagdeo more than this benefit he insisted on inserting into the legislation: “Toll free road transportation in Guyana”.

After benefits amounting to $3 million monthly, he still cannot pay road tolls? Berbician cannot walk across the Berbice Bridge; they have been denied waiving of the toll for schoolchildren, but an individual with $3 million in his pockets every month, gets a free pass?
In this editorial we have not touched upon the crucial point that was sought to be established in the debate surrounding the President’s pension: the comparison of the Presidents benefits with those of an ordinary pensioner.

The argument made is that Guyana, being a poor country, cannot afford more than $7500 monthly for the latter. So how do we justify $3 million monthly for the President? Surely we want our retired Presidents to live in dignity but is there no correlation with our means?
Tola
What is rediculous about it??? Yuh Prez Bush has airforce 1, A dozes Secret Service Officers. Bhai look I dont have to go on and on. Get yuh baxside suh before I have to come to Manhattan and give you a good whooping. yippie yippie panman partybanana partybanana
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
Why would Jagdeo want such a large pension package? it's ridiculous
Nehru
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Originally posted by Nehru:
What is rediculous about it??? Yuh Prez Bush has airforce 1, A dozes Secret Service Officers. Bhai look I dont have to go on and on. Get yuh baxside suh before I have to come to Manhattan and give you a good whooping. yippie yippie panman partybanana partybanana
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
Why would Jagdeo want such a large pension package? it's ridiculous
This is bullshit!! Some of that money should go to people in guyana who really needs it.
But then again, what do you know. yippie partybanana
Sheik101
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
Why would Jagdeo want such a large pension package? it's ridiculous


Its for the opposite reason why some people don't buy lottery tickets. Power,ego and greed.
Tola
Bannas, Dat is a naive and simplistic arguement. The Trillions of Dollars spent on Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Israel could have gone to Africa, right?
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
What is rediculous about it??? Yuh Prez Bush has airforce 1, A dozes Secret Service Officers. Bhai look I dont have to go on and on. Get yuh baxside suh before I have to come to Manhattan and give you a good whooping. yippie yippie panman partybanana partybanana
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
Why would Jagdeo want such a large pension package? it's ridiculous
This is bullshit!! Some of that money should go to people in guyana who really needs it.
But then again, what do you know. yippie partybanana
Nehru
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Originally posted by Tola:
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
Why would Jagdeo want such a large pension package? it's ridiculous


Its for the opposite reason why some people don't buy lottery tickets. Power,ego and greed.
True story, tola bai.
Sheik101
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Bannas, Dat is a naive and simplistic arguement. The Trillions of Dollars spent on Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Israel could have gone to Africa, right?
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
What is rediculous about it??? Yuh Prez Bush has airforce 1, A dozes Secret Service Officers. Bhai look I dont have to go on and on. Get yuh baxside suh before I have to come to Manhattan and give you a good whooping. yippie yippie panman partybanana partybanana
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
Why would Jagdeo want such a large pension package? it's ridiculous
This is bullshit!! Some of that money should go to people in guyana who really needs it.
But then again, what do you know. yippie partybanana
Don't compare guyana with America bai. Two different horses.
Sheik101
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Bannas, Dat is a naive and simplistic arguement. The Trillions of Dollars spent on Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Israel could have gone to Africa, right?
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
What is rediculous about it??? Yuh Prez Bush has airforce 1, A dozes Secret Service Officers. Bhai look I dont have to go on and on. Get yuh baxside suh before I have to come to Manhattan and give you a good whooping. yippie yippie panman partybanana partybanana
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
Why would Jagdeo want such a large pension package? it's ridiculous
This is bullshit!! Some of that money should go to people in guyana who really needs it.
But then again, what do you know. yippie partybanana

Exactly what's the relationship? No one is questioning Guyana's donations to Haiti, Grenada, etc inspite of abject poverty in Guyana. Prezy Bush does not have AF1 in retirement and he lives at a home he owned PRIOR to becoming president. Bush and all past presidents get a pension and certain security, but not personal maids service, free holidays, utility bills paid, etc. They pay their own personal gas and toll bills. They also do not have paid personal clerical staff maybe except if the embark on some national issue.
FM
Bhagwan The Snakeoil FOOL. You expect me to listn to him??? Bannas yuh gettin more and more naive and lil stupidee. yippie panman partybanana

I hope you enjoy the steel Pan Music.
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
Bai, after Bhagwan spoke to you last nite I thought that you would finally come to your senses and see the light. Alas, such is not the case. Big Grin Big Grin
Nehru
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Exactly what's the relationship? No one is questioning Guyana's donations to Haiti, Grenada, etc inspite of abject poverty in Guyana. Prezy Bush does not have AF1 in retirement and he lives at a home he owned PRIOR to becoming president. Bush and all past presidents get a pension and certain security, but not personal maids service, free holidays, utility bills paid, etc. They pay their own personal gas and toll bills. They also do not have paid personal clerical staff maybe except if the embark on some national issue.

You rass prappa gat nuff time fuh waste. What does Nehru know about Guyana
Tell me.
Sheik101
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Bhagwan The Snakeoil FOOL. You expect me to listn to him??? Bannas yuh gettin more and more naive and lil stupidee. yippie panman partybanana

I hope you enjoy the steel Pan Music.
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
Bai, after Bhagwan spoke to you last nite I thought that you would finally come to your senses and see the light. Alas, such is not the case. Big Grin Big Grin
Maybe, but I'm not championing for a party who doesn't have the people's best interest at heart, or a country where I have no vested interest
You was supposed to light de agarbati and see de light. partybanana yippie I hope you enjoying dem dancing babanas
Sheik101
Bhai, Deh PPP gat Guyana too SWEET. Why you think you are there every six Months hanging with Brazilian Chicks. partybanana partybanana yippie yippie
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Bhagwan The Snakeoil FOOL. You expect me to listn to him??? Bannas yuh gettin more and more naive and lil stupidee. yippie panman partybanana

I hope you enjoy the steel Pan Music.
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
Bai, after Bhagwan spoke to you last nite I thought that you would finally come to your senses and see the light. Alas, such is not the case. Big Grin Big Grin
Maybe, but I'm not championing for a party who doesn't have the people's best interest at heart, or a country where I have no vested interest
You was supposed to light de agarbati and see de light. partybanana yippie
Nehru
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Bhai, Deh PPP gat Guyana too SWEET. Why you think you are there every six Months hanging with Brazilian Chicks. partybanana partybanana yippie yippie
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Bhagwan The Snakeoil FOOL. You expect me to listn to him??? Bannas yuh gettin more and more naive and lil stupidee. yippie panman partybanana

I hope you enjoy the steel Pan Music.
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
Bai, after Bhagwan spoke to you last nite I thought that you would finally come to your senses and see the light. Alas, such is not the case. Big Grin Big Grin
Maybe, but I'm not championing for a party who doesn't have the people's best interest at heart, or a country where I have no vested interest
You was supposed to light de agarbati and see de light. partybanana yippie
And that is precisely why I want to take you. not for the brazilians, but for the GOG, the people you glorify. Suh when yuh booking yuh passage?
Sheik101
I will be there Vov 30. GECOM will have Results then. I told them to have Nuff Poke and Henny for OFFICER NEHRU.
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Bhai, Deh PPP gat Guyana too SWEET. Why you think you are there every six Months hanging with Brazilian Chicks. partybanana partybanana yippie yippie
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Bhagwan The Snakeoil FOOL. You expect me to listn to him??? Bannas yuh gettin more and more naive and lil stupidee. yippie panman partybanana

I hope you enjoy the steel Pan Music.
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Originally posted by Sheik101:
Bai, after Bhagwan spoke to you last nite I thought that you would finally come to your senses and see the light. Alas, such is not the case. Big Grin Big Grin
Maybe, but I'm not championing for a party who doesn't have the people's best interest at heart, or a country where I have no vested interest
You was supposed to light de agarbati and see de light. partybanana yippie
And that is precisely why I want to take you. not for the brazilians, but for the GOG, the people you glorify. Suh when yuh booking yuh passage?
Nehru

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