The 'BLOW BLOW' BRIGADE have started to sell their Lies . 

But let us check the facts:

1. Why haven't u been joining all the other political parties to get GECOM to RELEASE their SOPs.
&
2. Why u guys are against the LIVE STREAMING?

Let the games begin.

@Rochelle posted:

Let the games begin.

No wonder after 60 days, we are still counting. I saw you was celebrating your uncle PW birthday the other day.  Anyway, thanks for been at the front line for all of us and keeping the lights on and providing that front line service, without the services from people like you, the pandemic would be deadly for us all. People like you can never be compensated enough.

PS: Dont worry how I unmask you ..lol.

Thank You Rochelle.

@Former Member posted:

No wonder after 60 days, we are still counting. I saw you was celebrating your uncle PW birthday the other day.  Anyway, thanks for been at the front line for all of us and keeping the lights on and providing that front line service, without the services from people like you, the pandemic would be deadly for us all. People like you can never be compensated enough.

PS: Dont worry how I unmask you ..lol.

Thank You Rochelle.

Wait, what? You're still trying to find my identity? Ridiculous.

Like Dave renting his handle. 

@Rochelle posted:

Let the games begin.

What games? Is rigging an election by the PNC a game?  No wonder the rest of the world thinks that Guyana is a shithole country.

@Former Member posted:

... I saw you was celebrating your uncle PW birthday the other day.  Anyway, thanks for been at the front.......

 

 Mit's, this part was written by Dave#1.  "was".  "been".......the rest is debatable.

Jagdeo dynamically selected Irfaart to be the one to run for the Presidency. That's dynamic centralism. Not Democracy. 

Dave your videos are meaningless. I wasted 10 mins of my life watching them.

Oh man you got caught. I have never watched any of what is being posted, it's usually overkill.

This is why I spoke about some being backward illiterate in another thread, the guy does more harm for the opposition than those he tries to blame.

LAWS OF GUYANA Representation of the People Cap. 1:03

Procedure on conclusion of count.

Recounts.

88. A duly appointed candidate, or counting agent present when the
counting or any recount of votes is completed, may request the returning
officer to have the votes recounted or again recounted; but the returning
officer may refuse such request if in his opinion it is unreasonable.

[30 of 1990] 89.

89 (1) Upon the conclusion of the final counting, under section 84,
of the votes the returning officer, in the presence of such of the persons
entitled under section 86(1) to be present as attend, shall—
(a) seal in separate packets the counted and rejected ballot papers;
(b) verify the ballot papers account given by each presiding
officer by comparing it with—
(i) the number of ballot papers recorded under section 87(1)(c);
(ii) the unused and spoiled ballot papers in his possession; and
(iii) the record of tendered votes contained in the poll book; Form 24.
(c) reseal the packets of unused and spoiled ballot papers;
(d) prepare a written statement as to the result of the
verification of the ballot papers account and on request allow
any counting agent present to make a copy thereof;
(e) publicly declare the result of the final counting;
(f) deliver to the Chief Election Officer a return in writing
in respect of the final counting in Form 24 which shall set out
the number of—
(i) valid votes cast for each list of candidates as aforesaid;
(ii) rejected ballot papers together with, in each case, the reason for rejection;
(iii) spoiled ballot papers delivered to him;
(iv) tendered ballot papers;
(v) persons who appear to have voted.

(2) The returning officer shall not open the sealed packets
containing tendered ballot papers, marked copies of the official list of
electors or part thereof or counterfoils of used ballot papers.

(3) Any counting agent may copy the return made under
subsection (l)(f).

90. Every person attending at the counting of votes shall maintain and
aid in maintaining the secrecy of voting and shall not communicate any
information obtained at the count as to the list of candidates for which
any vote has been given.

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When 89 (2) become applicable ?

What's your take ?

You boneheads, it matters not what any of your opinionscare of candidate, it matters what the people said on E-day.  

Granger is known to take part in rigging and believe placing guns at the head of opposition monitors as they stole the boxes.

By any stretch, he is a criminal, except for the PNC criminals!  But what’s new!

@Django posted:

LAWS OF GUYANA Representation of the People Cap. 1:03

Procedure on conclusion of count.

Recounts.

89
(2) The returning officer shall not open the sealed packets containing tendered ballot papers, marked copies of the official list of electors or part thereof or counterfoils of used ballot papers.

---------------------------------------------------------

When 89 (2) become applicable ?

What's your take ?

When the said process in completed, the returning officer cannot undo the packages to make changes, etc.

@Django posted:

LAWS OF GUYANA Representation of the People Cap. 1:03

Procedure on conclusion of count.

Recounts.

88. A duly appointed candidate, or counting agent present when the
counting or any recount of votes is completed, may request the returning
officer to have the votes recounted or again recounted; but the returning
officer may refuse such request if in his opinion it is unreasonable.

[30 of 1990] 89.

89 (1) Upon the conclusion of the final counting, under section 84,
of the votes the returning officer, in the presence of such of the persons
entitled under section 86(1) to be present as attend, shall—
(a) seal in separate packets the counted and rejected ballot papers;
(b) verify the ballot papers account given by each presiding
officer by comparing it with—
(i) the number of ballot papers recorded under section 87(1)(c);
(ii) the unused and spoiled ballot papers in his possession; and
(iii) the record of tendered votes contained in the poll book; Form 24.
(c) reseal the packets of unused and spoiled ballot papers;
(d) prepare a written statement as to the result of the
verification of the ballot papers account and on request allow
any counting agent present to make a copy thereof;
(e) publicly declare the result of the final counting;
(f) deliver to the Chief Election Officer a return in writing
in respect of the final counting in Form 24 which shall set out
the number of—
(i) valid votes cast for each list of candidates as aforesaid;
(ii) rejected ballot papers together with, in each case, the reason for rejection;
(iii) spoiled ballot papers delivered to him;
(iv) tendered ballot papers;
(v) persons who appear to have voted.

(2) The returning officer shall not open the sealed packets
containing tendered ballot papers, marked copies of the official list of
electors or part thereof or counterfoils of used ballot papers.

(3) Any counting agent may copy the return made under
subsection (l)(f).

90. Every person attending at the counting of votes shall maintain and
aid in maintaining the secrecy of voting and shall not communicate any
information obtained at the count as to the list of candidates for which
any vote has been given.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

When 89 (2) become applicable ?

What's your take ?

The recount is being done under different sections of the law.  The relevant sections are identified in the Gazetted order signed by Justice Singh.  Datadin and Nandlall know that but they are trying to create confusion.  PPP skulduggery is about to be exposed!

DG, can we bring the discussion on Drawzie over here, or should I start a new thread on that subject matter? 

With the carnage on Guyana's roads, why are people still allowed to travel in the opened back of trucks as seen in the first photo?

Cain ...

You choice to start a new/separate/independent one for your topic.

We will see how far it will proceed.

However, definitely not on this one.

GECOM cannot audit itself

WHO SAID THE GAMES ARE OVER WITH PNC

The PNC/APNU/AFC caretaker government is strenuously pushing for GECOM to conduct an audit of the ballots rather than a recount which has actually been authorised by the Commission. According to Attorney at law Sanjeev Datadin, this is simply another ruse by the coalition to extend the recount so that they could continue clinging on to power through having the officials comply with the 19-point checklist provided by the Secretariat while simultaneously providing them with a wider array of reasons for returning to the courts.

As pointed out by Datadin,  any de facto audit “ignores Section 89(2) of the Representation of the People Act (RPA) that expressly states  “the Returning Officer shall not open the sealed packets containing tendered ballots, the marked copies of the official list of electors …or counterfoils of used ballot papers… Whilst it is true that the recount is under GECOM exercising its constitutional (Art 162) and statutory powers and not the RPA the edict of RPA should not be easily ignored… The RPA codified the restriction because it was recognised that to do otherwise in a recount would be chaotic and take far too long.”

In its editorial of May 5^th, the state-run Chronicle boasted about the supposed recount that GECOM had authorised, “there will be a full, comprehensive, recount, and a thorough forensic audit.” But there is a more fundamental point that the caretaker government ignores, according to Datadeen, “To engage in anything except a recount of the ballots allows Alexander and his APNU cohorts to raise all manner of issues relating to the OLE and voters with no dispute resolution protocol in place – the recount process would be rendered paralysed.”

One of these issues, as highlighted concerns the propriety of any organisation auditing itself. While internal audits are standard for most organisations, these exercises  are “usually used for internal purposes and asses such issues, such as control, governance and risk management processes within an organisation.” In fact there is need for an internal audit to discover what actually occurred with the tabulation of the SOP’s by Mingo on April 4^th.

If the GECOM Commission felt it was necessary to have an audit of the ballots for the credibility of the March 2^nd elections, it should have counted the ballots, declared the results – as was requested by the PNC after the 1997 elections, then an external auditor (or firm) would have to be retained as was Mr Ulric Cross in that instance.

@Former Member posted:

When the said process in completed, the returning officer cannot undo the packages to make changes, etc.

That's correct.

My understanding 89(2) won't be applicable to the current recount and audit .

Datadin point is moot.

@Totaram posted:

The recount is being done under different sections of the law.  The relevant sections are identified in the Gazetted order signed by Justice Singh. 

Datadin and Nandlall know that but they are trying to create confusion. 

PPP skulduggery is about to be exposed!

Exactly what they are trying to do.

@Django posted:

That's correct.

My understanding 89(2) won't be applicable to the current recount and audit .

Correct views on Section 89(2).

The section of the Act is to emphasize that the action/activity is completed when sealed, etc.

Should a detailed recount take place - perhaps each vote at a time - then all relevant packages, boxes, etc., will be opened in a proper manner.

@Mitwah posted:

Jagdeo dynamically selected Irfaart to be the one to run for the Presidency. That's dynamic centralism. Not Democracy. 

Jagdeo had chosen Irfaat Ali over Nandlall.  Would you have had him choose Nandlall instead?

@Django posted:

Exactly what they are trying to do.

And you will agree that if Region 4 count was completed and GECOM and APNU releases their SOPs for transparency , we will not have these issues.

@Ramakant-P posted:

Jagdeo had chosen Irfaat Ali over Nandlall.  Would you have had him choose Nandlall instead?

And Granger was selected as a Presidential Candidate. 

PRESS STATEMENT FROM PPPC.

For the purpose of the recount, the Statement of Recount (SOR) takes the place of the Statement of Poll (SOP) at the Polling Place. Upon the conclusion of the count at the Place of Poll, the SOP, containing the result of the count is signed by the Presiding Officer (PO) and a duplicate copy of the original is, immediately, handed to each Polling Agent representing their respective Political Parties, the original copy is sent by the PO to the Returning Officer (RO) and another duplicate copy of the original is sent to the Chief Election Officer.

@Former Member posted:

And you will agree that if Region 4 count was completed and GECOM and APNU releases their SOPs for transparency , we will not have these issues.

It's not about APNU SOPs  for  Region 4 only, more than that needed for transparency. For awhile there are theories ,there was malpractices in past elections under the PPP/C. It's highly suspicious the party gained from such activity.

@Former Member posted:

And Granger was selected as a Presidential Candidate. 

Where did you get that from ?

See you all in the morning.

@Django posted:

Where did you get that from ?

I believe you missed the video I posted Sir... There was a video I had posted here. 

Norton alleges fixing of PNCR electoral process

-urges inclusive leadership to take party forward

Dave, you need to remove your blinkers and focus on the recount. 

@Django posted:

It's not about APNU SOPs  for  Region 4 only, more than that needed for transparency. For awhile there are theories ,there was malpractices in past elections under the PPP/C. It's highly suspicious the party gained from such activity.

I am appalled of your logics for a transparent process but how has any of this affected GECOM original SOPs not to be released to show who actually won or the APNU/AFC to declare their copies of sops like the PPPC to bring some clarity.  Diverting attention from the central problem of electoral malfeasance is the course of action now being employed. Lets start with the current election that cannot be concluded  after 2 months. Why would a party that has won the election oppose all requests to do the right things? They engaged in obstacles in every step of the way to bring the process to a closure and to allow a winner to be declared.

So says Dave#2 or is it #3?????

@Former Member posted:

With all due respect Django, you need to analyse the actions and information out there and form your  own opinion than being brainwashed into believing what you are being told.

There is an abundance of information in the public domain. 

 

Banna you got to be kidding ,no one out there can pull that off.

I have all the information including lengthy videos from different sources ,i am aware what played out the command center in Region 4.

I have information from 1957 to 2003 ,who were meddling in Guyana affairs. It's time the country change course ,instead of being a laughing stock of the world.

The small islands in the Carribbean are ahead of Guyana settling their internal matters.

@cain posted:

So says Dave#2 or is it #3?????

Keep guessing Blow Blow.

@Django posted:

Banna you got to be kidding ,no one out there can pull that off.

I have all the information including lengthy videos from different sources ,i am aware what played out the command center in Region 4.

I have information from 1957 to 2003 ,who were meddling in Guyana affairs. It's time the country change course ,instead of being a laughing stock of the world.

The small islands in the Carribbean are ahead of Guyana settling their internal matters.

And who is responsible. You do not have to be a rocket scientist to know..rite.

@Former Member posted:

And who is responsible. You do not have to be a rocket scientist to know..rite.

Jagdeo!