@Django posted:

PRESS STATEMENT

For immediate release

31-05-2022

THE GOVERNMENT FAILS TO RESUME CONSULTATIONS

The Joint Statement signed on the 13th day of May, 2022, stated that, "It was further agreed that the consultations will be guided by the Constitution and the in-person consultations will resume on a date to be fixed, but within a week."

The aforesaid time expired without the resumption of in-person consultations and without any prior communication by the Government is testimony to the Government's disregard for agreements it signs and is a manifestation of bad faith.

Ms. Gail Teixeira, Minister of Parliamentary Affairs and Governance in a letter dated the 27th day of May, 2022, which was addressed to the Leader of the Opposition purports to offer excuses for the failure to resume the consultation “within a week”.

The excuses provided in the letter are firstly, the Leader of the Opposition “must be aware that Guyana hosted the first Agri-Investment Forum and Expo on May, 19th – 21st, 2022” and secondly, that “this was followed by the national and regional celebrations of 56th Independence Anniversary”.

The excuses proffered are devoid of credibility and disconcerting, as the President must surely have known when he was making the Agreement that he had those engagements as they were certainly planned in advance of the commencement of the consultations before our engagement.

These actions are indicators of the manifestation of incompetence or a disregard for the President and others constitutional responsibilities.

The letter of Friday, 27th day of May, 2022, which extended an invitation from the President to resume in person Consultations on Monday, 30th day of May, 2022, was received late in the evening of the 27th day of May, 2022.

The Leader of the Opposition was unavailable to accept the aforesaid invitation having regard to certain commitments and a pressing schedule.

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Irfaan Ali can't manage his time? Or, is he playing games? Or, counting blackbelly sheep? Norton's response is appropriate.  It must be frustrating to deal with trench crapo jagabats.

Seems like Tex calling the shots.

Norton should let her know that he is not dealing with minions.

Norton signals court challenge as President appoints PSC, Integrity Commission

June 1, 2022

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Article 210 of the Constitution is hereby altered in the following respects --- (i) by the substitution for the words "consultation with the Minority Leader from among members appointed under subparagraph (d)" in subparagraph (a) of the words "meaningful consultation with the Leader of the Opposition from among members appointed under subparagraph (c)"; (ii) by the substitution for subparagraphs (c) and (d) of the following subparagraph - "(c) four members appointed by the President upon nomination by the National Assembly after it has consulted such bodies as appear to it to represent the majority of the members of the Police Force and any other such body it deems fit;"; (b) by the substitution in paragraph (4) for the words "consultation with the Minority Leader" of the words "meaningful consultation with the Leader of the Opposition".

Norton’s party boasts avid support of police but he dragged his foot on a process to secure their wellbeing– Nandlall

Despite the fact that the People’s National Congress Reform (PNCR) identifies the Guyana Police Force (GPF) as a massive chunk of its support base, the Opposition Leader, Aubrey Norton dragged his feet during the process to reconstitute the Police Service Commission (PSC) – an entity with the power to better the lives of ranks. Attorney General (AG) and Legal Affairs Minister, Anil Nandlall made this claim during his recent “Issues in the News” programme.

The AG contends that if Norton cared about the upward mobility of the ranks, he should have been much more proactive, rather than opting to stay away from a follow-up meeting to consult on the appointment of members to sit on the commission.

“They have historically claimed that that the police force supports them. Now, if these are their supporters, one would expect that every action of theirs would be dedicated, intended and would be designed to ensure that the best interests of their supporters are advanced. Yet, when the time has come for the appointment of the Police Service Commission, you have this gerrymandering, procrastinating game being played by Mr Norton,” Nandlall said.

The AG said that Norton displayed “immaturity” by not making himself unavailable for the second round of consultation facilitated by the President. This, he claimed, reflects Norton’s “lack of appreciation” of the PSC’s importance.

Norton, however, has given reason for his absence. He said that he could not attend because he was busy with a “pressing” schedule while stressing that the meeting was being facilitated well beyond the agreed-upon seven-day period.

Noteworthy is the fact that Norton stated after the period had elapsed that he would not disrupt his schedule to meet with the President at a date and time he (the President) deems suitable.

Nandlall, in his usual style, queried “Norton says he’s busy? Busy doing what?

He continued, “This busyness is more important than advancing the cause of hundreds of police officers whose welfare is affected by a commission that is not appointed. He doesn’t see that. He wants to go on this ego trip that he seems to be on”.

The PSC governs, inter alia, the promotion and disciplining of police ranks. The one-year absence of the commission has resulted in stagnation, the AG said. He reminded also that the force has a retirement age, and many who transition out of the organisation after attaining that age, do so at a rank that does not reflect their years of service. Also, benefits including pension during post-retirement are reflective of the last rank held by the officer.

This “injustice”, the AG said, is one that the government sought to eradicate. However, the process hit a snag when Norton’s predecessor, Joseph Harmon, refused to acknowledge the government as legitimate. Nandlall said that further delay followed during the period when the opposition sought to have Norton take over from Harmon, and his induction into the National Assembly as a Member of Parliament (MP).

@Former Member, this is a typical  case of the kettle calling the pot black. heheheheheheh.

@Mitwah posted:

@Former Member, this is a typical  case of the kettle calling the pot black. heheheheheheh.

Sooo Mitwah .... Norton is saying that he and the PNCR bottoms are black. Heee hee heeee  

Pres. Ali says will engage Opposition Leader on top judicial appointments

President Dr Irfaan Ali

President Dr Irfaan Ali has stated that he would be engaging the Leader of the Opposition, Aubrey Norton, on the appointments of the Chancellor and Chief Justice (CJ) when the time is right, and after the various service commissions are established.

At a press conference on Monday last, Norton expressed his support for the confirmation of Justice Yonette Cummings-Edwards as Chancellor and Justice Roxane George as Chief Justice. They are currently acting in their respective positions.

“In recognition of the importance and necessity of making permanent appointments to the offices of Chancellor and Chief Justice, we restate our commitment to agreeing to the immediate appointment of Justices Yonette Cummings-Edwards and Roxanne George as the Chancellor and Chief Justice respectively,” the Opposition Leader has stated.

Article 127 (1) of the Constitution of Guyana states: “The Chancellor and the Chief Justice shall each be appointed by the President, acting after obtaining the agreement of the Leader of the Opposition.”

According to President Ali, consultations are currently ongoing for the service commissions, after which he would engage the Opposition Leader on the judicial appointments.

“We have no issues appointing (the Chancellor and Chief Justice), but when the right time comes, we will have the consultations on the Chancellor and the Chief Justice. The consultation (with the Opposition Leader so far) was on the Commissions,” the President has said. “The President asked for consultations on those commissions (specifically),” the Head of State told reporters on Friday at State House.

On May 13, President Ali and Opposition Leader Norton met for the first time to consult on the appointments of the various service commissions, including the Judicial Service Commission, Police Service Commission, Teaching Service Commission and the Integrity Commission. At the time, the two leaders had agreed to consult, in keeping with the Constitution, which stipulates that meaningful consultation be held on the appointments of these Service Commissions.

In fact, Norton had requested additional information on the nominees, and this was provided to him. However, when the Head of State invited the Opposition Leader last Monday for a second meeting, Norton failed to show, citing that he was busy. As a result, President Ali went ahead and appointed the Police Service Commission and the Integrity Commission the following day, when the members were sworn-in.

Asked about the appointments of the other commissions on Friday, the Guyanese Leader said consultations were completed.

“I have completed consultations on those that were before the process, including the three names for the Teaching Service Commission and one name for the Judicial Service Commission,” the President indicated.

Meanwhile, Norton has since indicated his intention to legally challenge last week’s appointments of the Police Service Commission and the Integrity Service Commission. The Members of the PSC were selected and approved by the National Assembly, and the two leaders were required to meet and appoint a chairman from among the names.

President Ali has criticised Norton’s no-show at the meeting as an act of unwillingness and immaturity, and has made it clear that the country’s development will not be held hostage by political objectives.

“I am pursuing ‘One Guyana’. It is clear to me that those aspirations of mine may not be shared by Mr Norton, because he did not have the dignity, the professionalism, to even respond orally or in writing to an invitation by the Office of the President. If this is the approach of the Leader of the Opposition, I have no problems with that. My approach is to move this country forward. Our approach as a Government is to take this country forward, in keeping with the constitutional requirements, and we will not have those requirements held up or held hostage by political objectives,” the Head of State posited during a live Address to the Nation.

Meanwhile, Attorney General and Legal Affairs Minister Anil Nandlall SC, who had accompanied President Ali on both occasions to meet with the Opposition Leader, said during his weekly programme – Issues In The News – on Tuesday that Government cannot wait any longer to make these appointments.

“Judges have to be appointed, teachers have to be promoted, Police (have to be promoted); important decisions have to be made… We cannot allow Mr Norton to ridicule this process and reduce it to one of the egocentricities that he seems to be engaged in the public domain,” Nandlall stated.

The Attorney General noted that Norton has displayed a lack of understanding of the importance of these appointments, as well as the role of his office, and he has further reassured that the Government and President Ali have complied with the provisions of the Constitution in relation to the appointments made last Tuesday, and will continue to do so with other similar appointments.

“No one will hold our Government at ransom and try to bully…and behave in any way that is contumacious and contemptuous, either of our Government or the important constitutional processes. That will not be tolerated… Every effort will continue to be made to engage Mr Norton in compliance with the Constitution. Wherever Mr Norton is unwilling to engage, the process will be proceeded with in accordance with the Constitution. The Constitution nor the law will ever contemplate a situation where the entire rule of law will be held to ransom because you have a recalcitrant or delinquent Leader of the Opposition who refuses to consult,” the Legal Affairs Minister has contended.

Why pressure Ali? He is also acting as president.

Guyana seems to have more actors than Bollywood. Most of the top positions if not all are occupied by actors. Name one who is not?

@Mitwah posted:

Why pressure Ali? He is also acting as president.

Guyana seems to have more actors than Bollywood. Most of the top positions if not all are occupied by actors. Name one who is not?

Oiiii Mitwah -- Perhaps, some of the actors are ..... Aubrey Norton, David Patterson, Christopher Jones, Khemraj Ramjattan, Sherod Duncan, Raphael Trotman, Shurwayne Holder, Jermaine Figueira, etc., etc..

No Norton allies seen at Amna Ally’s birthday celebration

Posted by: Denis Chabrol in News, Politics Monday, 6 June 2022, 7:33 0 Comments -- Last Updated on Monday, 6 June 2022, 8:58 by Writer -- Source -- https://demerarawaves.com/2022...irthday-celebration/

Former President David Granger and a number of his key political allies were seen at former People’s National Congress Reform (PNCR) General Secretary, Amna Ally’s birthday celebration.

Neither current leader Aubrey Norton nor any of his known PNCR internal allies were seen in the several pictures that were posted by Ganesh Mahipaul, a Central Executive member and A Partnership for National Unity+Alliance For Change (APNU+AFC) parliamentarian, on his Facebook profile.

Those seen in several pictures included Mr. Granger and his wife, Sandra Granger, Ms. Ally, Mr. Joseph Harmon, and Mr. Larry London as well as Mayor Ubraj Narine, Deputy Mayor Alfred Mentore and Region Four Chairman Daniel Seeram.

The several PNCR Executive members, who are among APNU+AFC parliamentarians are Mr. Mahipaul, Mr. Roysdale Forde, Annette Ferguson, Natasha Singh-Lewis, Nima Flue-Bess, Maureen Philadelphia, Coretta Mc Donald, and Region Four Chairman, Daniel Seeram and Deonarine Ramsaroop.

Many of those present had openly endorsed and campaigned for then Opposition Leader Harmon to become PNCR Leader against Mr. Norton. Even after he was defeated by Norton and members of his slate, there had been a seeming reluctance by Mr. Harmon to resign from the post of Opposition Leader.

@Former Member posted:

Oiiii Mitwah -- Perhaps, some of the actors are ..... Aubrey Norton, David Patterson, Christopher Jones, Khemraj Ramjattan, Sherod Duncan, Raphael Trotman, Shurwayne Holder, Jermaine Figueira, etc., etc..

Nice try Mr. DG.

None of the above were made actors by Ali.

For example, In August 2020, Hoppie was selected as the acting Commissioner of Police.

In March 2022, Ali,  appointed  Clifton Hicken, to act in the capacity of Commissioner of Police of the Guyana Police Force (GPF).

@Former Member posted:

Oiiii Mitwah -- Perhaps, some of the actors are ..... Aubrey Norton, David Patterson, Christopher Jones, Khemraj Ramjattan, Sherod Duncan, Raphael Trotman, Shurwayne Holder, Jermaine Figueira, etc., etc..

@Mitwah posted:

Nice try Mr. DG.

None of the above were made actors by Ali.

For example, In August 2020, Hoppie was selected as the acting Commissioner of Police.

In March 2022, Ali,  appointed  Clifton Hicken, to act in the capacity of Commissioner of Police of the Guyana Police Force (GPF).

Of course Mitwah ....  it is well known those were not appointed by Irfaan Ali.  

They were all appointees of the PNCR/APNU/AFC. 

Norton agrees to confirmation of CJ, Chancellor posts; says “ball” now in Ali’s court

Opposition Leader, Aubrey Norton says he is in agreement that Justice Yonnette Cummings be appointed the substantive post of Judiciary Chancellor and Justice Roxanne George Wiltshire also confirmed as Cheif Justice.

Norton’s agreement was communicated to the Parliamentary Affairs Minister, Gail Teixeira through a missive signed by his representative and fellow Member of Parliament, Roysdale Forde, S.C.

Forde said that Norton’s approval is in keeping with Article 127 (1) of the Guyana Consitution, which states that the Chancellor and the Chief Justice shall each be appointed by the President, acting after obtaining the agreement of the Leader of the Opposition.

Norton, in a tweet today, wrote: “The ball is in your court Mr. President”, with a copy of the letter sent to Teixeira.

His agreement for confirmation comes against the backdrop of clamour from a wide cross-section of society that both Justices be appointed.

Even the President of the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ), Justice Adrian Saunders had expressed disappointment in the sloth of confirmation. He said that it is the “one significant blot on an otherwise impressive Guyanese legal and judicial landscape”.

“For the country to have not appointed a Chancellor for 17 long years is very disappointing; likewise, to be without an appointed Chief Justice for several years. As the President of your final court, I believe I have a right and a duty publicly to express the view that Guyana should not let this year pass and not remedy this regrettable situation,” the CCJ President said at an event back in April of this year.

Saunders’ comments are aligned with those expressed by Attorney General and Legal Affairs Minister, Anil Nandlall, who recently noted that change to the procedure that appoints these important judicial operatives warrant change.

He said that the formula that requires consensus between the President and the Opposition Leader for the appointment of a Chief Justice and Chancellor, has not worked in the more than two decades it was put in place.

Similar sentiments were expressed recently by the President of the Guyana Bar Association, Pauline Chase, who called for changes to the process, underscoring that it is “inimical” to the rule of law that there are acting appointments of highest judicial officers.

Letter: Norton misunderstands Constitution on judicial appointments

Opposition Leader Aubrey Norton

The APNU/AFC proudly displayed on its Facebook page, a letter under the hand of Senior Counsel Roysdale Forde, who wrote on behalf of Opposition Leader Aubrey Norton, on an Office of the Leader of the Opposition letterhead, to the Honourable Gail Teixeira, to indicate that Mr. Norton wished that she be advised that he “is in agreement that Justice Yonette Cummings and Justice Roxanne George-Wiltshire be appointed Chancellor and Chief Justice respectively. Senior Counsel Forde correctly referred to the appropriate Article of the Constitution which governs such appointments but Senior Counsel Roysdale Forde has done himself a terrible disservice to the dignity to which he was only recently elevated. Many members of the junior bar would recognize his blunder and would have refused to lend their name to such a precipitate bungle.

Assuming Senior Counsel Forde received instructions from Norton to write the letter referred to, he should have asked Aubrey Norton whether the President has proposed or advised him that he wishes to appoint these two judges to the positions mentioned. And it was for Senior Counsel Forde to tell Norton that it is only after such Presidential advice that he was at liberty to express his agreement or otherwise with the President’s proposal. Unless I am in the dark, I am not aware that the President has proposed these judges for appointment to the offices of Chancellor and Chief Justice.

Forde wrote in his letter that “the Leader of the Opposition is “in agreement” that these Judges be appointed. Referring to Forde’s letter, Norton at a press conference noted “in this regard the Leader of the Opposition has fulfilled his constitutional responsibility, since all that was needed is agreement, and I have agreed”. Norton himself would say, “as I understand it an agreement is arrived at between two persons who reach a common position on, for example, a dispute or an objective of one sort or another”. One dictionary meaning given to the word agreement is “a negotiated and typically legally binding arrangement between parties as to a course of action”. Another is “harmony or accordance in opinion”.

In the absence of a presidential intimation to Norton on the issue of judicial appointments, the question is, who is Norton in agreement with? Certainly, Norton cannot be in agreement with himself for that is not the Constitutional prescription. For Norton to say that by his precipitate expression of agreement on these judicial appointments he has fulfilled his constitutional responsibility is an enormous blunder on his part. It is such uninformed, ill-advised, misinterpretations of the Constitution that causes Norton to make more of the office he holds in a now well recognized, arrogant, threatening, bombastic way.

Aubrey Norton is precipitate. If by his erroneous remarks and by the letter he has presumably asked Roysdale Forde to write on his behalf, he wishes to force the hand of the President on judicial appointments, my considered view, is that if he was good at psychoanalysis, (and Norton obviously is not) he would recognize that President Ali is not one to yield to subterfuge. Aubrey Norton has clearly misunderstood a very clearly expressed Article 127(1) of the Constitution and the sequence of procedure therein outlined. His anxiety to indicate his agreement on judicial appointments is undoubtedly troubling to the people of Guyana and as GHK Lall would say, “It disturbs and is not at all encouraging.”

Yours Sincerely,
Selwyn Persaud

President Ali recommits to meeting Harmon

October 30, 2021

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President Dr. Irfaan Ali (Office of the President photo

–says he will do whatever the Constitution requires

PRESIDENT Dr. Irfaan Ali says he is not opposed to meeting with Opposition Leader Joseph Harmon, as is constitutionally required, in relation to a number of matters, including the substantive appointments of several constitutional officers such as the Chancellor of the Judiciary, the Chief Justice, and the Commissioner of Police.

At a virtual press conference on Friday, Dr. Ali told reporters that he is “fully committed to abiding by every aspect of the Constitution”, and that there are no preconditions to fulfilling his mandate of engaging the Opposition Leader.

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CCJ President calls for appointment of substantive Chancellor, CJ

President of the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ),

Justice Adrian Saunders

April 12, 2022

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–suggests that this be done before the end of this year

PRESIDENT of the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ), Justice Adrian Saunders, has called for the substantive appointment of a Chancellor of the Judiciary and a Chief Justice before the end of 2022.

read more

@Django posted:

CCJ President calls for appointment of substantive Chancellor, CJ

President of the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ),

Justice Adrian Saunders

April 12, 2022

Source

–suggests that this be done before the end of this year

PRESIDENT of the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ), Justice Adrian Saunders, has called for the substantive appointment of a Chancellor of the Judiciary and a Chief Justice before the end of 2022.

read more

Last week, United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres warned of "the specter of a global food shortage in the coming months" without urgent international action and the appointment of a Chancellor takes precedent.

The position cannot be substantive since Guyana has been functioning without a chancellor.

There is a book " Too many Chiefs and only one Indian."

@Former Member posted:

Of course Mitwah ....  it is well known those were not appointed by Irfaan Ali.  

They were all appointees of the PNCR/APNU/AFC. 

This Forum is very confusing to navigate and not user friendly.  Am about to give up posting.

@Mitwah posted:

This Forum is very confusing to navigate and not user friendly.  Am about to give up posting.

Eh-eh Mitwah .... It is extremely easy to navigate the forum, contrary to your views.

Perhaps then; according to your suggested intention; the forum will be much, much, m-u-c-h better should you leave.

@Former Member, comprehension has never been your forte.

@Mitwah posted:

@Former Member, comprehension has never been your forte.

Eh-eh Mitwah ... you speed-up your return quick, quick, q-u-i-c-k, nah. 

Before toilet paper was invented, Americans used to use corn husks. What did Guyanese use?

@Mitwah posted:

Before toilet paper was invented, Americans used to use corn husks. What did Guyanese use?

Guyanese were using toilet paper; which was used since around the Second Century, BC.

@Mitwah posted:

Before toilet paper was invented, Americans used to use corn husks. What did Guyanese use?

newspaper

@Former Member posted:

newspaper

A bottle of water from the pond!!

we bought 1 newpaper on sundays b this was used to paper our shelves in the kitchen..didnt have enough to wipe our bt ..lol so it was pond water in a large glass bottle.

@Lynn posted:

A bottle of water from the pond!!

we bought 1 newpaper on sundays b this was used to paper our shelves in the kitchen..didnt have enough to wipe our bt ..lol so it was pond water in a large glass bottle.

Sooooo, yuh bt was wiped with the hands and water was then used to wash the hands.  

Norton has to consult AFC before pronouncing on taxing oil companies

Jun 15, 2022 News -- Source -- Kaieteur News Online -- https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...axing-oil-companies/

Kaieteur News – Governments in the United States and other oil producing countries around the world have moved to induce a one-off tax for such companies that have been operating and enjoying increased profits as the cost for oil continues to surge on the global market, largely owing to the war between Russia and Ukraine.

Locally, Vice President Bharrat Jagdeo has confirmed that it is the citizens that forced those countries to slap the one-off taxes on those companies, arguing that this could not be replicated in Guyana since, “we are bound by a PSA (Production Sharing Agreement) with very specific terms on the taxation side.”

Opposition Leader, Aubrey Norton speaking at his press conference on Tuesday.

Leader of the Opposition, Aubrey Norton on the other hand could not definitely say whether he agrees with this policy for the oil companies operating in Guyana, since he must first consult with the Alliance For Change (AFC) on this.

On Tuesday, during the Opposition Leader’s weekly press conference, he was asked by this newspaper to weigh-in on this important fiscal strategy, which could rake in more revenue for Guyana.

According to him, “The government had a glorious opportunity to improve or to work to get more for Guyana. They didn’t utilise that opportunity. My own view is that they should have and they didn’t and if they didn’t, I don’t see them increasing any taxes, etcetera.”

The Opposition Leader was referring to the Liza One Permit renewal, in which experts had advised Guyana to use to get better value for its oil. After explaining that government missed a chance in keeping with the contract to get a better deal, he shared, “there is a lot of space for the government to act to ensure that we benefit more”.

When Norton was pressed by this newspaper to say whether the party supports the one-off tax as instituted in other countries, Norton said, “I believe essentially that the coalition has to review the present situation and then make its position clear. In the PNC, we have a group that is looking at oil, we will engage the AFC and then the APNU+AFC will make a clear pronouncement on the policies and approaches we intend to implement as it relates to the oil and gas sector.”

The United Kingdom recently slapped its oil companies with a one-off windfall tax of 25 percent on all oil companies operating in that jurisdiction in order to also partake in the sweeping profits being had by the operators as a result of the escalating oil price.

Notable, the US is seeking to move in this direction as well, having already hiked its royalty payable by oil companies there to above the 18.75 percent in December last.

Democratic Congressman from the State of California, in the US, Adam Schiff announced two weeks ago that the new legislation to lower gas prices and to bring immediate relief to Americans struggling to pay the out-of-control prices at the pump by instituting a suspension of the federal gas tax.

Schiff, at a press conference to announce the move, said that “for months now, a combination of Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, ongoing supply chain issues, and price gouging by the oil companies have been steadily driving up the price of gasoline to more than US$4.50 a gallon nationwide and more than US$6 a gallon here in Los Angeles.”

According to Schiff, “in spite of this volatility, one thing has remained the same: Big Oil’s skyrocketing profits.”

He posited, “this is exploitation, plain and simple, and it’s unacceptable to all of the people who are having to spend hundreds of dollars more every month just to go about their daily lives, at a time when so many are already struggling to make ends meet.”

The proposed legislation, namely the Federal Gas Tax Suspension and Windfall Profits Tax Act, would suspend the federal gas tax – which currently stands at 18.3 cents per gallon – through December 31, 2023.

It was noted that to ensure the Highway Trust Fund is still robustly funded, the suspension would be paid for through a new 50 percent tax on Big Oil’s windfall profits.

According to Schiff, “we can help bring down the cost of oil by suspending the gas tax and paying for it with a windfall profits tax on oil companies.”

@Former Member posted:

Sooooo, yuh bt was wiped with the hands and water was used to wash the hands.  

Nah..u washed u BT with d watah!! Lol

that is why u called it KAKA hand!! Lol