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The PNCR is a divided and weak party

August 2, 2014 | By | Filed Under Letters 

DEAR EDITOR,
The bitter and angry outcries that rang out at the PNC Congress last weekend have driven the final nail into the party’s chances of defeating the PPP and forming the next government. The PNCR under the leadership of David Granger has blown it.
Charges of rigging elections at the Party Congress are not new. It has happened many times before, but it appears that the current top brass of the PNCR leadership have not learnt anything. The statement that there was no padding of the delegates’ list, rigging of elections or the party is not divided, is not only arrogant, but shows that the leaders are in serious denial.
True or false, the perception that the elections have been rigged has sunk into the minds of the people and become reality.  It also shows that skills are seriously lacking to lead a political organization that depends mostly on volunteers and not military commands. While some diehard PNCR supporters believe that it will take months to repair the damage done at the recently concluded Congress, we beg to differ. Such damage is irreparable, because in terms of rigging elections, the PNCR has always been a suspect, and almost everyone knows it.

The PNCR has lost a golden opportunity to allow democracy to flourish throughout its machinery and thus bolster its image. Moreover, this was Mr. Granger’s last chance to preside over an unblemished Congress and he has failed miserably. Not only that the PNCR needs new leadership but it needs dynamic youthful leaders with the ability to take the fight to the PPP.
What is wrong with the PNCR leaders?  When will they stop the rigging of elections at the Party’s Congress? Where is the unity in the party? Why are the leaders of the PNCR trying to get rid of the young, vivacious and spirited Vanessa Kissoon and others? How can Mr. Granger preach national unity to the country when his own party is deeply divided? Will the people trust him?  It is time for the leaders of the PNCR to face reality and acknowledge that it is a party dominated by senior citizens who are not in touch with the people, especially the youths.
Mr. Aubrey Norton’s bid for the Leadership of the PNCR was forcefully rejected by the party hierarchy, backed by a flawed election process with the intent to safeguard the leadership of Mr. Granger. Why are those who claim to believe in democracy afraid to contest free and fair elections? Why do they continue to support the rigging of elections? The PNC, with a history of elections that were never considered as free and fair by the majority of the people, save and except for the 1964 and 1992 elections, should have been extremely sensitive of this stain on the party’s image. Is it worth destroying the image of the party over a leadership race?

Further, the PNC Congresses since the death of Desmond Hoyte have always had a major question mark over their transparency in the compilation of the delegates’ list. None other than Vincent Alexander, the late Winston Murray and Carl Greenidge highlighted this issue based on their real experiences.  Yet at the recent concluded Congress, there were credible allegations from several key members of the party that bona fide and eligible delegates from Linden were excluded, where challenger Aubrey Norton has his electoral strength.
Why this fear of democracy?  After the splashing of this moral shame all over the press, how can Mr. Granger stand tall and expect the PPP bullies to listen to and respect him. The allegations of padding the delegates’ list or the rigging of elections are very serious and have divided and weakened the PNCR to the point where some of its prospective supporters have bolted.

The PNCR has failed the people, ostracized the faithful from Linden with their vindictive leadership style, disengaged youth, and has now ensured the PPP five more years in power.
Finally, we are telling Mr. Granger that the vast majority of Guyanese are not likely to follow orders from rookie politicians. They are more willing to follow sound, rational and experienced political leaders like Moses Nagamootoo, Carl Greenidge, Joe Harmon and Khemraj Ramjattan because they present a vision for Guyana and they are committed to the people. They put the country first, empathize with the plight of the poor and the working class, and are steadfast in their quest to be their humble servants. They do not mouth-off phrases like “one nation” and “national unity” and not mean one syllable of the phrases.
Time is up for David Granger, Oscar Clarke and others.
Asquith Rose and Harish Singh

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Fruck, that is like an order there from Rose and Singh.

 

Were they the Major Generals when Grainger was the Brigidier?

 

Time is up for David Granger, Oscar Clarke and others.
Asquith Rose and Harish Singh

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:

If Rose and Singh think Granger and Clarke going anywhere then they are beyond being delusional.

I agree with softie Nehru, Rose and Singh are disillusional.  Grainja is a rigger and a rigger is a tief and a tief is a liar and a lair lives off of the people so he is not going anywhere.

 

More pension for Grainja.  $$$$$$

FM
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Originally Posted by Conscience:

The P.N.C is on its last limb...

This is all political play.  The PPP is now actively helping the PNC recover.

 

The PPP orchestrated the bungling of the charges on BIG PURPLE.

 

BIG PURPLE now living in Freedom House.

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The P.N.C is on its last limb...

This is all political play.  The PPP is now actively helping the PNC recover.

 

The PPP orchestrated the bungling of the charges on BIG PURPLE.

 

BIG PURPLE now living in Freedom House.

Correct is right here Kishan, PPP saved BIG purple.  Where is YUJI, refute that statement.

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The P.N.C is on its last limb...

This is all political play.  The PPP is now actively helping the PNC recover.

 

The PPP orchestrated the bungling of the charges on BIG PURPLE.

 

BIG PURPLE now living in Freedom House.

The PNC is not in trouble. If anything, the disgust with the PPP will make them stronger. This internal fighting is not new. It also happened in the PPP and one remembers the deals they had to cut with the Chanderpauls the last go around.

 

The PPP and the PNC have native political base that is grounded on ethnic allegiance. The PPP's base is the one being destabilized as young people who make up the majority of voters do not care for race baiting that is the keystone of the PPP political advocacy. While there will be race based voting the PPP will find some of its base leeched away to the AFC which is a safer ground for conscience voters.

FM

1. If anything, the disgust with the PPP will make them stronger.

2. This (PNC) internal fighting is not new.

 

Stormborn, how do you apply the two statements to justify PNC infighting?

 

A solid foundation is (strong). Internal fighting means (weak).

Please note, I am not against APNU/PNC. I am just making a correction.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

1. If anything, the disgust with the PPP will make them stronger.

2. This (PNC) internal fighting is not new.

 

Stormborn, how do you apply the two statements to justify PNC infighting?

 

A solid foundation is (strong). Internal fighting means (weak).

Please note, I am not against APNU/PNC. I am just making a correction.

Dems and Republicans fight in the open for a whole two years here until one remains standing. That is how it should be. Fighting with fair rules should guide the game in any political system. In ours fighting is seen as bad because we do not have a history of merit over nepotism or fair rules. Moses is out because he was overlooked and set upon by PPP gran dame.

FM

The AFC has to assume the leadership role if the PPP is to be defeated

AUGUST 19, 2014 | BY  | FILED UNDER LETTERS 

DEAR EDITOR,
Significant tales have and continue to be told to the people by the political leaders of the ruling cabal who have clearly used the political system to improve the image and status of their party at the expense of the constituents they serve. These politicians are so dishonest that no one believes them anymore. They have put their interests and those of their relatives and friends first and not the country and the people. They do not deserve another day in office.
The no-confidence motion initiated by the AFC is a welcome relief to the people.  They have had enough. It is not that the PPP does not have honest people in its ranks, but the dishonest have outnumbered and overshadowed those who are honest by a ratio of 10:1, thus dwarfing the party’s abilities to share the resources equally and develop the country in the interests of all.
Nepotism and cronyism are in every government department and agency.
After almost three years in office, the President has not done anything to reduce corruption and crime and has not even fulfilled his promise to grant a TV licence to the people of Linden.
Preservation of the Freedom House faithful has turned the party into a political force that is no longer credible.  We use the word credible since it is our belief that the opposition has a fighting chance to capture the plurality votes from the PPP if they collate.  The ruling cabal is disconnected from the people, especially the youths, and thus would find themselves in opposition at the next election, but this will only happen if commonsense prevails between APNU and the AFC.
But the PNC has done itself in. Its recently concluded Congress proves that the PNC is highly dysfunctional, divided, undisciplined and leaderless. It is not in a position of strength and cannot be taken seriously to lead a coalition to defeat the PPP. The AFC has to assume the leadership role if the PPP is to be defeated at the polls.
Having said that, it would be a grave mistake and great disservice to the people and the country for the opposition to pass the no-confidence motion and contest the election as separate parties. We hope they would put the country and people first and do the right thing.
Asquith Rose and Harish Singh

FM

PPP Executives to formally discuss AFC’s no-confidence motion

 

EXECUTIVES of the ruling People’s Progressive Party (PPP) are expected to formally meet to discuss the no-confidence motion moved against the government by the minority Alliance for Change (AFC) Party and submitted to the National Assembly via its Clerk, Mr. Sherlock Isaacs. This is according to Party General-Secretary, Mr. Clement Rohee at a press briefing yesterday at Freedom House, where, in answer to a particular question on the subject, he said, “Our executives will have to meet and discuss on that.”
The first inkling the public had that the AFC planned moving a no-confidence motion against the Government was way back in mid-June, when Party Vice-Chairman, Mr Moses Nagamootoo hinted at it.
He did so by way of an article published in the Stabroek News and headlined, ‘AFC considering no-confidence motion against Gov’t’. He, however, acknowledged that to do so would require the support of the Main Opposition, A Party for National Unity (APNU).
The AFC finally got its wish on Tuesday, August 5, when APNU Leader, Brigadier (rtd.) David Granger, publicly confirmed that his Party was fully behind the no-confidence motion.
The first page of the Motion reads: “Be it resolved that this National Assembly has no confidence in the Government.”
Last Friday, President Donald Ramotar, rather than commit himself to a definitive answer, simply stated that any decision related to the no-confidence motion, including the possibility of calling snap elections, will be made “at the appropriate time.”
According to the pundits, should snap elections not be called before a debate on the Motion, the current administration is expected to be disbanded in preparation for a return to the polls.
As stated in Section 106 (6) of the Constitution: “The Cabinet and President shall resign, if the Government is defeated by the vote of the majority of all Members of the National Assembly on a vote of confidence.”
This is made even clearer in Section 106 (7), which states: “Notwithstanding its defeat, the Government shall remain in office, and shall hold an election within three months, or such longer period as the National Assembly shall, by resolution, supported by no less than two-thirds of all elected members of the National Assembly, and shall resign after a new President takes the oath of office following the election.”
The last time general elections were held in Guyana was in November 2011.

(Vanessa Narine)

 

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FM

After all the shouts of "Bring it on, you opposition punks", the opposition brought it on... watch those guys squeal now.

 

 

Dem boys pacing at Freedumb Outhouse mumbling, "Ohhh what can we buy the people with, hmmmm, four wheel offroad vehicle, hmmm ammm, new shed, a chain saw, ammmmmm, free red t shirt an BBQ chicken. hmm??"

cain
Originally Posted by Conscience:

PPP Executives to formally discuss AFC’s no-confidence motion

 

EXECUTIVES of the ruling People’s Progressive Party (PPP) are expected to formally meet to discuss the no-confidence motion moved against the government by the minority Alliance for Change (AFC) Party and submitted to the National Assembly via its Clerk, Mr. Sherlock Isaacs. This is according to Party General-Secretary, Mr. Clement Rohee at a press briefing yesterday at Freedom House, where, in answer to a particular question on the subject, he said, “Our executives will have to meet and discuss on that.”
The first inkling the public had that the AFC planned moving a no-confidence motion against the Government was way back in mid-June, when Party Vice-Chairman, Mr Moses Nagamootoo hinted at it.
He did so by way of an article published in the Stabroek News and headlined, ‘AFC considering no-confidence motion against Gov’t’. He, however, acknowledged that to do so would require the support of the Main Opposition, A Party for National Unity (APNU).
The AFC finally got its wish on Tuesday, August 5, when APNU Leader, Brigadier (rtd.) David Granger, publicly confirmed that his Party was fully behind the no-confidence motion.
The first page of the Motion reads: “Be it resolved that this National Assembly has no confidence in the Government.”
Last Friday, President Donald Ramotar, rather than commit himself to a definitive answer, simply stated that any decision related to the no-confidence motion, including the possibility of calling snap elections, will be made “at the appropriate time.”
According to the pundits, should snap elections not be called before a debate on the Motion, the current administration is expected to be disbanded in preparation for a return to the polls.
As stated in Section 106 (6) of the Constitution: “The Cabinet and President shall resign, if the Government is defeated by the vote of the majority of all Members of the National Assembly on a vote of confidence.”
This is made even clearer in Section 106 (7), which states: “Notwithstanding its defeat, the Government shall remain in office, and shall hold an election within three months, or such longer period as the National Assembly shall, by resolution, supported by no less than two-thirds of all elected members of the National Assembly, and shall resign after a new President takes the oath of office following the election.”
The last time general elections were held in Guyana was in November 2011.

(Vanessa Narine)

 

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I thought the PPP was already for this political battle.  Now they running to discuss?

 

LOL

FM

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