The PPP violently dealt with Indians who didn’t support the PPP

You are the living testimony that this is not true.  What advice you have on that?

This is an idiotic comment by Alexander who is now hyperactive about any criticism of his government. These are obscure Indian names he is pulling from nowhere...the point is that the coalition should be focusing on bridging the gap between the races and creating an inclusive government. Its like the PNC never killed off Africans like Rodney who opposed the government. When it comes to violence, the PNC takes the cake.

If they are not trying to bridge the racial gap, they they cant complain that the PPP is going to take care of Indians who feels this government does not cater to their interests.

This is another stupid outburst to take a cheap shot at the PPP.     

Bibi Haniffa posted:

You are the living testimony that this is not true.  What advice you have on that?

All that writing by Alexander to refute Ramotar's correct that having peoples' names on their test paper can influence how they are graded. Guyana has not matured past party, religious or race perks so to suggest the implementation of names on test papers is short sighted. Unless the suspected objective is true.

Malcolm Harripaul also gave a similar account of the way the PPP deals with Indians who do not support them.

PPP’S ARSON AND MURDERS IN CANALS POLDER AFTER 1973 ELECTIONS 
guyanaobservernews.com | Friday, 18 March 2011 
By Malcolm harripaul
 
The PPP’s General Secretary on Sat 03-12-11 stated that the party fully supported the utterances that President Jagdeo made at the 1997 cremation site of Dr Cheddi Jagan at Babu John, Port Mourant. The President had then called on “old party faithfuls” to educate the young people about the 1973 elections. I was a PPP activist in the late 1970’s on the West Bank Demerara and I will now tell the youths about the PPP’s arson and murders in the Canals Polder after the elections. I was 13 years old and living at Bagotville when the elections took place.  I consulted a few of my school friends who are older than I am, and who lived in Canal # 1 and 2 during the elections.

There lived in Canal # 2 a few Indian supporters of the PNC. After the close of poll and the security forces had escorted the elections officials and ballot boxes out of the area, about fifty PPP supporters had gathered at a point. Upon the instigation of trained PPP cadres they moved to the home of Mr Jainandan Singh and proceeded to stone his house. They then made their way to the home of a man who was known as Body Jar and stoned his house too. All the windows of both houses were broken. As they threw stones at the windows they shouted in chorus, “Vote PPP! Vote PPP! Vote PPP.”
 
As a result of the thrashing of the homes, the police placed guards at night at both sites to protect the families. Police Constable Malcolm Caryl aged 23 was placed at Singh’s home, and Police Constable Michael Earl Robinson aged 21 was stationed at Jar’s home. One week after the elections PPP cadres sent a gang of PPP supporters to kill PC Robinson. They surprised him, over powered him, relieved him of his service revolver, and dragged him to the canal where they held his head under water until he died. That was cold blooded murder.
 
A day later, during broad daylight when no police was on guard and no one was at home, a gang of PPP supporters walked into Singh’s house and set it ablaze. The house was completely burned out. PC Caryl was redeployed to guard Jar’s home. He was surprised by a gang, but he was a weight lifter and managed to free himself from his attackers. The pitch dark conditions aided his escape. They did manage to steal his service revolver.
 
Inspector Gomes from West Demerara  Divisional HQ headed the investigations into the crimes. He detained and charged several PPP supporters. They were arraigned at Wales Magistrate Court and the PPP provided lawyers for their defence. However no eyewitness was willing to testify in court and the men were freed.
 
Over at Canal # 1, the few Indian supporters of the PNC were also targeted. Their houses were stoned, their farms were set afire, and their cattle were chopped up. One person, Mr Ganpat, was singled out for death. He was shot to death at the back of his house. A well known PPP activist openly bragged that  Mr Ganpat was shot while he was brushing his teeth. This activist was eventually detained by the police, but there was no eye witness to the murder, and no charges were brought against him. This activist became one of Janet Jagan’s “party children.” He is now deceased. I will not name him out of respect for his wife and children.
 
The killing of PC Robinson caused tensions between Africans and Indians. A police detail headed by Insp Belgrave was deployed at Stanleytown to prevent African retaliation. In Canal # 1 people were being told by PPP cadres that Jagan would build a highway through Cameron Dam so the residents of Canal # 2 would not have to pass through Stanleytown. It was also being said that a highway would be built from Canal # 1 to Anna Catherina on the West Coast Demerara so Indians would not have to pass through Bagotville. The PPP cadres also told people that Jagan had his army encamped at Boerasarie and that it was awaiting “Cuban soldiers” before they declared war.
 
Although the above stories of arson and murder were published in the newspapers of the day, Guyanese do not hear of them because the PPP’s propaganda machinery has been very successful in turning national attention to the shooting incident at Number 64 Village where, at night, PPP supporters blocked a small 5 man unit made up of soldiers and policemen. GDF Lt Henry fired a few shots to extricate his men. Just imagined what would have happened had the PPP supporters over powered the soldiers and took possession of the weapons. The PPP acted recklessly when it told its supporters to block the security forces.

Malcolm Harripaul .

Malcolm Harripaul is all over the place preaching with 50 different sides of his mouth. When he was with ROAR he claimed he was tortured by the PNC gov't. Now he is with APNU he is preaching something else.

Mars posted:

Malcolm Harripaul also gave a similar account of the way the PPP deals with Indians who do not support them.

 

PPP’S ARSON AND MURDERS IN CANALS POLDER AFTER 1973 ELECTIONS 
guyanaobservernews.com | Friday, 18 March 2011 
By Malcolm harripaul
 
The PPP’s General Secretary on Sat 03-12-11 stated that the party fully supported the utterances that President Jagdeo made at the 1997 cremation site of Dr Cheddi Jagan at Babu John, Port Mourant. The President had then called on “old party faithfuls” to educate the young people about the 1973 elections. I was a PPP activist in the late 1970’s on the West Bank Demerara and I will now tell the youths about the PPP’s arson and murders in the Canals Polder after the elections. I was 13 years old and living at Bagotville when the elections took place.  I consulted a few of my school friends who are older than I am, and who lived in Canal # 1 and 2 during the elections.

There lived in Canal # 2 a few Indian supporters of the PNC. After the close of poll and the security forces had escorted the elections officials and ballot boxes out of the area, about fifty PPP supporters had gathered at a point. Upon the instigation of trained PPP cadres they moved to the home of Mr Jainandan Singh and proceeded to stone his house. They then made their way to the home of a man who was known as Body Jar and stoned his house too. All the windows of both houses were broken. As they threw stones at the windows they shouted in chorus, “Vote PPP! Vote PPP! Vote PPP.”
 
As a result of the thrashing of the homes, the police placed guards at night at both sites to protect the families. Police Constable Malcolm Caryl aged 23 was placed at Singh’s home, and Police Constable Michael Earl Robinson aged 21 was stationed at Jar’s home. One week after the elections PPP cadres sent a gang of PPP supporters to kill PC Robinson. They surprised him, over powered him, relieved him of his service revolver, and dragged him to the canal where they held his head under water until he died. That was cold blooded murder.
 
A day later, during broad daylight when no police was on guard and no one was at home, a gang of PPP supporters walked into Singh’s house and set it ablaze. The house was completely burned out. PC Caryl was redeployed to guard Jar’s home. He was surprised by a gang, but he was a weight lifter and managed to free himself from his attackers. The pitch dark conditions aided his escape. They did manage to steal his service revolver.
 
Inspector Gomes from West Demerara  Divisional HQ headed the investigations into the crimes. He detained and charged several PPP supporters. They were arraigned at Wales Magistrate Court and the PPP provided lawyers for their defence. However no eyewitness was willing to testify in court and the men were freed.
 
Over at Canal # 1, the few Indian supporters of the PNC were also targeted. Their houses were stoned, their farms were set afire, and their cattle were chopped up. One person, Mr Ganpat, was singled out for death. He was shot to death at the back of his house. A well known PPP activist openly bragged that  Mr Ganpat was shot while he was brushing his teeth. This activist was eventually detained by the police, but there was no eye witness to the murder, and no charges were brought against him. This activist became one of Janet Jagan’s “party children.” He is now deceased. I will not name him out of respect for his wife and children.
 
The killing of PC Robinson caused tensions between Africans and Indians. A police detail headed by Insp Belgrave was deployed at Stanleytown to prevent African retaliation. In Canal # 1 people were being told by PPP cadres that Jagan would build a highway through Cameron Dam so the residents of Canal # 2 would not have to pass through Stanleytown. It was also being said that a highway would be built from Canal # 1 to Anna Catherina on the West Coast Demerara so Indians would not have to pass through Bagotville. The PPP cadres also told people that Jagan had his army encamped at Boerasarie and that it was awaiting “Cuban soldiers” before they declared war.
 
Although the above stories of arson and murder were published in the newspapers of the day, Guyanese do not hear of them because the PPP’s propaganda machinery has been very successful in turning national attention to the shooting incident at Number 64 Village where, at night, PPP supporters blocked a small 5 man unit made up of soldiers and policemen. GDF Lt Henry fired a few shots to extricate his men. Just imagined what would have happened had the PPP supporters over powered the soldiers and took possession of the weapons. The PPP acted recklessly when it told its supporters to block the security forces.

Malcolm Harripaul .

Knucklehead, 

I dont know who this Malcolm Harripaul is, but you are quoting him as an authoritative source.

The point about the PNC having a more violent past is established with the number of political assassinations that took place under Burnham.

VishMahabir posted:

Knucklehead, 

I dont know who this Malcolm Harripaul is, but you are quoting him as an authoritative source.

The point about the PNC having a more violent past is established with the number of political assassinations that took place under Burnham.

Malcolm Harripaul is a popular fella he was with PPP,ROAR and an ex GDF Soldier.

VishMahabir posted:

Mars posted:

Malcolm Harripaul also gave a similar account of the way the PPP deals with Indians who do not support them.

 

PPP’S ARSON AND MURDERS IN CANALS POLDER AFTER 1973 ELECTIONS 
guyanaobservernews.com | Friday, 18 March 2011 
By Malcolm harripaul
 
The PPP’s General Secretary on Sat 03-12-11 stated that the party fully supported the utterances that President Jagdeo made at the 1997 cremation site of Dr Cheddi Jagan at Babu John, Port Mourant. The President had then called on “old party faithfuls” to educate the young people about the 1973 elections. I was a PPP activist in the late 1970’s on the West Bank Demerara and I will now tell the youths about the PPP’s arson and murders in the Canals Polder after the elections. I was 13 years old and living at Bagotville when the elections took place.  I consulted a few of my school friends who are older than I am, and who lived in Canal # 1 and 2 during the elections.

There lived in Canal # 2 a few Indian supporters of the PNC. After the close of poll and the security forces had escorted the elections officials and ballot boxes out of the area, about fifty PPP supporters had gathered at a point. Upon the instigation of trained PPP cadres they moved to the home of Mr Jainandan Singh and proceeded to stone his house. They then made their way to the home of a man who was known as Body Jar and stoned his house too. All the windows of both houses were broken. As they threw stones at the windows they shouted in chorus, “Vote PPP! Vote PPP! Vote PPP.”
 
As a result of the thrashing of the homes, the police placed guards at night at both sites to protect the families. Police Constable Malcolm Caryl aged 23 was placed at Singh’s home, and Police Constable Michael Earl Robinson aged 21 was stationed at Jar’s home. One week after the elections PPP cadres sent a gang of PPP supporters to kill PC Robinson. They surprised him, over powered him, relieved him of his service revolver, and dragged him to the canal where they held his head under water until he died. That was cold blooded murder.
 
A day later, during broad daylight when no police was on guard and no one was at home, a gang of PPP supporters walked into Singh’s house and set it ablaze. The house was completely burned out. PC Caryl was redeployed to guard Jar’s home. He was surprised by a gang, but he was a weight lifter and managed to free himself from his attackers. The pitch dark conditions aided his escape. They did manage to steal his service revolver.
 
Inspector Gomes from West Demerara  Divisional HQ headed the investigations into the crimes. He detained and charged several PPP supporters. They were arraigned at Wales Magistrate Court and the PPP provided lawyers for their defence. However no eyewitness was willing to testify in court and the men were freed.
 
Over at Canal # 1, the few Indian supporters of the PNC were also targeted. Their houses were stoned, their farms were set afire, and their cattle were chopped up. One person, Mr Ganpat, was singled out for death. He was shot to death at the back of his house. A well known PPP activist openly bragged that  Mr Ganpat was shot while he was brushing his teeth. This activist was eventually detained by the police, but there was no eye witness to the murder, and no charges were brought against him. This activist became one of Janet Jagan’s “party children.” He is now deceased. I will not name him out of respect for his wife and children.
 
The killing of PC Robinson caused tensions between Africans and Indians. A police detail headed by Insp Belgrave was deployed at Stanleytown to prevent African retaliation. In Canal # 1 people were being told by PPP cadres that Jagan would build a highway through Cameron Dam so the residents of Canal # 2 would not have to pass through Stanleytown. It was also being said that a highway would be built from Canal # 1 to Anna Catherina on the West Coast Demerara so Indians would not have to pass through Bagotville. The PPP cadres also told people that Jagan had his army encamped at Boerasarie and that it was awaiting “Cuban soldiers” before they declared war.
 
Although the above stories of arson and murder were published in the newspapers of the day, Guyanese do not hear of them because the PPP’s propaganda machinery has been very successful in turning national attention to the shooting incident at Number 64 Village where, at night, PPP supporters blocked a small 5 man unit made up of soldiers and policemen. GDF Lt Henry fired a few shots to extricate his men. Just imagined what would have happened had the PPP supporters over powered the soldiers and took possession of the weapons. The PPP acted recklessly when it told its supporters to block the security forces.

Malcolm Harripaul .

Knucklehead, 

I dont know who this Malcolm Harripaul is, but you are quoting him as an authoritative source.

The point about the PNC having a more violent past is established with the number of political assassinations that took place under Burnham.

Numbnuts, you are obviously lacking in English comprehension skills. Malcolm Harripaul has been around as a political activist for a long time in Guyana. If you never heard of him then you must be out of touch with the political scene in Guyana. Did I say that he's an authoritative source? There were a lot more state sponsored assassinations by the murderous PPP cabal via their Phantom Death Squad.

Mars posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Mars posted:

Malcolm Harripaul also gave a similar account of the way the PPP deals with Indians who do not support them.

 

PPP’S ARSON AND MURDERS IN CANALS POLDER AFTER 1973 ELECTIONS 
guyanaobservernews.com | Friday, 18 March 2011 
By Malcolm harripaul
 
The PPP’s General Secretary on Sat 03-12-11 stated that the party fully supported the utterances that President Jagdeo made at the 1997 cremation site of Dr Cheddi Jagan at Babu John, Port Mourant. The President had then called on “old party faithfuls” to educate the young people about the 1973 elections. I was a PPP activist in the late 1970’s on the West Bank Demerara and I will now tell the youths about the PPP’s arson and murders in the Canals Polder after the elections. I was 13 years old and living at Bagotville when the elections took place.  I consulted a few of my school friends who are older than I am, and who lived in Canal # 1 and 2 during the elections.

There lived in Canal # 2 a few Indian supporters of the PNC. After the close of poll and the security forces had escorted the elections officials and ballot boxes out of the area, about fifty PPP supporters had gathered at a point. Upon the instigation of trained PPP cadres they moved to the home of Mr Jainandan Singh and proceeded to stone his house. They then made their way to the home of a man who was known as Body Jar and stoned his house too. All the windows of both houses were broken. As they threw stones at the windows they shouted in chorus, “Vote PPP! Vote PPP! Vote PPP.”
 
As a result of the thrashing of the homes, the police placed guards at night at both sites to protect the families. Police Constable Malcolm Caryl aged 23 was placed at Singh’s home, and Police Constable Michael Earl Robinson aged 21 was stationed at Jar’s home. One week after the elections PPP cadres sent a gang of PPP supporters to kill PC Robinson. They surprised him, over powered him, relieved him of his service revolver, and dragged him to the canal where they held his head under water until he died. That was cold blooded murder.
 
A day later, during broad daylight when no police was on guard and no one was at home, a gang of PPP supporters walked into Singh’s house and set it ablaze. The house was completely burned out. PC Caryl was redeployed to guard Jar’s home. He was surprised by a gang, but he was a weight lifter and managed to free himself from his attackers. The pitch dark conditions aided his escape. They did manage to steal his service revolver.
 
Inspector Gomes from West Demerara  Divisional HQ headed the investigations into the crimes. He detained and charged several PPP supporters. They were arraigned at Wales Magistrate Court and the PPP provided lawyers for their defence. However no eyewitness was willing to testify in court and the men were freed.
 
Over at Canal # 1, the few Indian supporters of the PNC were also targeted. Their houses were stoned, their farms were set afire, and their cattle were chopped up. One person, Mr Ganpat, was singled out for death. He was shot to death at the back of his house. A well known PPP activist openly bragged that  Mr Ganpat was shot while he was brushing his teeth. This activist was eventually detained by the police, but there was no eye witness to the murder, and no charges were brought against him. This activist became one of Janet Jagan’s “party children.” He is now deceased. I will not name him out of respect for his wife and children.
 
The killing of PC Robinson caused tensions between Africans and Indians. A police detail headed by Insp Belgrave was deployed at Stanleytown to prevent African retaliation. In Canal # 1 people were being told by PPP cadres that Jagan would build a highway through Cameron Dam so the residents of Canal # 2 would not have to pass through Stanleytown. It was also being said that a highway would be built from Canal # 1 to Anna Catherina on the West Coast Demerara so Indians would not have to pass through Bagotville. The PPP cadres also told people that Jagan had his army encamped at Boerasarie and that it was awaiting “Cuban soldiers” before they declared war.
 
Although the above stories of arson and murder were published in the newspapers of the day, Guyanese do not hear of them because the PPP’s propaganda machinery has been very successful in turning national attention to the shooting incident at Number 64 Village where, at night, PPP supporters blocked a small 5 man unit made up of soldiers and policemen. GDF Lt Henry fired a few shots to extricate his men. Just imagined what would have happened had the PPP supporters over powered the soldiers and took possession of the weapons. The PPP acted recklessly when it told its supporters to block the security forces.

Malcolm Harripaul .

Knucklehead, 

I dont know who this Malcolm Harripaul is, but you are quoting him as an authoritative source.

The point about the PNC having a more violent past is established with the number of political assassinations that took place under Burnham.

Numbnuts, you are obviously lacking in English comprehension skills. Malcolm Harripaul has been around as a political activist for a long time in Guyana. If you never heard of him then you must be out of touch with the political scene in Guyana. Did I say that he's an authoritative source? There were a lot more state sponsored assassinations by the murderous PPP cabal via their Phantom Death Squad.

Thanks for the video clip. I will check it out. Who is Malcom working for now?

Vish

VishMahabir posted:

 

Thanks for the video clip. I will check it out. Who is Malcom working for now?

Vish

You have to thank Django for the video. Harripaul started out with the PPP moved to ROAR and I think he's currently a Coalition supporter.

Alexander is partly right. Not only PNC Indian supporters were under attack but Indian supporters of other parties and anti-Jagan fractions like supporters of Rai, kumar, Moses Bhagwan and others. Mrs Janet was a great woman but I disagree with her thinking when it was decided that Roar should be attacked because it was a creation of Rai relative Dev or when the decision was made to destroy Joey Jagan because he was termed a traitor. Nothing gets me more angry to see a Guyanese East Indian fight against another Guyanese East Indian.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

You are the living testimony that this is not true.  What advice you have on that?

Ravi Dev spoke of being harassed in 2001 when the PPP was terrified that he would split the Indian vote.  There was an incident when PPP hooligans, knowing full well that he was not at home, surrounded his house, and threatened his wife and children.

I have no doubt that many AFC Indians would claim the same treatment last year before the elections.

The PPP has engaged in the same levels of violence, as did the PNC in Burnham's era.  At times even using the SAME characters.  So its truly hypocritical the way that they still think that they can wrap themselves as innocent, without looking foolish.

VishMahabir posted:

This is an idiotic comment by Alexander

Ravi Dev was harassed when the PPP thought that ROAR was a threat to them.  Bet you that other names pop up.

Now go and genuflect to the PPP and proclaim them saints, but just know that the rest of us will be laughing at that foolish behavior.

The mere fact that the PPP used thugs like Kwame, Lumumba, Joe Hamilton, and others, should show you their true nature.  Hoyte arrested some of Burnham's thugs.  Janet freed them.

VishMahabir posted:

. Its like the PNC never killed off Africans like Rodney who opposed the government.      

He did admit that there was African violence directed towards PPP Africans.

It is YOU who look idiotic by pretending as if the PPP didn't similarly intimidate Indians, who they felt threatened their hegemony.

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Malcolm Harripaul is all over the place preaching with 50 different sides of his mouth. When he was with ROAR he claimed he was tortured by the PNC gov't. Now he is with APNU he is preaching something else.

And he well could have been tortured by the PNC, presumably when he was with the PPP, or some other outlet, and by the PPP when he was with ROAR, and then the AFC.

The PPP are a criminal enterprise, and those who deny this are idiots!

Prashad posted:

Alexander is partly right. Not only PNC Indian supporters were under attack but Indian supporters of other parties and anti-Jagan fractions like supporters of Rai, kumar, Moses Bhagwan and others. Mrs Janet was a great woman but I disagree with her thinking when it was decided that Roar should be attacked because it was a creation of Rai relative Dev or when the decision was made to destroy Joey Jagan because he was termed a traitor. Nothing gets me more angry to see a Guyanese East Indian fight against another Guyanese East Indian.

Glad that you admit that the PPP was violent against ROAR in 2001, when they feared that ROAR would split the vote.

You, being an "honorable" member of the brown bai KKK, cannot be attacked by them.