Keith posted:

antabanta posted:

 

And why should people support the place of worship, pay the mortgages, utilities, and for repair of the church? What do the people gain from supporting the church?

We all cannot assemble at your house to be taught God word for our spiritual growth due to the capacity of what the fire marshal permits. Therefore the need came about to build places of worship;

There is an intersection in North West Miami near the county line with Broward County were there are four churches at the four corners. Is it reasonable to think that there is a need for all four of these churches at that intersection. Oh, by the way, there are a few more just a few minutes walk from them. There is another stretch near the Palmetto Highway in North West Miami between 37th and 47th Avenue where almost every bay is a ministry. Is it reasonable to think that these are also needed to satisfy your suggestion above. It is widely known that these churches are only open a few hours on Sundays or Saturdays and closed for most of every week.

Ordinary American citizen doan have access to Saudi money.

Suh now yuh want to chastise the people for their churches.

Are you working for Satan?

seignet posted:

I refer you to 1 Corinthians 2:9 

For those who love God, honour opens His store house.

God know the heart and He says it is a place of love and hate. He certainly will know the real intent of the heart.

Take ur heart for example, it expresses your sentiments towards those who freely give of their money and time. Why you would be upset about that only the Almighty knows the real reason. Only you can come up with idea that people can bribe God. He ain a Guyanese politicans yuh know, though they temporay live in the clouds. 

Nobody stopping you to storeup your bounty in the wharehouse you can build. Others build churches and support Churches to spread the teachings of a righteous living. And God has a real great big store house fuh dem.

These people who freely give of their time and money are like Joel Osteen? I repeat.... You do understand that this is about religious leaders exploiting the fears of the layman for financial gain... right? Would you have us believe that you're not aware of this industry?

You outlined the conditions for giving, not I.

Why do people need blessings?

seignet posted:

Ordinary American citizen doan have access to Saudi money.

Suh now yuh want to chastise the people for their churches.

Are you working for Satan?

 

 

In your feeble mind, anyone who raises a voice against the exploitation is working for the imaginary Satan.

antabanta posted:

seignet posted:

I refer you to 1 Corinthians 2:9 

For those who love God, honour opens His store house.

God know the heart and He says it is a place of love and hate. He certainly will know the real intent of the heart.

Take ur heart for example, it expresses your sentiments towards those who freely give of their money and time. Why you would be upset about that only the Almighty knows the real reason. Only you can come up with idea that people can bribe God. He ain a Guyanese politicans yuh know, though they temporay live in the clouds. 

Nobody stopping you to storeup your bounty in the wharehouse you can build. Others build churches and support Churches to spread the teachings of a righteous living. And God has a real great big store house fuh dem.

These people who freely give of their time and money are like Joel Osteen? I repeat.... You do understand that this is about religious leaders exploiting the fears of the layman for financial gain... right? Would you have us believe that you're not aware of this industry?

You outlined the conditions for giving, not I.

Why do people need blessings?

If a giver is never in want, then he doan care what the pastor does with the tithes. The giver knows in the end, God going to deal with it.

U need to get head around that.

antabanta posted:

seignet posted:

Ordinary American citizen doan have access to Saudi money.

Suh now yuh want to chastise the people for their churches.

Are you working for Satan?

 

 

In your feeble mind, anyone who raises a voice against the exploitation is working for the imaginary Satan.

He nah doing dat. He dislike Christ and the followers of Christ. A church building is a definite problem for him.

Satan is not imginary, you doing exactly wah is said about the devil. Attack the Church-hope you understand what I mean about the church.

antabanta posted:

seignet posted:

For those who have untold wealth, the more they give the more they are blessed with increases, not only money, but in good health and the joy of comfort in family. 

Those who hold the places of priests and uses the gifts to the Lord for ungodly means, they will not escape his wrath when judgement comes. 

They condemn themselves. The Bible has instances where it occurs. 

Unscrupulous ppl been around for ages. 

Aha! So there is a condition to giving. Bear with me, brother while I slowly gain understanding. So... the condition to giving is that you receive something in return, blessings, and the amount of these blessings is proportionate to how much you give? And why do you need blessings?

I think you take your blessings to the grocery store and explain to them it's from God and you get free groceries.

seignet posted

 

If a giver is never in want, then he doan care what the pastor does with the tithes. The giver knows in the end, God going to deal with it.

 

Swaggart and others like him are perfectly happy that the givers of tithes don't care that they are giving their tithes to their hookers.

The TBN leader allegedly paid off a young man who he was allegedly buggering. That was most likely paid for by tithes.

The common understanding of what it means to be blessed by God is that He gives us good things. In this respect, we can say that God’s blessing is on everyone, believers and unbelievers alike. Matthew 5:45 says that the Father who is in the heavens causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and unjust.

But does God’s blessing pertain only to material things? NO. Though these are included, thinking of God’s blessing as mainly material things severely limits our understanding of what is in God’s heart for us. Surely we should be thankful for the material things the Lord gives us. But we’re truly blessed when we experience Christ as our love, our peace, our patience, our satisfaction, our joy, and so many other aspects of Himself. We are bless just seeing another day.

In an earlier post we talk about prosperity preaching as we can see the  shift from truth to error can be subtle, and some well-meaning preachers have been caught up in it, not my place to name names. I more rather we must be careful not to judge a preacher’s entire message by only one or two sermons. However, when blatant prosperity preaching dominates a speaker’s platform, this is merely an attempt to make greed and materialism sound spiritual. Ephesians 5:5 has strong words for greedy people: "For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person such a person is an idolater has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God." While we should ask God to provide for our needs and expect Him to do so (Philippians 4:19), Jesus warned us not to stockpile earthly wealth. Rather, we should store up treasure in heaven (Luke 12:33).

The imbalanced focus of prosperity preachers on earthy treasure is in direct contrast to the many passages that warn us not to desire riches (Proverbs 28:22; 2 Timothy 3:2; Hebrews 13:5). First Timothy 6:8–10 speaks directly to this kind of teaching: “But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.” When earthly wealth is our focus, we are not following the teachings of Scripture.

People are becoming biblically illiterate and are thus easily swayed by preachers who appear to know Scripture but who are perverting it to make it sound more appealing. These preachers are attracting huge crowds, just as Jesus did when He fed the thousands (Matthew 14:21), healed the sick (Mark 1:34), and performed miracles (John 6:2). But when Jesus began to teach the hard truths of the gospel, "many of his disciples turned away and no longer followed him" (John 6:66). Waning popularity did not cause Jesus to water down His message. He continued to teach truth whether people liked it or not (John 8:29). Likewise, Paul exonerated himself before the Ephesians with these words: "Therefore I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all, or I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God" (Acts 20:26–27). If today’s prosperity teachers would follow the patterns of Jesus and Paul, they could be confident that their works will not be burned up on judgment day (1 Corinthians 3:12–15).

seignet posted:

antabanta posted

 

These people who freely give of their time and money are like Joel Osteen? I repeat.... You do understand that this is about religious leaders exploiting the fears of the layman for financial gain... right? Would you have us believe that you're not aware of this industry?

You outlined the conditions for giving, not I.

Why do people need blessings?

If a giver is never in want, then he doan care what the pastor does with the tithes. The giver knows in the end, God going to deal with it.

U need to get head around that.

Get your head around this .... that, what you posted above God dealing with these con men, is the best part of the scam!

seignet posted:

antabanta posted:

seignet posted:

Ordinary American citizen doan have access to Saudi money.

Suh now yuh want to chastise the people for their churches.

Are you working for Satan?

 

 

In your feeble mind, anyone who raises a voice against the exploitation is working for the imaginary Satan.

He nah doing dat. He dislike Christ and the followers of Christ. A church building is a definite problem for him.

Satan is not imginary, you doing exactly wah is said about the devil. Attack the Church-hope you understand what I mean about the church.

Am I attacking the church? That's right, anyone who questions the requirement for blind faith is doing the imaginary satan's work. That's another part of the scam!

Keith posted:

The common understanding of what it means to be blessed by God is that He gives us good things. In this respect, we can say that God’s blessing is on everyone, believers and unbelievers alike. Matthew 5:45 says that the Father who is in the heavens causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and unjust.

But does God’s blessing pertain only to material things? NO. Though these are included, thinking of God’s blessing as mainly material things severely limits our understanding of what is in God’s heart for us. Surely we should be thankful for the material things the Lord gives us. But we’re truly blessed when we experience Christ as our love, our peace, our patience, our satisfaction, our joy, and so many other aspects of Himself. We are bless just seeing another day.

Why should we be thankful and why are we blessed?

I will give a scam answer.

We should be thankful that we are blessed and blessed because we are thankful.

Deep, real deep stuff banna.

cain posted:

I will give a scam answer.

We should be thankful that we are blessed and blessed because we are thankful.

Deep, real deep stuff banna.

If I may add to those words above.

"We should be thankful that we are blessed to see what you intend to make foolishness of, God make wise and blessed because we are thankful that God can take the foolishness and make it wise."

Have you given thought to what you wrote before the added words? The Lord use people in mysterious ways.

Deep, real deeper stuff banna 

Keith posted:

cain posted:

I will give a scam answer.

We should be thankful that we are blessed and blessed because we are thankful.

Deep, real deep stuff banna.

If I may add to those words above.

"We should be thankful that we are blessed to see what you intend to make foolishness of, God make wise and blessed because we are thankful that God can take the foolishness and make it wise."

Have you given thought to what you wrote before the added words? The Lord use people in mysterious ways.

Deep, real deeper stuff banna 

So what's the answer? Why should we be thankful and why are we blessed?

antabanta posted:

Keith posted:

cain posted:

I will give a scam answer.

We should be thankful that we are blessed and blessed because we are thankful.

Deep, real deep stuff banna.

If I may add to those words above.

"We should be thankful that we are blessed to see what you intend to make foolishness of, God make wise and blessed because we are thankful that God can take the foolishness and make it wise."

Have you given thought to what you wrote before the added words? The Lord use people in mysterious ways.

Deep, real deeper stuff banna 

So what's the answer? Why should we be thankful and why are we blessed?

You awoke up and you are alive and well this morning, right? Then you are blessed; think of countless others who didn't live to see this day....But you did, then be thankful and give God praise \0/ 

Keith posted:

antabanta posted:

So what's the answer? Why should we be thankful and why are we blessed?

You awoke up and you are alive and well this morning, right? Then you are blessed; think of countless others who didn't live to see this day....But you did, then be thankful and give God praise \0/ 

Why am I blessed for being alive and well? Haven't those who did not live to see this day moved on to the after life? Are you saying that there is no after life or that there is nothing blessed about the after life?

antabanta posted:

seignet posted:

antabanta posted

 

These people who freely give of their time and money are like Joel Osteen? I repeat.... You do understand that this is about religious leaders exploiting the fears of the layman for financial gain... right? Would you have us believe that you're not aware of this industry?

You outlined the conditions for giving, not I.

Why do people need blessings?

If a giver is never in want, then he doan care what the pastor does with the tithes. The giver knows in the end, God going to deal with it.

U need to get head around that.

Get your head around this .... that, what you posted above God dealing with these con men, is the best part of the scam!

Wah happen star? Like you see the light.