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The cowing of police and prison officers led to the tragic events of July 9.

July 12, 2017 Source

Dear Editor,

On July 9, 2017, we experienced the worst jailbreak and destruction of the jail in our history. The whole prison in Camp Street was destroyed by arson. The Officers Club, across the street from the prison, was also razed to the ground. Many very dangerous criminals escaped. It was not just the worst incident in Guyana, but the worst in the English-speaking Caribbean.

If we look at the behaviour of the APNU regime since it took power in May 2015, then, we can see that that was an incident waiting to happen. This regime, from its very inception, gave the impression of being soft on crime and criminals. Recall that the Granger administration, almost as soon as its term commenced, began pardoning criminals, releasing many back into the society.

Despite many criticisms and cautions by knowledgeable persons, the process continued. There is no evidence that those released went through any serious rehabilitation programmes.

Some of the crimes that this regime speaks about as not being serious include stealing of cell phones. Yet, we know that Sheema Mangar of East Coast of Demerara was murdered for her phone and that crime remains unsolved. The parents of Ms Mangar continue to grieve the loss of their precious daughter because of a cell phone theft.

Criminals, sensing this sympathy of the regime, began to push for more concessions. More skirmishes began to take place in the Camp Street jail. Police and prison officers began to take less forceful positions in relation to criminals. No doubt, taking heed of the attitude of the regime to crime and the criminals, many appear to believe that they could get into trouble if they took a hard stance against the criminals.

On March 3, 2016, we had a major riot in the Camp Street prison. Many persons, unfortunately, lost their lives.  There was a fire, set by some of the prisoners, which killed their fellow inmates.  Officers were injured. On March 4, 2016, two very senior Ministers of the government, Messrs Joseph Harmon and Khemraj Ramjattan, went to the prison to meet with the inmates. Not a word in solidarity with the prison officers whose work is so important in keeping our society safe.

Indeed, former Minister of Home Affairs Mr Clement Rohee, had cautioned the government to be careful with their actions, least it be interpreted by the prisoners that the government was tolerant of their behaviour and this could embolden them into taking more such actions. That is what seems to have happened.

The criticism of the police being too harsh appears to have given the criminals a sense of security.  The police and prison officers have been cowed. This is what led to the tragic events of July 9, 2017. The criminals destroyed the prison totally, murdered an officer and injured several others. Billions of dollars in property have been lost. More pressure is being put on our already heavily    burdened taxpayers.

The regime is blaming the overcrowding of the prisons for the incident. We know that the prisons were overcrowded. It is also true that this is not a recent phenomenon. The overcrowding started a long time ago. This has been a problem since the first PNC government (1964-92). It never led to this type of riot and destruction. Clearly, therefore, this is not the main reason. If the regime felt that overcrowding was the main issue, then why did they put a halt on the reform programme that the PPP/Civic was implementing?

Lusignan was being transformed into a prison to rehabilitate prisoners before releasing them. A great deal of capital work was going on there ‒ new buildings, fencing of the place and preparation for facilities to educate and reform the prisoners.

All this was taking place. It is these facilities that have now come in handy to house those prisoners who have been displaced by the arson from the Camp Street prison. This programme was halted by this APNU regime.

In responding to one of the queries from a journalist on the night of July 9, Minister Ramjattan blamed sugar for halting the building of new facilities.  He said the money had to be given to sugar. This is the worst kind of distortion and slander heaped on sugar workers, who are themselves, victims of this uncaring regime.

This government could find money to waste on projects like the D’Urban Park Stadium; they could spend $14M a month on a bottom house to store small medical items; they could spend millions of taxpayers’ money on procuring drugs from what appears to a favoured supplier, while avoiding the bidding process and the National Tender Board. They have no qualms about increasing ministers’ salaries by fifty per cent; increasing the number of ministers and advisors;  and finding the money to pay huge amounts for out-of-town ministers housing allowances.

They can allocate money to buy a US$124,000 vehicle for the Prime Minister to ride in and to charter planes to travel abroad. At the same time, they give themselves almost unlimited travelling allowances. They can find money to set up numerous commissions of inquiry, whose recommendations are promptly ignored, as in the case of sugar.

Yet they abandoned the many aspects of the security reform measures started by the PPP/C administration designed to keep our people safe.

This regime has failed the Guyanese people in every sector. The recent tragic events in our prisons are just another example.  Unfortunately, it is a tragic and expensive example that stands out as a monument to the APNU+AFC regime’s incompetence.

The government must re-examine their attitude to crime and criminals so that a July 9 should not occur again.

Yours faithfully,

Donald Ramotar

Former President

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The government is guilty of dereliction by not taking seriously the recommendations from the CoI into the prison fire a year ago.

July 11, 2017 Source

Dear Editor,

I feel a sense of pain, grief and sorrow on learning of the events on Sunday at the Georgetown Prisons. The Herculean efforts by the administration of which I was an integral part to carry out comprehensive prison reform went up in flames long before the flames that engulfed the Georgetown Prisons on Sunday.

This occurrence has come about because too many things were taken for granted by both Minister of Public Security Mr Ramjattan and the government as a whole. It is due largely to the incompetence of the Minister of Public Security in particular and the Granger administration in general. It is beyond the shadow of a doubt a matter of collective responsibility.

Taking for granted the security of the prisons and the prisoners; the maltreatment of prisoners; the lax attitude of the Ministry of Public Security towards prison reform; and the persistent efforts at misleading Parliament about the depth and scope of those reforms based on a comprehensive strategic plan adopted by the previous PPP/C administration have, cumulatively, resulted in the events two days ago.

The APNU+AFC coalition administration is guilty of dereliction of duty by not taking seriously the recommendations that emanated from the Commission of Inquiry into the deadly occurrence at the same prison location just one year ago. No structured, follow-up administrative mechanism  was put in place to implement those recommendations, and for regular progress reports to be  made available for cabinet’s consideration, especially for the implementation of those recommendations where financial resources are necessary and urgently needed.

From all the indications, given the knee-jerk predisposition of the Granger administration to set up commissions of inquiry we are likely to hear quite soon  about the establishment of another CoI into Sunday’s events at the Georgetown Prisons. In the circumstances, it should come as no surprise if a fresh set of recommendations will eventually be piled upon the previous recommendations to gather dust, given the laissez faire attitude of the Minister of Public Security towards prison reform.

The Minister of Public Security must be made to answer for this serious dereliction of duty and his persistent failure to perform his functions as a minister of government to the satisfaction of taxpayers. No amount of closing ranks by the government and Mr Ramjattan’s cabinet colleagues to defend his incompetence will suffice. And the President should refrain from his well-known efforts at sheltering ministers whose performance in the eyes of the public has been less than stellar, having failed miserably in the execution of their respective portfolio responsibilities.

With the situation still sketchy in respect of the origins of the fire, the actual situation on the ground, the whereabouts of the scores of prisoners, and injury to prisoners as a result of the actions of law enforcement, the rumour mill is spinning out of control. The public relations departments of the Guyana Prison Service, the Guyana Fire Service and the Guyana Police Force need to be more pro-active in keeping the public informed as regards the unfolding situation and its security implications for the citizens of Georgetown in particular and for the country as a whole.

Yours faithfully,

Clement J Rohee

Former Minister of Home Affairs    

Django
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

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Bilimbi.

The truth is never palatable when the criminal is guilty. Oh how soon we forget. If only this had happened under the PPP!!!!

Did it not happened under the PPP ??

How soon they forget the mayhem,one of their Minister and siblings was slaughtered.

Django
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

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Bilimbi.

The truth is never palatable when the criminal is guilty. Oh how soon we forget. If only this had happened under the PPP!!!!

Did it not happened under the PPP ??

How soon they forget the mayhem,one of their Minister and siblings was slaughtered.

Is the current administration PPP? Look at the mass destruction. This never happened under the PPP. The only itme this destruction happened under the PPP is when the PNC niggroes burned down GT on Feb 16, 1962 which is known as Black Friday.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Image result for bilimbi.

Bilimbi.

The truth is never palatable when the criminal is guilty. Oh how soon we forget. If only this had happened under the PPP!!!!

Did it not happened under the PPP ??

How soon they forget the mayhem,one of their Minister and siblings was slaughtered.

Is the current administration PPP? Look at the mass destruction. This never happened under the PPP. The only itme this destruction happened under the PPP is when the PNC niggroes burned down GT on Feb 16, 1962 which is known as Black Friday.

Bhai you going around in circles.

That destruction which should have not occurred because of poor insights by the management,currently it's advantageous that Prison should not be in the City of Georgetown.

Django
Django posted:

Bhai you going around in circles.

That destruction which should have not occurred because of poor insights by the management,currently it's advantageous that Prison should not be in the City of Georgetown.

The breakout and destruction has nothing to do with the location of the prison but rather the lax oversight by pnc operatives.

FM
Drugb posted:
Django posted:

Bhai you going around in circles.

That destruction which should have not occurred because of poor insights by the management,currently it's advantageous that Prison should not be in the City of Georgetown.

The breakout and destruction has nothing to do with the location of the prison but rather the lax oversight by pnc operatives.

Looks like you r@ss nah read wha me seh,look at the highlighted.

Django
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:

Bhai you going around in circles.

That destruction which should have not occurred because of poor insights by the management,currently it's advantageous that Prison should not be in the City of Georgetown.

The breakout and destruction has nothing to do with the location of the prison but rather the lax oversight by pnc operatives.

Looks like you r@ss nah read wha me seh,look at the highlighted.

Read your next statement. What advantage?  You want pnc supporters to travel days to see their family?

it's advantageous that Prison should not be in the City of Georgetown.

FM
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:

Bhai you going around in circles.

That destruction which should have not occurred because of poor insights by the management,currently it's advantageous that Prison should not be in the City of Georgetown.

The breakout and destruction has nothing to do with the location of the prison but rather the lax oversight by pnc operatives.

Looks like you r@ss nah read wha me seh,look at the highlighted.

Read your next statement. What advantage?  You want pnc supporters to travel days to see their family?

it's advantageous that Prison should not be in the City of Georgetown.

Are you not in modern Technology,think bhai.

Django
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Image result for bilimbi.

Bilimbi.

The truth is never palatable when the criminal is guilty. Oh how soon we forget. If only this had happened under the PPP!!!!

Did it not happened under the PPP ??

How soon they forget the mayhem,one of their Minister and siblings was slaughtered.

There's enough blame to go around but Ramotar and Rohee are pointing fingers in order to score cheap political points. 

After the Mash Day jailbreak in 2002 and the resulting crime spree, steps should have been taken by the PPP to reduce severe overcrowding at Lot 12. They should have expanded the Mazaruni facility and moved some of the prisoners there, especially those in for the long haul who were among the most dangerous. How can you have 1000 inmates in a prison designed to house 400? The PPP should have also overhauled the criminal justice system so that cases can be heard on a timely basis and prisoners on remand can be dealt with in a speedy manner. Instead of taking these necessary steps, what did the PPP do? They hired a drug lord and his Phantom Squad to murder suspected criminals. All of the money they squandered on the Skeldon Factory, the Amaila Falls road, the Marriot Hotel etc., could have used to build bigger and better prison facilities and ease the overcrowding situation at the Camp Street jail. This is the disaster the current government inherited. 

After last year's jail fire and riot, the current government started to move in the right direction by setting in motion the plans for the Mazaruni Prison expansion. There was also a IDB funded program costing $US 8 million that was supposed to be launched last Monday, to address prison overcrowding. Emergency night courts were also set up to ease the case backlog. Unfortunately, prison facilities take time to build and they did not move fast enough on the Mazaruni expansion project. There was also a security problem at the jail with the smuggling of phones and guns into the prison not being detected. This was not properly addressed after the last prison fire/riot. Security has to be beefed up at the Prisons but with the guards receiving lowly wages, there is probably a lot of corruption going on.

In future, I think they need to move dangerous prisoners who have long sentences to Mazaruni. Only keep the ones who need immediate access to the courts in Georgetown. It is also imperative that they overhaul the justice system to have people tried in a timely manner and address sentencing guidelines.

Mars
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Or they can just use the Marriott hotel as a prison as Hammie declared in 2015.

 

the ppp build it and Chinese refugees living there plus its bar-rat bugger pad 

FM
warrior posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Or they can just use the Marriott hotel as a prison as Hammie declared in 2015.

 

the ppp build it and Chinese refugees living there plus its bar-rat bugger pad 

Bai, why you let your secret out? So what does the "pad" look like?

FM
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:

Bhai you going around in circles.

That destruction which should have not occurred because of poor insights by the management,currently it's advantageous that Prison should not be in the City of Georgetown.

The breakout and destruction has nothing to do with the location of the prison but rather the lax oversight by pnc operatives.

Looks like you r@ss nah read wha me seh,look at the highlighted.

Read your next statement. What advantage?  You want pnc supporters to travel days to see their family?

it's advantageous that Prison should not be in the City of Georgetown.

Are you not in modern Technology,think bhai.

Camp Street jail should not be rebuilt.

  Source

Dear Editor,

The Indian Action Committee (IAC) is shocked and horrified at the deliberate destruction of the Camp Street Jail which was destroyed by fire on Sunday, July 9, set simultaneously in several buildings in the compound by dangerous prisoners many of whom are on Death Row or serving life sentences for murder.

The IAC understands that the now destroyed prison was insanely overcrowded with at least twice the safe capacity for housing both convicted criminals and those on remand prior to their trials.

The IAC is calling on the government, which now has an ideal opportunity, to construct two new prisons outside of the city of Georgetown: one for the remand detainees in the vicinity of Timehri and a second for dangerous convicted criminals somewhere in the remote interior of the country such as within the New River Triangle.

The IAC further calls upon the government to implement speedy trials for those on remand so that their constitutional right under Article 144 can be protected and this can be facilitated by the allocation of sufficient funds into the now being prepared 2018 National Budget given the recent statement made by the Minister of Public Security that there is not enough money available for the reduction of this backlog of cases.

The IAC wishes to express its deepest condolences to the family and relatives of the slain Prison Officer Odinga Wickham who was brutally murdered by prisoners and the organization wishes a speedy recovery to the other wounded prison officers.

The IAC also understands that hundreds of prisoners have been taken to Lusignan where the facility there cannot accommodate them and that these prisoners are being kept in the open, exposed to the elements in an inhumane manner and, therefore, this unsafe situation presents a clear danger to the inhabitants of the villages nearby.

The IAC calls upon the Guyanese citizens to take all possible safety precautions because several very dangerous armed criminals have not yet been recaptured and these persons have the ability to create a grave crisis similar to what occurred after the 2002 Mashramani Day prison break from the same facility which led to the crime wave that lasted from then until 2009.

The IAC recommends that no new prison be rebuilt at Camp Street and that the land be put to other use whether publicly or privately.

The IAC, also recommends that as the economy deteriorates and unemployment rises with a concomitant worsening of the crime situation, that the government take a tough line on crime.

Yours faithfully,

Saira Alli

Secretary/Coordinator

Indian Action Committee


 

Drugb,

take a peek at the letter from IAC,

they are saying to built a Prison at the New River Triangle.

Django

Build the damn prison anywhere these human waste cannot see the light of day. They have no damn right to anything. They should first think of the consequences of their actions before committing the crime. Build the son of a bitch on a mountain top for all I am concerned. If they want to escape they can jump off the mountain saving the taxpayers of their hard earned cash. They would do the world a favor.

FM
Drugb posted:
Django posted:

Bhai you going around in circles.

That destruction which should have not occurred because of poor insights by the management,currently it's advantageous that Prison should not be in the City of Georgetown.

The breakout and destruction has nothing to do with the location of the prison but rather the lax oversight by pnc operatives.

Correct Drugb.

FM

The Marriott would be an excellent choice to house GRANGER'S angels. They could reassign Lilmohan and Django as personal butlers for the prisoners and also friends with benefits.

FM
skeldon_man posted:

Build the damn prison anywhere these human waste cannot see the light of day. They have no damn right to anything. They should first think of the consequences of their actions before committing the crime. Build the son of a bitch on a mountain top for all I am concerned. If they want to escape they can jump off the mountain saving the taxpayers of their hard earned cash. They would do the world a favor.

for a man who family robing all over the country you just do not care like u keeping the loot 

FM
Drugb posted:

The Marriott would be an excellent choice to house GRANGER'S angels. They could reassign Lilmohan and Django as personal butlers for the prisoners and also friends with benefits.

Bai, we had wan Mama Dankey named Lucille. She was very good with the kids. You behaving like you drank her milk. 

Mitwah

Accept the fact, PNC failed, spin it which ever way you want. Using a jail for 600 and then house 1018 prisoners is a time bomb to be exploded and that exactly happened. Wardens knew of the plot months ago and no action was taken, they too busy dancing and getting drunk. Drunkie Rumjaat is in charge of the prisons, he was drunk when the attack happened. This was all a government plan, now one third of the prisoners will get bail and be free,the government dont have money to house and feed the prisoners. Warning to all visitors to Guyana , go at your own risk, criminals on the run.

K
kp posted:

Accept the fact, PNC failed, spin it which ever way you want. Using a jail for 600 and then house 1018 prisoners is a time bomb to be exploded and that exactly happened. Wardens knew of the plot months ago and no action was taken, they too busy dancing and getting drunk. Drunkie Rumjaat is in charge of the prisons, he was drunk when the attack happened. This was all a government plan, now one third of the prisoners will get bail and be free,the government dont have money to house and feed the prisoners. Warning to all visitors to Guyana , go at your own risk, criminals on the run.

This is all the PPP's fault. How come they did not see it fit to build a prison during their 23 years reign. The current GOG inherited more that 1018 prisoners when they took office. 

DEMSEH:

Every politician know that Guyana need a proper prison ever since de 2002 jailbreak. Five men get away and created mayhem—from Bartica massacre to Bartica slaughter.

Instead under Jagdeo and he Pee Pee Pee dem chose to give one laptop per family. Under Soulja Bai and he coalition dem giving one prisoner per family.

To build a proper jail gun cost no more than US$30 million. But follow this; Jagdeo seh he spend US$150 million pun an airport that has no plane instead of US$30 pun a jail.

He spend US$200 million pun Skeldon that grind no sugar instead of US$30 million pun a jail. He spend US$50 million pun de hydro road that leads to nowhere instead of US$30 million pun a jail. He spend US$60 million pun de Marriott that operating at a loss instead of US$30 million pun a jail.

He spend US$45 million pun de cable from Brazil wha still to reach Guyana instead of US$30 million pun a jail.

He spend US$30 million pun dem laptop wha dem family couldn’t mek use of instead of US$30 million pun a jail. Dem boys can go on more and more.

Soulja Bai go in and dem start paying out money by de billions to people who write threatening letter, like Bee Kay instead of building a US$30 million jail.

Dem pay out couple billion in court matters instead of building a US$30 million prison. Dem building overhead walkway, roads and sea dam fuh billions instead of building US$30 million jail.

Dem boys seh people should put dem heads together and examine wha de politicians doing. Dem boys want to believe that dem frighten dem build de jail fuh demself. Jagdeo and ee Pee Pee Pee was de first set to do nutten.

This set of poops following in Jagdeo footsteps. Dem frighten dem build de jail fuh demself because of ExxonMobil, de oil king of de world.

Talk half and see who really care fuh you safety and security.

Source

 

Mitwah
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

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Bilimbi.

The truth is never palatable when the criminal is guilty. Oh how soon we forget. If only this had happened under the PPP!!!!

Dem bais nah want to go to Lat 12. dem ah jump fuh joy because dem think dat souja bai na gat nowhere to put dem .

dem fuget he mek up mazaruni

Pointblank
Pointblank posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Image result for bilimbi.

Bilimbi.

The truth is never palatable when the criminal is guilty. Oh how soon we forget. If only this had happened under the PPP!!!!

Dem bais nah want to go to Lat 12. dem ah jump fuh joy because dem think dat souja bai na gat nowhere to put dem .

dem fuget he mek up mazaruni

This is where they will be incarcerated.


Plans for expanded Mazaruni Prison initiated months ago- Minister Ramjattan

Django

There are questions to be answered about the events at the Camp Street jail.

Source

Dear Editor,

At the time of dispatching my letter to the media on the night of Sunday, July 9, at 9.23pm  I called on the Joint Services to be more pro-active in their public relations reporting concerning the unfolding events at the scene of the conflagration at the Georgetown Prisons. At that time, there was not a single official report on the number of fatalities or the injured on either the law enforcement or the prisoner sides, neither was there any information about the number of escapees.

Thus far, the situation remains the same. There is a virtual news blackout from government sources on the developing situation. Subsequently, via the media, we heard about a confrontation between custodial ranks and a group of armed inmates and reports of a shooting incident and hostage taking. We were told that in that confrontation, a prison officer was relieved of his weapon by the prisoners. An answer must be given as to why such a large number of inmates were released from their place of confinement and were out in the open at the same time, and how prisoners got hold of the keys to unlock the strong cells where the condemned and special watch prisoners are held.

Why there were so few prison officers on duty on that particular day is another question that must be answered.

We were not told how many prisoners and prison officers were involved in the armed confrontation or whether the prison armory was secure at the time of the confrontation.

Importantly, were the Guyana Prison Service’s freshly minted Standard Operating Procedures followed at the first sign that an unusual situation had appeared, and was the potential for it to escalate underestimated? In this regard, the injuries suffered by prison officers and the death of PO Wickham should never have occurred and must not be allowed to pass without a thorough investigation.

Based on reports emanating mainly from the media and not from the government’s information agency there appear to be some striking similarities with the 2002 jail break, save and except for the fiery conflagration that brought the prison to ashes. How no prisoner died or was seriously injured in the midst of the ensuing chaos is a total mystery to many.

Prime Minister Nagamootoo while accompanying the President on a visit to the burnt-out site sought to scotch speculation about bodies being burnt and buried in the rubble. He sought confirmation on the matter from the Chief Fire Officer (CFO). The CFO of course did not answer the question definitively because he knows that the fire department does not possess either the technical or scientific capacity to do so, nor is the Guyana Fire Service the ultimate agency to determine such matters. Further, the CFO knows full well such a determination is the job for forensics.

So far, there is no indication that the government intends to invite in forensic experts to put that question to rest; instead of doing so it has moved to quickly clean up the site thus removing traces of evidential value.

Thus justifiable questions are being asked as to whether this whole affair was carefully planned and expertly executed with outside help on a Sunday at 15:00 hours, knowing the security and level of alertness at the prison on that day and at that time would be low; when the full complement of custodial ranks would be at the bare minimum, and where the element of surprise could be used to the max.

On instructions from ringleaders, fire was set in a calculated manner at the four corners of the prison where old wooden buildings were situated. The fires and the confusion that arose therefrom were obviously aimed at creating an atmosphere of panic and chaos, so that apart from the anticipated collateral damage, enough coverage, time and space would be given to those bent on escaping from captivity.

Nevertheless, congratulations are in order for the Joint Services for the well-coordinated, uneventful evacuation and transference of the huge prison population.

However, questions are being asked how come such effectiveness and efficiency was demonstrated by the Joint Services only at the stage of evacuation and transference and not at the equally important stage to assert command and control over the situation within the walls of the prison, which were so vital and necessary to bring the situation under control.

In this respect, I disagree with Mr Erskine when he said that the authorities should now focus on finding solutions rather than the faults. In my view both are important.

If we don’t know the faults we cannot determine the solutions. It will be recalled that during the March 3, 2016 uprising at the same prison location 17 lives were lost.

Many faults were found but few solutions were implemented. In the meanwhile, it is estimated that 8 prisoners have escaped.

The announcement by the President about “going back to the drawing board to determine whether it is appropriate to have at the centre of the city a facility like this” is nothing but a foregone conclusion that was reached many years ago.

All that has happened is that the administration has now been presented on a platter with the opportunity to design and construct a modern facility to cater for a particular category of prisoner at that location which serves logistically, the upper and lower courts well.

Yours faithfully,

Clement J Rohee

Django
Django posted:
Pointblank posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Image result for bilimbi.

Bilimbi.

The truth is never palatable when the criminal is guilty. Oh how soon we forget. If only this had happened under the PPP!!!!

Dem bais nah want to go to Lat 12. dem ah jump fuh joy because dem think dat souja bai na gat nowhere to put dem .

dem fuget he mek up mazaruni

This is where they will be incarcerated.


Plans for expanded Mazaruni Prison initiated months ago- Minister Ramjattan

Plans are ok. It's not when you are ready to take a sh*t, then you go build a latrine. A couple things to think about: Where is the financing and who will do it? Will it be a 'for profit' prison built by military comrades of Granjah? I think this model looks like a country club resort. I will make a prediction now. This will not be built as modeled. They will build cheap banaffs and steal most of the money.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
 

This is where they will be incarcerated.


Plans for expanded Mazaruni Prison initiated months ago- Minister Ramjattan

Plans are ok. It's not when you are ready to take a sh*t, then you go build a latrine. A couple things to think about: Where is the financing and who will do it? Will it be a 'for profit' prison built by military comrades of Granjah? I think this model looks like a country club resort. I will make a prediction now. This will not be built as modeled. They will build cheap banaffs and steal most of the money.

How can you just look at a picture posted by the propagandists and determine that the plans are ok? There is much more to prison management than the building. Did you ask about the layout of the cells, the security methods comparable to modern prisons in the US, the close circuit tv/surveillance systems to monitor prisoners? Whether there will be solitary confinement, double cells for prisoners, recreation areas, rehabilitation plans etc?

FM
Drugb posted:
skeldon_man posted:
 

This is where they will be incarcerated.


Plans for expanded Mazaruni Prison initiated months ago- Minister Ramjattan

Plans are ok. It's not when you are ready to take a sh*t, then you go build a latrine. A couple things to think about: Where is the financing and who will do it? Will it be a 'for profit' prison built by military comrades of Granjah? I think this model looks like a country club resort. I will make a prediction now. This will not be built as modeled. They will build cheap banaffs and steal most of the money.

How can you just look at a picture posted by the propagandists and determine that the plans are ok? There is much more to prison management than the building. Did you ask about the layout of the cells, the security methods comparable to modern prisons in the US, the close circuit tv/surveillance systems to monitor prisoners? Whether there will be solitary confinement, double cells for prisoners, recreation areas, rehabilitation plans etc?

Bai, why ask all this? Where is the money going to come from to do all this? We would be lucky to see logies built with manicole wood. Your above observations are beyond the comprehension of Granjah, Harmunjah, and Rumjah. That's too much to spend without stealing half. Remember, you need a reliable source of electricity to manage the prison. Guyana is still in the kerosene hand lamp age.

FM

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