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Rainbow City, Linden homes inundated after heavy downpour

 

– Regional chairman said NDIA stalling release of funds to clean drains 

SEVERAL families in the community of Rainbow City in the town of Linden are counting their losses after heavy rainfall caused flooding.The residents said that they face the same trouble every time it rains heavily.
One resident, Ulanda Johnson, whose entire yard and bottom flat was under water, told this newspaper that the flooding began Tuesday, had drained off. Much to her surprise, around 14: 30 hrs the water level had risen to knee height and the entire bottom flat of her home was flooded.
The vinyl was raised by the water and was seen floating. Johnson said that she has not yet assessed her losses, but is sure that the groceries in the cupboards and the vinyl on the floor will have to be discarded. She fears that her electrical appliances will also be destroyed by the water.
The residents blamed clogged drains for the flooding and accused the relevant authorities of not caring, since it is an ongoing problem.
“If the drains keep clean — not just this drain that is on the road but the main drains — this wouldn’t happen,” she explained. With small children in the home, Ulanda fears that they could be infected from the dirty water and her daughter who is a nursing student currently writing examinations has been inconvenienced from the flooding, as she cannot attend classes.
Commenting on the issue was Regional Chairman Renis Morian. He expressed disappointment, saying the authorities tried to prevent the flooding.
He told this newspaper that the region is in possession of a mini-excavator and another heavy- duty machinery, but is awaiting approval of the funding to commence works to clean the drains in the area and also in Kara Kara.
The Chairman said that the National Drainage and Irrigation Authority is stalling the process by not passing the money for the project.
“It’s just back and forth back and forth with him; nothing pleases him,” he said, referring to an official of the Authority.
He said the official was requesting that the work be done before payment is made, but he was not willing to put the labour of the people of Region 10 at stake. He also said that he had sent a correspondence to this officer notifying him of the urgency of the project as the rainy season would commence.
“In Linden where there are no jobs, you can’t put people to work and not pay them.
“The machines are there parked, we are just waiting for the money. We have already identified people for the job.” The Regional Chairman is adamant that the procrastination of this officer is the reason the flood took place.

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the PPP is responsible. They did not improve our infrastructure to cope with the increase in climate change weather patterns. The Norwegian money was used to share out amongst the PPP cartel instead.

Mr.T
Mr.T posted:

the PPP is responsible. They did not improve our infrastructure to cope with the increase in climate change weather patterns. The Norwegian money was used to share out amongst the PPP cartel instead.

What is your excuse?  Blame the coolieman?

R

Enough of this blame game and finger pointing. The damage is already done. Now it's time to fix this ongoing problem. If I recall correctly,  the Dutch offered to assist in this venture. After all, it was they who designed Guyana's drainage system some 400 years ago or so.  Any updates on this?

Sheik101

It is raining today some I am hoping that there is no flooding in GT. The last time we had a few showers, there were some problem areas there.

the drainage survey by the Dutch company and continuing remedial work is not happening. It seems like all efforts around GT are towards preparing for the jubilee celebrations.

The garbage situation has gotten better, and GT is looking better but many cannot get it in their head that they should not be durming garbage  in public areas, or even on private property. The city workers or contract labourers pick up the accumulated garbage and soon after, it's back to the same so they have to go back. I have not seen any of the wardens around, though I have heard that they are around.

Z
Sheik101 posted:

Enough of this blame game and finger pointing. The damage is already done. Now it's time to fix this ongoing problem. If I recall correctly,  the Dutch offered to assist in this venture. After all, it was they who designed Guyana's drainage system some 400 years ago or so.  Any updates on this?

 

This is the latest that I saw on the project to ease the flooding in collaboration with the Dutch.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....s-flood-prone-areas/

Dutch team helping to map city’s flood prone areas

APRIL 14, 2016 | BY | FILED UNDER NEWS 

-Govt. gets US$25M CDB loan to boost sea & river defence
Government has secured a US$25M loan agreement from the Caribbean Development Bank (CDB) for

Minister of Public Infrastructure, David Patterson

Minister of Public Infrastructure, David Patterson

a project aimed at improving Guyana’s sea and river defence capabilities.  Guyana will be providing US$5.9M to the project, which is anticipated to benefit some 45,000 people and cover 5.4 kilometres of critical area.
In light of this loan, Minister of Public Infrastructure, David Patterson is adamant that increased macro economic development will follow.
Patterson was addressing CDB and local officials at the launch of the Sea and River Defense Resilience Project workshop at the Pegasus Hotel, yesterday.
Patterson noted that susceptibility to flooding is not only something that destroys property and the livelihood of vulnerable residents, but is also something that erodes investor confidence.
He said that if sea and river defences are improved, this will be a boost to investments in Guyana.
The Minister said that in addition to the inevitable infrastructural work, the sea and river defence project would include establishing a system to monitor changes in the shoreline. He spoke of the massive 2005 floods, which caused millions in damages to coastal communities and unleashed the dreaded leptospirosis disease on the populace.
“One of the discoveries during those floods,” Patterson said, “is the fact that in Georgetown we do not at the moment have a full overview of our drainage system and it is spread all over six different agencies.”
In the wake of all of this, Patterson revealed that a team, under the direction of the Dutch Risk Reduction (DDR), would be mapping the city of Georgetown in the coming months.
“When the mapping has been completed,” Patterson said, “We would model Georgetown on software. We can actually see where the areas of risk are, where the flood areas are based on the water-flow and make targeted interventions.”
Patterson also spoke of provisions being made for University of Guyana (UG) and Guyana Technical Institute (GTI) students being involved in the project. He described this as a valuable opportunity for them to learn.
In addition, the Minister noted that with this project, some of the Sustainable Development Goals (SDG) of the United Nations (UN) will be fulfilled.

Flooding in Georgetown.

Flooding in Georgetown.

Finance Secretary, Dr. Hector Butts, expressed a similar sentiment as the Minister of Public Infrastructure, regarding the 2005 floods.
He made it clear that Guyana could not afford a repeat and noted that the intervention would lead to a friendly eco-system which would build investor confidence.
Providing details of the project was CDB’s Portfolio Manager, William Ashby, who related that the US$30 million project would encompass the reconstruction and improvement of 5.4 kilometers of sea and river defence infrastructure.
He noted that at least 45,000 persons in about 9,000 households in Regions Two, Three, Four and Six would benefit under the project. He assured that the designs would be up to standard.
Ashby also announced that provisions have been made for the shoreline change monitoring system.
Last year, the Dutch Risk Reduction (DRR) from the Netherlands had arrived in Guyana and spent days analyzing Guyana’s drainage system. The team included Team Leader, Rob Steijn; Social Scientist, Judith Klostermann; and Civil Engineer, Fokke Westebring. Their trip involved a flyover of Guyana and a dozen interviews with local officials.
Afterwards, Steijn had reported key considerations and preliminary recommendations to the Government, including the need for an upgrade of Guyana’s drainage on both a technical and managerial level.
He had also expressed the need for Guyana’s water system to be addressed while expressing that short-term improvements, such as small-scale dredging, were possible.
Steijn had also added that the issue must be attacked on all levels, from the planning stage right up to the enforcement of legislation. He said too that an integrated approach involving all stakeholders was necessary.
His team’s preliminary recommendations had then been presented. These included the increase of flood resilience for people and businesses; upgrade of dredging capabilities and improvement of flow efficiency; develop long-term plans and to test a pilot project; develop and apply a lifecycle approach for the drainage assets; and also data management through digitization.

Mars
Last edited by Mars
Zed posted:

It is raining today some I am hoping that there is no flooding in GT. The last time we had a few showers, there were some problem areas there.

the drainage survey by the Dutch company and continuing remedial work is not happening. It seems like all efforts around GT are towards preparing for the jubilee celebrations.

The garbage situation has gotten better, and GT is looking better but many cannot get it in their head that they should not be durming garbage  in public areas, or even on private property. The city workers or contract labourers pick up the accumulated garbage and soon after, it's back to the same so they have to go back. I have not seen any of the wardens around, though I have heard that they are around.

The Govt. of the day should jump at this opportunity being offered by the Dutch. I understand that the Jubilee celebration is tagged to be a major event. However, I'm going to remain hopeful that the Govt. gets on the ball quickly regarding the flood situation, accept the help being offered, and not engage in any foot dragging.
Concerning the garbage situation, I'm hearing exactly what you're saying from my nephew. Guyanese don't give a shit. they will discard their garbage anywhere;  a nasty habit that needs to curbed. Fines should be imposed on people who engage In this practice. I can't say if this would have any impact, but it's worth a suggestion.
lastly, I'm going to assume you're in Guyana. I was told that Govt. is planning to close schools for an entire week for the celebrations, but I have no confirmation on this, heard anything? 

Sheik101
Mars posted:
Sheik101 posted:

Enough of this blame game and finger pointing. The damage is already done. Now it's time to fix this ongoing problem. If I recall correctly,  the Dutch offered to assist in this venture. After all, it was they who designed Guyana's drainage system some 400 years ago or so.  Any updates on this?

 

This is the latest that I saw on the project to ease the flooding in collaboration with the Dutch.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....s-flood-prone-areas/

Dutch team helping to map city’s flood prone areas

APRIL 14, 2016 | BY | FILED UNDER NEWS 

-Govt. gets US$25M CDB loan to boost sea & river defence
Government has secured a US$25M loan agreement from the Caribbean Development Bank (CDB) for

Minister of Public Infrastructure, David Patterson

Minister of Public Infrastructure, David Patterson

a project aimed at improving Guyana’s sea and river defence capabilities.  Guyana will be providing US$5.9M to the project, which is anticipated to benefit some 45,000 people and cover 5.4 kilometres of critical area.
In light of this loan, Minister of Public Infrastructure, David Patterson is adamant that increased macro economic development will follow.
Patterson was addressing CDB and local officials at the launch of the Sea and River Defense Resilience Project workshop at the Pegasus Hotel, yesterday.
Patterson noted that susceptibility to flooding is not only something that destroys property and the livelihood of vulnerable residents, but is also something that erodes investor confidence.
He said that if sea and river defences are improved, this will be a boost to investments in Guyana.
The Minister said that in addition to the inevitable infrastructural work, the sea and river defence project would include establishing a system to monitor changes in the shoreline. He spoke of the massive 2005 floods, which caused millions in damages to coastal communities and unleashed the dreaded leptospirosis disease on the populace.
“One of the discoveries during those floods,” Patterson said, “is the fact that in Georgetown we do not at the moment have a full overview of our drainage system and it is spread all over six different agencies.”
In the wake of all of this, Patterson revealed that a team, under the direction of the Dutch Risk Reduction (DDR), would be mapping the city of Georgetown in the coming months.
“When the mapping has been completed,” Patterson said, “We would model Georgetown on software. We can actually see where the areas of risk are, where the flood areas are based on the water-flow and make targeted interventions.”
Patterson also spoke of provisions being made for University of Guyana (UG) and Guyana Technical Institute (GTI) students being involved in the project. He described this as a valuable opportunity for them to learn.
In addition, the Minister noted that with this project, some of the Sustainable Development Goals (SDG) of the United Nations (UN) will be fulfilled.

Flooding in Georgetown.

Flooding in Georgetown.

Finance Secretary, Dr. Hector Butts, expressed a similar sentiment as the Minister of Public Infrastructure, regarding the 2005 floods.
He made it clear that Guyana could not afford a repeat and noted that the intervention would lead to a friendly eco-system which would build investor confidence.
Providing details of the project was CDB’s Portfolio Manager, William Ashby, who related that the US$30 million project would encompass the reconstruction and improvement of 5.4 kilometers of sea and river defence infrastructure.
He noted that at least 45,000 persons in about 9,000 households in Regions Two, Three, Four and Six would benefit under the project. He assured that the designs would be up to standard.
Ashby also announced that provisions have been made for the shoreline change monitoring system.
Last year, the Dutch Risk Reduction (DRR) from the Netherlands had arrived in Guyana and spent days analyzing Guyana’s drainage system. The team included Team Leader, Rob Steijn; Social Scientist, Judith Klostermann; and Civil Engineer, Fokke Westebring. Their trip involved a flyover of Guyana and a dozen interviews with local officials.
Afterwards, Steijn had reported key considerations and preliminary recommendations to the Government, including the need for an upgrade of Guyana’s drainage on both a technical and managerial level.
He had also expressed the need for Guyana’s water system to be addressed while expressing that short-term improvements, such as small-scale dredging, were possible.
Steijn had also added that the issue must be attacked on all levels, from the planning stage right up to the enforcement of legislation. He said too that an integrated approach involving all stakeholders was necessary.
His team’s preliminary recommendations had then been presented. These included the increase of flood resilience for people and businesses; upgrade of dredging capabilities and improvement of flow efficiency; develop long-term plans and to test a pilot project; develop and apply a lifecycle approach for the drainage assets; and also data management through digitization.

Thanks, Mars.

Sheik101
Sheik101 posted:
Zed posted:

It is raining today some I am hoping that there is no flooding in GT. The last time we had a few showers, there were some problem areas there.

the drainage survey by the Dutch company and continuing remedial work is not happening. It seems like all efforts around GT are towards preparing for the jubilee celebrations.

The garbage situation has gotten better, and GT is looking better but many cannot get it in their head that they should not be durming garbage  in public areas, or even on private property. The city workers or contract labourers pick up the accumulated garbage and soon after, it's back to the same so they have to go back. I have not seen any of the wardens around, though I have heard that they are around.

The Govt. of the day should jump at this opportunity being offered by the Dutch. I understand that the Jubilee celebration is tagged to be a major event. However, I'm going to remain hopeful that the Govt. gets on the ball quickly regarding the flood situation, accept the help being offered, and not engage in any foot dragging.
Concerning the garbage situation, I'm hearing exactly what you're saying from my nephew. Guyanese don't give a shit. they will discard their garbage anywhere;  a nasty habit that needs to curbed. Fines should be imposed on people who engage In this practice. I can't say if this would have any impact, but it's worth a suggestion.
lastly, I'm going to assume you're in Guyana. I was told that Govt. is planning to close schools for an entire week for the celebrations, but I have no confirmation on this, heard anything? 

No, I have not heard about this. However, I've heard about schools taking a lot of time away from curricular related activities to these extra-curricular activity. 

The COzinonneducation has commenced. A small group of approx 30 persons showed up for the first public hearing. Several initial concerns about the COI. Most of the members of the commission were or are currently employed in senior positions in the MOE, thus their admin actions were partially responsible for the present state of affairs. Would a teacher of secondary math, etc venture to criticize the MOE where the ACEO for secondary is present? Additionally, most of the public do not have the relevant info to effectively participate. The MOE, prior to the commence of the hearings, should have published attendance rates, graduation rates, drop-out rate, student achievement at the grades 2, 4, 6, 9, CXC exams, disciplinary rates, etc. , the current strategic plan and what has been completed.

Z

Mars, thanks for the update.  The problem with both of the PPP and this admin is usually telling us what will happen, what they will do but either not getting it done, not doing it effectively. Or not being able to sustain it. I am hoping that I will be wrong about this government this time.

imlive on the a east Coast Demerara. After the flood, i put pretty close to 100 loads of material in my yard to ensure not again. I have to clean my own trench but others are not so willing to do so until the rain is falling and the water is rising. Lots ofvshortbterm thinking happening here.

Z
Zed posted:

Mars, thanks for the update.  The problem with both of the PPP and this admin is usually telling us what will happen, what they will do but either not getting it done, not doing it effectively. Or not being able to sustain it. I am hoping that I will be wrong about this government this time.

imlive on the a east Coast Demerara. After the flood, i put pretty close to 100 loads of material in my yard to ensure not again. I have to clean my own trench but others are not so willing to do so until the rain is falling and the water is rising. Lots ofvshortbterm thinking happening here.

The local authority should spring in to action,some work done in the area i was residing in.I used to hang out with the NDC Chairman.

Django
Last edited by Django
Zed posted:

Today's Guyana Times has a news item where the MOE announced that schools will be closed from May 23 to May 27. During that period, students will be writing the CAPE and CXC examinations.

Schools will not be closed during Independence Anniversary Week – ministry

11 mins ago Source

The Ministry of Education today said that it has no intention of closing schools during Independence Anniversary Week as reported by certain media outlets.

In a statement today, it said that “Parents, guardians, school administrators, and teachers are asked to please ignore the article in today’s Guyana Times Newspaper on page 11 and in Citizens Report, an online news blog, which states that schools will be closed for Independence Anniversary week. Kindly note, the Ministry of Education did not make any such announcement.”

Django
Mr.T posted:
Ramakant-P posted:

On day one, Granger went and pick up the garbage.  Why did he stop?

He stopped because there wasn't an Indian in sight to help him.

If I can remember, it was Brian Tiwari's dredge and other equipment cleaned Georgetown, not a blackman.

K

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