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Sugar production trudges to 23-year low

 

December 13, 2013 | By | Filed Under News 

 

The majority of striking sugar workers returned to the fields yesterday, but hopes for a miracle to pull the industry from the slump it has found itself are fast dwindling. Yesterday, Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the Guyana Sugar Corporation (GuySuCo), Paul Bhim, said that striking cane harvesters have resumed work except for two gangs at Albion Estate, East Berbice. The industry has now further revised downwards its production for the year and it is likely to be at around 190,000 tonnes of sugar, Bhim confirmed.

 

GuySuCo has further revised its industry production to 190,000 tonnes.

GuySuCo has further revised its industry production to 190,000 tonnes.

 

In 1990, the industry recorded 129,000 tonnes, one of its lowest production years. Workers downed tools on Tuesday after talks between GuySuCo and its main workers’ union, Guyana Agricultural and General Workers’ Union (GAWU), fell through when the Corporation reportedly said that it could not afford to pay the traditional production bonus this year. The union had been demanding almost seven days’ pay for 201,000-tonne production. During the meeting Tuesday, the Corporation said that it does not have the money to pay. On Wednesday, workers on all eight estates downed tools. With estates to cease grinding until December 21, eight days from now, and with rains threatening, the writing on the wall had become all too clear for both the unions and GuySuCo that even the revised 203,000 tonnes was a tall order. Coupled with this is the fact that workers’ turnout has continued to plague operations. According to the CEO, the industry’s average was 42 percent yesterday. With just over 7,000 cane harvesters, this meant just over 3,000 have actually been turning out. The poor turnout has become progressively worse over the years as workers migrated or moved unto other jobs. Even a programme to use mechanical harvesters has failed to arrest the labour problem. GuySuCo has over 16,000 workers, inclusive of office staffers. After last year’s two-decade low of 218,000 tonnes, the industry had set a 260,000 tonnes target for this year. It was revised downwards a number of times to 203,000 tonnes before the 190,000 tonnes. GuySuCo has recorded just over 180,000 tonnes for the year. The 190,000 tonnes would be significant as it is around that amount that Guyana is contractually obligated to deliver to its European customer, Tate and Lyle. On Wednesday, the Corporation said that the strike will only exacerbate its ability to meet financial obligation. “Despite low production, strikes and low turnouts, the Corporation in good faith continues to enhance wages.” GuySuCo claimed that it reached an agreement with the unions for an across the board increase of four per cent, effective from January 1, 2013. The retroactive payments totalling $735M will be paid on December 20, 2013. GuySuCo’s performance has been troubling Government for a number of years now with the US$200M Skeldon expansion programme and new factory and a US$12.5M packaging plant at Enmore failing to turn fortunes around. Government has since green-lighted the hiring of technical experts from India to help repair faults at the Enmore factory. Billions of dollars in assistance have been also approved by the National Assembly to help the ailing industry. Further talks on the production bonus between GuySuCo and GAWU are expected to continue today.

 

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Rev mentions progress from the private sector, not govt. In fact no industry should be run by govt. The investments in sugar in Guyana while the rest of the Caribbean had closed down their sugar industry, was a mistake. High cost for fuel, labor and machinary and the erratic weather patterns has wreaked havoc on the industry. Not to mention the problems at the Skeldon factory with machinary.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Rev mentions progress from the private sector, not govt. In fact no industry should be run by govt. The investments in sugar in Guyana while the rest of the Caribbean had closed down their sugar industry, was a mistake. High cost for fuel, labor and machinary and the erratic weather patterns has wreaked havoc on the industry. Not to mention the problems at the Skeldon factory with machinary.


* Excellent! Well said.

 

* There are lots of things the government has no business doing---like running sugar estates and building hotels.

 

* The major role of the government should be to create the conditions and the environment where people in the private sector will take risk, invest, and create jobs.

 

* In fairness to the PPP, they have fostered and encouraged private sector investments.

 

* They just need to get out of the sugar industry.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Rev mentions progress from the private sector, not govt. In fact no industry should be run by govt. The investments in sugar in Guyana while the rest of the Caribbean had closed down their sugar industry, was a mistake. High cost for fuel, labor and machinary and the erratic weather patterns has wreaked havoc on the industry. Not to mention the problems at the Skeldon factory with machinary.


* Excellent! Well said.

 

* There are lots of things the government has no business doing---like running sugar estates and building hotels.

 

* The major role of the government should be to create the conditions and the environment where people in the private sector will take risk, invest, and create jobs.

 

* In fairness to the PPP, they have fostered and encouraged private sector investments.

 

* They just need to get out of the sugar industry.

 

Rev

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Rev mentions progress from the private sector, not govt. In fact no industry should be run by govt. The investments in sugar in Guyana while the rest of the Caribbean had closed down their sugar industry, was a mistake. High cost for fuel, labor and machinary and the erratic weather patterns has wreaked havoc on the industry. Not to mention the problems at the Skeldon factory with machinary.


* Excellent! Well said.

 

* There are lots of things the government has no business doing---like running sugar estates and building hotels.

 

* The major role of the government should be to create the conditions and the environment where people in the private sector will take risk, invest, and create jobs.

 

* In fairness to the PPP, they have fostered and encouraged private sector investments.

 

* They just need to get out of the sugar industry.

 

Rev

 

Sell off Guysuco and let the private industry run it. Let the AFC supporters in Berbice fight with the private enterprise for wage increases.

 

Guysuco needs modernization since Indo Guyanese are moving away from cane harvesting. Let private money take care of the modernization. 

FM

Phase out the cane, phase in a more economical crop like tilapia farming

December 13, 2013 | By | Filed Under Letters 

Dear Editor,
In 2012 with a production of 218,000 tonnes, the sugar industry earned US$132,000,000 according to GuySuCo’s own 2013-2017 strategic plan, but if we were growing Tilapia on the 120,000 acres of GuySuCo we would have made US$23,958/acre x 120,000 acres =  $2,874,960,000. US 2.8 billion! Gold which earned $700,000 million in 2012 gave us 51.4 % of our foreign exchange earnings. This tilapia farming can be four times bigger. It’s not going to happen overnight, but instead of taking that already established sugar cane fields and selling it to the PPP boys to level them out to make house lots thereby undoing the work of hundreds of years of slave and indentured labor, we could have had fields with this perfect layout to form aquiculture ponds for our national wealth.

I am not a madman advocating that we return to manual labour, I am saying in my letter that we continue as is with the manual labor and machines we do have, on the area which is currently already converted and not waste more money on further conversions which will never be competitive worldwide and phase out the cane , and phase in a more economical crop i.e. tilapia.
The above attachment tells us that our conditions are perfect for aquaculture. Our field layout of natural 10 acre ponds that we currently have and the rainfall are perfect for this sort of activity even fresh water prawns which is even more lucrative can thrive here, we are wasting money growing sugar cane which can never prosper under these conditions. With the introduction of mechanical harvesting, it will never be efficient here to compete with the world market price, but we have an alternative which is much more lucrative than the sugar and can make us a world class producer.

Last year the US imported 1.5 million tonnes of the tilapia at two dollars a pound, this study uses a low $1.10 US a pound. So today we can earn two times more than 2.8 billion US a year!! that’s 5.6 billion US a year!!
Also last year 90 percent of the prawns sold worldwide came from aquaculture and not the ocean! Also we have in this country fish processors Noble house, Pritipaul Singh, Bruce Vieira etc. If we did our own processing we can get 3-4 dollars a pound in the attachment I am adjusting from 2008 to 2013. That’s US$2.8 billion x 3 = 8.4 billion, that’s 10 times our national budget! John You need to check if my arithmetic is accurate, since this seems too good to be true even to me who have been advocating it for nearly a decade now.

The conversion of the sugar cane fields to our production is potentially a bigger disaster to the industry than Skeldon. And let me tell you this: 120,000 acres of fish farming can offer employment to more than 30,000 people women included since the work is not as strenuous as cane cutting since a cutter who has to cut and load 2.4 tonnes of cane a day on his head. and because of the more lucrative nature of the income we can offer a far better salary and this is 365 days a year work, not like sugar which only really offers 36 weeks a year and an out of crop work of 3 days a week! this is a win win & win win situation Adam.
Finally,  we can’ t do this on our own in the time available, since we have done no ground work on it, so we are going to need a strategic partner and the biggest producer in this hemisphere is Ecuador, so I suggest that we pay them a visit and offer them a joint venture partnership.
Tony Vieira

[GILBAKKA'S NOTE: Tony Vieira's father once owned Houston Sugar Estate on East Bank Demerara and Versailles Sugar Estate on West Bank Demerara]

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

Yugi, the PPP runs the risk of losing their support base of sugar workers and they made a big mistake in closing down the Albion factory.

True.

 

Being objective, Guysuco must be privatized or run by a board of directors appointed by all political parties. We must do what is right for Guysuco.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

Phase out the cane, phase in a more economical crop like tilapia farming

December 13, 2013 | By | Filed Under Letters 

Dear Editor,
In 2012 with a production of 218,000 tonnes, the sugar industry earned US$132,000,000 according to GuySuCo’s own 2013-2017 strategic plan, but if we were growing Tilapia on the 120,000 acres of GuySuCo we would have made US$23,958/acre x 120,000 acres =  $2,874,960,000. US 2.8 billion! Gold which earned $700,000 million in 2012 gave us 51.4 % of our foreign exchange earnings. This tilapia farming can be four times bigger. It’s not going to happen overnight, but instead of taking that already established sugar cane fields and selling it to the PPP boys to level them out to make house lots thereby undoing the work of hundreds of years of slave and indentured labor, we could have had fields with this perfect layout to form aquiculture ponds for our national wealth.

I am not a madman advocating that we return to manual labour, I am saying in my letter that we continue as is with the manual labor and machines we do have, on the area which is currently already converted and not waste more money on further conversions which will never be competitive worldwide and phase out the cane , and phase in a more economical crop i.e. tilapia.
The above attachment tells us that our conditions are perfect for aquaculture. Our field layout of natural 10 acre ponds that we currently have and the rainfall are perfect for this sort of activity even fresh water prawns which is even more lucrative can thrive here, we are wasting money growing sugar cane which can never prosper under these conditions. With the introduction of mechanical harvesting, it will never be efficient here to compete with the world market price, but we have an alternative which is much more lucrative than the sugar and can make us a world class producer.

Last year the US imported 1.5 million tonnes of the tilapia at two dollars a pound, this study uses a low $1.10 US a pound. So today we can earn two times more than 2.8 billion US a year!! that’s 5.6 billion US a year!!
Also last year 90 percent of the prawns sold worldwide came from aquaculture and not the ocean! Also we have in this country fish processors Noble house, Pritipaul Singh, Bruce Vieira etc. If we did our own processing we can get 3-4 dollars a pound in the attachment I am adjusting from 2008 to 2013. That’s US$2.8 billion x 3 = 8.4 billion, that’s 10 times our national budget! John You need to check if my arithmetic is accurate, since this seems too good to be true even to me who have been advocating it for nearly a decade now.

The conversion of the sugar cane fields to our production is potentially a bigger disaster to the industry than Skeldon. And let me tell you this: 120,000 acres of fish farming can offer employment to more than 30,000 people women included since the work is not as strenuous as cane cutting since a cutter who has to cut and load 2.4 tonnes of cane a day on his head. and because of the more lucrative nature of the income we can offer a far better salary and this is 365 days a year work, not like sugar which only really offers 36 weeks a year and an out of crop work of 3 days a week! this is a win win & win win situation Adam.
Finally,  we can’ t do this on our own in the time available, since we have done no ground work on it, so we are going to need a strategic partner and the biggest producer in this hemisphere is Ecuador, so I suggest that we pay them a visit and offer them a joint venture partnership.
Tony Vieira

[GILBAKKA'S NOTE: Tony Vieira's father once owned Houston Sugar Estate on East Bank Demerara and Versailles Sugar Estate on West Bank Demerara]

 

Gil,

 

Many many moons ago I worked at the Lab at Guysuco. They decided on a test project to plant rice and corn. Massive amount of rice and corn were grown but mismanagement led to the downfall of this project. Diversification is good for Guysuco but management must be appointed jointly by the government and the opposition. 

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

Phase out the cane, phase in a more economical crop like tilapia farming

December 13, 2013 | By | Filed Under Letters 

Dear Editor,
In 2012 with a production of 218,000 tonnes, the sugar industry earned US$132,000,000 according to GuySuCo’s own 2013-2017 strategic plan, but if we were growing Tilapia on the 120,000 acres of GuySuCo we would have made US$23,958/acre x 120,000 acres =  $2,874,960,000. US 2.8 billion! Gold which earned $700,000 million in 2012 gave us 51.4 % of our foreign exchange earnings. This tilapia farming can be four times bigger. It’s not going to happen overnight, but instead of taking that already established sugar cane fields and selling it to the PPP boys to level them out to make house lots thereby undoing the work of hundreds of years of slave and indentured labor, we could have had fields with this perfect layout to form aquiculture ponds for our national wealth.

I am not a madman advocating that we return to manual labour, I am saying in my letter that we continue as is with the manual labor and machines we do have, on the area which is currently already converted and not waste more money on further conversions which will never be competitive worldwide and phase out the cane , and phase in a more economical crop i.e. tilapia.
The above attachment tells us that our conditions are perfect for aquaculture. Our field layout of natural 10 acre ponds that we currently have and the rainfall are perfect for this sort of activity even fresh water prawns which is even more lucrative can thrive here, we are wasting money growing sugar cane which can never prosper under these conditions. With the introduction of mechanical harvesting, it will never be efficient here to compete with the world market price, but we have an alternative which is much more lucrative than the sugar and can make us a world class producer.

Last year the US imported 1.5 million tonnes of the tilapia at two dollars a pound, this study uses a low $1.10 US a pound. So today we can earn two times more than 2.8 billion US a year!! that’s 5.6 billion US a year!!
Also last year 90 percent of the prawns sold worldwide came from aquaculture and not the ocean! Also we have in this country fish processors Noble house, Pritipaul Singh, Bruce Vieira etc. If we did our own processing we can get 3-4 dollars a pound in the attachment I am adjusting from 2008 to 2013. That’s US$2.8 billion x 3 = 8.4 billion, that’s 10 times our national budget! John You need to check if my arithmetic is accurate, since this seems too good to be true even to me who have been advocating it for nearly a decade now.

The conversion of the sugar cane fields to our production is potentially a bigger disaster to the industry than Skeldon. And let me tell you this: 120,000 acres of fish farming can offer employment to more than 30,000 people women included since the work is not as strenuous as cane cutting since a cutter who has to cut and load 2.4 tonnes of cane a day on his head. and because of the more lucrative nature of the income we can offer a far better salary and this is 365 days a year work, not like sugar which only really offers 36 weeks a year and an out of crop work of 3 days a week! this is a win win & win win situation Adam.
Finally,  we can’ t do this on our own in the time available, since we have done no ground work on it, so we are going to need a strategic partner and the biggest producer in this hemisphere is Ecuador, so I suggest that we pay them a visit and offer them a joint venture partnership.
Tony Vieira

[GILBAKKA'S NOTE: Tony Vieira's father once owned Houston Sugar Estate on East Bank Demerara and Versailles Sugar Estate on West Bank Demerara]

 

Gil,

 

Many many moons ago I worked at the Lab at Guysuco. They decided on a test project to plant rice and corn. Massive amount of rice and corn were grown but mismanagement led to the downfall of this project. Diversification is good for Guysuco but management must be appointed jointly by the government and the opposition. 

yuji22, I think Tony Vieira has a sound and sensible suggestion here. It merits serious consideration by GuySuCo.

Of course, the key phrases are phase in andphase out.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

Phase out the cane, phase in a more economical crop like tilapia farming

December 13, 2013 | By | Filed Under Letters 

Dear Editor,
In 2012 with a production of 218,000 tonnes, the sugar industry earned US$132,000,000 according to GuySuCo’s own 2013-2017 strategic plan, but if we were growing Tilapia on the 120,000 acres of GuySuCo we would have made US$23,958/acre x 120,000 acres =  $2,874,960,000. US 2.8 billion! Gold which earned $700,000 million in 2012 gave us 51.4 % of our foreign exchange earnings. This tilapia farming can be four times bigger. It’s not going to happen overnight, but instead of taking that already established sugar cane fields and selling it to the PPP boys to level them out to make house lots thereby undoing the work of hundreds of years of slave and indentured labor, we could have had fields with this perfect layout to form aquiculture ponds for our national wealth.

I am not a madman advocating that we return to manual labour, I am saying in my letter that we continue as is with the manual labor and machines we do have, on the area which is currently already converted and not waste more money on further conversions which will never be competitive worldwide and phase out the cane , and phase in a more economical crop i.e. tilapia.
The above attachment tells us that our conditions are perfect for aquaculture. Our field layout of natural 10 acre ponds that we currently have and the rainfall are perfect for this sort of activity even fresh water prawns which is even more lucrative can thrive here, we are wasting money growing sugar cane which can never prosper under these conditions. With the introduction of mechanical harvesting, it will never be efficient here to compete with the world market price, but we have an alternative which is much more lucrative than the sugar and can make us a world class producer.

Last year the US imported 1.5 million tonnes of the tilapia at two dollars a pound, this study uses a low $1.10 US a pound. So today we can earn two times more than 2.8 billion US a year!! that’s 5.6 billion US a year!!
Also last year 90 percent of the prawns sold worldwide came from aquaculture and not the ocean! Also we have in this country fish processors Noble house, Pritipaul Singh, Bruce Vieira etc. If we did our own processing we can get 3-4 dollars a pound in the attachment I am adjusting from 2008 to 2013. That’s US$2.8 billion x 3 = 8.4 billion, that’s 10 times our national budget! John You need to check if my arithmetic is accurate, since this seems too good to be true even to me who have been advocating it for nearly a decade now.

The conversion of the sugar cane fields to our production is potentially a bigger disaster to the industry than Skeldon. And let me tell you this: 120,000 acres of fish farming can offer employment to more than 30,000 people women included since the work is not as strenuous as cane cutting since a cutter who has to cut and load 2.4 tonnes of cane a day on his head. and because of the more lucrative nature of the income we can offer a far better salary and this is 365 days a year work, not like sugar which only really offers 36 weeks a year and an out of crop work of 3 days a week! this is a win win & win win situation Adam.
Finally,  we can’ t do this on our own in the time available, since we have done no ground work on it, so we are going to need a strategic partner and the biggest producer in this hemisphere is Ecuador, so I suggest that we pay them a visit and offer them a joint venture partnership.
Tony Vieira

[GILBAKKA'S NOTE: Tony Vieira's father once owned Houston Sugar Estate on East Bank Demerara and Versailles Sugar Estate on West Bank Demerara]

 

Gil,

 

Many many moons ago I worked at the Lab at Guysuco. They decided on a test project to plant rice and corn. Massive amount of rice and corn were grown but mismanagement led to the downfall of this project. Diversification is good for Guysuco but management must be appointed jointly by the government and the opposition. 

yuji22, I think Tony Vieira has a sound and sensible suggestion here. It merits serious consideration by GuySuCo.

Of course, the key phrases are phase in andphase out.

 

I agree. Guysuco also needs a new board of directors appointed jointly by the government and the opposition.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

I agree. Guysuco also needs a new board of directors appointed jointly by the government and the opposition.

Guysuco needs to be disbanded, not further perpetuated as a govt entity. Putting opposition and govt appointed board of directors does not change the fundamentals but rather the accountability for the blame game. Private enterprise operates more efficiently because its driven by profit. If Guysuco in its current financial state was a private entity, it would already be filing for bankruptcy if not already closed down, instead precious tax payers dollars are keeping it alive. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Rev mentions progress from the private sector, not govt. In fact no industry should be run by govt. The investments in sugar in Guyana while the rest of the Caribbean had closed down their sugar industry, was a mistake. High cost for fuel, labor and machinary and the erratic weather patterns has wreaked havoc on the industry. Not to mention the problems at the Skeldon factory with machinary.

 

Only business successful are those who pay the bribes. Don't fool yourself. PS stagnating. A few bars and drinking spots not progress, is that clear?

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

I agree. Guysuco also needs a new board of directors appointed jointly by the government and the opposition.

Guysuco needs to be disbanded, not further perpetuated as a govt entity. Putting opposition and govt appointed board of directors does not change the fundamentals but rather the accountability for the blame game. Private enterprise operates more efficiently because its driven by profit. If Guysuco in its current financial state was a private entity, it would already be filing for bankruptcy if not already closed down, instead precious tax payers dollars are keeping it alive. 

You are a fool. You did not mention that President Ramotar spent 20 years on the board. And your friends are now on the board. 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
 

You are a fool. You did not mention that President Ramotar spent 20 years on the board. And your friends are now on the board. 

You read my views, I believe Guysuco should be privatized. Incidentally your leader Granger feels the same way. Ramoutar spending 20 years on the board is more the reason that give credence to my assertion that the industry belongs in private hands. No matter the composition of the board, as long as the tax payers is a fall back for bail out, this industry will continue to operate inefficiently. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by JB:
 

You are a fool. You did not mention that President Ramotar spent 20 years on the board. And your friends are now on the board. 

You read my views, I believe Guysuco should be privatized. Incidentally your leader Granger feels the same way. Ramoutar spending 20 years on the board is more the reason that give credence to my assertion that the industry belongs in private hands. No matter the composition of the board, as long as the tax payers is a fall back for bail out, this industry will continue to operate inefficiently. 

You are a fool.

Mitwah

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