The President can only talk. All the actions are dictated by Harmon.

this is whining about nothing. How many did Satteur have for him and his kids? Lucas is in an org that is hostile to him and he is trying to make sure he get a grip of it and for that reason kept his assistant at another place where t here can be confidentiality in his attempts to get hold of a PPP entrenched organization.

Stormborn posted:

this is whining about nothing. How many did Satteur have for him and his kids? Lucas is in an org that is hostile to him and he is trying to make sure he get a grip of it and for that reason kept his assistant at another place where t here can be confidentiality in his attempts to get hold of a PPP entrenched organization.

Stormy, his argument that he distrusts the staff at GRA begs the question of what does trust have to do with him executing his duties at GRA. But on the other more substantial issue, how do you feel about his seemingly misappropriation of GRA assets? Sattaur is gone from GRA for reasons including misappropriation of GRA assets. Using Sattaur as cover for Lucas seems like a bad idea.

Question for Lucas, what does trust have to do with legally executing your duties at GRA?

Stormborn posted:

this is whining about nothing. How many did Satteur have for him and his kids? Lucas is in an org that is hostile to him and he is trying to make sure he get a grip of it and for that reason kept his assistant at another place where t here can be confidentiality in his attempts to get hold of a PPP entrenched organization.

Do not defend for the sake of defending.

ksazma posted:

Stormborn posted:

this is whining about nothing. How many did Satteur have for him and his kids? Lucas is in an org that is hostile to him and he is trying to make sure he get a grip of it and for that reason kept his assistant at another place where t here can be confidentiality in his attempts to get hold of a PPP entrenched organization.

Stormy, his argument that he distrusts the staff at GRA begs the question of what does trust have to do with him executing his duties at GRA. But on the other more substantial issue, how do you feel about his seemingly misappropriation of GRA assets? Sattaur is gone from GRA for reasons including misappropriation of GRA assets. Using Sattaur as cover for Lucas seems like a bad idea.

Trust in our society is crap. Here is a essentially a PPP "owned" organization being taken over so why should he trust them? He and his crew will definitely be booted if the PPP regains power. That is the status quo and while not healthy it is the one we have.

Satteur was a crook. No one complained at his crookedness. He had five of his family, in his office. He misused his office for political ends.  His office was a den of PPP hacks who used their position to harass people like Freddi etc. I would fire all of their behinds.

Chief posted:

Stormborn posted:

this is whining about nothing. How many did Satteur have for him and his kids? Lucas is in an org that is hostile to him and he is trying to make sure he get a grip of it and for that reason kept his assistant at another place where t here can be confidentiality in his attempts to get hold of a PPP entrenched organization.

Do not defend for the sake of defending.

THere is nothing to defend. The complaint here is he and his assistant have cars. Satteur had five or more. The complaint is he has an assistant in another office...so what? Tell me when he begins to investigate someone as satteur did, for political ends and then I will be asking for him to be booted

Stormborn posted:

Chief posted:

Stormborn posted:

this is whining about nothing. How many did Satteur have for him and his kids? Lucas is in an org that is hostile to him and he is trying to make sure he get a grip of it and for that reason kept his assistant at another place where t here can be confidentiality in his attempts to get hold of a PPP entrenched organization.

Do not defend for the sake of defending.

THere is nothing to defend. The complaint here is he and his assistant have cars. Satteur had five or more. The complaint is he has an assistant in another office...so what? Tell me when he begins to investigate someone as satteur did, for political ends and then I will be asking for him to be booted

"He is only required to be present at GRA once per month and is paid a stipend for his travel or taxi.

Despite a vehicle being assigned him, his personal assistant, Ms. Alfred, is reportedly using a vehicle from GRA to carry out her activities.

Mr. Lucas, from indications, had GRA pay to carpet his office at Critchlow Labour College, purchase a sofa set, filing cabinets, refrigerator and computer for his personal use."

Lucas is the Chairman of GRA Board,why all this spiff he is getting.

Django posted:

Stormborn posted:

Chief posted:

Stormborn posted:

this is whining about nothing. How many did Satteur have for him and his kids? Lucas is in an org that is hostile to him and he is trying to make sure he get a grip of it and for that reason kept his assistant at another place where t here can be confidentiality in his attempts to get hold of a PPP entrenched organization.

Do not defend for the sake of defending.

THere is nothing to defend. The complaint here is he and his assistant have cars. Satteur had five or more. The complaint is he has an assistant in another office...so what? Tell me when he begins to investigate someone as satteur did, for political ends and then I will be asking for him to be booted

"He is only required to be present at GRA once per month and is paid a stipend for his travel or taxi.

Despite a vehicle being assigned him, his personal assistant, Ms. Alfred, is reportedly using a vehicle from GRA to carry out her activities.

Mr. Lucas, from indications, had GRA pay to carpet his office at Critchlow Labour College, purchase a sofa set, filing cabinets, refrigerator and computer for his personal use."

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Lucas is the Chairman of GRA Board,why all this spiff he is getting.

There is a fellow at GGMC who spent millions on food and drinks and indirectly give himself some thousands of hectares of land and he is on the job. That bitch needs to go. Lucas is doing nothing outside his purview. Lets hope there is an accounting so when he is fired, government equipment is returned.

The problem here is the PPP never developed a central HR department where all requests for furnishings or payments for stipends etc would have oversight and be recorded for posterity. They used NCN cash to create a whole private off shoot news service owned by RObert Persaud family.

If lucas is committing crimes, detail them not list what he is doing. List the  laws or process he is taking advantage of. It may be the process itself that is broken. It lets the offices of government be incubators of crooks.

Long Live The PNC.  And to those who put them in their position of authority.  Guyana is exactly where you all wanted it to be and you all have no credibility to complain.  Because it reveals pure hypocrisy.  Keep cheering on the dictatorship.

Rawle Lucas' actions are, perhaps, done carefully under the watchful eyes of David Granger and Moses Nagamootoo.

ksazma posted:

The President can only talk. All the actions are dictated by Harmon.

Afc should stop hiding behind Harmon it is the anti-koolie giving the orders.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Long Live The PNC.  And to those who put them in their position of authority.  Guyana is exactly where you all wanted it to be and you all have no credibility to complain.  Because it reveals pure hypocrisy.  Keep cheering on the dictatorship.

Most of the people are speaking out,what were you doing when your crew were filling their pockets ?

The point is that you were swearing to almighty God that Granger and his crew were the answer to all of Guyana's problems.  You accused innocent people of wrongdoing when none of it was true.  So live with who you supported.

Stormborn posted:

Chief posted:

Stormborn posted:

this is whining about nothing. How many did Satteur have for him and his kids? Lucas is in an org that is hostile to him and he is trying to make sure he get a grip of it and for that reason kept his assistant at another place where t here can be confidentiality in his attempts to get hold of a PPP entrenched organization.

Do not defend for the sake of defending.

THere is nothing to defend. The complaint here is he and his assistant have cars. Satteur had five or more. The complaint is he has an assistant in another office...so what? Tell me when he begins to investigate someone as satteur did, for political ends and then I will be asking for him to be booted

This new Government promised change.

You, me and the rest of the world are aware of the excesses and squander mania by the  PPP and administrators like Sattaur. A concerned citizen ringing a bell about Government /Civil  Servants is certainly welcomed and should be investigated.   

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Long Live The PNC.  And to those who put them in their position of authority.  Guyana is exactly where you all wanted it to be and you all have no credibility to complain.  Because it reveals pure hypocrisy.  Keep cheering on the dictatorship.

Indeed may they live long and prosper...if but at half the thieving capacity of the PPP!

The PNC will never work hard and achieve what the PPP did.  It's just not in their DNA.  You need to provide some proof of what the PPP thief as one of these days you might have to prove it, since you repeated it often enough!

Bibi Haniffa posted:

The PNC will never work hard and achieve what the PPP did.  It's just not in their DNA.  You need to provide some proof of what the PPP thief as one of these days you might have to prove it, since you repeated it often enough!

Why don't you tell Bharat to sue me so I can have one of my friends depose his thieving behind. Since you are a geneticist, tell me where is this sequence that codes for work that you know of.

‘As Chairman of the Board I am paid a monthly stipend of $10,500 by GRA’

I had a feeling Mr.Lucas is a Gentleman,sometimes over watching blinds us,I retract some of my statement questioning his credibility.

Stormborn posted:

this is whining about nothing. How many did Satteur have for him and his kids? Lucas is in an org that is hostile to him and he is trying to make sure he get a grip of it and for that reason kept his assistant at another place where t here can be confidentiality in his attempts to get hold of a PPP entrenched organization.

HAHAHA  You come to expect IDIOTIC responses from you!!!!!!!!

Stormborn posted:

Trust in our society is crap. Here is a essentially a PPP "owned" organization being taken over so why should he trust them? He and his crew will definitely be booted if the PPP regains power. That is the status quo and while not healthy it is the one we have.

Satteur was a crook. No one complained at his crookedness. He had five of his family, in his office. He misused his office for political ends.  His office was a den of PPP hacks who used their position to harass people like Freddi etc. I would fire all of their behinds.

I can understand his trust issues. That does not give him license to become judge, jury and executioner. He still has to conduct his duties within the framework of the law even is he has to fire every Tom, Dick and Harry that he does not trust. Removing government property to a facility not owned or leased by the GRA and without due process makes him equally guilty of abuse of power as Sattaur. Either he can operate within the confines of the law or recuse himself of his duties.

Django posted:

I had a feeling Mr.Lucas is a Gentleman,sometimes over watching blinds us,I retract some of my statement questioning his credibility.

Just because he wrote a letter? How do these two things happen?

"I use the stipend that I get to buy gas and pay for basic maintenance of the car that I drive.  GRA does not buy gas for me.  It offered to do so and I refused the offer.  I turn in the vehicle to GRA whenever I am not using it."

"On occasions, the management of GRA requests my presence at its headquarters for meetings as often as three times per week.  I comply because of what I see as the genuine efforts of elements of the organization’s management to bring positive changes to the entity.  Consequently, the issues of convenience and cost come into play.  Not only will I have to give up my personal time waiting for transportation to visit GRA headquarters, but under those circumstances, I will end up spending more money than the monthly stipend.  While I am prepared to serve the administration and to go the extra mile as necessary, I do not think that I should be expected to subsidize the government.  It is in that context that the convenience of the car which I drive and the facilities provided become very important."

If he only have the car when he needs it and have it so he doesn't have to wait for transportation, how does he get the car back to use to get to the office?

What about the amenities at his private office paid for by GRA? What about the unauthorized storage of government property at his office?

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Long Live The PNC.  And to those who put them in their position of authority.  Guyana is exactly where you all wanted it to be and you all have no credibility to complain.  Because it reveals pure hypocrisy.  Keep cheering on the dictatorship.

Most of the people are speaking out,what were you doing when your crew were filling their pockets ?

Bai nah you seh dat granja is de man fuh all Guyana's prablems? One year in office and we see them destroying Guyana that the PPP took 23 years to rebuild. Are they on a fast track program to bankrupt Guyana again? Will the treasury be emptied in 5 years rather than 28?