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Transparency International march

against corruption in GT today

December 9, 2013 | By | Filed Under News 

 

- invites political leaders, public to participate

Today is “International Anti-Corruption Day” in accordance with the United Nations Convention against Corruption (UNCAC) and Transparency International Guyana Inc (TIGI) has organized a march today against the scourge.
The march will commence from 10.00hrs from the Umana Yana to Parliament Buildings and back.
According to President of TIGI, Anand Goolsarran, “this is an event that is open to participation by the public.”
He indicated that TIGI has extended invitations to the President, Prime Minister Sam Hinds, Presidential Advisor Gail Teixeira, Opposition Leader David Granger, Dr. Rupert Roopnarine, Public Accounts Committee Chairman, Carl Greenidge, and Alliance for Change (AFC) Leader Khemraj Ramjattan, to join in the march.
An invitation has also been extended to the Private Sector Commission and the Georgetown Chamber of Commerce.
According to Goolsarran, “We of course encourage all Members of Parliament, non-governmental organizations, the trade union movement and the general public to participate in this day of observance.”

UN Secretary General, Ban Ki Moon

UN Secretary General, Ban Ki Moon

He noted too that the Conference of State Parties to the Convention held its Fifth Session in Panama on November at the end of last month, and one of the outcomes of the session is the launch of the new campaign for 2013 under the theme “Zero Corruption – 100 per cent Development”.
The focus of the campaign is on how corruption hinders efforts to achieve the internationally agreed upon Millennium Development Goals (MDGs); undermines democracy and the rule of law; distorts markets; erodes the quality of life and allows organized crime and other threats to human security to flourish.
Guyana acceded to the UN Convention in April 2008.
According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), “this day is an opportunity to raise awareness about corruption and its devastating effects on societies worldwide. Governments, private sector, non-governmental organizations, the media and ordinary citizens around the world are joining forces to fight this crime. The United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) and the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) are at the forefront of these efforts”.
According to the TIGI President, “as we observe the International Anti-Corruption Day, let us remember: (a) the proportion of people worldwide whose income is less than US$1.25 a day; (b) the unemployed, including women and young people; (c) those who suffer from hunger; and (d) the 1.2 billion worldwide who live in extreme poverty.  Perhaps the best way to remember these unfortunate victims is the observance of a day of fasting which we encourage as many people as possible to undertake.”
Meanwhile, UN Secretary General, Ban Ki Moon, in his message in observance International Anti-Corruption Day, said that corruption suppresses economic growth by driving up costs, and undermines the sustainable management of the environment and natural resources.
He noted that it breaches fundamental human rights, exacerbates poverty and increases inequality by diverting funds from health care, education and other essential services.
“The malignant effects of corruption are felt by billions of people everywhere…It is driven by and results in criminal activity, malfunctioning state institutions and weak governance. “
According to the UN Secretary General, “Good governance is critical for sustainable development, and vital in combating organized crime…Every link in the trafficking chain is vulnerable to corruption, from the bribes paid to corrupt officials by dealers in arms and drugs to the fraudulent permits and licenses used to facilitate the illicit trade in natural resources.”

TIGI President, Anand Goolsaran

TIGI President,
Anand Goolsaran

He said too that corruption is also rife in the world of sport and business, and in public procurement processes.
“In the last decade, the private sector has increasingly recognized its role in fighting corruption.  A Call to Action launched by the United Nations Global Compact and partners is mobilizing businesses and Governments to engage in transparent procurement…Guidelines are also being developed to help business fight corruption in sport sponsorship and hospitality.”
He said too that the UN is strongly committed to fulfilling its own obligations and.
“Operating in some of the world’s most unstable environments, the UN faces multifaceted corruption risks that can undermine our efforts to advance development, peace and human rights…We have developed a robust system of internal controls and continue to remain vigilant and work hard to set an example of integrity.”
According to Ban Ki Moon corruption is a barrier to achieving the Millennium Development Goals and needs to be taken into account in defining and implementing a robust post-2015 development agenda.
The UN Convention against Corruption, adopted 10 years ago, is the paramount global framework for preventing and combating corruption.
Full implementation depends crucially on effective prevention, law enforcement, international cooperation and asset recovery.
“On this International Anti-Corruption Day, I urge Governments, the private sector and civil society to take a collective stand against this complex social, political and economic disease that affects all countries…To achieve an equitable, inclusive and more prosperous future for all, we must foster a culture of integrity, transparency, accountability and good governance,” the UN Secretary General said.

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I hope our dear friend JB participates in this anti-corruption march.

We must talk the talk and walk the walk.

Between 1970 and 1992, I not only criticized the then PNC regime at public meetings and in the opposition Mirror newspaper. I took part in marches too.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

I hope our dear friend JB participates in this anti-corruption march.

We must talk the talk and walk the walk.

Between 1970 and 1992, I not only criticized the then PNC regime at public meetings and in the opposition Mirror newspaper. I took part in marches too.

JB is a manhooman. He will drape his drawers over his head and hide in his bedroom. He is like the small dogs..all bark and no bite

I remember the burning days from 1962 to 1970.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

What was the turnout?  This will be the yardstick of how the public really feels about the afc/pnc charges of corruption. 

Among the estimated 35 persons present were TIGI executives, General Secretary of the Guyana Trades Union Congress (GTUC), Lincoln Lewis; Executive member of A Partnership for National Unity (APNU), Joseph Harmon; Leader of the Alliance For Change (AFC), Khemraj Ramjattan and Red Thread Executive Member, Karen De Souza.

Also present was the publisher of Kaieteur News, Glen Lall and a group of grassroots persons from the Charlestown area with ties to that newspaper.

 

Source: Demerara Waves

FM

This makes my point, until the Guyanese public reject corruption in vast numbers, it will continue to grow and fester. The opportunists in the afc/pnc showed up as a facade in spite of their own corrupt practices.  No politician in Guyana can be trusted. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

This makes my point, until the Guyanese public reject corruption in vast numbers, it will continue to grow and fester. The opportunists in the afc/pnc showed up as a facade in spite of their own corrupt practices.  No politician in Guyana can be trusted. 

BG_S, I think an attendance of 35 is good. And I'm optimistic the number will grow as TI Guyana Chapter raise the people's consciousness thru more information and organization.

From my personal experience and reading, I know that many social movements usually start small and grow slowly until, suddenly, there is a catalyst that swells the movement to a formidable force for change.

The same thing happens in politics. I was a member of the Central Georgetown PPP Group from 1979 to 1990. That group was based at Freedom House. It used to meet every alternate Tuesday evening.

Believe me, the average attendance was only 8 persons. This number included the Chairman and the Secretary who had to attend to chair the meeting and take down the minutes respectively.

Eight persons attending a PPP group meeting at Freedom House for all those years I was there. Astounding! The number would increase when Congress was approaching or when general elections were called. A similar situation obtained in many PPP groups throughout Guyana.

Despite that, look what happened in 1992. I resigned from the group in 1990 but I knew that attendance at its meetings had swollen appreciably as elections drew nearer. The PPP won and the rest is history.

So, I'm optimistic that the anti-corruption movement in Guyana will grow from strength to strength as the saying goes.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

I hope our dear friend JB participates in this anti-corruption march.

We must talk the talk and walk the walk.

Between 1970 and 1992, I not only criticized the then PNC regime at public meetings and in the opposition Mirror newspaper. I took part in marches too.

JB is a manhooman. He will drape his drawers over his head and hide in his bedroom. He is like the small dogs..all bark and no bite

I remember the burning days from 1962 to 1970.

You are a moron.

FM

 

Most here miss the intent of Anand, He is gearing up to form his own political party.

 

Could Gerhard be a part of his party ? Or is Gerhard finished with politics ?

 

Can Anand further divide the PPP votes ?

 

Should this be a political wake up call for the top executives of the PPP ? What do you think ?

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

I hope our dear friend JB participates in this anti-corruption march.

We must talk the talk and walk the walk.

Between 1970 and 1992, I not only criticized the then PNC regime at public meetings and in the opposition Mirror newspaper. I took part in marches too.

 

Gil

 

It seems like you did your fair share for the PPP.

 

What is the reason for your opposition to the PPP ? How should they transform the party so that voices like yours are heard ?

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

BG_S, I think an attendance of 35 is good. And I'm optimistic the number will grow as TI Guyana Chapter raise the people's consciousness thru more information and organization.

From my personal experience and reading, I know that many social movements usually start small and grow slowly until, suddenly, there is a catalyst that swells the movement to a formidable force for change.

The same thing happens in politics. I was a member of the Central Georgetown PPP Group from 1979 to 1990. That group was based at Freedom House. It used to meet every alternate Tuesday evening.

Believe me, the average attendance was only 8 persons. This number included the Chairman and the Secretary who had to attend to chair the meeting and take down the minutes respectively.

Eight persons attending a PPP group meeting at Freedom House for all those years I was there. Astounding! The number would increase when Congress was approaching or when general elections were called. A similar situation obtained in many PPP groups throughout Guyana.

Despite that, look what happened in 1992. I resigned from the group in 1990 but I knew that attendance at its meetings had swollen appreciably as elections drew nearer. The PPP won and the rest is history.

So, I'm optimistic that the anti-corruption movement in Guyana will grow from strength to strength as the saying goes.

You are an eternal optimist, listening to the saber rattling by the facetious opposition you would expect Guyana to be at a crisis point with the claims of widespread corruption.  Time and time again they claim that Guyana is the most corrupt country in the world, however the turnout at the protest does not reflect these claims. Either that or the Guyanese people are accepting of the corruption. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

BG_S, I think an attendance of 35 is good. And I'm optimistic the number will grow as TI Guyana Chapter raise the people's consciousness thru more information and organization.

From my personal experience and reading, I know that many social movements usually start small and grow slowly until, suddenly, there is a catalyst that swells the movement to a formidable force for change.

The same thing happens in politics. I was a member of the Central Georgetown PPP Group from 1979 to 1990. That group was based at Freedom House. It used to meet every alternate Tuesday evening.

Believe me, the average attendance was only 8 persons. This number included the Chairman and the Secretary who had to attend to chair the meeting and take down the minutes respectively.

Eight persons attending a PPP group meeting at Freedom House for all those years I was there. Astounding! The number would increase when Congress was approaching or when general elections were called. A similar situation obtained in many PPP groups throughout Guyana.

Despite that, look what happened in 1992. I resigned from the group in 1990 but I knew that attendance at its meetings had swollen appreciably as elections drew nearer. The PPP won and the rest is history.

So, I'm optimistic that the anti-corruption movement in Guyana will grow from strength to strength as the saying goes.

You are an eternal optimist, listening to the saber rattling by the facetious opposition you would expect Guyana to be at a crisis point with the claims of widespread corruption.  Time and time again they claim that Guyana is the most corrupt country in the world, however the turnout at the protest does not reflect these claims. Either that or the Guyanese people are accepting of the corruption. 

What reduces the opposition to factitious? Is it your knee bending and supplication to thieves because they are kindred? You are the one like a deer in headlights. You see the danger of a collapse of this government and their industrial scale pillage of our national treasury and you still stand and gawk.  Fortunately, sufficient numbers are averse to being run over. This corrupt regime is on its last legs.

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

I hope our dear friend JB participates in this anti-corruption march.

We must talk the talk and walk the walk.

Between 1970 and 1992, I not only criticized the then PNC regime at public meetings and in the opposition Mirror newspaper. I took part in marches too.

JB is a manhooman. He will drape his drawers over his head and hide in his bedroom. He is like the small dogs..all bark and no bite

I remember the burning days from 1962 to 1970.

You are a moron.

And you? A battie man!

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

 

Gil

What is the reason for your opposition to the PPP ? How should they transform the party so that voices like yours are heard ?

yuji22:

For most of the 28 years prior to 1992, the PPP was telling all and sundry about the PNC's corruption, mismanagement, favouritism, nepotism, etc.

Being a card-carrying member and junior activist in the PPP, I did my modest part along with hundreds of other activists in the struggle against PNC corruption, mismanagement, favouritism, nepotism, etc.

In 1992 the PPP contested and won general elections under the slogan FOR LEAN AND CLEAN GOVERNMENT. Many Guyanese had put great faith in that promise, only to be disappointed after Dr Cheddi Jagan died.

I was reliably informed that a PPP power-couple built a mansion at Ogle. At the house-warming ceremony Mrs Janet Jagan walked out in disgust after observing certain lavish and costly components of the mansion's interior.

But that was only the beginning of a trend that progressed from the so-called Pradoville 1 to Pradoville 2.

I was disgusted to learn throughout the ensuing years how some of my formerly poor comrades enriched themselves shamelessly.

One guy who was a Freedom House driver before 1992 eventually bought and enlarged a property near Dr Jagan's modest Bel Air home. As of three years ago, I heard he owned 4 luxury SUVs.

Look at the so-called working-class champions who live in mansions at the two Pradovilles. Do the arithmetic on their official salaries and current assets. Nothing adds up.

As I said, we fought against PNC nepotism and favouritism. Read Kaieteur News revelations about how the PPP/C helped Dr Bobby Ramroop to become a tycoon, how PPP leaders' families are getting perks and privileges while qualified and deserving citizens are bypassed and dismissed.

How can I support these things?

 

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

 

Gil

What is the reason for your opposition to the PPP ? How should they transform the party so that voices like yours are heard ?

yuji22:

For most of the 28 years prior to 1992, the PPP was telling all and sundry about the PNC's corruption, mismanagement, favouritism, nepotism, etc.

Being a card-carrying member and junior activist in the PPP, I did my modest part along with hundreds of other activists in the struggle against PNC corruption, mismanagement, favouritism, nepotism, etc.

In 1992 the PPP contested and won general elections under the slogan FOR LEAN AND CLEAN GOVERNMENT. Many Guyanese had put great faith in that promise, only to be disappointed after Dr Cheddi Jagan died.

I was reliably informed that a PPP power-couple built a mansion at Ogle. At the house-warming ceremony Mrs Janet Jagan walked out in disgust after observing certain lavish and costly components of the mansion's interior.

But that was only the beginning of a trend that progressed from the so-called Pradoville 1 to Pradoville 2.

I was disgusted to learn throughout the ensuing years how some of my formerly poor comrades enriched themselves shamelessly.

One guy who was a Freedom House driver before 1992 eventually bought and enlarged a property near Dr Jagan's modest Bel Air home. As of three years ago, I heard he owned 4 luxury SUVs.

Look at the so-called working-class champions who live in mansions at the two Pradovilles. Do the arithmetic on their official salaries and current assets. Nothing adds up.

As I said, we fought against PNC nepotism and favouritism. Read Kaieteur News revelations about how the PPP/C helped Dr Bobby Ramroop to become a tycoon, how PPP leaders' families are getting perks and privileges while qualified and deserving citizens are bypassed and dismissed.

How can I support these things?

 

Gilly, I, like you is disgusted at the way things are done by some in POWER. Now, do we just cry and cry or we get the People's involvement to effect changes???  Jagdeo cannot use the great name of Cheddi Jagan cause Cheddi would never have done some of the things he did. For one, Cheddi would never have built a Mansion for himself. He would not have giver lavish Contracts to Friends and THE GREAT CHEDDI would have spent the People's money with much, much more CARE!!!

Nehru

PPP/C questions methodology, sources used by Transparency International to arrive at Guyana’s CPI ranking

The People's Progressive Party (PPP) issued a statement in which it questioned the methodology used by Transparency International (TI) in compiling its corruption perception index as well as question the sources which supplied the information. It said that while it respects TI's right to obtain information from whatever sources it deems necessary, it also feels compelled to draw attention to the body's reliance on information from organizations and individuals with known hostility towards it and with links to opposition.

"It is not illogical to assume that subjective and partisan influences can be brought to bear into the information and data gathering processes which in turn could introduce biases into the report" the party said.

The party said it therefore calls on Transparency International  to review its information sources on Guyana and in the interest of transparency it should inform the Guyanese people of the methodology used to obtain information, its sampling techniques and the universe of persons and organizations contacted to provide information and data.It is of the view that adequate consideration was not taken by those responsible for providing data and information on Guyana of the several initiatives taken by the current administration at both the legislative and administrative levels to enhance accountability and transparency in Guyana. Among these it said are the establishment of the Integrity Commission, the de-linking of the Auditor General's Office from the Ministry of Finance and Freedom of Information Act.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The joint opposition controlled local TI body and its methods it uses, leaves much to be desired...

 lets discuss the methods....you cannot say they leave much to be desired and not say what is undesirable. Pradovilles are not a figment of anyone's imagination, PPP having NICIL as a clearing house for state assets to friends and family is illusion. Handing over the Berbice river bridge to friends with all the tax perks when the state provided the lions share of the investment and now gouging the citizens is not fantasy. Having 8 years backlog in the justice system is not fantasy. Demanding autocratic authority over every agency of state from central government to local authorities is not a fantasy either. Installing friends and family ( Jabba's sons for example) in cushy state jobs is not fantasy...the list is practically inexhaustible...of corrupt and dubious practices that is. Dont the giving away of the radio spectrum not take the cake!!!! You may be blind, most of us are no.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The joint opposition controlled local TI body and its methods it uses, leaves much to be desired...

Who controlled the give aways of our lands to that Indian furniture maker without telling any one...how about the radio spectrum...how about the cluster of crooks in Pradoville II?

FM

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