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Tony Vieira replies to Donald Ramotar

NOVEMBER 6, 2015 | BY  | FILED UNDER LETTERS 

Dear Editor,
Dear sir, I have read Mr. Ramoutar’s letter in your issue of 2nd November 2011 there are several misleading if not deceiving comments contained therein and I summarize them below, I am writing in my personal capacity and not as a Director of GuySuCo, and what I write in this letter should not be interpreted to be an official statement of that Corporation.
1. Walchandnagar Industries Ltd. of India had the lowest bid to supply the parts for the Skeldon Factory, I have written on this before. If memory serves, we spent15 million US more dealing with the Chinese company which ultimately ended up with the contract and which had no experience in this type of work, never having built a sugar cane factory before and do not manufacture sugar cane factory components, whilst in this regard Walchandnagar Industries is a full service sugar cane factory manufacturing company.
Mr. Ramotar confirms that his government’s venture into the production of Ethanol, as a way to supplement the income of GuySuCo, was ongoing with a small trial in the Albion factory. This is ludicrous, since we are living next door to the world’s greatest proponents of the science of the production of ethanol from sugar cane currently producing 6 billion gallons of the stuff. That’s where we should have started. A friend of mine Asad Ishoof acting as an agent of Walchandnagar once told me that if the Government had bought the Skeldon Factory from Walchgandnagar Industries, they would have gotten in addition, a distillery for the same price they paid the Chinese for the junk they sold us.
2. Mr. Ramoutar said that “done a joint venture with them [GuySuCo and Guyoil] to do a blend so that 10% of the gasoline that is being used could have been partially from ethanol.” There is no necessity to make a joint venture between these two state entities It is the kind of thinking which has led us to this situation.  GuySuCo can produce fuel grade ethanol and sell it to GEA, who would sell it to the local gas agencies and they would mix it to 10 % which is the maximum allowable mix without modifications to the current engines. Whilst Mr. Ramoutar’s government was mulling an unnecessary joint venture between Guyoil and GuySuCo to produce ethanol as a gasoline fuel additive, 20 other countries have passed laws mandating it. Twenty countries may not sound like much, but 20 sugar producing countries is a lot.
3.    He says that “our plan was to make the industry flexible like the Brazilian sugar industry is. When the price of sugar is high in the world market then they produce more for the world market, when the price is low then they produce more ethanol and sell abroad and so forth.” To the best of my knowledge his Government never seriously approached Brazil to help us to do this. These people are literally begging us for access to the ocean and to be partners with us in numerous ventures, and he very easily could have asked for their help. He did not.
4.    I have seen no evidence anywhere that “The Brazilian sugar industry is heavily subsidized by the government” I am not saying that there isn’t I am saying that I cannot find it.
5.    Incredibly Mr. Ramoutar makes the following observation “The sugar sector has received over $26 billion in budget support from the European Union (EU) since the end of preferential pricing. However, GuySuCo remains $82 billion in debt” in saying this, he summarizes the condition his government left the industry in after 23 years in office. i.e. a complete economic disaster.
6.    I have not heard that the COI has convinced the government that the only way forward is to close the industry down, but it is true that the COI has determined that the salary of the average cane cutter can be as high as G$2.9 million per year.
7.    It seems to me from reports of friends who attended the weekend meetings of GAWU that the workers are not the ones pushing to take industrial action at this time; it is Mr. Komal Chand of GAWU. In view of his political affiliations and in view of the Corporation’s reasonable position that the wage talks be delayed until the release of the findings of the COI, I would say that this strike is certainly suspiciously political. In view of the recent good weeks of production the industry has been showing, is the PPP jealous that after only less than 6 months in office, with the Collation Government’s handling of the day to day management of the corporation, the industry seems to be thriving at last? And their only response is to interrupt this flow of production with wild cat strikes? Is this reasonable or acceptable?
8.     The cost of labor today of the industry is G$20 billion, what does it mean? It means that the total expected sales of GuySuCo in 2016 will be 20 billion i.e. it will just cover the cost of labor, the other 16 billion the corporation needs to carry out its other functions, milling, capital, etc will be losses. I am shocked that the PPP can embark on this process of sabotage of the industry’s production, for narrow political ends. Since at this time with an industry tottering on the brink of insolvency, to encourage the workers to strike, in violation of the ‘avoidance and settlement of disputes’ agreement between the Union and the corporation, to the detriment of the workers, the government and the people of Guyana who have to support this industry with their hard earned taxes, is contemptuous.
Tony Vieira

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I wonder if Tony Vieira would ever say yes Guyana is Amerindian Land.

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Tony Vieira replies to Donald Ramotar

NOVEMBER 6, 2015 | BY  | FILED UNDER LETTERS 

Dear Editor,
Dear sir, I have read Mr. Ramoutar’s letter in your issue of 2nd November 2011 there are several misleading if not deceiving comments contained therein and I summarize them below, I am writing in my personal capacity and not as a Director of GuySuCo, and what I write in this letter should not be interpreted to be an official statement of that Corporation.
1. Walchandnagar Industries Ltd. of India had the lowest bid to supply the parts for the Skeldon Factory, I have written on this before. If memory serves, we spent15 million US more dealing with the Chinese company which ultimately ended up with the contract and which had no experience in this type of work, never having built a sugar cane factory before and do not manufacture sugar cane factory components, whilst in this regard Walchandnagar Industries is a full service sugar cane factory manufacturing company.
Mr. Ramotar confirms that his government’s venture into the production of Ethanol, as a way to supplement the income of GuySuCo, was ongoing with a small trial in the Albion factory. This is ludicrous, since we are living next door to the world’s greatest proponents of the science of the production of ethanol from sugar cane currently producing 6 billion gallons of the stuff. That’s where we should have started. A friend of mine Asad Ishoof acting as an agent of Walchandnagar once told me that if the Government had bought the Skeldon Factory from Walchgandnagar Industries, they would have gotten in addition, a distillery for the same price they paid the Chinese for the junk they sold us.
2. Mr. Ramoutar said that “done a joint venture with them [GuySuCo and Guyoil] to do a blend so that 10% of the gasoline that is being used could have been partially from ethanol.” There is no necessity to make a joint venture between these two state entities It is the kind of thinking which has led us to this situation.  GuySuCo can produce fuel grade ethanol and sell it to GEA, who would sell it to the local gas agencies and they would mix it to 10 % which is the maximum allowable mix without modifications to the current engines. Whilst Mr. Ramoutar’s government was mulling an unnecessary joint venture between Guyoil and GuySuCo to produce ethanol as a gasoline fuel additive, 20 other countries have passed laws mandating it. Twenty countries may not sound like much, but 20 sugar producing countries is a lot.
3.    He says that “our plan was to make the industry flexible like the Brazilian sugar industry is. When the price of sugar is high in the world market then they produce more for the world market, when the price is low then they produce more ethanol and sell abroad and so forth.” To the best of my knowledge his Government never seriously approached Brazil to help us to do this. These people are literally begging us for access to the ocean and to be partners with us in numerous ventures, and he very easily could have asked for their help. He did not.
4.    I have seen no evidence anywhere that “The Brazilian sugar industry is heavily subsidized by the government” I am not saying that there isn’t I am saying that I cannot find it.
5.    Incredibly Mr. Ramoutar makes the following observation “The sugar sector has received over $26 billion in budget support from the European Union (EU) since the end of preferential pricing. However, GuySuCo remains $82 billion in debt” in saying this, he summarizes the condition his government left the industry in after 23 years in office. i.e. a complete economic disaster.
6.    I have not heard that the COI has convinced the government that the only way forward is to close the industry down, but it is true that the COI has determined that the salary of the average cane cutter can be as high as G$2.9 million per year.
7.    It seems to me from reports of friends who attended the weekend meetings of GAWU that the workers are not the ones pushing to take industrial action at this time; it is Mr. Komal Chand of GAWU. In view of his political affiliations and in view of the Corporation’s reasonable position that the wage talks be delayed until the release of the findings of the COI, I would say that this strike is certainly suspiciously political. In view of the recent good weeks of production the industry has been showing, is the PPP jealous that after only less than 6 months in office, with the Collation Government’s handling of the day to day management of the corporation, the industry seems to be thriving at last? And their only response is to interrupt this flow of production with wild cat strikes? Is this reasonable or acceptable?
8.     The cost of labor today of the industry is G$20 billion, what does it mean? It means that the total expected sales of GuySuCo in 2016 will be 20 billion i.e. it will just cover the cost of labor, the other 16 billion the corporation needs to carry out its other functions, milling, capital, etc will be losses. I am shocked that the PPP can embark on this process of sabotage of the industry’s production, for narrow political ends. Since at this time with an industry tottering on the brink of insolvency, to encourage the workers to strike, in violation of the ‘avoidance and settlement of disputes’ agreement between the Union and the corporation, to the detriment of the workers, the government and the people of Guyana who have to support this industry with their hard earned taxes, is contemptuous.
Tony Vieira

 

FM
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Friday, November 6, 2015

Partnership needed to save sugar industry - Govt appeals to sugar workers

The Government of Guyana urges all sugar workers and their unions to help in rescuing the industry, which for the first time in years, has reached and surpassed weekly targets.

The Government encourages sugar workers to remain committed to their jobs and, with the holiday season approaching, to earn as much as they can before the current crop comes to an end.

The Government finds as most disturbing the agitation, mainly by GAWU, for workers to engage in strike action. Such action could cripple operations and close down the sugar industry. This is especially alarming and regrettable now that efforts are being made to breathe life into the industry.

Government has been looking at all options to revive the industry, which was placed in a state of bankruptcy and almost total ruin by the former government.

PERTINENT FACTS It is critical that sugar workers know the following pertinent facts:

• Production slumped from 327,000 metric tonnes in the 1960s to an average of below 250,000 tonnes between 2008 and 2014

• Under the former regime, the sugar industry never came close to realizing the promised 500,000 tonnes target

• Between 2009 and 2015 GuySuCo not only failed to make a profit but suffered estimated total losses of $67.8 BILLION

• When the last administration left office, GuySuCo’s debt burden stood at $82 BILLION

It is therefore irrefutable that under that administration, GuySuCo had lost its way.

It is for this reason that the Coalition Government supported a Commission of Inquiry into the sugar industry. The interim report has confirmed the poor and declining state of GuySuCo as a result of political interference, poor management and squandermania.

TEN YEAR ROAD MAP AND ACTION PLAN After a mere five months in office, the Coalition Government is seeking to put a Ten Year Road Map and Action Plan in place, aimed at returning the industry to viability. It would therefore be ill advised and indeed premature to commence wages talks before this plan is considered. Unions that seek to drag the sugar corporation to the table to do so are obviously pursuing a political agenda which unfortunately is not in the interest of sugar workers.

The Government has, for the first time, allowed management to run GuySuCo independently and to make into a top priority a lasting solution to secure employment and also to make the industry profitable.

$82 BILLION DEBT LOAD Due to its virtual insolvent status under the former regime, taxpayers were forced to dole out $28 BILLION in the last five years alone (2011 - 2015) to keep the sugar industry afloat. With its debt load of $82 BILLION and an expected $5 BILLION needed for capital investment together with anticipated further bailout in 2016, any strike action in the industry would bring sugar finally to its knees.Government appeals for the understanding and the full cooperation of all sugar workers at this time of great peril to ensure that production targets continue to be met.

BAILOUT FOR 2015 MAXED OUT The Coalition Government did not create the problems affecting the sugar industry. The blame ought to be placed elsewhere. It is government’s view that any industrial action at this time will place the industry into further jeopardy. Government is regrettably unable to increase the bailout package above the $12 BILLION for 2015 and strike action will not change this reality.

COI FINDINGS BEING ANALYSED In the meantime Government is analysing the interim findings and recommendations of the Commission of Inquiry. GAWU as an integral part of the COI ought to know that industrial agitation is not an option at this time. Government once again implores all sugar workers to steadfastly remain committed to the industry and to partner with management for its recovery.

FM

Why is the afc/apnu now quiet about ethanol production. Many of the loudmouths supporters of these incompetent government were bragging what they would do and not do once they get into power. The mentioned that they would kick out the Chinese, now we see Trottman embracing them with 2 year grace period to build lumber plant. We no longer hear about transparency and freedom of information from these creeps.  Long gone are the calls for prudence in spending as we see govt give themselves 50% raise. Crime is out of control as mostly Indians pay the brunt of the assault by afc/apnu bandits. Still all the supporters on this forum remain silent and go along with the incompetency of the goverment. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Why is the afc/apnu now quiet about ethanol production. Many of the loudmouths supporters of these incompetent government were bragging what they would do and not do once they get into power. The mentioned that they would kick out the Chinese, now we see Trottman embracing them with 2 year grace period to build lumber plant. We no longer hear about transparency and freedom of information from these creeps.  Long gone are the calls for prudence in spending as we see govt give themselves 50% raise. Crime is out of control as mostly Indians pay the brunt of the assault by afc/apnu bandits. Still all the supporters on this forum remain silent and go along with the incompetency of the goverment. 

Goadey Walla, what is debt load of Guysicko that the PPP/C left for the APNU+AFC?

Mitwah

I believe ethanol was produced at Albion in small amounts, as an experiment. Why did the PPP not increase it  and now dem blaming the government ?

 

Most in Guyana are lazy asses, they still believe it has to be handed to them on a silver platter, while they sit in rum-shops.

 

Like everything else, if the PPP and the  sugar workers  don't come onboard to assist the sugar industry to get better, all ah dem kok duk and the sugar industry might fail further.

 

If the PPP feel its all the government responsibility, dem people gun suffer first. The PPP don't care about people and might like this scenario, so they can use it for brownie points at elections. The PPP is nasty and vindictive.      

Tola

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