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Trump Jr.: Obama 'plagiarized' from my speech

Josh Elliott, CTVNews.ca, @joshelliott14, Published Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:55PM EDT,  Last Updated Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:58PM EDT, http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/tr...e_editors_picks=true

Donald Trump Jr. Donald Trump, Jr., son of Republican Presidential Candidate Donald Trump, is shown speaking during the second day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland on Tuesday, July 19, 2016.

Donald Trump Jr. claims Barack Obama "plagiarized" seven words from his speech at the Republican National Convention, during the president's address to Democrats on Wednesday.

The son of the Republican presidential nominee claimed on Twitter that Obama used his line, "That is not the America I know," during Obama's Democratic National Convention appearance.

"I'm honoured that POTUS would plagiarize a line from my speech last week," Trump wrote. "Where's the outrage?"

Trump said the words while talking about the changes his father will bring in, if he is elected.

"There's so much work to do," Trump Jr. said in his speech. "We will not accept the current state our country because it's too hard to change. That's not the America I know."

Obama evoked the phrase in his speech, to describe the elder Donald Trump's RNC address.

"What we heard was a deeply pessimistic vision of a country where we turn against each other, and turn away from the rest of the world," he said. "There were no serious solutions to pressing problems – just the fanning of resentment, and blame, and anger, and hate. And that is not the America I know."

But if Trump Jr. is hoping to lay claim to that particular sequence of seven words, he doesn't have much of a case. Former president George W. Bush used the same words in a 2002 speech on the Iraq war, and Obama used the words in a 2010 speech in Cleveland.

Trump also said "that's," not "that is," if we want to split hairs on the issue.

The accusation comes after Donald Trump Jr.'s stepmother, Melania Trump, was caught repurposing passages from a 2008 speech by Michelle Obama in her own speech at the RNC. Melania Trump faced widespread criticism for reusing the first lady's words, although her speechwriter later took the blame for the gaffe.

"A person she has always liked is Michelle Obama," Trump speechwriter Meredith McIver said, in a statement issued last week. "Over the phone, she read me some passages from Mrs. Obama's speech as examples. I wrote them down and later included some of the phrasing in the draft that ultimately became the final speech."

Melania Trump's speech included a reworked story originally told by Michelle Obama, about learning the value of hard work and honesty as a child.

Melania Trump echoed Obama in speaking about the values she learned as a child. Melania Trump said: "From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life, that your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise, that you treat people with respect. They taught and showed me values and morals in their daily life."

Michelle Obama said, in 2008: "And Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values: like, you work hard for what you want in life, that your word is your bond, that you do what you say you're going to do, that you treat people with dignity and respect, even if you don't know them and even if you don't agree with them."

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That is not the America I know.

President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat
Remarks by the President on Iraq
Cincinnati Museum Center - Cincinnati Union Terminal
Cincinnati, Ohio

October 7, 2002

Source --- https://georgewbush-whitehouse...2/10/20021007-8.html

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President George W. Bush delivers remarks on Iraq at the Cincinnati Museum Center in Cincinnati, Ohio, Monday night, Oct. 7, 2002. White House photo by Eric Draper.
President George W. Bush delivers remarks on Iraq at the Cincinnati Museum Center in Cincinnati, Ohio, Monday night, Oct. 7, 2002. White House photo by Eric Draper.

 

FM
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Cleveland – that is not the America I know.

 

Text of President Obama's prepared remarks at Cuyahoga Community College

By Plain Dealer staff , on September 08, 2010 at 1:52 PM, updated September 08, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Source --- http://www.cleveland.com/open/...nt_obamas_prepa.html

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President Barack Obama delivers remarks on the economy on Sept. 8, 2010, at the Cuyahoga Community College West Campus in Parma, Ohio. (Pablo Martinez Monsivais/Associated Press)

FM

I first heard of a place called America from my Current Studies teacher, Torani Saine. It was on the election of President Ike.

Guyana's turmoil with the USA interference kept focus of this place. A place out of reach. Little did I know, I will spend 50 years of my life experiencing its governance.

America is in decline. Trump is correct.  

This election year, America is asked to elected one out of the two worst statespersons to run for the office. Even the current President is full of pettiness, demeaning the Office of the President with his rhetoric.

In the past, out going Presidents observe in silence, knowing it is part of the process of upholding democracy. Freedom of Choice of the people. The same choice that got Obama elected. His demeanor is similar to a Third World politician. Very Poor. He should just shut up. 

Trump has more to show for the job.

 

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Nehru posted:

Bill Maher has a Nickname for him.

I don't know what Maher said bai but I am glad that both Bernie and Hillary didn't stoop to the ground like Trump where he is looking like a desperate trapped animal right now. That "can be baited by a tweet" statement was brilliant and will define Trump for the rest of this campaign because he will quantify it with his words and actions. He already had meltdowns the past two days and I am sure that meltdown will continue today. I feel he is quietly praying for an American disaster in the hope of gaining some edge. What a cretin manner to compete for something.

FM
Nehru posted:

Bill Maher has a Nickname for him.

Controversy, real or imaginable, fan the flames. The Trumps are experts.

As with many American tycoons, they try to fashion America through the elites organizations. The Roosevelt's and Kennedy's were families of influence. The Bush's tried with the scheme. The Clintons mold a bond with Black America. And now Obama is trying to woo the Blacks away for his influences, knowing after this election, the Clintons are finished.

Trump on the other hand has a stable full of children. He has set their ambitions on the track. He has achieved his goal, his children are now known. Winning the Presidency would just be another achievement for him.

Not every child could become President of America. Hilary is wrong. To be President of America, cunning is the operative.  

S
ksazma posted:
Nehru posted:

Bill Maher has a Nickname for him.

I don't know what Maher said bai but I am glad that both Bernie and Hillary didn't stoop to the ground like Trump where he is looking like a desperate trapped animal right now. That "can be baited by a tweet" statement was brilliant and will define Trump for the rest of this campaign because he will quantify it with his words and actions. He already had meltdowns the past two days and I am sure that meltdown will continue today. I feel he is quietly praying for an American disaster in the hope of gaining some edge. What a cretin manner to compete for something.

He doan have to pray for an American Disaster. He made himself, he doan pray for anything muchless a disaster. 

Why ppl following Trump words. And becoming like him. Those who disagree with him says he is Hateful. And in turn they say hateful things about him. Suh, how different, on an individual basis.

Trump has an energy on him. That energy is multiplied exponentially by all the negativity against him. Is like an organism that simply grows and grows.

If America was ever good country, then the anti-Trump rhetoric will make it into a terrible place.

The world has seen many times seen despotic leaders, they were not born that way. Influences mold them.

S
seignet posted:

I first heard of a place called America from my Current Studies teacher, Torani Saine. It was on the election of President Ike.

Guyana's turmoil with the USA interference kept focus of this place. A place out of reach. Little did I know, I will spend 50 years of my life experiencing its governance.

America is in decline. Trump is correct.  

This election year, America is asked to elected one out of the two worst statespersons to run for the office. Even the current President is full of pettiness, demeaning the Office of the President with his rhetoric.

In the past, out going Presidents observe in silence, knowing it is part of the process of upholding democracy. Freedom of Choice of the people. The same choice that got Obama elected. His demeanor is similar to a Third World politician. Very Poor. He should just shut up. 

Trump has more to show for the job.

 

True - outgoing Presidents do not get involved in a nominee's campaign.  Obama is overcompensating for what Hillary lacks.  He knows a Hillary win will be an Obama third term.  It will be more of the same.  Poor foreign policy and talk talk talk. 

Bibi Haniffa
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Donald Trump Jr. claims Barack Obama "plagiarized" seven words from his speech at the Republican National Convention, during the president's address to Democrats on Wednesday.

The son of the Republican presidential nominee claimed on Twitter that Obama used his line, "That is not the America I know," during Obama's Democratic National Convention appearance.

Obama evoked the phrase in his speech, to describe the elder Donald Trump's RNC address.

 

Donald Trump Jr.

Donald Trump, Jr., son of Republican Presidential Candidate Donald Trump, is shown speaking during the second day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland on Tuesday, July 19, 2016.


Trump Jr.: Obama 'plagiarized' from my speech, Josh Elliott, CTVNews.ca, @joshelliott14, Published Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:55PM EDT,  Last Updated Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:58PM EDT, http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/tr...e_editors_picks=true

Perhaps, it seems that this type of behaviour runs deeply in the family from Trump Sr to Trump Jr.

FM
seignet posted:
Nehru posted:

Bill Maher has a Nickname for him.

Controversy, real or imaginable, fan the flames. The Trumps are experts.

As with many American tycoons, they try to fashion America through the elites organizations. The Roosevelt's and Kennedy's were families of influence. The Bush's tried with the scheme. The Clintons mold a bond with Black America. And now Obama is trying to woo the Blacks away for his influences, knowing after this election, the Clintons are finished.

Trump on the other hand has a stable full of children. He has set their ambitions on the track. He has achieved his goal, his children are now known. Winning the Presidency would just be another achievement for him.

Not every child could become President of America. Hilary is wrong. To be President of America, cunning is the operative.  

The Trumps are experts at what bai?

I agree that he has a beautiful family. But what he did for them is expected since he is their father. The question is what has he done for others. Hillary started her adult life fighting for disadvantaged people. Kaine started his doing missionary work in Honduras. Obama started his helping in his depressed community as a Community activist.

Lastly, the tone of your statement above screams of all of Trump personal achievements and you ended it that him becoming President will be another one. Unfortunately for your dreams, personal achievement is not any of the job objectives of the President.

FM
seignet posted:

He doan have to pray for an American Disaster. He made himself, he doan pray for anything muchless a disaster. 

Why ppl following Trump words. And becoming like him. Those who disagree with him says he is Hateful. And in turn they say hateful things about him. Suh, how different, on an individual basis.

Trump has an energy on him. That energy is multiplied exponentially by all the negativity against him. Is like an organism that simply grows and grows.

If America was ever good country, then the anti-Trump rhetoric will make it into a terrible place.

The world has seen many times seen despotic leaders, they were not born that way. Influences mold them.

Most of the people following Trump are bigoted racial and non-college educated. You don't want to be in that class bai. Trump is starting to sound like Stalin.

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

True - outgoing Presidents do not get involved in a nominee's campaign.  Obama is overcompensating for what Hillary lacks.  He knows a Hillary win will be an Obama third term.  It will be more of the same.  Poor foreign policy and talk talk talk. 

Only because most outgoing Presidents don't enjoy a popularity rating of over 50%. Wasn't Bush like in the single digits? McCain did not want Bush nowhere near him in 2008. Obama is a rock star and people all over the world like him. The only people busting vessels are the Hannity types. Hannity moral compass is so low that he yells that his lies are truths. Most people would be ashamed but not Hannity. Last night Megyn Kelly straightened out Huckabee when he tried to lie for Trump. Kelly knows that her testimony got Ailes fired so she knows that she can puss her weight around. I can see her shifting away from that poisonous Fox News platform. Things are already beginning to change at Fox News. The two Fox News Early girls sit behind a news desk now. looks like they don't have to sit on those two uncomfortable stools anymore. I bet Fox News ratings drop when all that leg shows go away.  

FM
Demerara_Guy posted:
Donald Trump Jr. claims Barack Obama "plagiarized" seven words from his speech at the Republican National Convention, during the president's address to Democrats on Wednesday.

The son of the Republican presidential nominee claimed on Twitter that Obama used his line, "That is not the America I know," during Obama's Democratic National Convention appearance.

Obama evoked the phrase in his speech, to describe the elder Donald Trump's RNC address.

 

Donald Trump Jr.

Donald Trump, Jr., son of Republican Presidential Candidate Donald Trump, is shown speaking during the second day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland on Tuesday, July 19, 2016.


Trump Jr.: Obama 'plagiarized' from my speech, Josh Elliott, CTVNews.ca, @joshelliott14, Published Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:55PM EDT,  Last Updated Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:58PM EDT, http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/tr...e_editors_picks=true

Perhaps, it seems that this type of behaviour runs deeply in the family from Trump Sr to Trump Jr.

The Republican National Convention shows many signs of being put together very haphazardly. Looks like a lot of laziness prevailed including the laziness to construct original speeches.

Now Trump trying to distant himself from the poor image of that convention. Unfortunately he couldn't help himself with all his tweets last week of how wonderful the convention was.  Trump is this year's version of the 2008 'never see come to see' Sarah Palin.

FM

Listen one thing that Obama does well is talk. For a mediocre nonentity who looks like a character from a mob movie to think that Obama plagiarized him, based on the use of a generic sentence is a laugh.

Interesting that he only announces it today as the USA begins to focus on the fact that Trump is a con man and a clown, and even the GOP are embarrassed that this is who is their candidate.

FM

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