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Baseman posted:
Stormborn posted:
Sean posted:

America rejected crooked Hillary and they will reject Socialism and re-elect Donald Trump in 2020. Socialists can go sulk and suck salt.

Hey Hey Hey

Dumb as a skunk....3 million more Americans voted for her! Your socialism mantra is just an alt right key word. Even Bernie, the only declared socialist does not reject capitalism. 

That is irrelevant. Remove NY and Cal he’s up 1 mil.  The way it works with winner takes it all, the only relevant states are 3 or 4 swing states.  Those that are in the Red camp, he took his message, but he focused his resources on the swing and never bothered with the strong Blue states!  His team, headed by Jared Kushner, used the ROI approach and invested where there was payback!  It worked!

Given the divisiveness of the race, the Blue states had high turn out for Hillary and low Republican turn out.  But it mattered not.

If America was a PR system, electioneering would have been different!

NY and CA are part of the grand old USofA so why should they be removed? All states are relevant. It so happens the states you speak of are proportionately more dense with older white folks who have an anxiety about being replaced by immigrants. Fortunately these older folks are balanced by younger ones who do not feel the same way and they are the balance. As the founders would have it, the nation is composed of competing factions so it balances out. Georgia, Az, New Mexico Nevada etc are neutralizing the disproportionate ability of these few states to shape the presidency.  America's electoral system worked as designed and the anomaly is not the system but the unfortunate product it delivered up this time. But the system autocorrects. 

FM
Stormborn posted:
Baseman posted:
Stormborn posted:
Sean posted:

America rejected crooked Hillary and they will reject Socialism and re-elect Donald Trump in 2020. Socialists can go sulk and suck salt.

Hey Hey Hey

Dumb as a skunk....3 million more Americans voted for her! Your socialism mantra is just an alt right key word. Even Bernie, the only declared socialist does not reject capitalism. 

That is irrelevant. Remove NY and Cal he’s up 1 mil.  The way it works with winner takes it all, the only relevant states are 3 or 4 swing states.  Those that are in the Red camp, he took his message, but he focused his resources on the swing and never bothered with the strong Blue states!  His team, headed by Jared Kushner, used the ROI approach and invested where there was payback!  It worked!

Given the divisiveness of the race, the Blue states had high turn out for Hillary and low Republican turn out.  But it mattered not.

If America was a PR system, electioneering would have been different!

NY and CA are part of the grand old USofA so why should they be removed? All states are relevant. It so happens the states you speak of are proportionately more dense with older white folks who have an anxiety about being replaced by immigrants. Fortunately these older folks are balanced by younger ones who do not feel the same way and they are the balance. As the founders would have it, the nation is composed of competing factions so it balances out. Georgia, Az, New Mexico Nevada etc are neutralizing the disproportionate ability of these few states to shape the presidency.  America's electoral system worked as designed and the anomaly is not the system but the unfortunate product it delivered up this time. But the system autocorrects. 

It don’t matter. He fought the election by the rules defined in the USA. Ms ”arrogance” lost to the β€œdeplorables”!  Have you ever taken the time to understand why Trump won where Bernie Sanders and Obama had won?   Are they now β€œdeplorables?”

Now this will be take two!  Just like the last go around, keep barking up the wrong tree!

FM
Baseman posted:
Stormborn posted:
Baseman posted:
Stormborn posted:
Sean posted:

America rejected crooked Hillary and they will reject Socialism and re-elect Donald Trump in 2020. Socialists can go sulk and suck salt.

Hey Hey Hey

Dumb as a skunk....3 million more Americans voted for her! Your socialism mantra is just an alt right key word. Even Bernie, the only declared socialist does not reject capitalism. 

That is irrelevant. Remove NY and Cal he’s up 1 mil.  The way it works with winner takes it all, the only relevant states are 3 or 4 swing states.  Those that are in the Red camp, he took his message, but he focused his resources on the swing and never bothered with the strong Blue states!  His team, headed by Jared Kushner, used the ROI approach and invested where there was payback!  It worked!

Given the divisiveness of the race, the Blue states had high turn out for Hillary and low Republican turn out.  But it mattered not.

If America was a PR system, electioneering would have been different!

NY and CA are part of the grand old USofA so why should they be removed? All states are relevant. It so happens the states you speak of are proportionately more dense with older white folks who have an anxiety about being replaced by immigrants. Fortunately these older folks are balanced by younger ones who do not feel the same way and they are the balance. As the founders would have it, the nation is composed of competing factions so it balances out. Georgia, Az, New Mexico Nevada etc are neutralizing the disproportionate ability of these few states to shape the presidency.  America's electoral system worked as designed and the anomaly is not the system but the unfortunate product it delivered up this time. But the system autocorrects. 

It don’t matter. He fought the election by the rules defined in the USA. Ms ”arrogance” lost to the β€œdeplorables”!  Have you ever taken the time to understand why Trump won where Bernie Sanders and Obama had won?   Are they now β€œdeplorables?”

Now this will be take two!  Just like the last go around, keep barking up the wrong tree!

I would always define those who persistently follow that terrible human "deplorable". I know precisely why he won. He picked up states where Mrs Clinton neglect to visit having considered them a Democratic blue wall. He won by 75 K and garnered the necessary electoral college votes. And that is discounting the Russians hacking her email and Comey making his pronouncement that she "made mistakes" though not grievous ones so close to the elections. It may have caused her to lose many early voters and depress turn out. In any event, whomever the dems choose will not make the same mistake and now the Ogre has a record of living up to expectations. It would be a true miracle for him to pull the same inside straight. His vote ceiling has not improved.

FM
Stormborn posted:
Baseman posted:
Stormborn posted:
Baseman posted:
Stormborn posted:
Sean posted:

America rejected crooked Hillary and they will reject Socialism and re-elect Donald Trump in 2020. Socialists can go sulk and suck salt.

Hey Hey Hey

Dumb as a skunk....3 million more Americans voted for her! Your socialism mantra is just an alt right key word. Even Bernie, the only declared socialist does not reject capitalism. 

That is irrelevant. Remove NY and Cal he’s up 1 mil.  The way it works with winner takes it all, the only relevant states are 3 or 4 swing states.  Those that are in the Red camp, he took his message, but he focused his resources on the swing and never bothered with the strong Blue states!  His team, headed by Jared Kushner, used the ROI approach and invested where there was payback!  It worked!

Given the divisiveness of the race, the Blue states had high turn out for Hillary and low Republican turn out.  But it mattered not.

If America was a PR system, electioneering would have been different!

NY and CA are part of the grand old USofA so why should they be removed? All states are relevant. It so happens the states you speak of are proportionately more dense with older white folks who have an anxiety about being replaced by immigrants. Fortunately these older folks are balanced by younger ones who do not feel the same way and they are the balance. As the founders would have it, the nation is composed of competing factions so it balances out. Georgia, Az, New Mexico Nevada etc are neutralizing the disproportionate ability of these few states to shape the presidency.  America's electoral system worked as designed and the anomaly is not the system but the unfortunate product it delivered up this time. But the system autocorrects. 

It don’t matter. He fought the election by the rules defined in the USA. Ms ”arrogance” lost to the β€œdeplorables”!  Have you ever taken the time to understand why Trump won where Bernie Sanders and Obama had won?   Are they now β€œdeplorables?”

Now this will be take two!  Just like the last go around, keep barking up the wrong tree!

I would always define those who persistently follow that terrible human "deplorable". I know precisely why he won. He picked up states where Mrs Clinton neglect to visit having considered them a Democratic blue wall. He won by 75 K and garnered the necessary electoral college votes. And that is discounting the Russians hacking her email and Comey making his pronouncement that she "made mistakes" though not grievous ones so close to the elections. It may have caused her to lose many early voters and depress turn out. In any event, whomever the dems choose will not make the same mistake and now the Ogre has a record of living up to expectations. It would be a true miracle for him to pull the same inside straight. His vote ceiling has not improved.

There you go!  People who voted twice for Obama and for Bernie! The suddenly are β€œdeplorable?”

FM
Baseman posted:

There you go!  People who voted twice for Obama and for Bernie! The suddenly are β€œdeplorable?”

Base, what happened to the commission that Trump appointed to look into 3 million voted illegally? Man, you believe a NY con artist. Remember what Michael Bloomberg said about The Donald, "I am a New Yorker and I know a con artist when I see one."

FM
ronan posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Trump is a [] demagogue, racist  . . . They will rename the avenue and street to Barack Obama Avenue and Michelle Obama Avenue where his NY tower is. He might die from a heart attack.

dis place fulla joke

wan undereducated punk making a living pan GNI calling Afro-Americans β€œapes” and every variation of n!gger he can get away with now bitterly cussing Donald Trump as a β€œdemagogue” and β€œracist”

hmmmmm?

oh yes, and for good measure, cosying up to the β€˜memory’ of Barack and Michele Obama . . . imagine?

the same folks he (Skeldon_man) and his black face, wannabe-KKK Indo frenos [Ksazma, please raise yuh blacker-than-mine haan] running down as sub-human 24/7 . . . hollering that β€œblacks are the scourge of the worldβ€œ

Trump likely would buss a blood vessel laughing at these leprous fools . . . @ the irony

smfh

Dem swamp dwelling blacker dan black, wannabe KKK now muttering something about "endeavoring to be mindful of their pronouncements" or some such shit. He love fuh "free speech" done! Ah wonda why. He should post mo shit about "blacks are the scourge of the world" . People wanna see it!

FM
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Baseman posted:
Stormborn posted:
Sean posted:

America rejected crooked Hillary and they will reject Socialism and re-elect Donald Trump in 2020. Socialists can go sulk and suck salt.

Hey Hey Hey

Dumb as a skunk....3 million more Americans voted for her! Your socialism mantra is just an alt right key word. Even Bernie, the only declared socialist does not reject capitalism. 

That is irrelevant. Remove NY and Cal he’s up 1 mil.  The way it works with winner takes it all, the only relevant states are 3 or 4 swing states.  Those that are in the Red camp, he took his message, but he focused his resources on the swing and never bothered with the strong Blue states!  His team, headed by Jared Kushner, used the ROI approach and invested where there was payback!  It worked!

Given the divisiveness of the race, the Blue states had high turn out for Hillary and low Republican turn out.  But it mattered not.

If America was a PR system, electioneering would have been different!

Bai, NY and Cal cannot be removed. Those two states bankrolls the entire nation. 

FM

The reality was that Hillary was probably a bad choice as many found it too easy to vote against her. Trump did work his ass off during that campaign. I remember that Hillary had Bon Jovi with her in PA that last night while Trump made two stops one to Michigan around 1:30 on the morning of election day. No one can argue that Trump did not work his ass off but it is not winning the elections that is of relevance now. The Republicans would like to moan and groan that it is because that they can manage. What they cannot defend is Trump's crookedness before, and after becoming President. He is going down and it is by his own doing. Public testimony begins next week and even Lindsey Graham will not have anywhere to hide so he doesn't have to encounter it. 

FM

But Trump is about to shoot himself in his foot again. He said that he will be releasing an earlier phone call to Zelensky after Zelensky won the presidency in April. Given what we know of Trump, there would be something he said in that phone call that he will afterwards have to defend as he seems to have the habit of shooting himself. Then he will be forced to say that he doesn't know anything about that phone call just as he is constantly forced to say that he doesn't know all the people who eventually get fed up with his illegality and seek to separate themselves from him. It wouldn't be much longer that he will be forced to declare that even Melania is a never Trumper. 

FM
ksazma posted:
Baseman posted:
Stormborn posted:

Dumb as a skunk....3 million more Americans voted for her! Your socialism mantra is just an alt right key word. Even Bernie, the only declared socialist does not reject capitalism. 

That is irrelevant. Remove NY and Cal he’s up 1 mil.  The way it works with winner takes it all, the only relevant states are 3 or 4 swing states.  Those that are in the Red camp, he took his message, but he focused his resources on the swing and never bothered with the strong Blue states!  His team, headed by Jared Kushner, used the ROI approach and invested where there was payback!  It worked!

Given the divisiveness of the race, the Blue states had high turn out for Hillary and low Republican turn out.  But it mattered not.

If America was a PR system, electioneering would have been different!

Bai, NY and Cal cannot be removed. Those two states bankrolls the entire nation. 

This is irrelevant to the point I was making!  

BTW, there are structural reasons why funds are taken out of NY and Ca and redistributed to others states.  

FM

Typical Congressional Republicans stepping in their own shit. 

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) asked former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch about the origins of her nickname, Masha, seeming to suggest it was Ukrainian; Yovanovitch informed him it was actually Russian. Republicans also grilled her and her attorney about how her opening statement ended up in The Post.

FM

Must see tv starting this week. 

Congressional republicans are about to demonstrate how pathetic one must become in trying to defend the indefensible Donald Trump. Anyone who gets close to him eventually gets burned.

In the end, Trump would sit in his cold hard jail cell and wished that he had never allowed his envy and hatred of Obama to cause him to run for president. He could have continued his crooked private life unhampered by the disinterest of the vast majority of the US population.

FM

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