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As reported by Talking Points Memo editor Josh Marshall who noted that there is “a non-trivial and a substantial amount of evidence suggesting Putin-backed financial support for Trump or a non-tacit alliance between the two men.” Marshall pointed to how “Trump has been highly reliant on money from Russia,” Paul Manafort’s connection to Russia, and Trump’s foreign policy advisory, Carter Page, whose “entire professional career has revolved around investments in Russia.”

From a July 23 blog post:

 

Over the last year there has been a recurrent refrain about the seeming bromance between Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. More seriously, but relatedly, many believe Trump is an admirer and would-be emulator of Putin's increasingly autocratic and illiberal rule. But there's quite a bit more to the story. At a minimum, Trump appears to have a deep financial dependence on Russian money from persons close to Putin. And this is matched to a conspicuous solicitousness to Russian foreign policy interests where they come into conflict with US policies which go back decades through administrations of both parties. There is also something between a non-trivial and a substantial amount of evidence suggesting Putin-backed financial support for Trump or a non-tacit alliance between the two men.

1. All the other discussions of Trump's finances aside, his debt load has grown dramatically over the last year, from $350 million to $630 million. This is in just one year while his liquid assets have also decreased. Trump has been blackballed by all major US banks.

2. Post-bankruptcy Trump has been highly reliant on money from Russia, most of which has over the years become increasingly concentrated among oligarchs and sub-garchs close to Vladimir Putin. Here's a good overview from The Washington Post, with one morsel for illustration …

“Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on Russian investors to buy their properties around the world.

‘Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,’ Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. ‘We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”’

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4. Then there's Paul Manafort, Trump's nominal 'campaign chair' who now functions as campaign manager and top advisor. Manafort spent most of the last decade as top campaign and communications advisor for Viktor Yanukovych, the pro-Russian Ukrainian Prime Minister and then President whose ouster in 2014 led to the on-going crisis and proxy war in Ukraine. Yanukovych was and remains a close Putin ally. Manafort is running Trump's campaign.

5. Trump's foreign policy advisor on Russia and Europe is Carter Page, a man whose entire professional career has revolved around investments in Russia and who has deep and continuing financial and employment ties to Gazprom. If you're not familiar with Gazprom, imagine if most or all of the US energy industry were rolled up into a single company and it were personally controlled by the US President who used it as a source of revenue and patronage. That is Gazprom's role in the Russian political and economic system. It is no exaggeration to say that you cannot be involved with Gazprom at the very high level which Page has been without being wholly in alignment with Putin's policies. Those ties also allow Putin to put Page out of business at any time. 

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Krauts, Why dont they highjlight Wassermann's Likud connections! We will need Russian cooperation to rein the chaos in the world.  They can have Ukr and Georgia, give us back Venezuela and Cuba!!  

FM
ba$eman posted:

Krauts, Why dont they highjlight Wassermann's Likud connections! We will need Russian cooperation to rein the chaos in the world.  They can have Ukr and Georgia, give us back Venezuela and Cuba!!  

Israel is clearly not the global threat that Putin is. Lucky that Saddam and Gaddafi aren't still around, as Trump also admires them.

Why you would support a fascist is what astounds me. 

FM
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You guys are a bunch of low IQ babblers.  The fact remains, the emails did not lie, it was the truth.  The 3rd world politics is what we have in the WH and Democrats.  just think of the lies and cookishness which has crepopt into Washington politics.  this reads like Kenyan politics.  

FM
ba$eman posted:

You guys are a bunch of low IQ babblers.  The fact remains, the emails did not lie, it was the truth.  The 3rd world politics is what we have in the WH and Democrats.  just think of the lies and cookishness which has crepopt into Washington politics.  this reads like Kenyan politics.  

OK so tell us how exploiting workers and not paying them isn't also 3rd world politics, because this is Trump's mantra.

He squeals that Michigan workers make too much money.  He forgot to mention that in the campaign, but Hillary is sure to let them know.

FM
caribny posted:
ba$eman posted:

Krauts, Why dont they highjlight Wassermann's Likud connections! We will need Russian cooperation to rein the chaos in the world.  They can have Ukr and Georgia, give us back Venezuela and Cuba!!  

Israel is clearly not the global threat that Putin is. Lucky that Saddam and Gaddafi aren't still around, as Trump also admires them.

Why you would support a fascist is what astounds me. a

Ahh, shut you shameless corupt clown.  Crooked Hillary and her flock of crooked crows have been esed.  The emails were not made up, they are the truth. Your standards are that of a corrupt PNC gaining ligitimacy  by crookedness and you celebrated victory.  Fact is they won pre 1992 by crook and winning is what mattered to you!!

FM
ba$eman posted:
caribny posted:
ba$eman posted:

Krauts, Why dont they highjlight Wassermann's Likud connections! We will need Russian cooperation to rein the chaos in the world.  They can have Ukr and Georgia, give us back Venezuela and Cuba!!  

Israel is clearly not the global threat that Putin is. Lucky that Saddam and Gaddafi aren't still around, as Trump also admires them.

Why you would support a fascist is what astounds me. a

Ahh, shut you shameless corupt clown.  Crooked Hillary and her flock of crooked crows have been esed.  The emails were not made up, they are the truth. Your standards are that of a corrupt PNC gaining ligitimacy  by crookedness and you celebrated victory.  Fact is they won pre 1992 by crook and winning is what mattered to you!!

Russia trying to dictate AMerican political direction...courtesy of Paul Manafort and Trump

Why yuh think only Democrat emails hacked and released on the eve of their convention???

FM
ba$eman posted:

You guys are a bunch of low IQ babblers.  The fact remains, the emails did not lie, it was the truth.  The 3rd world politics is what we have in the WH and Democrats.  just think of the lies and cookishness which has crepopt into Washington politics.  this reads like Kenyan politics.  

3rd world is trying to be a strongman/dicktaker like Putin

FM

"1. All the other discussions of Trump's finances aside, his debt load has grown dramatically over the last year, from $350 million to $630 million. This is in just one year while his liquid assets have also decreased. Trump has been blackballed by all major US banks."

 

Yall Prez, hehehe

cain
RiffRaff posted:
ba$eman posted:
caribny posted:
ba$eman posted:

Krauts, Why dont they highjlight Wassermann's Likud connections! We will need Russian cooperation to rein the chaos in the world.  They can have Ukr and Georgia, give us back Venezuela and Cuba!!  

Israel is clearly not the global threat that Putin is. Lucky that Saddam and Gaddafi aren't still around, as Trump also admires them.

Why you would support a fascist is what astounds me. a

Ahh, shut you shameless corupt clown.  Crooked Hillary and her flock of crooked crows have been esed.  The emails were not made up, they are the truth. Your standards are that of a corrupt PNC gaining ligitimacy  by crookedness and you celebrated victory.  Fact is they won pre 1992 by crook and winning is what mattered to you!!

Russia trying to dictate AMerican political direction...courtesy of Paul Manafort and Trump

Why yuh think only Democrat emails hacked and released on the eve of their convention???

Perhaps, based on some of his closest named colleagues with direct involvement in the former USSR republics, Putin has a firm control on the way/manner of the campaign machinery for Trump.

FM

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