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Ukrainian jet that crashed in Tehran 'WAS hit by an Iranian missile in what was likely an accident, Pentagon and US intelligence officials say'

  • CCTV shows the burning plane lighting up a street before exploding in a fireball 
  • Separate footage from a car appears to confirm the plane was already on fire 
  • The Boeing jet suffered a fault in mid-air and tried to turn back, investigators say 
  • Iranian officials say the crew did not send a radio message to report the danger
  • Ukraine is sending missile experts to look for evidence of a possible shoot-down 
  • The plane disappeared from radar screens at 8,000 feet and crashed into a field
  • All 176 people on board were killed, including three Britons and 73 Canadians 

The Ukrainian Airlines flight which crashed in Tehran killing 176 people on Wednesday was shot down by an Iranian anti-aircraft missile system, Pentagon officials have said.

Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752 was struck by a Russia-built Tor-M1 surface-to-air missile system, three security officials told Newsweek.

Two of the officials said the aircraft was likely targeted by mistake by Iranian missile systems that were active on Wednesday night as Iran launched rockets at two US basis in Iraq, waiting for a possible counter-strike. 

Horrifying CCTV footage shows Ukrainian jet crashing in Iran
 An image from the flight tracker website Flightradar24 showing the path of the Ukranian International Airlines jet which crashed just over two minutes after taking off from Tehran

New footage shows the moment a burning Ukrainian passenger jet exploded into pieces yesterday - as Iran said the plane was trying to turn back after a technical fault but Ukraine sent missile specialists to inspect the wreckage. 

The CCTV footage shows the burning jet plane lighting up a dark street as it approaches before it explodes in a huge fireball. 

The explosion sends flaming debris from the Boeing 737 flying in all directions in a crash which killed all 176 people on board.  

Iranian television broadcast the footage today, while a separate 28-second clip taken from the front seat of a car appeared to confirm that the plane was already ablaze when it dropped out of the sky from 8,000 feet. 

Iran says the plane had suffered a technical fault, caught fire and started to head back to Tehran, but the crew did not make a radio call to raise the alarm.    

An initial Iranian report described the crash as an 'accident', although the black boxes have been damaged and parts of their memory lost. 

Nonetheless, Ukraine is continuing to probe a possible shoot-down and has sent a team of missile specialists to Iran to examine whether a Russian-made weapon could have brought down the plane. 

Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky today vowed to find the 'truth' as he declared a day of national mourning after the crash.   

All 167 passengers and nine crew were killed in the crash, including three Britons and 63 Canadians.

 

The crash came just hours after Iran fired missiles at US bases in revenge for the death of Qassem Soleimani, sparking fresh fears in the tense Middle East. 

However, the Iranian investigators are insisting that the plane suffered a technical fault unrelated to the tensions between Tehran and Washington. 

Witnesses on the ground and on board a nearby aircraft saw a fire 'growing in intensity' before the Ukrainian International Airlines jet came down, they say. 

'The plane, which was initially headed west to leave the airport zone, turned right following a problem and was headed back to the airport at the moment of the crash,' the Iranian Civil Aviation Organisation says. 

'The plane disappeared from radar screens the moment it reached 8,000 feet. The pilot sent no radio message about the unusual circumstances. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...ly-notifcation-small

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I saw an aviation disaster expert last night discussing this accident. He was of the opinion that the engine was on fire and that caused a massive failure. He looked at the damage to the engine and noted the burn spots, the impact area, and the nonimpacted area. He said some of the small holes on the plane could have been caused by the shrapnel from the plane exploding.

FM

Na bai Skelly, don't buy into fake news. You are a lot smarter than that to buy into fake new. What news channel had that "expert" on ? 

All major news outlet are now reporting Base's breaking news report. I just got one on my iPhone. Dem democrats who were backing the Iranians now have egg on their face. The Iranians are a ruthless people. Let us see how Blackface responds to this.

FM
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Sean posted:

Na bai Skelly, don't buy into fake news. You are a lot smarter than that to buy into fake new. What news channel had that "expert" on ? 

All major news outlet are now reporting Base's breaking news report. I just got one on my iPhone. Dem democrats who were backing the Iranians now have egg on their face. The Iranians are a ruthless people. Let us see how Blackface responds to this.

Bai let's wait for the black-box analysis. It could have been shot down. Why would Iran shoot a passenger plane down in their own air space? Could it be that the US shot it down thinking it was an Iranian plane? How about Israel?

FM
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

I was wondering if one of those missiles strayed and hit the passenger airliner.  Let's wait for more reports.

Nah, they were huge missiles and few hours after.  They believe the air defenses were on and one could have mistook this as an incoming US military jet.

If it was so, then the Iranians were very careless and weak in the command.  They ok the flight.  How did their defense not know?

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Sean posted:

Na bai Skelly, don't buy into fake news. You are a lot smarter than that to buy into fake new. What news channel had that "expert" on ? 

All major news outlet are now reporting Base's breaking news report. I just got one on my iPhone. Dem democrats who were backing the Iranians now have egg on their face. The Iranians are a ruthless people. Let us see how Blackface responds to this.

Bai let's wait for the black-box analysis. It could have been shot down. Why would Iran shoot a passenger plane down in their own air space? Could it be that the US shot it down thinking it was an Iranian plane? How about Israel?

Iran is refusing to hand over the black box. Case closed. They shot down the plane.

FM
Sean posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Sean posted:

Na bai Skelly, don't buy into fake news. You are a lot smarter than that to buy into fake new. What news channel had that "expert" on ? 

All major news outlet are now reporting Base's breaking news report. I just got one on my iPhone. Dem democrats who were backing the Iranians now have egg on their face. The Iranians are a ruthless people. Let us see how Blackface responds to this.

Bai let's wait for the black-box analysis. It could have been shot down. Why would Iran shoot a passenger plane down in their own air space? Could it be that the US shot it down thinking it was an Iranian plane? How about Israel?

Iran is refusing to hand over the black box. Case closed. They shot down the plane.

Maskita Paan Sean: Iran said they will allow either France or Canada to do the analysis. Do you want to give your enemy a machine gun to kill you?

FM
Baseman posted:

Ukrainian jet that crashed in Tehran 'WAS hit by an Iranian missile in what was likely an accident, Pentagon and US intelligence officials say'

The Ukrainian Airlines flight which crashed in Tehran killing 176 people on Wednesday was shot down by an Iranian anti-aircraft missile system, Pentagon officials have said.

Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752 was struck by a Russia-built Tor-M1 surface-to-air missile system, three security officials told Newsweek.

Two of the officials said the aircraft was likely targeted by mistake by Iranian missile systems that were active on Wednesday night as Iran launched rockets at two US basis in Iraq, waiting for a possible counter-strike.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...ly-notifcation-small

Speculations at best.

One needs to wait when the completed investigations and results.

FM
Sean posted:
Ray posted:
Sean posted:
Ray posted:
Sean posted:

It is sad to see how some Democrat Americans are showing hate towards America ! They should go and try drinking rum and booze in Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Wait until US take over Canada

Not a problem. How quickly ?

we already own half

Why wait, tek the other half.

Canada should throw yuh out...yuh is ah sell out to the country that took you in

FM
Ray posted:

Ruthless and cruel...?

Please, when it comes to ruthless and cruel, do your homework on US...they are no angels

Ray posted:

Bush dropped bombs on hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis

United States claimed FALSELY Iraq had weapons of mass destruction; hence their intervention in the country.

One of the numerous articles describing the United States unacceptable activities accusing Iraq of having weapons of mass destruction ... hence the US actions ...

Iraq and weapons of mass destruction

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Source -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._of_mass_destruction

Iraq actively researched and later employed weapons of mass destruction (WMD) from 1962 to 1991, when it destroyed its chemical weapons stockpile and halted its biological and nuclear weapon programs as required by the United Nations Security Council.[1] The fifth President of Iraq, Saddam Hussein, was internationally condemned for his use of chemical weapons during the 1980s campaign against Iranian and Kurdish civilians during and after the Iran–Iraq War. In the 1980s, Saddam pursued an extensive biological weapons program and a nuclear weapons program, though no nuclear bomb was built.

After the Persian Gulf War (1990–1991), the United Nations (with the Government of Iraq) located and destroyed large quantities of Iraqi chemical weapons and related equipment and materials; Iraq ceased its chemical, biological and nuclear programs.[2]

In the early 2000s, the administrations of George W. Bush and Tony Blair asserted that Saddam Hussein's weapons programs were still actively building weapons, and that large stockpiles of WMDs were hidden in Iraq.

Inspections by the UN to resolve the status of unresolved disarmament questions restarted between November 2002 and March 2003,[3] under United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441, which demanded Hussein give "immediate, unconditional and active cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspections, shortly before his country was attacked.[4] The United States asserted that Hussein's frequent lack of cooperation was a breach of Resolution 1441, but failed to convince the United Nations Security Council to pass a new resolution authorizing the use of force due to lack of evidence.[5][6][7]

Despite this, Bush asserted peaceful measures could not disarm Iraq of the weapons he alleged it to have and launched a second Gulf War instead.

A year later, the United States Senate officially released the Senate Report of Pre-war Intelligence on Iraq which concluded that many of the Bush Administration's pre-war statements about Iraqi WMD were misleading and not supported by the underlying intelligence.

United States-led inspections later found that Iraq had earlier ceased active WMD production and stockpiling; the war was called by many, including 2008 Republican presidential nominee John McCain in a memoir, a "mistake".[1]

Source and rest of article --

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._of_mass_destruction

FM
Demerara_Guy posted:
Ray posted:

Ruthless and cruel...?

Please, when it comes to ruthless and cruel, do your homework on US...they are no angels

Ray posted:

Bush dropped bombs on hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis

United States claimed FALSELY Iraq had weapons of mass destruction; hence their intervention in the country.

One of the numerous articles describing the United States unacceptable activities accusing Iraq of having weapons of mass destruction ... hence the US actions ...

Iraq and weapons of mass destruction

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Source -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._of_mass_destruction

Iraq actively researched and later employed weapons of mass destruction (WMD) from 1962 to 1991, when it destroyed its chemical weapons stockpile and halted its biological and nuclear weapon programs as required by the United Nations Security Council.[1] The fifth President of Iraq, Saddam Hussein, was internationally condemned for his use of chemical weapons during the 1980s campaign against Iranian and Kurdish civilians during and after the Iran–Iraq War. In the 1980s, Saddam pursued an extensive biological weapons program and a nuclear weapons program, though no nuclear bomb was built.

After the Persian Gulf War (1990–1991), the United Nations (with the Government of Iraq) located and destroyed large quantities of Iraqi chemical weapons and related equipment and materials; Iraq ceased its chemical, biological and nuclear programs.[2]

In the early 2000s, the administrations of George W. Bush and Tony Blair asserted that Saddam Hussein's weapons programs were still actively building weapons, and that large stockpiles of WMDs were hidden in Iraq.

Inspections by the UN to resolve the status of unresolved disarmament questions restarted between November 2002 and March 2003,[3] under United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441, which demanded Hussein give "immediate, unconditional and active cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspections, shortly before his country was attacked.[4] The United States asserted that Hussein's frequent lack of cooperation was a breach of Resolution 1441, but failed to convince the United Nations Security Council to pass a new resolution authorizing the use of force due to lack of evidence.[5][6][7]

Despite this, Bush asserted peaceful measures could not disarm Iraq of the weapons he alleged it to have and launched a second Gulf War instead.

A year later, the United States Senate officially released the Senate Report of Pre-war Intelligence on Iraq which concluded that many of the Bush Administration's pre-war statements about Iraqi WMD were misleading and not supported by the underlying intelligence.

United States-led inspections later found that Iraq had earlier ceased active WMD production and stockpiling; the war was called by many, including 2008 Republican presidential nominee John McCain in a memoir, a "mistake".[1]

Source and rest of article --

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._of_mass_destruction

Stale news, we all know that and Hillary and Biden voted for, while Warren, Sanders against and private citizen Trump opposed.

And don't forget Libya where Obama went after Gadaffi and Hillary danced in Germany as he was caught, tortured, dragged and shot in thew desert like a dog.  Hillary is actually a sick person.

In military conflict zones such accidents happen, remember;

The US shot down an Iranian passenger plane in the late 1989/1990.

The Ukr rebels shot down a Malaysian passenger plane flying over.

In the mid-80's the USSR shot down a Korean passenger plane mistaking it for a US spy plane.

If this turns out to be true, this must be the worst of all those incidents and would look bad on the Iranians!

FM
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Baseman posted:

Stale news, we all know that and Hillary and Biden voted for, while Warren, Sanders against and private citizen Trump opposed.

And don't forget Libya where Obama went after Gadaffi and Hillary danced in Germany as he was caught, tortured, dragged and shot in thew desert like a dog.  Hillary is actually a sick person.

In military conflict zones such accidents happen, remember;

The US shot down an Iranian passenger plane in the late 1989/1990.

The Ukr rebels shot down a Malaysian passenger plane flying over.

In the mid-80's the USSR shot down a Korean passenger plane mistaking it for a US spy plane.

If this turns out to be true, this must be the worst of all those incidents and would look bad on the Iranians!

Blaah blaaah blaaaaaaaaah with more of your nonsense.

FM
Demerara_Guy posted:
Baseman posted:

Stale news, we all know that and Hillary and Biden voted for, while Warren, Sanders against and private citizen Trump opposed.

And don't forget Libya where Obama went after Gadaffi and Hillary danced in Germany as he was caught, tortured, dragged and shot in thew desert like a dog.  Hillary is actually a sick person.

In military conflict zones such accidents happen, remember;

The US shot down an Iranian passenger plane in the late 1989/1990.

The Ukr rebels shot down a Malaysian passenger plane flying over.

In the mid-80's the USSR shot down a Korean passenger plane mistaking it for a US spy plane.

If this turns out to be true, this must be the worst of all those incidents and would look bad on the Iranians!

Blaah blaaah blaaaaaaaaah with more of your nonsense.

Shitabatty, isn't everything I stated there true?

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Sean posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Sean posted:

Na bai Skelly, don't buy into fake news. You are a lot smarter than that to buy into fake new. What news channel had that "expert" on ? 

All major news outlet are now reporting Base's breaking news report. I just got one on my iPhone. Dem democrats who were backing the Iranians now have egg on their face. The Iranians are a ruthless people. Let us see how Blackface responds to this.

Bai let's wait for the black-box analysis. It could have been shot down. Why would Iran shoot a passenger plane down in their own air space? Could it be that the US shot it down thinking it was an Iranian plane? How about Israel?

Iran is refusing to hand over the black box. Case closed. They shot down the plane.

Maskita Paan Sean: Iran said they will allow either France or Canada to do the analysis. Do you want to give your enemy a machine gun to kill you?

Canadian PM juss announced that Iran shot down the Plane. Bai, all you need to stop watching and listening to fake news. CNN got all you brainwashed. 

FM
Baseman posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Baseman posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:

Blaah blaaah blaaaaaaaaah with more of your nonsense.

Shitabatty,

isn't everything I stated there true?

Baseman, you choice to publish publicly that your batty is full of shyte.

Schitabatty, answer the question.  Were what I stated not true?

Esteemed Shittabatty Baseman - relevance, relevance, relevance of your long winded nonsense.

FM
Baseman posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Baseman posted:

Schitabatty, answer the question.  Were what I stated not true?

Esteemed Shittabatty Baseman - relevance, relevance, relevance of your long winded nonsense.

You have little relevance to any topic!

Excellent .. excellent ... wonderful ...

Baseman finally telling himself in front of the mirror that he-Baseman has little relevance to any topic on GNI.  

FM
Prince posted:

We still have to wait for the full investigation to determine the cause of the crash. 

Iran admits to unintentionally shooting down Ukrainian plane.

Thousands of people gathered in front of the gate of Amirkabir University of Technology not far from the former US Embassy in Tehran on Saturday in anti-government protests.

The students were originally set to gather for a vigil ceremony to commemorate the victims of the downed Ukrainian Airlines plane, but the mood of the crowd shifted to anger, Iran’s semi-official FARS News Agency reported.

Across social media people posted the following:

“The Chief Commander of all army forces (Supreme Leader) must resign.”

“Resignation is not enough. The responsible must be tried.” 

“Death to dictator.”

“IRGC, resignation, resignation. Leave the power.”

FM

Trump must be the luckiest man alive.  

He took out a top general, everyone up in arms, even Justin and the Democratic  opposition, then Iranians gave a “non-response” and shot down a passenger plane in the process. Now the world forgot the General and are condemning Iran, even domestic protests erupted in Iran, while Trump sits back at home sipping eggnog and egg-on the protesters.

That banna could really shoot someone in 5th Ave and get away with it.

FM

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