It's time for the US to stop supporting Israel's bullying of our helpless Palestinians brothers and sisters. Netanyahu is the world's most notorious terrorist.

Let's see how President Trump will deal with him.

He already stated how he will deal with him.

Nehru posted:

He already stated how he will deal with him.

His sons will be building hotels in Israel, wink wink. Lots of Shekels coming his way.

Donald and fAMILY ONLY KNOW HOW TO PROFIT IN LIFE. DONT EXPECT THEM TO CHANGE NOW. dAT WOULD BE LIKE ASKING DOG TO STOP SUCK EGGS.

Notwithstanding the actions of some Palestinians, the responsibility of Israel to correct their actions is still valid and should be honored. Israel has been for a very long time the powerful player in the longest standing conflict in the Middle East. Granted that the Israelis don't subscribe to the books of the New Testament so they would feel no obligation to respect Luke 12:48 “But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more”  but that is how it usually is.

Obama may have been late but kudos that he did it as it was way overdue for the greatest nation in the world to take a decent stand on this conflict.  

ksazma posted:

Notwithstanding the actions of some Palestinians, the responsibility of Israel to correct their actions is still valid and should be honored.

Israel has been for a very long time the powerful player in the longest standing conflict in the Middle East.

Obama may have been late but kudos that he did it as it was way overdue for the greatest nation in the world to take a decent stand on this conflict.  

Of note ...

1. Shortly after WWII, the decision was to create two separate states -- Palestine and Israel.

2. in 1948 Israel proceeded under the leadership of Ben Gurion to unilaterally declare itself an independent country.

3. Meanwhile and until today, there is yet to be declared the independent state of Palestine.

Also of note ... around WW I - One - urgent discussions on the formation of the two states of Palestine and Israel took firm stand which however failed in 1948.

Nehru posted:

He already stated how he will deal with him.

Mr. Trump says one thing and then do a 180.

LET the games begin.

Only in America would voters with no state pressure chose a thief to guard the money in the bank.

Netanyahu holding on to power by depending on ultra orthodox parties. Those ultra orthodox parties want no peace with the Palestinians. The United Nations did the right thing.

Israel already stated that it will not abide with this resolution and why should it? For over 50 years, Israel has been allowed to defy multiple UN resolutions as they raped the land away from the Palestinians. As idealistic as the United States is in championing human rights, it also have the shameful legacy of legitimizing the abomination illustrated below. And don't for one minute think that people in those little green dotted areas in the 2010 image live freely. They are patrolled by Israeli military police 24/7 365 1/4.

Israel is a Middle East bully because of the United States. Imagine in America, how many people go hungry on a daily basis, depend for a handout from other people? And here we have the US government ignoring this and giving money to Jews to kill our Palestinian brothers. What happens to "charity begins at home"? Why is our education falling behind other countries? Why can't this blood money be spent on education and homelessness instead?

skeldon_man posted:

Israel is a Middle East bully because of the United States. Imagine in America, how many people go hungry on a daily basis, depend for a handout from other people? And here we have the US government ignoring this and giving money to Jews to kill our Palestinian brothers. What happens to "charity begins at home"? Why is our education falling behind other countries? Why can't this blood money be spent on education and homelessness instead?

Simple. Lobbyists. Shameful how many churches over here support Israel killing Christian Palestinians. While it is not difficult to understand why churches over here would have no problem supporting Israel killing Muslim Palestinians but it is hard pressed to understand why they support them killing Christian Palestinians except that they see those Christian Palestinians as collateral damage.

ba$eman posted:

...why did he wait so late to act when the Obama administration will have no role going forward.  This issue should have been acted upon in such a strong manner early into the 2nd term.

Israeli apartheid must be confronted and the rights of the Palestinians must be respected!

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/25/...tanyahu-ambassadors/

Obama is, contrary to Israel, not a party to this but it is clear he is against the expansion of settlements. This has been the policy of all US presidents. They are just making shi.t up. The change here is Obama did not veto the UN resolution.

Israel is the sore on the backside of the world. Radical Muslims may be the religious nuts we do not tolerate but we tolerate a similar fanaticism in Israel for no reason except we want to maintain the fantasy that they do not manifest similarly.

The Israeli positions are  not reconcilable with reason or tolerated in any expression of modern politics any place else so any pretense  of a reasoned opinion here is plainly treading on hypocrisy.Here are a people using the argument from primordialism to claim territory when we do not let the same argument manifest itself anywhere else without howls of protest about illegal incursions etc. Israel's intent is to appropriate the lands completely from the sea to the Jordan river. Their howl here is because of the history of looking at what they do through rose colored glasses.

Of course it also happens because there has never been any sensible authority representing the Palestinians. There is no Dr King or Ghandi on their side able to mobilize public sentiment for their cause. They chose to fight rather than build a non violent and powerful representation of the indignities they face because of their religion and culture. They are their worse enemies and while I disagree with Israel I will not stand with the Palestinians as they are represented. If they did of fight the jews could not deliberately exclude them. By sheer numbers they could win.

Many in the west don't realize that almost all Palestinians are white people and some are Christian. they think all Palestinians are muslim paki looking terrorists.

Prashad posted:

Many in the west don't realize that almost all Palestinians are white people and some are Christian. they think all Palestinians are muslim paki looking terrorists.

Kaz called you out earlier, again you are trying to insult Muslims.

What! you ever see a real Palestinian

In fact one Palestinian cab driver almost had a heart attack when I ask him if he was Pakistani. He said hell no I am white. He said most of us Palestinians are white with just a few blacks. So chief you and kazama can haul your brown hating behinds.

That is not the only time. Another Palestinian cab driver told me because he is white the Canadians usually tell him how they really feel and think about immigrants. I wanted to tell him man it looks like his whiteness does not work with the Jews.

Chief posted:

Nehru posted:

He already stated how he will deal with him.

Mr. Trump says one thing and then do a 180.

LET the games begin.

I do not believe the actions of Obama did not have a hood-wink from Trump!  Trump stayed away from any blanket endorsement of Israel during the campaign prompting some to say he is anti-semetic.

Obama's parting shot will put a few cards in the hands of Trump in dealing with Israel! Maybe we see another before Jan 20th!  Netanyahu got a good taste of who is president!  I congratulate Obama on this move!

The two state solution is the only way forward. Violence only leads to more violence. Israel has nuclear weapons they are not going anywhere. Peace is the only way forward.

Well said Base.

AS I saidlet's see what happens after the 20th.

Israel has been a wayward child for the USA and for what we have seen from Mr. Trump he has little or no tolerance for such nonsense, especially if he is footing the bill.

How he deal with Israel will shape his Presidency.

Trump daughter and son in law are orthodox jews you can bet they will put pressure on him to be soft on israel.

Prashad posted:

Trump daughter and son in law are orthodox jews you can bet they will put pressure on him to be soft on israel.

Trump is not a man who takes advise and direction.

See what happen to Guiliani and Fat boy?

Chief you got a point there.

Prashad posted:

Trump daughter and son in law are orthodox jews you can bet they will put pressure on him to be soft on israel.

There are Jews in Israel who want peace with the Palestinians.  I can see Trump wanting his daughter and son-in-law written in history and this might be his horse.  This is where Trump's big ego could actually serve others well!  Trump also wants his name in history!

Well people such as Rasputin and Hitler's name is written in history, so no problem there.

Trump will thank Obama for this resolution!  Israeli lobbyist and supporters within his own party will try to stymie his efforts if he gets tough with Israel.  Israel will have to play ball as this is UNSC (Russia, China, France, UK and other), not US Congressional action.

Once again, I commend Obama on this and hopes this rumored 2nd resolution also goes thru!  Netanyhu and his settler-class bullies can go suck it up!

I have to agree with Kazama Israel will ignore the resolution like how they ignore every resolution in the past.

Prashad posted:

I have to agree with Kazama Israel will ignore the resolution like how they ignore every resolution in the past.

Israel only was able to do that because of US complicity.  This is why I said, it's an instrument in Trump's hands.  He can play it which ever way!

I think that if the US were to parcel off a piece of land that allows the Palestinians to live in dignity that is autonomous and free from the intrusion of the Israeli military the Palestinians would be happy and grateful. It has to be sufficient and not scattered or appear to be Israel's throw away trash. So far, all we have done is tell the Palestinians to eat Israel's trash or starve. I post again Israel's atrocity over the past 6 decades.

Here is the Kuwait area that Saddam Hussein invaded which eventually caused the destruction of his Republican Guards, country and life. Yes, that little area marked out in red.

Justice is supposed to be blind or it really isn't just.

The US government must recognise the Palestine state ASAP or the resolution means nothing ....

The Israeli settlements don't make any sense except for the economy of cheap houses and cheap land. It is like us East Indians going to live in the back of Buxton because it is cheap. Our lives will always be on the line because of intense hate.

PPP created Buxton about how bad it is.

And you weaklings  fall for that.

Chief posted:

PPP created Buxton about how bad it is.

And you weaklings  fall for that.

Please dont speak of things you are ignorant of!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chief posted:

PPP created Buxton about how bad it is.

And you weaklings  fall for that.

Like Yuji bax you up. Ketch you sense b4 you post.

Chief posted:

PPP created Buxton about how bad it is.

And you weaklings  fall for that.

You guys, don't insult the oppressed Palestinians by lumping them in the same sentence as the criminals in Buxton!

Baseman I am not lumping them. I am just saying that the level of intense hate is the same.

Nehru posted:

Chief posted:

PPP created Buxton about how bad it is.

And you weaklings  fall for that.

Please dont speak of things you are ignorant of!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is bad about Buxton?

Is it because it is an Afro Village?

Chief posted:

Nehru posted:

Chief posted:

PPP created Buxton about how bad it is.

And you weaklings  fall for that.

Please dont speak of things you are ignorant of!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is bad about Buxton?

Is it because it is an Afro Village?

Chief, Buxton is an afro village with a cesspool of criminals.