Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Don't be surprised if the PNC use the current conflict with Venezuela to declare a state of emergency and then postpone elections due by April.

Dem aiming fuh datt.  

ksazma posted:

Django posted:

Sheik101 posted:

Django posted:

 

Ok seems we are on the same page, National Security is foremost. Guyana is not giving a blade of grass.In the mean time the parties are working out the implications of the NCM, and are gearing towards Elections.

Not a blade a grass. Aaa....yes. Those were the days when as a youth every man jack was a patriot. Standing up in the cinema when the National Anthem played

Bhai Sheik, although i despised Burnham, my allegiance while living there was to Guyana.My heart was heavy when i gave up my citizenship.The political leadership of the country caused that.

It wasn't the same for me. I left in 1987 while the PNC were in government and they behaved like Indians didn't belong in Guyana. You were lucky that you had a taste of the PPP government before you left. That is why you had a heavy heart when you gave up your citizenship. 

Honestly never felt that way due to stand up for my rights, no one can walk over me easily.The PPP haven't accomplished much to brag about.

Django posted:

Sheik101 posted:

Django posted:

Baseman posted:

Django posted:

Baseman posted:

 

Bandits.  Maduro did not sponsor the NCV.  It was a son of the soil.  Suck it up.  Bart said it’s carried ‘

Noticeably you are on the same page with others, probably you agree with Seignet.

Keep on rolling with the crew.

Don’t bring Datt low talk skites to Base.  I said this morning GDF needs a Luftwaffe to blow those conquistadors out of our skies. 

Dont mix up my support for adherence to the constitution as support for the enemy.  That’s cheap low ball politicking!

Ok seems we are on the same page, National Security is foremost. Guyana is not giving a blade of grass.In the mean time the parties are working out the implications of the NCM, and are gearing towards Elections.

Not a blade a grass. Aaa....yes. Those were the days when as a youth every man jack was a patriot. Standing up in the cinema when the National Anthem played

Bhai Sheik, although i despised Burnham, my allegiance while living there was to Guyana.My heart was heavy when i gave up my citizenship.The political leadership of the country caused that.

Some people are just blinded by race and party affiliation and still claim they have the country's interests at heart.

Sheik101 posted:

ksazma posted:

Django posted:

Sheik101 posted:

Django posted:

 

Ok seems we are on the same page, National Security is foremost. Guyana is not giving a blade of grass.In the mean time the parties are working out the implications of the NCM, and are gearing towards Elections.

Not a blade a grass. Aaa....yes. Those were the days when as a youth every man jack was a patriot. Standing up in the cinema when the National Anthem played

Bhai Sheik, although i despised Burnham, my allegiance while living there was to Guyana.My heart was heavy when i gave up my citizenship.The political leadership of the country caused that.

It wasn't the same for me. I left in 1987 while the PNC were in government and they behaved like Indians didn't belong in Guyana. You were lucky that you had a taste of the PPP government before you left. That is why you had a heavy heart when you gave up your citizenship. 

Sorry Ksaz, Django. I still maintain my Guyanese papel. I didnt give up nothing.

You didn't swear allegiance to the country of residence ?

GTAngler posted:

Django posted:

Sheik101 posted:

Django posted:

Baseman posted:

Django posted:

Baseman posted:

 

Bandits.  Maduro did not sponsor the NCV.  It was a son of the soil.  Suck it up.  Bart said it’s carried ‘

Noticeably you are on the same page with others, probably you agree with Seignet.

Keep on rolling with the crew.

Don’t bring Datt low talk skites to Base.  I said this morning GDF needs a Luftwaffe to blow those conquistadors out of our skies. 

Dont mix up my support for adherence to the constitution as support for the enemy.  That’s cheap low ball politicking!

Ok seems we are on the same page, National Security is foremost. Guyana is not giving a blade of grass.In the mean time the parties are working out the implications of the NCM, and are gearing towards Elections.

Not a blade a grass. Aaa....yes. Those were the days when as a youth every man jack was a patriot. Standing up in the cinema when the National Anthem played

Bhai Sheik, although i despised Burnham, my allegiance while living there was to Guyana.My heart was heavy when i gave up my citizenship.The political leadership of the country caused that.

Some people are just blinded by race and party affiliation and still claim they have the country's interests at heart.

Boggles your mind about these folks.

Sheik101 posted:

D2 posted: D2, since the confrontation with venezuelan warships, the Exxon mobile vessels have not returned to the site but are expected to do so in the future. So said Carl Greenidge. I dont know what to say here. However, in view of this foreign mercenary army u have in mind, take note that the area of interests have changed. The protection would now be needed for off shore Rigs. Does your mercenaries u have in mind have naval power? Google the venezuelan Navy.

They are not my mercenaries.  These are fully armed, ready with men planes and helis and boats war machines  for hire on demand . The US Uses them all over the world as security. I am sure you heard some of the names, Halliburton, Blackwater, AEGIS.

 They are fighting all over the globe. They were used in Angolia, Mali, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Iraq  etc. I am saying that we spend money at the international court where the Venoes will not accept it.

Like any business we need a body guard. We can have a thousand men for a hundred million a year protecting what we would not have otherwise. The US are using them to protect their oil assets.   

Django posted:

Sheik101 posted:

Django posted:

Baseman posted:

Django posted:

Baseman posted:

 

Bandits.  Maduro did not sponsor the NCV.  It was a son of the soil.  Suck it up.  Bart said it’s carried ‘

Noticeably you are on the same page with others, probably you agree with Seignet.

Keep on rolling with the crew.

Don’t bring Datt low talk skites to Base.  I said this morning GDF needs a Luftwaffe to blow those conquistadors out of our skies. 

Dont mix up my support for adherence to the constitution as support for the enemy.  That’s cheap low ball politicking!

Ok seems we are on the same page, National Security is foremost. Guyana is not giving a blade of grass.In the mean time the parties are working out the implications of the NCM, and are gearing towards Elections.

Not a blade a grass. Aaa....yes. Those were the days when as a youth every man jack was a patriot. Standing up in the cinema when the National Anthem played

Bhai Sheik, although i despised Burnham, my allegiance while living there was to Guyana.My heart was heavy when i gave up my citizenship.The political leadership of the country caused that.

So you give up your right as a Guyanese, you were bought by the mighty USA. So when I talk you listen, I am a Guyanese till I die, I have a current passport plus a Canadian passport. My Mother Country will always be Guyana although I left 1979 for Canada.

 I am afraid you cannot share the OIL wealth.

Sheik101 posted:

ksazma posted:

It wasn't the same for me. I left in 1987 while the PNC were in government and they behaved like Indians didn't belong in Guyana. You were lucky that you had a taste of the PPP government before you left. That is why you had a heavy heart when you gave up your citizenship. 

Sorry Ksaz, Django. I still maintain my Guyanese papel. I didnt give up nothing.

I like being an American. It has given me way more than I could have ever gotten legally in Guyana. The only papel I ever got from Guyana is a birth certificate and during PNC days, yuh had to pay huge bribes to even get a copy of it.  Honestly, if I wasn't on GNI, my mind would be very far from Guyana.

GTAngler posted:

ksazma posted:

GTAngler posted:

ksazma posted:

GTAngler posted:

SMMFH.....

Why yuh stuttering bai? 

Shaking My.....Mo**** ****ing head. This idiot just made my blood boil.

Putting those two words together after 'my' is a no no for me. But that is just me. 

It is not always easy to figure Siggy out. Guyana don't need that despot Maduro threatening them.

Point taken. As I said, this fool made my blood boil.

I hear you. Fortunately, as I age, I have been able to exercise better composure. But I don't make mother comments.

Django posted:

ksazma posted:

 

It wasn't the same for me. I left in 1987 while the PNC were in government and they behaved like Indians didn't belong in Guyana. You were lucky that you had a taste of the PPP government before you left. That is why you had a heavy heart when you gave up your citizenship. 

Honestly never felt that way due to stand up for my rights, no one can walk over me easily.The PPP haven't accomplished much to brag about.

It has nothing to do with being a stand up for your rights or not. It was the PNC behavior back then that Indians didn't belong in Guyana. I didn't follow any of Burnham's whims either. I was in primary school and refused to go to the National Park during Independence because it was a glorification ceremony for Burnham. I told my class teacher that I didn't want to go. He said that I had to because it is a school day. I said that I will go but I will not stand up or sing and that is exactly what I did. I never went to any of those May day marches when Burnham was alive. At work, I used to tell my boss that I am not going to Hope Estate. If anyone was a standup for their rights person, it was me. That is not what I am talking about. I am talking about the PNC behavior when I live there like Indians didn't belong in Guyana.

GTAngler posted:

Some people are just blinded by race and party affiliation and still claim they have the country's interests at heart.

Not me GT. I don't give a shit about Guyana.

Amen!!!  Never went to Hope Estate. Dropped out of UG when Nat Service became compulsory, never went to Sophia to listen to the DAAG,  BUT went to Essequibo and other places fuh Mash because if you bring back receipts you get full reimbursement Was Likka , women and Food galore  The people dem does ask you how much I should write the receipt for

ksazma posted:

GTAngler posted:

Some people are just blinded by race and party affiliation and still claim they have the country's interests at heart.

Not me GT. I don't give a shit about Guyana.

Thanks for being honest. I have more respect for someone who is honest about his/her feelings and beliefs than someone who is pretentious.

ksazma posted:

GTAngler posted:

ksazma posted:

GTAngler posted:

ksazma posted:

GTAngler posted:

SMMFH.....

Why yuh stuttering bai? 

Shaking My.....Mo**** ****ing head. This idiot just made my blood boil.

Putting those two words together after 'my' is a no no for me. But that is just me. 

It is not always easy to figure Siggy out. Guyana don't need that despot Maduro threatening them.

Point taken. As I said, this fool made my blood boil.

I hear you. Fortunately, as I age, I have been able to exercise better composure. But I don't make mother comments.

It's funny. When I was younger I more prone to composure. AS I get older, I don't have much patience for nonsense. By the way, I just turned 50 a couple of months ago.

kp posted:

So you give up your right as a Guyanese, you were bought by the mighty USA. So when I talk you listen, I am a Guyanese till I die, I have a current passport plus a Canadian passport. My Mother Country will always be Guyana although I left 1979 for Canada.

 I am afraid you cannot share the OIL wealth.

You are truly an ass...extolling the virtues of your Canadian citizenship and pretending that does not mean the same thing ie accepting foreign sovereignty, as accepting American citizenship. America does not ask you renounce your birthright citizenship. 

Django posted:

seignet posted:

GTAngler posted:

seignet posted:

that oil would have never benefitted the ppl of guyana. if any thing it would make hardships for them under the dictators that would follow with the intimidations to hold power. Already, the PNC have their sights set. 

I hope Maduro succeed and not suck seed in the process. 

So let me get this right.  You would prefer Venezuela take over Essequibo and the oil rights? I don't have the vocabulary to express what I think of you. Regardless of who is in power, more money will circulate and more jobs will be created. SMMFH.....

Take NOTE, I am not rude.

Yes, I want Maduro to take it all and control it while he last as leader of his country. Whenever, he is displaced I KNOW the slim possibility exist of it belonging to Guyana. 

The USA will not displace Maduro. 

Jobs! are you joking. I doan think Jagdeo, the master economist knows wah to do. And no Black man know what to do either. To create jobs, takes alot of planning and somebody has to give things to do and the work force must want to work. 

Your allegiance isn't Guyana and don't need cut throats. Stick with the Country that is your home.

Have good day.

I used to love the country until arrived at the conclusion, the politcians are no damn good. And without them there is no country. But they are as good as dead, for no reasoning can be found among them. 

I hope Maduro displaces them, the place needs a break from the stresses.

Sheik101 posted:

 

There will be no landing of troops by the venezuelans in GT. They will get robbed.

Venezuela is one of the most dangerous countries in this planet. They can deal with any Guyanese criminal, because most of these men are themselves thugs, because that is who Maduro creates.   And yes Guyanese do have a fighting spirit, but only against each other.  

Guyanese aren't patriotic in the way that Jamaicans, or even Bajans and Trinis are.   We are a "what's in it for me"  people, so they will fight each other down for crumbs, but just for the nation, I don't see it.

Nehru posted:

Amen!!!  Never went to Hope Estate. Dropped out of UG when Nat Service became compulsory, never went to Sophia to listen to the DAAG,  BUT went to Essequibo and other places fuh Mash because if you bring back receipts you get full reimbursement Was Likka , women and Food galore  The people dem does ask you how much I should write the receipt for

I was vehemently against doing anything associated with Burnham. I was born in the year of the riots and left Guyana in 1987. When I went to Guyana for my wedding in 1988, I had to take everything that a wedding needs. While we shipped in barrels with supplies, my carry one bag still weighed about 60 pounds. The police were always targeting people and the only time you couldn't find a police was when you are being robbed. If we had any wonderful opportunities or memories, it was in spite of the institutionalized racial marginalization that Indians experienced during those PNC days. Getting a job required having a PNC card. Those employment exchanges were PNC filters.

kp posted:

Django posted:

 

Sheik101 posted:

Not a blade a grass. Aaa....yes. Those were the days when as a youth every man jack was a patriot. Standing up in the cinema when the National Anthem played

Bhai Sheik, although i despised Burnham, my allegiance while living there was to Guyana.My heart was heavy when i gave up my citizenship.The political leadership of the country caused that.

So you give up your right as a Guyanese, you were bought by the mighty USA. So when I talk you listen, I am a Guyanese till I die, I have a current passport plus a Canadian passport. My Mother Country will always be Guyana although I left 1979 for Canada.

 I am afraid you cannot share the OIL wealth.

Good for you bhai, not interested my family there will get a piece of the pie. Perhaps may get my NIS which have contributed to.

D2 posted:

kp posted:

So you give up your right as a Guyanese, you were bought by the mighty USA. So when I talk you listen, I am a Guyanese till I die, I have a current passport plus a Canadian passport. My Mother Country will always be Guyana although I left 1979 for Canada.

 I am afraid you cannot share the OIL wealth.

You are truly an ass...extolling the virtues of your Canadian citizenship and pretending that does not mean the same thing ie accepting foreign sovereignty, as accepting American citizenship. America does not ask you renounce your birthright citizenship. 

Can you look from top to bottom of this thread, did I address you or in anyway, did I call you a JACKASS. Look if you are bleeding between your legs and you are dizzy , go rest yourself.

GTAngler posted:

ksazma posted:

I hear you. Fortunately, as I age, I have been able to exercise better composure. But I don't make mother comments.

It's funny. When I was younger I more prone to composure. AS I get older, I don't have much patience for nonsense. By the way, I just turned 50 a couple of months ago.

I am different in that I am cool, calm and collected now. I once sent a tax accountant to drink with my incessant argument and the funny thing is that he was more correct about the tax law that we were arguing about. I was a fireball when I joined GNI about a decade ago. I don't let anything get under my skin now. I just keep telling myself that none of these f uckers on GNI is worth me stressing myself out.  Regarding age, I celebrate my 56th birthday and 31st anniversary next Thursday. The birthday is guaranteed if I am still alive. The anniversary is guaranteed if my wife continues to tolerate my nonsense. 

D2 posted:

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I said a private mercenary army...Re Read.

Maduro, the Russians and the Iranians just fell off the bench laughing at you.  This is a global scale event.  Not just Venezuela and even they alone are quite formidable. 

Yes I know that most Guyanese think that other South Americans are just a mite larger and more powerful than we are but Guyana (with mercenaries) and Venezuela is like Belize puffing up its chest and fighting Mexico.  In fact bringing mercenaries will likely be seen as a provocation and Maduro (10x more insane than Trump) might well be inclined to "Make Venezuela Great Again" by reacting.

You do know that this is a re-enactment of the Soviet Union's previous intervention in the Americas, except that its now Venezuela being used as the vehicle.

This will go as far as the Americans allow it to get and if Trump doesn't care then all bets are off.

Django posted:

kp posted:

Django posted:

 

Sheik101 posted:

Not a blade a grass. Aaa....yes. Those were the days when as a youth every man jack was a patriot. Standing up in the cinema when the National Anthem played

Bhai Sheik, although i despised Burnham, my allegiance while living there was to Guyana.My heart was heavy when i gave up my citizenship.The political leadership of the country caused that.

So you give up your right as a Guyanese, you were bought by the mighty USA. So when I talk you listen, I am a Guyanese till I die, I have a current passport plus a Canadian passport. My Mother Country will always be Guyana although I left 1979 for Canada.

 I am afraid you cannot share the OIL wealth.

Good for you bhai, not interested my family there will get a piece of the pie. Perhaps may get my NIS which have contributed to.

I tried asking for NIS, they can't find any record of my contribution, file lost. Every six months I have to send a life certificate to the Banks in Guyana for other investments dividends.

caribny posted:

D2 posted:

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I said a private mercenary army...Re Read.

Maduro, the Russians and the Iranians just fell off the bench laughing at you.  This is a global scale event.  Not just Venezuela and even they alone are quite formidable. 

Yes I know that most Guyanese think that other South Americans are just a mite larger and more powerful than we are but Guyana (with mercenaries) and Venezuela is like Belize puffing up its chest and fighting Mexico.  In fact bringing mercenaries will likely be seen as a provocation and Maduro (10x more insane than Trump) might well be inclined to "Make Venezuela Great Again" by reacting.

You do know that this is a re-enactment of the Soviet Union's previous intervention in the Americas, except that its now Venezuela being used as the vehicle.

This will go as far as the Americans allow it to get and if Trump doesn't care then all bets are off.

SO what if they laugh? An army preventing attack on oil facilities will still be there.  It took the US and a 100k men to over throw a better armed army in Iraq than Venezuela now has. They cannot feed their people presently. A thousand men took back he oil fields in Angola that was held for more than a decade by rogue troops. What should we do? Wait on fraidy cats like you and say we cannot to this or that?

GTAngler posted:

seignet posted:

GTAngler posted:

seignet posted:

that oil would have never benefitted the ppl of guyana. if any thing it would make hardships for them under the dictators that would follow with the intimidations to hold power. Already, the PNC have their sights set. 

I hope Maduro succeed and not suck seed in the process. 

So let me get this right.  You would prefer Venezuela take over Essequibo and the oil rights? I don't have the vocabulary to express what I think of you. Regardless of who is in power, more money will circulate and more jobs will be created. SMMFH.....

Take NOTE, I am not rude.

Yes, I want Maduro to take it all and control it while he last as leader of his country. Whenever, he is displaced I KNOW the slim possibility exist of it belonging to Guyana. 

The USA will not displace Maduro. 

Jobs! are you joking. I doan think Jagdeo, the master economist knows wah to do. And no Black man know what to do either. To create jobs, takes alot of planning and somebody has to give things to do and the work force must want to work. 

Take NOTE??? Am I supposed to be scared? I wasn't rude. My follow up post was. You have to be completely clueless if you can even think along those lines or maybe you can explain a bit. We let Maduro take Essequibo and after he is no longer leader we go and ask nicely?

Why would you be scared and of what?

Some ppl say Venezuleans do not care about the border issue, yet for the past 50 yeras or so, their text books says that Essequibo is theirs.

Generations knows that Essequibo belongs to Venezuela. And they have the might to take it. So far they were polite. Desperation now going change all of that.

I hope they take it. In the end, the age old problem will be solved for good one way or the other. They will solve it themselves.

Baseman posted:

 

Ayuh full of shyte!!!  Now Ayuh only hope is fuh frenenemy Maduro invade so Alyuh can keep power?  Burnham used the fake Venezuela threats to silence opposition and asassinate Rodney!  I saw the head cop say charrandas is a national security threat.  Alyuh trying to justify martial law?   

PNC has a bandit mindset!

Aaah yes I do recall your loud screams as Jagdeo and Maduro ranted in unison that Granger is a USA plant and that this "illegal" government should be removed.

Then your screams that Guyana should export rice to Venezuela, even though by then they had begun to starve because other food suppliers had cut them off for nonpayment.

Maduro might be Granger's frenemy, but he is Jagdeo's old friend.

Btw Guyana is among the nations which signed an agreement denouncing Maduro as an oppressive tyrant, joining many other South American nations, as well as Canada.

caribny posted:

Btw Guyana is among the nations which signed an agreement denouncing Maduro as an oppressive tyrant, joining many other South American nations, as well as Canada.

Jagdeo may be friendly with the venoes but he did not start this. Chaves needed food and he was prudent to feed his people. The truck driver incompetence of Madura is unfolding in the destruction of his nation. For Granger to be effective he has to do something like I ask. Trump is not likely to help and the Russians and Chinese do not care. We have to help ourselves.

caribny posted:

D2 posted:

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I said a private mercenary army...Re Read.

Maduro, the Russians and the Iranians just fell off the bench laughing at you.  This is a global scale event.  Not just Venezuela and even they alone are quite formidable. 

Yes I know that most Guyanese think that other South Americans are just a mite larger and more powerful than we are but Guyana (with mercenaries) and Venezuela is like Belize puffing up its chest and fighting Mexico.  In fact bringing mercenaries will likely be seen as a provocation and Maduro (10x more insane than Trump) might well be inclined to "Make Venezuela Great Again" by reacting.

You do know that this is a re-enactment of the Soviet Union's previous intervention in the Americas, except that its now Venezuela being used as the vehicle.

This will go as far as the Americans allow it to get and if Trump doesn't care then all bets are off.

I agree.  D2 is off on a tangent. Mercenaries can do specific tasks and missions.  They can augment the National army however, it’s the duty of the national army to bring about the strategic outcome!

seignet posted:

 

I hope Maduro succeed.

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Yes thanks for reminding me that the Indo Nazis here screamed that Maduro should invade Guyana and appoint Granger as the governor of this new Venezuelan state.

What patriots you guys are!

Another thing GT. I have also learned how to ignore people. 

Sheik101 posted:

Baseman posted:

Nehru posted:

I hears Maduro has been Financing the Amerindians on the Border for a few years now

While he doing that, HIS people running over to Guyana fuh lil food.  

Nah. Trinidad feeling the brunt of it.

Yes 60k running over to T&T. 1 million to Colombia and several hundred thousands to Brazil.  Guyana a few thousand, and this only from the bordering regions.

D2 posted:

caribny posted:

D2 posted:

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I said a private mercenary army...Re Read.

Maduro, the Russians and the Iranians just fell off the bench laughing at you.  This is a global scale event.  Not just Venezuela and even they alone are quite formidable. 

Yes I know that most Guyanese think that other South Americans are just a mite larger and more powerful than we are but Guyana (with mercenaries) and Venezuela is like Belize puffing up its chest and fighting Mexico.  In fact bringing mercenaries will likely be seen as a provocation and Maduro (10x more insane than Trump) might well be inclined to "Make Venezuela Great Again" by reacting.

You do know that this is a re-enactment of the Soviet Union's previous intervention in the Americas, except that its now Venezuela being used as the vehicle.

This will go as far as the Americans allow it to get and if Trump doesn't care then all bets are off.

SO what if they laugh? An army preventing attack on oil facilities will still be there.  It took the US and a 100k men to over throw a better armed army in Iraq than Venezuela now has. They cannot feed their people presently. A thousand men took back he oil fields in Angola that was held for more than a decade by rogue troops. What should we do? Wait on fraidy cats like you and say we cannot to this or that?

The oil in Guyanese waters is not pumped from platforms. The oil is pumped into holding tanks on ships then re-pumped into tankers for shipment. All Venezuela could do, is to prevent the operations, they cannot get the oil. Even Guyana cannot get to the oi or muchless monitor how much the wells produces.   

Cribby always making shit up. 

D2 posted:

caribny posted:

Btw Guyana is among the nations which signed an agreement denouncing Maduro as an oppressive tyrant, joining many other South American nations, as well as Canada.

Jagdeo may be friendly with the venoes but he did not start this. Chaves needed food and he was prudent to feed his people. The truck driver incompetence of Madura is unfolding in the destruction of his nation. For Granger to be effective he has to do something like I ask. Trump is not likely to help and the Russians and Chinese do not care. We have to help ourselves.

They do care. So does the British.   This is an international agreement signed under the League Of Nations being challenged.  It cannot be allowed to stand!!

GTAngler posted:

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Some people are just blinded by race and party affiliation and still claim they have the country's interests at heart.

They are making my point that Guyanese will shed blood for "tribe" but not for nation.

seignet posted:

The oil in Guyanese waters is not pumped from platforms. The oil is pumped into holding tanks on ships then re-pumped into tankers for shipment. All Venezuela could do, is to prevent the operations, they cannot get the oil. Even Guyana cannot get to the oi or muchless monitor how much the wells produces.   

There will always be a platform. Indeed host countries never see the oil and volumes are determined by the ones pumping

Baseman posted:

D2 posted:

caribny posted:

Btw Guyana is among the nations which signed an agreement denouncing Maduro as an oppressive tyrant, joining many other South American nations, as well as Canada.

Jagdeo may be friendly with the venoes but he did not start this. Chaves needed food and he was prudent to feed his people. The truck driver incompetence of Madura is unfolding in the destruction of his nation. For Granger to be effective he has to do something like I ask. Trump is not likely to help and the Russians and Chinese do not care. We have to help ourselves.

They do care. So does the British.   This is an international agreement signed under the League Of Nations being challenged.  It cannot be allowed to stand!!

Look about you at what is happening in the south china sea, in Crimea, Ukraine, Yemen....might is right.  Talking on the sidelines do not do those suffering in the conflict any good. 

caribny posted:

GTAngler posted:

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Some people are just blinded by race and party affiliation and still claim they have the country's interests at heart.

They are making my point that Guyanese will shed blood for "tribe" but not for nation.

and you have empirical evidence of this!

D2 posted:

 

They are not my mercenaries.  These are fully armed, ready with men planes and helis and boats war machines  for hire on demand . The US Uses them all over the world as security. I am sure you heard some of the names, Halliburton, Blackwater, AEGIS.

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and you think that Guyana has the money or credibility to develop crack teams as big as these.  Plus that was a land war.  Mercenaries work best in guerilla wars.  Not against navies and air forces.  Russia has already sent some planes to Venezuela and will have no hesitation at using Guyana to provoke the USA. 

Given that Putin "owns" Trump the US response mightn't be as expected, especially as he and Tillerson are noe enemies.  Trump will sooner invade Canada than anything to do with Russia.

caribny posted:

seignet posted:

 

I hope Maduro succeed..

Yes thanks for reminding me that the Indo Nazis here screamed that Maduro should invade Guyana and appoint Granger as the governor of this new Venezuelan state.

What patriots you guys are!

You like us being patriots at your convenience.  Next side yuh mouth, we are occupiers of your ancestors’ new homeland.  We are contract workers and should go back to Hindustan!

Me tink Siggy only saying that to make a point.  

D2 posted:

seignet posted:

The oil in Guyanese waters is not pumped from platforms. The oil is pumped into holding tanks on ships then re-pumped into tankers for shipment. All Venezuela could do, is to prevent the operations, they cannot get the oil. Even Guyana cannot get to the oi or muchless monitor how much the wells produces.   

There will always be a platform. Indeed host countries never see the oil and volumes are determined by the ones pumping

I had a conversation with the Country Manager. There will never be platforms. The oil is retrieved horizontally with seabed pumps on umbelicals.

ksazma posted:

. I am talking about the PNC behavior when I live there like Indians didn't belong in Guyana.

So you will understand the Afro Guyanese reaction to Jagdeo who felt that blacks didn't belong to Guyana.  The treatment was the same. 

seignet posted:

D2 posted:

seignet posted:

The oil in Guyanese waters is not pumped from platforms. The oil is pumped into holding tanks on ships then re-pumped into tankers for shipment. All Venezuela could do, is to prevent the operations, they cannot get the oil. Even Guyana cannot get to the oi or muchless monitor how much the wells produces.   

There will always be a platform. Indeed host countries never see the oil and volumes are determined by the ones pumping

I had a conversation with the Country Manager. There will never be platforms. The oil is retrieved horizontally with seabed pumps on umbelicals.

a platform is there to secure the well head. 

D2 posted:

 America does not ask you renounce your birthright citizenship. 

Actually they do. Recall that part of the oath is forswearing any allegiance to foreign powers.

They just understand that we will not do this, so blink and let it go.  But if Trump wins in 2020 he might try to seize citizenship from some of us if he discovers that we are still using foreign passports.  They know about those of us who do.