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Beleaguered Skeldon sugar factory should switch to ethanol, aquaculture – Vieira

 

Posted By Staff Writer On March 12, 2014 @ 5:23 am In Local News |

 

The Guyana Sugar Cor-poration needs to cut its losses and diversify the industry by getting into ethanol production, according to industry expert and member of APNU, Tony Vieira.

 

Vieira, a former PNCR-1G MP, yesterday proposed that GuySuCo seriously consider ethanol production at the Skeldon factory citing the low quality canes, “amateurish mechanization” and poor field conversion among other issues surrounding dismal sugar production over the last few years. He said that instead, GuySuCo could begin ethanol production with the ultimate goal of getting into aquaculture farming.

 

Vieira stated that while Guyana could not compete regionally with ethanol production, the costs associated would allow for the development of aquaculture farming, which Guyana could seek guidance on from Ecuador, the largest producer in the region. He noted that Skeldon was set up excellently to allow for “perfect 10-acre ponds” and added that Guyana grosses US$7 million a year from 300 acres of aquaculture farming. He said that “It doesn’t mean to say that the sugar workers would not have a job because they could work in the aquaculture system and this is something that could bring wealth to the nation”.

 

Tony Vieira

Tony Vieira

Vieira was addressing a press briefing held at the APNU headquarters when he said that sugar was an industry on its last breath and “high rainfall, high tonnes of canes to make a tonne of sugar (TC/TS), long periods of getting the cane to the factory and shortage of labour,” were just a few of the reasons diversification was essential to cease the haemorrhaging of finances by the state-owned corporation. Huge subventions have been provided by the state in recent years to GuySuCo which has returned big annual losses.

 

Vieira said that no matter the cane quality “one tonne of cane will always produce 10 gallons of ethanol”.  Ethanol produced would have to be done so at the same price as gasoline. Vieira said that “given how Skeldon is performing I would say…it would be far better if Skeldon were producing … ethanol. I say that because the canes of Guyana are very vegetative and they are taking a long time to harvest and grind.”

He said that the length of time cane took to be crushed, rendered the TC/TS at Skeldon to be 29 or in some instances higher, while the industry average was around 12 TC/TS.

 

Exclusive EU Sugar Market

 

Vieira ventured that Guyana could forgo Skeldon and focus on the more successful estates. He said there was no need to aim for sugar production beyond 350,000 tonnes annually. He said that Guyana could sell sugar exclusively to the European Union at the specialised pricing and import the 40,000 tonnes annually consumed.

 

He added that Guyana could sell sugar to the EU for US$700 per tonne and buy regionally for US$400 per tonne, making a profit which could gross up to $2 billion annually. He said that time and time again GuySuCo has missed an opportunity to revolutionise the industry and instead since the 2001 Strategic Plan, the corporation failed to see that the EU Sugar Protocol (SP) was under threat.  He said that when it was announced that the SP would soon be coming to an end “while everybody was contracting their industry we were expanding ours without having regard to the fact that we are not an economic producer”. He said also that GuySuCo  was producing at double what the world market price was which meant that the construction of just one behemoth sugar factory, Skeldon, could not save the industry from implosion.  The Chinese-built Skeldon factory has been riddled with problems since it entered production in 2009.

Skeldon

 

Vieira said that “there has been a systemic starvation of funds to the other estates to keep the Skeldon project going”. He said that former Agriculture Minister Robert Persaud saw it fit to withhold  funding for the industry from the EU’s Financing Agreement for the Guyana National Action Programme on Accompanying Measures on Sugar. Since the GNAP programme began in 2006 the EU has provided over $26.5 billion (€91.5M) as Sector Policy Budget Support.

 

Vieira said GuySuCo was beyond help especially the US$110M Skeldon factory which was part of a US$200M modernisation programme championed by former President Bharrat Jagdeo. Vieira noted that the mechanisation was done so poorly that the type of cane Guyana grows and the soil moisture was never taken into consideration prior to purchasing mechanical harvesters. Vieira said that just 1.25 inches of cane rendered mechanical harvesting at Skeldon impossible. He said that instead of recognizing that mechanisation was flawed in 2004, GuySuCo extended Skeldon fields by an additional 20,000 acres including 10,000 acres to be farmed privately.

“So now we have 30,000 acres without establishing where the money will come from to do this expansion. How you  are going to reap the additional canes because there is a shortage of  labour in the industry and what is going to be the cost of all of this”, Vieira asked. The former Administrative Manager of GuySuCo and a trained agronomist said that “without putting in a single new koker, a pump or widening any drains” Skeldon increased its field capacity by 200 percent, leading      to disastrous agronomic effects.

 

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Originally Posted by JB:

Fish dont make money. They have to do into coconut, ethanol, avocados, oranges, tangerine, dairy. 

and with the extra land they can bring down the house price 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:

Beleaguered Skeldon sugar factory should switch to ethanol, aquaculture – Vieira

 

Posted By Staff Writer On March 12, 2014 @ 5:23 am In Local News |

 

The Guyana Sugar Cor-poration needs to cut its losses and diversify the industry by getting into ethanol production, according to industry expert and member of APNU, Tony Vieira.

 

Vieira, a former PNCR-1G MP, yesterday proposed that GuySuCo seriously consider ethanol production at the Skeldon factory citing the low quality canes, “amateurish mechanization” and poor field conversion among other issues surrounding dismal sugar production over the last few years. He said that instead, GuySuCo could begin ethanol production with the ultimate goal of getting into aquaculture farming.

 

Vieira stated that while Guyana could not compete regionally with ethanol production, the costs associated would allow for the development of aquaculture farming, which Guyana could seek guidance on from Ecuador, the largest producer in the region. He noted that Skeldon was set up excellently to allow for “perfect 10-acre ponds” and added that Guyana grosses US$7 million a year from 300 acres of aquaculture farming. He said that “It doesn’t mean to say that the sugar workers would not have a job because they could work in the aquaculture system and this is something that could bring wealth to the nation”.

 

Tony Vieira

Tony Vieira

Vieira was addressing a press briefing held at the APNU headquarters when he said that sugar was an industry on its last breath and “high rainfall, high tonnes of canes to make a tonne of sugar (TC/TS), long periods of getting the cane to the factory and shortage of labour,” were just a few of the reasons diversification was essential to cease the haemorrhaging of finances by the state-owned corporation. Huge subventions have been provided by the state in recent years to GuySuCo which has returned big annual losses.

 

Vieira said that no matter the cane quality “one tonne of cane will always produce 10 gallons of ethanol”.  Ethanol produced would have to be done so at the same price as gasoline. Vieira said that “given how Skeldon is performing I would say…it would be far better if Skeldon were producing … ethanol. I say that because the canes of Guyana are very vegetative and they are taking a long time to harvest and grind.”

He said that the length of time cane took to be crushed, rendered the TC/TS at Skeldon to be 29 or in some instances higher, while the industry average was around 12 TC/TS.

 

Exclusive EU Sugar Market

 

Vieira ventured that Guyana could forgo Skeldon and focus on the more successful estates. He said there was no need to aim for sugar production beyond 350,000 tonnes annually. He said that Guyana could sell sugar exclusively to the European Union at the specialised pricing and import the 40,000 tonnes annually consumed.

 

He added that Guyana could sell sugar to the EU for US$700 per tonne and buy regionally for US$400 per tonne, making a profit which could gross up to $2 billion annually. He said that time and time again GuySuCo has missed an opportunity to revolutionise the industry and instead since the 2001 Strategic Plan, the corporation failed to see that the EU Sugar Protocol (SP) was under threat.  He said that when it was announced that the SP would soon be coming to an end “while everybody was contracting their industry we were expanding ours without having regard to the fact that we are not an economic producer”. He said also that GuySuCo  was producing at double what the world market price was which meant that the construction of just one behemoth sugar factory, Skeldon, could not save the industry from implosion.  The Chinese-built Skeldon factory has been riddled with problems since it entered production in 2009.

Skeldon

 

Vieira said that “there has been a systemic starvation of funds to the other estates to keep the Skeldon project going”. He said that former Agriculture Minister Robert Persaud saw it fit to withhold  funding for the industry from the EU’s Financing Agreement for the Guyana National Action Programme on Accompanying Measures on Sugar. Since the GNAP programme began in 2006 the EU has provided over $26.5 billion (€91.5M) as Sector Policy Budget Support.

 

Vieira said GuySuCo was beyond help especially the US$110M Skeldon factory which was part of a US$200M modernisation programme championed by former President Bharrat Jagdeo. Vieira noted that the mechanisation was done so poorly that the type of cane Guyana grows and the soil moisture was never taken into consideration prior to purchasing mechanical harvesters. Vieira said that just 1.25 inches of cane rendered mechanical harvesting at Skeldon impossible. He said that instead of recognizing that mechanisation was flawed in 2004, GuySuCo extended Skeldon fields by an additional 20,000 acres including 10,000 acres to be farmed privately.

“So now we have 30,000 acres without establishing where the money will come from to do this expansion. How you  are going to reap the additional canes because there is a shortage of  labour in the industry and what is going to be the cost of all of this”, Vieira asked. The former Administrative Manager of GuySuCo and a trained agronomist said that “without putting in a single new koker, a pump or widening any drains” Skeldon increased its field capacity by 200 percent, leading      to disastrous agronomic effects.

 


Veira making much economic sense here BUT ZERO POLITICAL sense.

 

The PPP will mash the PNC fuh channa on the sugar belt.

 

Damn incompetent political novices - Veira!

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:
Originally Posted by JB:

Beleaguered Skeldon sugar factory should switch to ethanol, aquaculture – Vieira

 

Posted By Staff Writer On March 12, 2014 @ 5:23 am In Local News |

 

The Guyana Sugar Cor-poration needs to cut its losses and diversify the industry by getting into ethanol production, according to industry expert and member of APNU, Tony Vieira.

 

Vieira, a former PNCR-1G MP, yesterday proposed that GuySuCo seriously consider ethanol production at the Skeldon factory citing the low quality canes, “amateurish mechanization” and poor field conversion among other issues surrounding dismal sugar production over the last few years. He said that instead, GuySuCo could begin ethanol production with the ultimate goal of getting into aquaculture farming.

 

Vieira stated that while Guyana could not compete regionally with ethanol production, the costs associated would allow for the development of aquaculture farming, which Guyana could seek guidance on from Ecuador, the largest producer in the region. He noted that Skeldon was set up excellently to allow for “perfect 10-acre ponds” and added that Guyana grosses US$7 million a year from 300 acres of aquaculture farming. He said that “It doesn’t mean to say that the sugar workers would not have a job because they could work in the aquaculture system and this is something that could bring wealth to the nation”.

 

Tony Vieira

Tony Vieira

Vieira was addressing a press briefing held at the APNU headquarters when he said that sugar was an industry on its last breath and “high rainfall, high tonnes of canes to make a tonne of sugar (TC/TS), long periods of getting the cane to the factory and shortage of labour,” were just a few of the reasons diversification was essential to cease the haemorrhaging of finances by the state-owned corporation. Huge subventions have been provided by the state in recent years to GuySuCo which has returned big annual losses.

 

Vieira said that no matter the cane quality “one tonne of cane will always produce 10 gallons of ethanol”.  Ethanol produced would have to be done so at the same price as gasoline. Vieira said that “given how Skeldon is performing I would say…it would be far better if Skeldon were producing … ethanol. I say that because the canes of Guyana are very vegetative and they are taking a long time to harvest and grind.”

He said that the length of time cane took to be crushed, rendered the TC/TS at Skeldon to be 29 or in some instances higher, while the industry average was around 12 TC/TS.

 

Exclusive EU Sugar Market

 

Vieira ventured that Guyana could forgo Skeldon and focus on the more successful estates. He said there was no need to aim for sugar production beyond 350,000 tonnes annually. He said that Guyana could sell sugar exclusively to the European Union at the specialised pricing and import the 40,000 tonnes annually consumed.

 

He added that Guyana could sell sugar to the EU for US$700 per tonne and buy regionally for US$400 per tonne, making a profit which could gross up to $2 billion annually. He said that time and time again GuySuCo has missed an opportunity to revolutionise the industry and instead since the 2001 Strategic Plan, the corporation failed to see that the EU Sugar Protocol (SP) was under threat.  He said that when it was announced that the SP would soon be coming to an end “while everybody was contracting their industry we were expanding ours without having regard to the fact that we are not an economic producer”. He said also that GuySuCo  was producing at double what the world market price was which meant that the construction of just one behemoth sugar factory, Skeldon, could not save the industry from implosion.  The Chinese-built Skeldon factory has been riddled with problems since it entered production in 2009.

Skeldon

 

Vieira said that “there has been a systemic starvation of funds to the other estates to keep the Skeldon project going”. He said that former Agriculture Minister Robert Persaud saw it fit to withhold  funding for the industry from the EU’s Financing Agreement for the Guyana National Action Programme on Accompanying Measures on Sugar. Since the GNAP programme began in 2006 the EU has provided over $26.5 billion (€91.5M) as Sector Policy Budget Support.

 

Vieira said GuySuCo was beyond help especially the US$110M Skeldon factory which was part of a US$200M modernisation programme championed by former President Bharrat Jagdeo. Vieira noted that the mechanisation was done so poorly that the type of cane Guyana grows and the soil moisture was never taken into consideration prior to purchasing mechanical harvesters. Vieira said that just 1.25 inches of cane rendered mechanical harvesting at Skeldon impossible. He said that instead of recognizing that mechanisation was flawed in 2004, GuySuCo extended Skeldon fields by an additional 20,000 acres including 10,000 acres to be farmed privately.

“So now we have 30,000 acres without establishing where the money will come from to do this expansion. How you  are going to reap the additional canes because there is a shortage of  labour in the industry and what is going to be the cost of all of this”, Vieira asked. The former Administrative Manager of GuySuCo and a trained agronomist said that “without putting in a single new koker, a pump or widening any drains” Skeldon increased its field capacity by 200 percent, leading      to disastrous agronomic effects.

 


Veira making much economic sense her BUT ZERO POLITICAL sense.

 

The PPP will mash the PNC fuh channa on the sugar belt.

 

Damn incompetent political novices - Veira!

Tis is some sunny shit fram de politaical expert who help foh kill de people in Linden.

FM
Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:
Originally Posted by JB:

Beleaguered Skeldon sugar factory should switch to ethanol, aquaculture – Vieira

 

Posted By Staff Writer On March 12, 2014 @ 5:23 am In Local News |

 

The Guyana Sugar Cor-poration needs to cut its losses and diversify the industry by getting into ethanol production, according to industry expert and member of APNU, Tony Vieira.

 

Vieira, a former PNCR-1G MP, yesterday proposed that GuySuCo seriously consider ethanol production at the Skeldon factory citing the low quality canes, “amateurish mechanization” and poor field conversion among other issues surrounding dismal sugar production over the last few years. He said that instead, GuySuCo could begin ethanol production with the ultimate goal of getting into aquaculture farming.

 

Vieira stated that while Guyana could not compete regionally with ethanol production, the costs associated would allow for the development of aquaculture farming, which Guyana could seek guidance on from Ecuador, the largest producer in the region. He noted that Skeldon was set up excellently to allow for “perfect 10-acre ponds” and added that Guyana grosses US$7 million a year from 300 acres of aquaculture farming. He said that “It doesn’t mean to say that the sugar workers would not have a job because they could work in the aquaculture system and this is something that could bring wealth to the nation”.

 

Tony Vieira

Tony Vieira

Vieira was addressing a press briefing held at the APNU headquarters when he said that sugar was an industry on its last breath and “high rainfall, high tonnes of canes to make a tonne of sugar (TC/TS), long periods of getting the cane to the factory and shortage of labour,” were just a few of the reasons diversification was essential to cease the haemorrhaging of finances by the state-owned corporation. Huge subventions have been provided by the state in recent years to GuySuCo which has returned big annual losses.

 

Vieira said that no matter the cane quality “one tonne of cane will always produce 10 gallons of ethanol”.  Ethanol produced would have to be done so at the same price as gasoline. Vieira said that “given how Skeldon is performing I would say…it would be far better if Skeldon were producing … ethanol. I say that because the canes of Guyana are very vegetative and they are taking a long time to harvest and grind.”

He said that the length of time cane took to be crushed, rendered the TC/TS at Skeldon to be 29 or in some instances higher, while the industry average was around 12 TC/TS.

 

Exclusive EU Sugar Market

 

Vieira ventured that Guyana could forgo Skeldon and focus on the more successful estates. He said there was no need to aim for sugar production beyond 350,000 tonnes annually. He said that Guyana could sell sugar exclusively to the European Union at the specialised pricing and import the 40,000 tonnes annually consumed.

 

He added that Guyana could sell sugar to the EU for US$700 per tonne and buy regionally for US$400 per tonne, making a profit which could gross up to $2 billion annually. He said that time and time again GuySuCo has missed an opportunity to revolutionise the industry and instead since the 2001 Strategic Plan, the corporation failed to see that the EU Sugar Protocol (SP) was under threat.  He said that when it was announced that the SP would soon be coming to an end “while everybody was contracting their industry we were expanding ours without having regard to the fact that we are not an economic producer”. He said also that GuySuCo  was producing at double what the world market price was which meant that the construction of just one behemoth sugar factory, Skeldon, could not save the industry from implosion.  The Chinese-built Skeldon factory has been riddled with problems since it entered production in 2009.

Skeldon

 

Vieira said that “there has been a systemic starvation of funds to the other estates to keep the Skeldon project going”. He said that former Agriculture Minister Robert Persaud saw it fit to withhold  funding for the industry from the EU’s Financing Agreement for the Guyana National Action Programme on Accompanying Measures on Sugar. Since the GNAP programme began in 2006 the EU has provided over $26.5 billion (€91.5M) as Sector Policy Budget Support.

 

Vieira said GuySuCo was beyond help especially the US$110M Skeldon factory which was part of a US$200M modernisation programme championed by former President Bharrat Jagdeo. Vieira noted that the mechanisation was done so poorly that the type of cane Guyana grows and the soil moisture was never taken into consideration prior to purchasing mechanical harvesters. Vieira said that just 1.25 inches of cane rendered mechanical harvesting at Skeldon impossible. He said that instead of recognizing that mechanisation was flawed in 2004, GuySuCo extended Skeldon fields by an additional 20,000 acres including 10,000 acres to be farmed privately.

“So now we have 30,000 acres without establishing where the money will come from to do this expansion. How you  are going to reap the additional canes because there is a shortage of  labour in the industry and what is going to be the cost of all of this”, Vieira asked. The former Administrative Manager of GuySuCo and a trained agronomist said that “without putting in a single new koker, a pump or widening any drains” Skeldon increased its field capacity by 200 percent, leading      to disastrous agronomic effects.

 


Veira making much economic sense her BUT ZERO POLITICAL sense.

 

The PPP will mash the PNC fuh channa on the sugar belt.

 

Damn incompetent political novices - Veira!

maybe if you stop and think you will know is the ppp politics that is destroying guyana and is the sugar workers that make the ppp a minority 

FM

What you all in the PNC do not realize Kapadilla is that the PPP will used you all, abuse you all and then discard of you like how get got Uncle Robert Corbs by the balls.

 

Why yu think Ms Lawrence fell ill and give the PPP $1 billion???

 

 

It is called CHEESE!  PNC want cheese.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:

What you all in the PNC do not realize Kapadilla is that the PPP will used you all, abuse you all and then discard of you like how get got Uncle Robert Corbs by the balls.

 

Why yu think Ms Lawrence fell ill and give the PPP $1 billion???

 

 

It is called CHEESE!  PNC want cheese.

 

Bai you always bringin wan conspiracy. For wan educated banna you full a crap. Tell abie bout de new monthly poll from PPP. Wah it sayin? PPP gettin 20%?

FM
Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:

What you all in the PNC do not realize Kapadilla is that the PPP will used you all, abuse you all and then discard of you like how get got Uncle Robert Corbs by the balls.

 

Why yu think Ms Lawrence fell ill and give the PPP $1 billion???

 

 

It is called CHEESE!  PNC want cheese.

 

the ppp only use people with low morality and honor so how the hell they can use any body that do not want to be use how is your morality 

FM
Originally Posted by Kapadilla:
Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:

What you all in the PNC do not realize Kapadilla is that the PPP will used you all, abuse you all and then discard of you like how get got Uncle Robert Corbs by the balls.

 

Why yu think Ms Lawrence fell ill and give the PPP $1 billion???

 

 

It is called CHEESE!  PNC want cheese.

 

Bai you always bringin wan conspiracy. For wan educated banna you full a crap. Tell abie bout de new monthly poll from PPP. Wah it sayin? PPP gettin 20%?

OK, the level of your intellect.

 

An the issue is???

FM

According to today's Chronicle, the PPP late yesterday rejected Vieira's suggestions outright.

The PPP says it will stick with sugar. Not surprising.

The sugar estates have traditionally been a PPP voter bank.

However, with the sugar labor force shrinking continually, one can realistically expect a drop in PPP support.

FM

THe possibilty still exist to save the sugar industry. It is always dangerous to have mega-production facilities for any type of industry.

 

Forget about how much sugar Skeldon was suppose to produce. Cut the losses and produce what is efficient to manufacture.

 

The neglected sugar estates should be re-tool for its regular production capacities.

 

Killing sugar would result in the killing of the skilled trades in Guyana. Any state in ancient or modern times needs those skills.

S
Originally Posted by seignet:

THe possibilty still exist to save the sugar industry. It is always dangerous to have mega-production facilities for any type of industry.

 

Forget about how much sugar Skeldon was suppose to produce. Cut the losses and produce what is efficient to manufacture.

 

The neglected sugar estates should be re-tool for its regular production capacities.

 

Killing sugar would result in the killing of the skilled trades in Guyana. Any state in ancient or modern times needs those skills.

Kill sugar and let the people starve? I agree they should cut the losses and produce what is more a realisitc and be efficient with it. There are a lot cane farmers who have invested heavily in cane farming. Shortage of labor is the problem.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by seignet:

THe possibilty still exist to save the sugar industry. It is always dangerous to have mega-production facilities for any type of industry.

 

Forget about how much sugar Skeldon was suppose to produce. Cut the losses and produce what is efficient to manufacture.

 

The neglected sugar estates should be re-tool for its regular production capacities.

 

Killing sugar would result in the killing of the skilled trades in Guyana. Any state in ancient or modern times needs those skills.

Kill sugar and let the people starve? I agree they should cut the losses and produce what is more a realisitc and be efficient with it. There are a lot cane farmers who have invested heavily in cane farming. Shortage of labor is the problem.

How you know?

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

Kill sugar and let the people starve? I agree they should cut the losses and produce what is more a realisitc and be efficient with it. There are a lot cane farmers who have invested heavily in cane farming. Shortage of labor is the problem.

Why not sell Guysuco to the Chinese, who already own Jamaica's sugar industry?  As they fire 80% of the workers, like they did in Linden, I don't want to hear any weeping for you.

 

Skeldon and Rosehall will just have to suck salt just as Linden had to.

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by seignet:

THe possibilty still exist to save the sugar industry. It is always dangerous to have mega-production facilities for any type of industry.

 

Forget about how much sugar Skeldon was suppose to produce. Cut the losses and produce what is efficient to manufacture.

 

The neglected sugar estates should be re-tool for its regular production capacities.

 

Killing sugar would result in the killing of the skilled trades in Guyana. Any state in ancient or modern times needs those skills.

Kill sugar and let the people starve? I agree they should cut the losses and produce what is more a realisitc and be efficient with it. There are a lot cane farmers who have invested heavily in cane farming. Shortage of labor is the problem.

How you know?

You display some extreme form of unparalleled ignorance. I guess that's what a third rate education will do for you.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

According to today's Chronicle, the PPP late yesterday rejected Vieira's suggestions outright.

The PPP says it will stick with sugar. Not surprising.

The sugar estates have traditionally been a PPP voter bank.

However, with the sugar labor force shrinking continually, one can realistically expect a drop in PPP support.

They will continue to bail out the sugar industry to the tune of billions every year to make it seem like they are truly sympathetic to the plight of the sugar workers. The truth is that their corruption and incompetence has killed the sugar industry and the bailout money is being funded by taxpayers. 

Mars

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