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December 13,2017

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I grew up hearing about the violence of the sixties. Like any little kid, you digest what the elder ones say around you. When I became a teenager, these things I digested didn’t make sense to me. I entered UG and started to immerse myself in different perspectives on my country’s history. I rejected many of the things I heard around my home when I was a little boy.


Here are three examples that were not only illogical, but extremely weird.

I was told that the ‘Son Chapman’ boat that blew up and killed over forty African Guyanese was the work of the PNC cadres who were taking bombs to Mackenzie. My research informed me that the ‘Son Chapman’ was a manifestation of tit-for-tat between the Indian PPP and the African PNC.Prior to the destruction of the ‘Son Chapman’, Indians were badly beaten in the riots at Mackenzie. Indian women were raped, men killed and homes destroyed. It seems the bombing of the ‘Son Chapman’ was a revenge act.


Secondly, I was indoctrinated to believe that the arson that killed Arthur Abraham – the Permanent Secretary of Premier Cheddi Jagan – and seven of his nine children, was the work of The United Force, that was making bombs at Abraham’s home. My research led me to think that Abraham was targeted for alleged secrets he passed on to The United Force, of which his daughter was a big leader.


Finally, the editor, Peter Taylor, of a popular newspaper, the Argosy, that was a thorn in the side of Premier Jagan, was almost assassinated at his home. I grew up hearing that was done to blame the PPP Government. It didn’t make sense for any opposition party to kill a nationally effective anti-government editor that was one of their main vehicles. I eventually got to know who were the two men sent to kill Taylor, and who was the female in the PPP leadership that sent them. One of the two men was a close relative of mine.


All three explanations offered to me when I was growing up were nonsense. In the sixties, the PPP leaders were committing acts of violence against PNC targets, the PNC leaders were committing acts of violence against government personnel and PPP cadres. There was no complex situation to tax your brain. It was as simple as that. Maybe if I had remained a nonentity in Wortmanville without any education at all (I left school at the primary level and never saw a high school door) I still would have believed that indoctrination of an all-embracing, angelic PPP.


I got to know more about the PPP as I continued at UG and became active with the WPA, and as I got to know Dr. Jagan, Mrs. Jagan and other PPP leaders. I never thought in my years from thereon (as a UG student onwards) that the PPP as a party and its leaders were a respectable, principled, humane outfit. I lived to see the PPP hold power in Guyana for twenty-three years, and it was a frightening moment in my life. I almost lost my life twice, was hunted out of my UG job, and my wife was victimized.


The victimization of my wife at her GO-Invest job (the new APNU+AFC administration should have reinstated her, but more on that later) is an evil I will never forget or forgive the PPP for. I saw the violent nature of the PPP leaders in those twenty-three years, and I knew those myths about it being innocent victims of PNC’s violence were appalling, sickening fictions.
The PPP is a violent party. It cannot reform and will not reform. It is in my opinion, an irredeemable animal.


The treatment the President received two weeks ago when he addressed Parliament came as no surprise to me. The violent action that greeted the police as they moved to escort Juan Edghill out of the House did not surprise me. The PPP was violent when it was in power; it will remain violent even now that it is out of power. I sincerely believe that the PPP will oppose the government through acts of violence. It will happen. It happened throughout the reign of Forbes Burnham when sugar estates were constantly torched.


What Edghill did, and what the PPP Parliamentarians did was merely acting out the nature of the beast. I saw video clips with PPP parliamentarians hitting policemen. If the State does not confront those violent acts and charge those two parliamentarians, then worse is yet to come.

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Djanjo , regarding your headline, please answer the following questions .

1.Have you suffer or experience violence under  the PPP government .

2. If you left guyana before PPP get into government , have you experience or witness violence while PPP was in the opposition .

3. Have you experience violence living under the PNC government .

FM

The PNC has always been violent, Their many acts against the PPP, WPA and all who oppose them knows no limits. It is well documented that in and out of Power the PNC has been violent all along. The use of the House of Israel thugs, GDf. GPF and many other arms of the state. So for Freddie to come and say that the PPP is violent is to be totally blind because of his hatred for the PPP. I wonder what kind of academic is Freddie Kissoon. Freddie is always forgetting what the Army did to him at Camp Ayanganna but have selected memory.

R
Dave posted:

Djanjo , regarding your headline, please answer the following questions .

1.Have you suffer or experience violence under  the PPP government .

2. If you left guyana before PPP get into government , have you experience or witness violence while PPP was in the opposition .

3. Have you experience violence living under the PNC government .

Waiting on Djanjo ?? 

FM

I have tried to view Freddie as neutral, but his mouth was in his ass when PNC was creating havoc!

Django, I assume the headline is your opinion.

If it is, then you had your mouth up your ass as well when PNC was carrying out mo fiah slo fiah!

FM
RiffRaff posted:

I have tried to view Freddie as neutral, but his mouth was in his ass when PNC was creating havoc!

Django, I assume the headline is your opinion.

If it is, then you had your mouth up your ass as well when PNC was carrying out mo fiah slo fiah!

Violent when in power, still violent when out of power


Django
Dave posted:
Dave posted:

Djanjo , regarding your headline, please answer the following questions .

1.Have you suffer or experience violence under  the PPP government .

2. If you left guyana before PPP get into government , have you experience or witness violence while PPP was in the opposition .

3. Have you experience violence living under the PNC government .

Waiting on Djanjo ?? 

Dave,

the headline is not mine.

Regarding your questions.

(1) No...I was a kid when the PPP was first in Gov't.

(2) Migrated in 1996.During the four years i have not witnessed any violence.

While the PPP in opposition,it's a known fact Sugar Cane Fields was set alight illegally.

(3) Personally..No.

I have witnessed violence on the WCD,carried out by PNC henchmen against Political Parties.

 

 

Django
Last edited by Django
RiffRaff posted:

what attack?

All I saying is that I don't remember you posting anti PNC stuff when they were creating havov

During the period when PNC was in opposition,i was not posting a lot on GNI.

I have acquired a business and my focus was there.

Django
Last edited by Django

Freddie needs to do some more researching. No reasonable person would think of the PPP when considering party violence in Guyana. Maybe that feces is still affecting his ability to think properly.

FM
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Dave posted:

Djanjo , regarding your headline, please answer the following questions .

1.Have you suffer or experience violence under  the PPP government .

2. If you left guyana before PPP get into government , have you experience or witness violence while PPP was in the opposition .

3. Have you experience violence living under the PNC government .

Waiting on Djanjo ?? 

Dave,

the headline is not mine.

Regarding your questions.

(1) No...I was a kid when the PPP was first in Gov't.

(2) Migrated in 1996.During the four years i have not witnessed any violence.

While the PPP in opposition,it's a known fact Sugar Cane Fields was set alight illegally.

(3) Personally..No.

I have witnessed violence on the WCD,carried out by PNC henchmen against Political Parties.

 

 

Thank for your response . However , being the messenger of a man who’s creditability is in question, it is expect you will share your views after posting his article  unless you are in agreement  with him which I believe .

FM

Freddie is a sick man.  He concocts crap to throw at the PPP. It's no wonder some real crap boomeranged directly into his face.  Keep lying. Your lies will only fool a few stupid people. We have a lot of stupid Indians who believe fictitious things.  That's one of the problems Indians have as a whole. We need to educate ourselves so that we are not fooled and misled by people who don't have our interests at heart. We must search for the real truth and one way of aiding that is to first educate ourselves.  We don't need pseudo-academics like Freddie Kissoon to feed our minds with filth that corrupt our minds. We need more people to write and express their opinions on current affairs. For too long most of columnists have been political hacks whose minds have been tainted with hate, racism, and backwardness. 

 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Last edited by Billy Ram Balgobin
yuji22 posted:

Freddie likes to bark from under his desk.

Good morning Django, what are you up to again this morning ? You prappa like to dig up trouble or you chul chul ? Which one ?

Do you blame him? He is afraid he might get a booster dose.

FM

Django gets a high out of posting the most anti-PPP articles on this forum with the sole objective of helping the insecure PNC. He relishes every second of daubing dirt at the party with political viewpoints that bashes the party no matter how absurd. A fair-minded Guyanese would not give credence to any viewpoints that is riddled with malice and lies about any individual or political party, but Django job requires him to do so. 

How does an Indian fit in with the PNC?  If you are keen at observing Indians who support the PNC you cannot help but observe a trend among them - the inculcate in themselves all the racist charges you can ever imagined coming out of Congress Place and thrown at the PPP. They devoted themselves to memorizing loads of old and new propaganda that justifies fraud, economic disaster, and vile racism against other groups. What they cannot deny they are trained to justify with lies emanating from Congress Place. Django is at the dept of this vileness and he, like Freddie, is spewing out dirt like an active volcano spewing out lava.

Billy Ram Balgobin
RiffRaff posted:

I have tried to view Freddie as neutral, but his mouth was in his ass when PNC was creating havoc!

Django, I assume the headline is your opinion.

If it is, then you had your mouth up your ass as well when PNC was carrying out mo fiah slo fiah!

Well said, I couldn't have said it better.

K

"In the sixties, the PPP leaders were committing acts of violence against PNC targets, the PNC leaders were committing acts of violence against government personnel and PPP cadres. There was no complex situation to tax your brain. It was as simple as that."

On point Freddie.

Mars

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