Wales father of 4 pleads for severance pay

I heard from some one in Wales, the job fair was a sham,a few young school leavers got hired, many came from as far as West Coast and East Bank Demerara. The employers were not looking for older folks, imagine most of the cane cutters are uneducated, some cannot read and write, so they were not eligible for jobs offered. I was told one man went to apply for security guard job, after looking at him, he was told he does not fit the requirements.

 The government should take all the laid off workers and retrain them in the field of Oil and Gas, use the $18M US in a positive way.

kp posted:

I heard from some one in Wales, the job fair was a sham,a few young school leavers got hired, many came from as far as West Coast and East Bank Demerara. The employers were not looking for older folks, imagine most of the cane cutters are uneducated, some cannot read and write, so they were not eligible for jobs offered. I was told one man went to apply for security guard job, after looking at him, he was told he does not fit the requirements.

 The government should take all the laid off workers and retrain them in the field of Oil and Gas, use the $18M US in a positive way.

Put them in the GDF. The current crop does nothing and gets paid anyway.

skeldon_man posted:

kp posted:

I heard from some one in Wales, the job fair was a sham,a few young school leavers got hired, many came from as far as West Coast and East Bank Demerara. The employers were not looking for older folks, imagine most of the cane cutters are uneducated, some cannot read and write, so they were not eligible for jobs offered. I was told one man went to apply for security guard job, after looking at him, he was told he does not fit the requirements.

 The government should take all the laid off workers and retrain them in the field of Oil and Gas, use the $18M US in a positive way.

Put them in the GDF. The current crop does nothing and gets paid anyway.

The army does not have vacancy.

The army is exclusive to "one group" of people in Guyana - AFC/PNC.

During it's earlier days before Guyana was independent GAWU had some very successful money generating enterprises. Bags and bags of money were generated from these enterprises and shipped the the PPP party.  Now is the time for GAWU to get back into business and employ several of the laid off sugar workers.

Prashad posted:

During it's earlier days before Guyana was independent GAWU had some very successful money generating enterprises. Bags and bags of money were generated from these enterprises and shipped the the PPP party.  Now is the time for GAWU to get back into business and employ several of the laid off sugar workers.

How.

kp posted:

I heard from some one in Wales, the job fair was a sham,a few young school leavers got hired, many came from as far as West Coast and East Bank Demerara. The employers were not looking for older folks, imagine most of the cane cutters are uneducated, some cannot read and write, so they were not eligible for jobs offered. I was told one man went to apply for security guard job, after looking at him, he was told he does not fit the requirements.

 The government should take all the laid off workers and retrain them in the field of Oil and Gas, use the $18M US in a positive way.

One of the thing about the oil industry is they operate on a labor on demand scheme and they have all the laborers across the world ( Indians and Philippinos) that they usually bring in because they need predictable labor force. Guyanese will be relegated to servicing these people and apparently given Granger et al have no plans to develop our society ( they proposed nothing), it appears we can only expect income from oil here. Where Exxon creates its on shore recreation and rest area will soon be surrounded by a rapidly rising slum with bars, hookers and gambling dens and our people will be the entertainment.

D2 posted:

kp posted:

I heard from some one in Wales, the job fair was a sham,a few young school leavers got hired, many came from as far as West Coast and East Bank Demerara. The employers were not looking for older folks, imagine most of the cane cutters are uneducated, some cannot read and write, so they were not eligible for jobs offered. I was told one man went to apply for security guard job, after looking at him, he was told he does not fit the requirements.

 The government should take all the laid off workers and retrain them in the field of Oil and Gas, use the $18M US in a positive way.

One of the thing about the oil industry is they operate on a labor on demand scheme and they have all the laborers across the world ( Indians and Philippinos) that they usually bring in because they need predictable labor force. Guyanese will be relegated to servicing these people and apparently given Granger et al have no plans to develop our society ( they proposed nothing), it appears we can only expect income from oil here. Where Exxon creates its on shore recreation and rest area will soon be surrounded by a rapidly rising slum with bars, hookers and gambling dens and our people will be the entertainment.

Them cane cutters have to learn strip tease dancing.

The Guyanese people will never see any better standard of living if oil starts to flow. Is too much thiefing going on with the politicians and their friends 

kp posted:

Prashad posted:

During it's earlier days before Guyana was independent GAWU had some very successful money generating enterprises. Bags and bags of money were generated from these enterprises and shipped the the PPP party.  Now is the time for GAWU to get back into business and employ several of the laid off sugar workers.

How.

GAWU was into party promotion and liquor sales at the parties. It may sound like nonsense but it produced bags and bags of cash for the union and the PPP.

GAWU should buy Rosehall estate and produce Rosehall rum and Rosehall sugar and market it in North America through a North America sugar company.

Prashad posted:

GAWU should buy Rosehall estate and produce Rosehall rum and Rosehall sugar and market it in North America through a North America sugar company.

Not a bad idea but do they have that kind of cash.

Me thinks there is a court case pending regarding the affected workers who don't want to work at Uitvlugt,they claimed the distance is too far.

Prashad posted:

GAWU should buy Rosehall estate and produce Rosehall rum and Rosehall sugar and market it in North America through a North America sugar company.

Rose Hall People lil stupid. Moses fooled them up.

They should do it and Conman Moses will show up and become the CEO of the company. 

Wales to Uitvlugt is app 45mins drive . What’s the big deal with these people . 

These same people would come to North America and travel 2-3 hours , standing in Artic weather for a job and don’t complain. 

Private sectors have lots of work .. these banna don’t want to work . They like hanging out at street corners yapping all day . 

Dave posted:

Wales to Uitvlugt is app 45mins drive . What’s the big deal with these people . 

These same people would come to North America and travel 2-3 hours , standing in Artic weather for a job and don’t complain. 

Private sectors have lots of work .. these banna don’t want to work . They like hanging out at street corners yapping all day . 

Dave, as far as I understand, (please correct me if I am incorrect) the law says that the distance cannot be more than 10miles so the workers are right to expect severance pay. That is the isssue. Workers are exercising their rights.

if these guys were able to get to America, they would have been there and then find out that America is not the land of milk and honey, that they have to travel  a long time to work to pay for the privilege of living in America.

There is not lots of work out there in the private sector. From where are you getting that info? I can pass it around to displaced sugar workers I know. The job fairs are a sham so far, this I understand from people who attended. For the few jobs touted, there was no congruency between the skill sets of workers and the job requirements.

Zed posted:

Dave posted:

Wales to Uitvlugt is app 45mins drive . What’s the big deal with these people . 

These same people would come to North America and travel 2-3 hours , standing in Artic weather for a job and don’t complain. 

Private sectors have lots of work .. these banna don’t want to work . They like hanging out at street corners yapping all day . 

Dave, as far as I understand, (please correct me if I am incorrect) the law says that the distance cannot be more than 10miles so the workers are right to expect severance pay. That is the isssue. Workers are exercising their rights.

if these guys were able to get to America, they would have been there and then find out that America is not the land of milk and honey, that they have to travel  a long time to work to pay for the privilege of living in America.

There is not lots of work out there in the private sector. From where are you getting that info? I can pass it around to displaced sugar workers I know. The job fairs are a sham so far, this I understand from people who attended. For the few jobs touted, there was no congruency between the skill sets of workers and the job requirements.

My cousin from Skeldon would take the Guysuco truck all the way to Rosehall Estate to cut cane.

Dave posted:

Wales to Uitvlugt is app 45mins drive . What’s the big deal with these people . 

These same people would come to North America and travel 2-3 hours , standing in Artic weather for a job and don’t complain. 

Private sectors have lots of work .. these banna don’t want to work . They like hanging out at street corners yapping all day . 

You are hoping these cane cutters own car to drive to work, the cost to travel back and forth is too expensive, further more who wants to transport a filthy cane cutter with a sharp 22.

Most cane cutters leave their homes at 5.00 am or earlier to walk to the sugar factory,then transported by tractor or punts into the back dams to the fields.They start cutting cane as soon as the sun is up and finish some where between 3 to 4 pm, they would reach home the earliest 5 pm, if not much later if they visit the rum shop.

That routine is difficult to change, it's very difficult and hard work.

Zed posted:

Dave posted:

Wales to Uitvlugt is app 45mins drive . What’s the big deal with these people . 

These same people would come to North America and travel 2-3 hours , standing in Artic weather for a job and don’t complain. 

Private sectors have lots of work .. these banna don’t want to work . They like hanging out at street corners yapping all day . 

Dave, as far as I understand, (please correct me if I am incorrect) the law says that the distance cannot be more than 10miles so the workers are right to expect severance pay. That is the isssue. Workers are exercising their rights.

if these guys were able to get to America, they would have been there and then find out that America is not the land of milk and honey, that they have to travel  a long time to work to pay for the privilege of living in America.

There is not lots of work out there in the private sector. From where are you getting that info? I can pass it around to displaced sugar workers I know. The job fairs are a sham so far, this I understand from people who attended. For the few jobs touted, there was no congruency between the skill sets of workers and the job requirements.

Zed, when Diamond estate was closed and there is not enough man power to cut cane.. workers were truck as far as Enmore to Diamond. Some of these workers were living at Golden Grove on the east coast. 

I don’t know what the law requires about transporting workers far distances. But Guyana is a lawless country anyway. 

if the sugar industry is not making profit and effort is been made to keep one estate grinding, I will do what ever it takes to put bread and butter on the table for my family ... until I can do better.

We have business in GT and East Coast and it’s a struggle to keep realiable worker. We recently closed an outlet in Parika because of unreliable workers to open the store . 

The biggest problem is Monday morning, you cannot get a full staff . 

Guyanese do not wants  to work, they are lazy. 

They sit at home having taxi delivering restaurant food or pampers for their baby  - I have witness this .  

kp posted:

Dave posted:

Wales to Uitvlugt is app 45mins drive . What’s the big deal with these people . 

These same people would come to North America and travel 2-3 hours , standing in Artic weather for a job and don’t complain. 

Private sectors have lots of work .. these banna don’t want to work . They like hanging out at street corners yapping all day . 

You are hoping these cane cutters own car to drive to work, the cost to travel back and forth is too expensive, further more who wants to transport a filthy cane cutter with a sharp 22.

Most cane cutters leave their homes at 5.00 am or earlier to walk to the sugar factory,then transported by tractor or punts into the back dams to the fields.They start cutting cane as soon as the sun is up and finish some where between 3 to 4 pm, they would reach home the earliest 5 pm, if not much later if they visit the rum shop.

That routine is difficult to change, it's very difficult and hard work.

KP the sugar industry provide its own transportation when the workers assemble at a designated location at their place of employment . 

Workers ride bicycle from Enterprise to Enmore . In some case the trucks picked up workers from Enterprise and transport them to Diamond or LBI . 

My Dad works in the sugar industry for 42 years as a tractor operator. He is alive and share all the memories with us .

Enmore workers used to go to Uitvlugt and as far as Blairmont and so were workers from Blairmont were transported to Enmore . 

Amral posted:

The Guyanese people will never see any better standard of living if oil starts to flow. Is too much thiefing going on with the politicians and their friends 

They promised change a few years ago. 

Now they promised Oil.

What next?

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Amral posted:

The Guyanese people will never see any better standard of living if oil starts to flow. Is too much thiefing going on with the politicians and their friends 

They promised change a few years ago. 

Now they promised Oil.

What next?

Do you still  have close relatives living there?

Dave posted:

My Dad works in the sugar industry for 42 years as a tractor operator. He is alive and share all the memories with us .

Enmore workers used to go to Uitvlugt and as far as Blairmont and so were workers from Blairmont were transported to Enmore . 

I born on  Uitvlugt Estate my father ,my grandfather  and myself worked at Uitvlugt Estate. People coming from Enmore to work at Uitvlugt I don't believe that. I know some management staff would come from Georgetown University but for short period.Enmore is way too far for daily commute 

yuji22 posted:

The army is exclusive to "one group" of people in Guyana - AFC/PNC.

When were you rejected from the GDF?

Being hire by a Non PPP government army is one thing.  But as an East Indian military person if your spouse is not Afro Guyanese or if you look too much like an East Indian with straight hair then you will stay a private rank forever that is what several East Indian persons in the Guyana armed forces told me in the early 1980s. I asked about this and was told by an Afro Guyanese officer that to get up in the army you have to know how drink beers and interact with the officers at the military clubs after work and because East Indians had nothing in common with the Afro Guyanese officers this was in many cases not possible.   

kp posted:

Dave posted:

My Dad works in the sugar industry for 42 years as a tractor operator. He is alive and share all the memories with us .

Enmore workers used to go to Uitvlugt and as far as Blairmont and so were workers from Blairmont were transported to Enmore . 

I born on  Uitvlugt Estate my father ,my grandfather  and myself worked at Uitvlugt Estate. People coming from Enmore to work at Uitvlugt I don't believe that. I know some management staff would come from Georgetown University but for short period.Enmore is way too far for daily commute 

My dad was the workers rep and he is alive sharing these info with me .😊

Do you how far Enmore is from Uitvlugt, it's over one and half hour. My father was the factory manager he is 92 years  and is alive. Well there would be no cane to cut at the rate of Estate closures. 

Prashad posted:

Being hire by a Non PPP government army is one thing.  But as an East Indian military person if your spouse is not Afro Guyanese or if you look too much like an East Indian with straight hair then you will stay a private rank forever that is what several East Indian persons in the Guyana armed forces told me in the early 1980s. I asked about this and was told by an Afro Guyanese officer that to get up in the army you have to know how drink beers and interact with the officers at the military clubs after work and because East Indians had nothing in common with the Afro Guyanese officers this was in many cases not possible.   

Pure BS. I was a GDF officer. There have always been East Indians in the office corps.

kp posted:

Do you how far Enmore is from Uitvlugt, it's over one and half hour. My father was the factory manager he is 92 years  and is alive. Well there would be no cane to cut at the rate of Estate closures. 

KP,

Your dad will know Chuwee [his false name]from Leonora,a friend of mine.He was the Blackstone Power Plant Mechanic.

antabanta posted:

Prashad posted:

Being hire by a Non PPP government army is one thing.  But as an East Indian military person if your spouse is not Afro Guyanese or if you look too much like an East Indian with straight hair then you will stay a private rank forever that is what several East Indian persons in the Guyana armed forces told me in the early 1980s. I asked about this and was told by an Afro Guyanese officer that to get up in the army you have to know how drink beers and interact with the officers at the military clubs after work and because East Indians had nothing in common with the Afro Guyanese officers this was in many cases not possible.   

Pure BS. I was a GDF officer. There have always been East Indians in the office corps.

Don't play the r-ss and bend the truth. Name me one kollie that was married to a kollie that became the head of the GDF. 

Prashad posted:

antabanta posted:

Prashad posted:

Being hire by a Non PPP government army is one thing.  But as an East Indian military person if your spouse is not Afro Guyanese or if you look too much like an East Indian with straight hair then you will stay a private rank forever that is what several East Indian persons in the Guyana armed forces told me in the early 1980s. I asked about this and was told by an Afro Guyanese officer that to get up in the army you have to know how drink beers and interact with the officers at the military clubs after work and because East Indians had nothing in common with the Afro Guyanese officers this was in many cases not possible.   

Pure BS. I was a GDF officer. There have always been East Indians in the office corps.

Don't play the r-ss and bend the truth. Name me one kollie that was married to a kollie that became the head of the GDF. 

Joe Singh.

Don't play the r-ss.  Joe Singh wife's father was a red man and her mother was dougla.  Her grandmother was Indian.

Prashad posted:

antabanta posted:

Prashad posted:

Being hire by a Non PPP government army is one thing.  But as an East Indian military person if your spouse is not Afro Guyanese or if you look too much like an East Indian with straight hair then you will stay a private rank forever that is what several East Indian persons in the Guyana armed forces told me in the early 1980s. I asked about this and was told by an Afro Guyanese officer that to get up in the army you have to know how drink beers and interact with the officers at the military clubs after work and because East Indians had nothing in common with the Afro Guyanese officers this was in many cases not possible.   

Pure BS. I was a GDF officer. There have always been East Indians in the office corps.

Don't play the r-ss and bend the truth. Name me one kollie that was married to a kollie that became the head of the GDF. 

COS and Force Commander are by presidential appointment. If your koolie PPP wanted koolie COS and FC all they had to do was appoint accordingly. Your post was that East Indian persons in the Guyana military will always remain privates which is pure BS. You do know what a private is... right?