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‘We are prepared to go through fact based analysis of the state of our people before and after 1992’ – Jagdeo

 

THERE is justification of the concerns and objections raised by the People’s Progressive Party/ Civic (PPP/C). The declaration was made by Former President and Opposition Leader, Dr Bharrat Jagdeo, today at a Public Forum.

From the start of his presentation, he said the criticisms of having a national conversation about the current state of affairs, which will come from Government quarters, cannot hide the fact that there are real cases of injustices being meted out to the Guyanese people.

“Are we being unreasonable?” he asked, receiving a resounding no. Jagdeo added, “If the answer is no, then the fault is ours, in that until today we have not had this kind of conversation at the national level.”

The Opposition Leader made clear that after 23 years of nation building, all Guyanese people are better off.

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“Why is there a receptive ear (for the injustices to be justified)…in spite of all of this (evidence)?” he said, raising another question. Jagdeo surmised that the successes of the PPP/C have not been spoken about.

He added that the “demagogues” are using one argument – discrimination that happened under the former PPP/C – to justify “correction” and propagate fallacies in defense of Government’s actions.

“We are prepared to go through a fact based analysis of the state of Afro-Guyanese before 1992 and their state today…..the evidence will show they, like all our people are better off under a PPP/C government,” Jagdeo declared.

In a third question, he asked, “Is it not racist to assume all Afro-Guyanese voted for APNU+AFC?” And on that note, Jagdeo dealt with the issue of political discrimination being evidenced.

“The litmus test of politics will determine if you are employed,” he said, referring to the almost 2,000 young Amerindians because they were perceived to be supporters of the PPP/C.
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Making clear that there is full support for the military, which became a professional body under the PPP/C, Jagdeo stated that there is opposition the militarization of the state – the handpicking of ex-military personnel heading various state institutions.

All considered, the Opposition Leader made clear that “no amount of” criticisms will silence PPP/C.  “Our record of struggle is too long…the can label us with the hope that the labels will keep up quite,” he said.

His comments were made at today’s Public Forum’ on ‘Discrimination, Victimization, Witch-hunting and Intimidation’.
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Guyana is losing its label as ‘constitutional democracy’ under APNU+AFC – Nandlall

 

Witch-hunting is becoming institutionalized, according to People’s Progressive Party/ Civic (PPP/C) Member of Parliament (MP), Anil Nandlall.

His comment was put into context during a ‘Public Forum’ on ‘Discrimination, Victimization, Witch-hunting and Intimidation’ held today, where he traced the “natural evolution” of a dictatorship.

“The pressure is building on them and they are losing credibility in the process. Hence they have embarked on a course of activities…..they are moving away from Constitutional agencies….they are using those organisations to achieve a preconceived objective,” he said.

Drawing a parallel between countries, the English-speaking Caribbean, which are often described by Constitutional theorists as ‘constitutional democracies’, Nandlall charged that Guyana is none of these.

He explained this is seen in the fact that several organizations, separated from Executive influence, are being undermined.

As such, Nandlall charged that Coalition Government, over the last year, has embarked upon a deliberate and centrally orchestrated course of action to persecute and which-hunt ministers and officials of the PPP/C administration in order to prove that their widespread public allegations of corruption.

However, the PPP/C MP noted that the Coalition Government needs the blind loyalty of the constitutional institutions in order to succeed. “Thus far, apparently, they have been unable to penetrate the cloak of independence which the aforesaid institutions enjoy,” he said.

Nandlall added, “In consequence, we are witnessing a clear and consistent strategy to avoid the engagement of these institutions as they continue to pursue their vindictive agenda.”

He explained, “Not satisfied with the Auditor General’s Reports over the last several years, the regime, in violation of the Constitution and the Audit Act, simply shoved aside the Audit Office, handpicked over a dozen auditors, most of them being their allies and cronies and are paying them hundreds of millions of dollars to do “forensic audits”. Still, these audits are unable to unearth the type of evidence which they seek, although, the most unconventional methods are being employed by some of these Auditors.

“Dozens of files have been sent to the Police Force and to the Director of Public Prosecutions with firm instructions to investigate and charge. Again, the response from the Police and the DPP has been disappointing to those who have already sharpened their political hatchets. The situation is exacerbated by every passing day because it results in considerable damage to their credibility. After all, they have intoxicated their supporters with the propaganda that the PPP administration is guilty of massive corruption in office but after one year in complete control of the government and State machinery, they are unable to prefer charges.

“Not being able to exert the type of pressure and influence over the Police Force and the DPP as they would like, because of the constitutional and institutional insulations to which I have referred above, greater reliance is now being placed upon SARU and SOCU, two organizations that are politically staffed and directed to conduct investigations with the hope that they can find or I dare say, manufacture the required evidence. Still yet the desired results are not forthcoming.”

According to him, in the meanwhile, the crescendo of frustration and desperation continues to build.   “As a result, laws and protocols are being drafted to strengthen and enlarge the powers of SARU and SOCU. Recently, there has been an expressed intention to establish “a Special Prosecutors’ Office”. The obvious objective is to circumvent the DPP or at least to emasculate that office of the autonomy and independence guaranteed to it by the Constitution. I have no doubt that we will soon hear about the establishment of “Special Courts” where these charges will be heard and determined,” he said.

Nandlall underscored the fact that the Government is handpicking its own auditors and directing them who, what, how and where to audit; when these audit reports are completed, they are then sent to two political outfits masquerading as law enforcement agencies, SARU and SOCU, which are being directed who and what to investigate; and when these investigations are concluded, the findings will be sent to a Special Prosecutors Office for legal advice. “This will be an office that will be staffed by the Government with its cronies. Charges will be instituted and will be prosecuted by persons from this politically tainted unit. These charges will be heard and determined by the “Special Courts” which I anticipate will be established and which will be presided over by magistrates in whom the Government resides great confidence. That the decisions will be perverse, I am in no doubt,” he said.

The PPP/C MP added, “In conclusion, the Constitution and the rule of law are under siege. Authoritarianism is building a formidable foundation. Today, the target is the PPP’s leadership and its supporters.”

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Go Jagdeo Go !

Expose dem AFC/PNC crooks and liars !

They are a bunch of racist crooks. Guyana is headed to an era of PNC dictatorship, AFC will be peed on after Granger rigs the next election with his military friends.

Granger is using code words like "The clock is ticking" and Burnham was like a god !

Go Jagdeo Go !

Jagdeo for President ! Long Live Bharat !

Long live the champion for Indos !

FM
Nehru posted:

Great Jon ny the magnificent PPP. The only group that can build a PROGRESSIVE Guyana.

Correct Bhai,

Guyanese are now eating grass under these AFC/PNC crooks. The treasury has been emptied and looted in just over a year.

"The clock is ticking" tek bai tek" is the new code word.

AFC/PNC biggest achievement so far is the Grass Monument at Yumana Yana.

FM
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Dr. Jagdeo has every right to speak of the injustice and racial inequality of the Guyanese people. When I said that the social cohesion ministry was created to further divide the nation, some believe I was insane. The broad based coalition government has one seat more than the PPP and that speaks volume. You can't deny one of the largest group people their basic right and expect them to take it sitting down. I fully supported Dr. Jagdeo and I hope he can continue to put pressure on the coalition.

FM
Cobra posted:

Dr. Jagdeo has every right to speak of the injustice and racial inequality of the Guyanese people. When I said that the social cohesion ministry was created to further divide the nation, some believe I was insane. The broad based coalition government has one seat more than the PPP and that speaks volume. You can't deny one of the largest group people their basic right and expect them to take it sitting down. I fully supported Dr. Jagdeo and I hope he can continue to put pressure on the coalition.

Careful using words such as, "Dr Dr Jags" an' "put pressure on the colo."

cain
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Cobra posted:

I am not here to be funny. It's a serious situation that must be taken seriously.

Dam right! I wholeheartedly agree. Whoever the culprit is that cut the cheese should own up...doan jus sit there an smile. Be proud it still works.

 

Django posted:

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Look at them fellas faces they looked sour,r@ss BJ is only one looks like he smiling.

The Census report got them bassidy.

cain
Cobra posted:

Dr. Jagdeo has every right to speak of the injustice and racial inequality of the Guyanese people. When I said that the social cohesion ministry was created to further divide the nation, some believe I was insane. The broad based coalition government has one seat more than the PPP and that speaks volume. You can't deny one of the largest group people their basic right and expect them to take it sitting down. I fully supported Dr. Jagdeo and I hope he can continue to put pressure on the coalition.

We are prepared to go through fact based analysis of the state of our people before and after 1992’ – Jagdeo

Let me bust your bubble that largest group [Indians] are 39.83% of the population [2012 Census],Jagdeo is harmimg the PPP by making such statements,he is living in the past thinking Indians are 50+ %.Think about  the reaction of 60+ % population will the want to support that party??

Django
yuji22 posted:

Bharat has every reason to smile. AFC/PNC turned out to become a bunch of daytime crooks.

Yes.  Guyanese are now accusing APNU AFC of being like the PPP.  Corrupt, incompetent, and riddled with cronyism.

The say they voted for "Change not Exchange".

Why you think that this makes the PPP look good is interesting.

FM
Cobra posted:

Dr. Jagdeo has every right to speak of the injustice and racial inequality of the Guyanese people. When I said that the social cohesion ministry was created to further divide the nation, some believe I was insane. The broad based coalition government has one seat more than the PPP and that speaks volume. You can't deny one of the largest group people their basic right and expect them to take it sitting down. I fully supported Dr. Jagdeo and I hope he can continue to put pressure on the coalition.

Listen Mr. Racist, we here on GNI can go to our tribal corners, as can ethnic leaders like David Hinds and Ravi Dev. Ethnic organizations are there to represent and articulate the interests of their groups. Provided that this is done without racist attacks on other groups there is nothing wrong with this.  Africans can advocate for their interests without calling every Indian  a drug dealer, and similarly East Indians can do the same without calling every African a criminal with the sole goal of attacking "Hardworking Indians".

Jagdeo's current screams are of that of an ethnic leader.  Why was Jagdeo so proud earlier this year that the PPP had consolidated its East Indian base?  Which is currently 45% of the voters and DECLINING.

 Apart from the fact that this base is shrinking, both in relative and in absolute terms, why is there no discussion led by Jagdeo as to why 23 years of rule led to African and mixed Guyanese being as hostile to the PPP as they were in 1997?

And why aren't others in the PPP upbraiding him for introducing a line of discussion which will surely bring defeat for the PPP, given the changing demographics of the voting age population?

I expect a national leader to seek solutions to the issue of ethnic insecurity in Guyana. Jagdeo instead worsens it by using code language which can be interpreted to mean a threat to take back Guyana for Indians (away from blacks).

So why isn't Jagdeo admitting that the PPP didn't do enough to reassure Africans that they aren't racist to them? Why didn't the PPP respond to accusations that Africans were being squeezed out of leadership slots and reduced to second class status, and in fact made to feel that they should have no rights as Guyanese?  Because this is the perception of the African (and the majority of the mixed) populations.

So when Jagdeo decides to talk intelligently on racism and admit that it is not only the PNC which has an image of ethnic exclusion, but also the PPP then he can have the legitimacy to talk on racism.

But he still doesn't get it. Every election Africans have signaled that they fear the PPP.  And the fear that they had in 2015 was as great as it was in 1992.  So he might think that the PPP wasn't racist, but Africans tend to differ, and his inability to defend himself against charges of being an institutional racist give credence to the fact that this is exactly what he is.

 

 

FM

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