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We cannot attain peace without strength.
When president Barrack Obama bows to a Saudi King, he weakens the image of one of the mightiest nations of the free world, the United States of America. The Obama administration has appeased many enemy states hoping to bring better understanding between the east and west. The escalation of protest and riots around the world by Muslims is the result of America's weakness to stand up and send a clear message of defiance. This global shame is brought on America by President Obama. Peace without strength is like music without instruments.

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Originally Posted by Cobra:

We cannot attain peace without strength.
When president Barrack Obama bows to a Saudi King, he weakens the image of one of the mightiest nations of the free world, the United States of America. The Obama administration has appeased many enemy states hoping to bring better understanding between the east and west. The escalation of protest and riots around the world by Muslims is the result of America's weakness to stand up and send a clear message of defiance. This global shame is brought on America by President Obama. Peace without strength is like music without instruments.

 What do you want him to do? Should he like  another Coeur de Leon launch a new crusade? You are as hapless as that ignoramus who want to to bring back Bolton and the rest of the neocons to start fresh wars weekly.  They kill themselves, ruin their countries and heap misery on themselves. Why wage war on a people waging war on themselves?

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

We cannot attain peace without strength.
When president Barrack Obama bows to a Saudi King, he weakens the image of one of the mightiest nations of the free world, the United States of America. The Obama administration has appeased many enemy states hoping to bring better understanding between the east and west. The escalation of protest and riots around the world by Muslims is the result of America's weakness to stand up and send a clear message of defiance. This global shame is brought on America by President Obama. Peace without strength is like music without instruments.

 What do you want him to do?

Wow!!!!  It's early in the weekend to be drunk senseless.  You must be on high on piwari!

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

We cannot attain peace without strength.
When president Barrack Obama bows to a Saudi King, he weakens the image of one of the mightiest nations of the free world, the United States of America. The Obama administration has appeased many enemy states hoping to bring better understanding between the east and west. The escalation of protest and riots around the world by Muslims is the result of America's weakness to stand up and send a clear message of defiance. This global shame is brought on America by President Obama. Peace without strength is like music without instruments.

 What do you want him to do?

Wow!!!!  It's early in the weekend to be drunk senseless.  You must be on high on piwari!

 Very sensible. Being an ass that is was heavy brain-work to construct!

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

 What do you want him to do?

Wow!!!!  It's early in the weekend to be drunk senseless.  You must be on high on piwari!

 Very sensible. Being an ass that is was heavy brain-work to construct!

Has it ever occurred to you to shut your trap when you don't know what to say!  But as they say, empty vessels............!!!!

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

 What do you want him to do?

Wow!!!!  It's early in the weekend to be drunk senseless.  You must be on high on piwari!

 Very sensible. Being an ass that is was heavy brain-work to construct!

Has it ever occurred to you to shut your trap when you don't know what to say!  But as they say, empty vessels............!!!!

 You are not equipped to do it. You are indeed filled...to the brim with useless attempts at racist insults when you ought to be focus on conveying some information.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

The rioters in Egypt was chanting "Obama, Obama, we're 1.5 billion Osama. That's not was America used to hear before this administration.

And Osama sleeps with the fishes...let them be a million five dead men if the want!

America's interest across 20 countries is threatened by Obama's foreign policy to make friends with 1.5 billion Osama. We need that like a hole in the head.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

The rioters in Egypt was chanting "Obama, Obama, we're 1.5 billion Osama. That's not was America used to hear before this administration.

And Osama sleeps with the fishes...let them be a million five dead men if the want!

America's interest across 20 countries is threatened by Obama's foreign policy to make friends with 1.5 billion Osama. We need that like a hole in the head.

What is your logic??!! It's better to wage war than talk peace? Have you ever been in a fight? Or have any idea what it is to be in a fire trench? How can someone like you preach hegemony?

Ok ... I get it ... this is just another meaningless anti-Obama rant. So if he continues to wage war you slam him for not bringing home the troops. If he talks peace you slam his foreign policy. Is that it? 

A
Originally Posted by Cobra:

We cannot attain peace without strength.
When president Barrack Obama bows to a Saudi King, he weakens the image of one of the mightiest nations of the free world, the United States of America. The Obama administration has appeased many enemy states hoping to bring better understanding between the east and west. The escalation of protest and riots around the world by Muslims is the result of America's weakness to stand up and send a clear message of defiance. This global shame is brought on America by President Obama. Peace without strength is like music without instruments.


The German publication Spiegel recently commented, "Obama's middle East policy is in ruins." They went on to comment that "Obama's policy of restraint is increasingly looking like impotence. And his much touted outreach to the muslim world is now looking naive and misguided."

 

Rev

 

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

You love to run off like a flowing river about anti-Obama. Why said anything about WAR?

Really?? You do realize I only respond to your love for running off like a lunatic against Obama? If America isn't trying to be friendly with nations what else would they be? You do understand that not being friendly usually leads to enmity which usually leads to war?

Once again, another post so meaningless that even you don't understand your own words.

A

When did Romney talk peace? He is barely a candidate and wants to dictate foreign policy. That's so laughable. And he already is bowing to his great lord, Israel. And he ent nothing yet. Just a big mouth who keeps jumping the gun so much that he's shooting himself in the foot then trying to spin what he said. All the signs of a loser. Romney wants to go to war with Iran on no evidence. Israel has shown no evidence that Iran has nuclear armaments. None. Everyone agrees that they have nuclear power but not weapons. Israel is bent on destroying them but it will only destroy the US in turn. The US already does not have money to bail itself out and the Zionists want to drag the US into another war. On top of that they want the US to give them billions of dollars in arms. If that ent shameful. no disgraceful then I don't know what is. And no Israel is not the only democracy in the ME right now. Palestine is also. Regardless of who is in power and what their policies are.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
 

America's interest across 20 countries is threatened by Obama's foreign policy to make friends with 1.5 billion Osama. We need that like a hole in the head.

The US made friends with Osama back in the 1980s, and stayed friends with him, which is why he was assassinated (apparently while lying on the floor) instead of brought to (a potentially embarassing) trial.

 

The Osamas of the world are frequently useful to the Anglo-Americans, which is why they receive American support in Libya and Syria. And today the London Independent publishes this story (maybe now Obama can finally get those wars going in Syria and Iran): 

 

 

Exclusive: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'

 
 The killings of the US ambassador to Libya and three of his staff were likely to have been the result of a serious and continuing security breach, The Independent can reveal.
 

American officials believe the attack was planned, but Chris Stevens had been back in the country only a short while and the details of his visit to Benghazi, where he and his staff died, were meant to be confidential.

 

The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the "safe house" in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed "safe".

Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.

 

According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

 

Mr Stevens had been on a visit to Germany, Austria and Sweden and had just returned to Libya when the Benghazi trip took place with the US embassy's security staff deciding that the trip could be undertaken safely.

 

Eight Americans, some from the military, were wounded in the attack which claimed the lives of Mr Stevens, Sean Smith, an information officer, and two US Marines. All staff from Benghazi have now been moved to the capital, Tripoli, and those whose work is deemed to be non-essential may be flown out of Libya.

 

In the meantime a Marine Corps FAST Anti-Terrorism Reaction Team has already arrived in the country from a base in Spain and other personnel are believed to be on the way. Additional units have been put on standby to move to other states where their presence may be needed in the outbreak of anti-American fury triggered by publicity about a film which demeaned the Prophet Mohamed.

 

A mob of several hundred stormed the US embassy in the Yemeni capital Sanaa yesterday. Other missions which have been put on special alert include almost all those in the Middle East, as well as in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Armenia, Burundi and Zambia.

 

Senior officials are increasingly convinced, however, that the ferocious nature of the Benghazi attack, in which rocket-propelled grenades were used, indicated it was not the result of spontaneous anger due to the video, called Innocence of Muslims. Patrick Kennedy, Under-Secretary at the State Department, said he was convinced the assault was planned due to its extensive nature and the proliferation of weapons.

There is growing belief that the attack was in revenge for the killing in a drone strike in Pakistan of Mohammed Hassan Qaed, an al-Qa'ida operative who was, as his nom-de-guerre Abu Yahya al-Libi suggests, from Libya, and timed for the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.

 

Senator Bill Nelson, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said: "I am asking my colleagues on the committee to immediately investigate what role al-Qa'ida or its affiliates may have played in the attack and to take appropriate action."

According to security sources the consulate had been given a "health check" in preparation for any violence connected to the 9/11 anniversary. In the event, the perimeter was breached within 15 minutes of an angry crowd starting to attack it at around 10pm on Tuesday night. There was, according to witnesses, little defence put up by the 30 or more local guards meant to protect the staff. Ali Fetori, a 59-year-old accountant who lives near by, said: "The security people just all ran away and the people in charge were the young men with guns and bombs."

 

Wissam Buhmeid, the commander of the Tripoli government-sanctioned Libya's Shield Brigade, effectively a police force for Benghazi, maintained that it was anger over the Mohamed video which made the guards abandon their post. "There were definitely people from the security forces who let the attack happen because they were themselves offended by the film; they would absolutely put their loyalty to the Prophet over the consulate. The deaths are all nothing compared to insulting the Prophet."

 

Mr Stevens, it is believed, was left in the building by the rest of the staff after they failed to find him in dense smoke caused by a blaze which had engulfed the building. He was discovered lying unconscious by local people and taken to a hospital, the Benghazi Medical Centre, where, according to a doctor, Ziad Abu Ziad, he died from smoke inhalation.

 

An eight-strong American rescue team was sent from Tripoli and taken by troops under Captain Fathi al- Obeidi, of the February 17 Brigade, to the secret safe house to extract around 40 US staff. The building then came under fire from heavy weapons. "I don't know how they found the place to carry out the attack. It was planned, the accuracy with which the mortars hit us was too good for any ordinary revolutionaries," said Captain Obeidi. "It began to rain down on us, about six mortars fell directly on the path to the villa."

 

Libyan reinforcements eventually arrived, and the attack ended. News had arrived of Mr Stevens, and his body was picked up from the hospital and taken back to Tripoli with the other dead and the survivors.

 

Mr Stevens' mother, Mary Commanday, spoke of her son yesterday. "He did love what he did, and he did a very good job with it. He could have done a lot of other things, but this was his passion. I have a hole in my heart," she said.

 

Global anger: The protests spread

Yemen

The furore across the Middle East over the controversial film about the Prophet Mohamed is now threatening to get out of control. In Sana'a, the Yemeni capital, yesterday around 5,000 demonstrators attacked the US embassy, leaving at least 15 people injured. Young protesters, shouted: "We sacrifice ourselves for you, Messenger of God," smashed windows of the security offices and burned at least five cars, witnesses said.

Egypt

Egypt's Islamist President Mohamed Morsi yesterday condemned the attack in Benghazi that killed the US ambassador. In a speech in Brussels, Mr Morsi said he had spoken to President Obama and condemned "in the clearest terms" the Tuesday attacks. Despite this, and possibly playing to a domestic audience, President Obama said yesterday that "I don't think we would consider them an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy".

Demonstrators in Cairo attacked the mission on Tuesday evening and protests have continued since.

Iraq

Militants said the anti-Islamic film "will put all the American interests Iraq in danger" and called on Muslims everywhere to "face our joint enemy", as protesters in Baghdad burned American flags yesterday. The warning from the Iranian-backed group Asaib Ahl al-Haq came as demonstrators demanded the closure of the US embassy in the capital.

Bangladesh

Islamists warned they may "besiege" the US embassy in Dhaka after security forces stopped around 1,000 protesters marching to the building. The Khelafat Andolon group called for bigger protests as demonstrators threw their fists in the air, burned the flag and chanted anti-US slogans.

Others

There was a Hamas-organised protest in Gaza City, and as many as 100 Arab Israelis took to the streets in Tel Aviv. In Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai postponed a trip to Norway, fearing violence. Officials in Pakistan said they "expected protests". Protesters in Tunis burnt US flags.

 
FM

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