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Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC. Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

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Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC ? Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

The AFC will be there next time much to yours and the PPP chagrin. As I said, they are a natural collecting receptacle  for those discontented with the two main parties and as such they will have considerable support.

 

Those not dumb as you are know that the they AFC is the means to increase the potentials for alternative outcomes in our political debates th an the classic PPP/PNC dichotomy.  They help us avoid  politics as a zero sum game. The political system is greatly enhanced when there is options for alternative means to political voice and exit strategies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC ? Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

The AFC will be there next time much to yours and the PPP chagrin. As I said, they are a natural collecting receptacle  for those discontented with the two main parties and as such they will have considerable support.

 

Those not dumb as you are know that the they AFC is the means to increase the potentials for alternative outcomes in our political debates th an the classic PPP/PNC dichotomy.  They help us avoid  politics as a zero sum game. The political system is greatly enhanced when there is options for alternative means to political voice and exit strategies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer the question. Why did top brass leader Gerhard leave ? 

 

The AFC will continue to decline unless it addresses it's inner demons and fears.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC ? Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

The AFC will be there next time much to yours and the PPP chagrin. As I said, they are a natural collecting receptacle  for those discontented with the two main parties and as such they will have considerable support.

 

Those not dumb as you are know that the they AFC is the means to increase the potentials for alternative outcomes in our political debates th an the classic PPP/PNC dichotomy.  They help us avoid  politics as a zero sum game. The political system is greatly enhanced when there is options for alternative means to political voice and exit strategies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer the question. Why did top brass leader Gerhard leave ? 

 

The AFC will continue to decline unless it addresses it's inner demons and fears.

I am not interested and do not care where GR is. I care that the AFC continues to exist.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC ? Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

The AFC will be there next time much to yours and the PPP chagrin. As I said, they are a natural collecting receptacle  for those discontented with the two main parties and as such they will have considerable support.

 

Those not dumb as you are know that the they AFC is the means to increase the potentials for alternative outcomes in our political debates th an the classic PPP/PNC dichotomy.  They help us avoid  politics as a zero sum game. The political system is greatly enhanced when there is options for alternative means to political voice and exit strategies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer the question. Why did top brass leader Gerhard leave ? 

 

The AFC will continue to decline unless it addresses it's inner demons and fears.

I am not interested and do not care where GR is. I care that the AFC continues to exist.

You are dodging the question. My question was:

 

Why did Gerhard leave the AFC ?

 

Failure to tackle alleged internal Corruption ?

 

Leadership struggle ?

 

Sinking Ship ?

 

Dictatorship leadership style ?

 

All of the above.

 

Fact: Gerhard's departure is like cutting off one's leg.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC ? Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

The AFC will be there next time much to yours and the PPP chagrin. As I said, they are a natural collecting receptacle  for those discontented with the two main parties and as such they will have considerable support.

 

Those not dumb as you are know that the they AFC is the means to increase the potentials for alternative outcomes in our political debates th an the classic PPP/PNC dichotomy.  They help us avoid  politics as a zero sum game. The political system is greatly enhanced when there is options for alternative means to political voice and exit strategies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer the question. Why did top brass leader Gerhard leave ? 

 

The AFC will continue to decline unless it addresses it's inner demons and fears.

I am not interested and do not care where GR is. I care that the AFC continues to exist.

You are dodging the question. My question was:

 

Why did Gerhard leave the AFC ?

 

Failure to tackle alleged internal Corruption ?

 

Leadership struggle ?

 

Sinking Ship ?

 

Dictatorship leadership style ?

 

All of the above.

 

Fact: Gerhard's departure is like cutting off one's leg.

I am just not inclined to waste time with meat-heads.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC ? Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

The AFC will be there next time much to yours and the PPP chagrin. As I said, they are a natural collecting receptacle  for those discontented with the two main parties and as such they will have considerable support.

 

Those not dumb as you are know that the they AFC is the means to increase the potentials for alternative outcomes in our political debates th an the classic PPP/PNC dichotomy.  They help us avoid  politics as a zero sum game. The political system is greatly enhanced when there is options for alternative means to political voice and exit strategies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer the question. Why did top brass leader Gerhard leave ? 

 

The AFC will continue to decline unless it addresses it's inner demons and fears.

I am not interested and do not care where GR is. I care that the AFC continues to exist.

You are dodging the question. My question was:

 

Why did Gerhard leave the AFC ?

 

Failure to tackle alleged internal Corruption ?

 

Leadership struggle ?

 

Sinking Ship ?

 

Dictatorship leadership style ?

 

All of the above.

 

Fact: Gerhard's departure is like cutting off one's leg.

I am just not inclined to waste time with meat-heads.

Dunce,

 

Gerhard's departure is like the AFC chopping off one of their feet. Take that in your pipe and smoke it.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC ? Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

The AFC will be there next time much to yours and the PPP chagrin. As I said, they are a natural collecting receptacle  for those discontented with the two main parties and as such they will have considerable support.

 

Those not dumb as you are know that the they AFC is the means to increase the potentials for alternative outcomes in our political debates th an the classic PPP/PNC dichotomy.  They help us avoid  politics as a zero sum game. The political system is greatly enhanced when there is options for alternative means to political voice and exit strategies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer the question. Why did top brass leader Gerhard leave ? 

 

The AFC will continue to decline unless it addresses it's inner demons and fears.

I am not interested and do not care where GR is. I care that the AFC continues to exist.

You are dodging the question. My question was:

 

Why did Gerhard leave the AFC ?

 

Failure to tackle alleged internal Corruption ?

 

Leadership struggle ?

 

Sinking Ship ?

 

Dictatorship leadership style ?

 

All of the above.

 

Fact: Gerhard's departure is like cutting off one's leg.

I am just not inclined to waste time with meat-heads.

Dunce,

 

Gerhard's departure is like the AFC chopping off one of their feet. Take that in your pipe and smoke it.

Silly man, the opposition, the AFC and the PNC are not pulling people by force of personalities. Granger is as stale as last years bread and no one in the AFC has charisma or demonstrated clear and consistent ideals that are captivating and paradigm shifting to be deemed real change agents.

 

They are against the PPP and that is the only existential motive force in the political system at the moment. If these people truly begin to focus on the broken parts of our political reality and articulate necessary fixes they will grind the PPP into the dust instantly.

 

It is in this area where TK shines and is defining himself as a change agent above everyone in the society. Get it in your head, agree or not there is no one like him doing the things that is necessary to lay down the necessary memes that will motivate change.

 

Leadership is not about personality or charisma or as in our system where one aged into the role by being long in the trenches as a grunt. Gerhard leaving the AFC will be a loss of a good foot soldier. He only recently begin to become a public figure by defining himself as an individual with a message as opposed to being an AFC messenger. TK's loss was a kick in the groin. His leaving troubles me and points to instability of the central core and the lack of consensus mechanisms. It does not mean the AFC will not be a force in the next elections. They are anti PPP and that is enough for many.

 

Again, and let me make it clear, Gerhard's  loss will not harm the AFC. It is a loss to the AFC because they could not keep a good man that could be their future.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC ? Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

The AFC will be there next time much to yours and the PPP chagrin. As I said, they are a natural collecting receptacle  for those discontented with the two main parties and as such they will have considerable support.

 

Those not dumb as you are know that the they AFC is the means to increase the potentials for alternative outcomes in our political debates th an the classic PPP/PNC dichotomy.  They help us avoid  politics as a zero sum game. The political system is greatly enhanced when there is options for alternative means to political voice and exit strategies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer the question. Why did top brass leader Gerhard leave ? 

 

The AFC will continue to decline unless it addresses it's inner demons and fears.

I am not interested and do not care where GR is. I care that the AFC continues to exist.

You are dodging the question. My question was:

 

Why did Gerhard leave the AFC ?

 

Failure to tackle alleged internal Corruption ?

 

Leadership struggle ?

 

Sinking Ship ?

 

Dictatorship leadership style ?

 

All of the above.

 

Fact: Gerhard's departure is like cutting off one's leg.

I am just not inclined to waste time with meat-heads.

Dunce,

 

Gerhard's departure is like the AFC chopping off one of their feet. Take that in your pipe and smoke it.

Silly man, the opposition, the AFC and the PNC are not pulling people by force of personalities. Granger is as stale as last years bread and no one in the AFC has charisma or demonstrated clear and consistent ideals that are captivating and paradigm shifting to be deemed real change agents.

 

They are against the PPP and that is the only existential motive force in the political system at the moment. If these people truly begin to focus on the broken parts of our political reality and articulate necessary fixes they will grind the PPP into the dust instantly.

 

It is in this area where TK shines and is defining himself as a change agent above everyone in the society. Get it in your head, agree or not there is no one like him doing the things that is necessary to lay down the necessary memes that will motivate change.

 

Leadership is not about personality or charisma or as in our system where one aged into the role by being long in the trenches as a grunt. Gerhard leaving the AFC will be a loss of a good foot soldier. He only recently begin to become a public figure by defining himself as an individual with a message as opposed to being an AFC messenger. TK's loss was a kick in the groin. His leaving troubles me and points to instability of the central core and the lack of consensus mechanisms. It does not mean the AFC will not be a force in the next elections. They are anti PPP and that is enough for many.

 

Again, and let me make it clear, Gerhard's  loss will not harm the AFC. It is a loss to the AFC because they could not keep a good man that could be their future.

Mr TK is not a part of any party for truth. Yesterday on his FB page he say how he is not a member of PNC will not vote. He is a friend of the granger family like. 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC ? Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

The AFC will be there next time much to yours and the PPP chagrin. As I said, they are a natural collecting receptacle  for those discontented with the two main parties and as such they will have considerable support.

 

Those not dumb as you are know that the they AFC is the means to increase the potentials for alternative outcomes in our political debates th an the classic PPP/PNC dichotomy.  They help us avoid  politics as a zero sum game. The political system is greatly enhanced when there is options for alternative means to political voice and exit strategies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer the question. Why did top brass leader Gerhard leave ? 

 

The AFC will continue to decline unless it addresses it's inner demons and fears.

I am not interested and do not care where GR is. I care that the AFC continues to exist.

You are dodging the question. My question was:

 

Why did Gerhard leave the AFC ?

 

Failure to tackle alleged internal Corruption ?

 

Leadership struggle ?

 

Sinking Ship ?

 

Dictatorship leadership style ?

 

All of the above.

 

Fact: Gerhard's departure is like cutting off one's leg.

I am just not inclined to waste time with meat-heads.

Dunce,

 

Gerhard's departure is like the AFC chopping off one of their feet. Take that in your pipe and smoke it.

Silly man, the opposition, the AFC and the PNC are not pulling people by force of personalities. Granger is as stale as last years bread and no one in the AFC has charisma or demonstrated clear and consistent ideals that are captivating and paradigm shifting to be deemed real change agents.

 

They are against the PPP and that is the only existential motive force in the political system at the moment. If these people truly begin to focus on the broken parts of our political reality and articulate necessary fixes they will grind the PPP into the dust instantly.

 

It is in this area where TK shines and is defining himself as a change agent above everyone in the society. Get it in your head, agree or not there is no one like him doing the things that is necessary to lay down the necessary memes that will motivate change.

 

Leadership is not about personality or charisma or as in our system where one aged into the role by being long in the trenches as a grunt. Gerhard leaving the AFC will be a loss of a good foot soldier. He only recently begin to become a public figure by defining himself as an individual with a message as opposed to being an AFC messenger. TK's loss was a kick in the groin. His leaving troubles me and points to instability of the central core and the lack of consensus mechanisms. It does not mean the AFC will not be a force in the next elections. They are anti PPP and that is enough for many.

 

Again, and let me make it clear, Gerhard's  loss will not harm the AFC. It is a loss to the AFC because they could not keep a good man that could be their future.

Mr TK is not a part of any party for truth. Yesterday on his FB page he say how he is not a member of PNC will not vote. He is a friend of the granger family like. 

 

Is TK now running away from the PNC ?

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Find real wuk to do. Gerhard has not left the AFC he is very much part of the AFC. Go on facebook and ask David Patterson their GS and he will confirm or answer whatever bullshit you are peddling here.

 

Besides who gives a damn about Gerhard and where he goes or comes?

People do care because Gerhard use to lie to the cane cutters and tell them what AFC has the best plan for them. Is he going to speak against the AFC now? You can fool the all people one time, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Find real wuk to do. Gerhard has not left the AFC he is very much part of the AFC. Go on facebook and ask David Patterson their GS and he will confirm or answer whatever bullshit you are peddling here.

 

Besides who gives a damn about Gerhard and where he goes or comes?

People do care because Gerhard use to lie to the cane cutters and tell them what AFC has the best plan for them. Is he going to speak against the AFC now? You can fool the all people one time, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

AFC still better than PPP. What is you problem?

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC. Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

 

I was 100 percent accurate about the dead AFC.

FM
 Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC. Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

 

I was 100 percent accurate about the dead AFC.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Get someone nearby to explain what that means.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The AFC is entering it's final political phase as top brass supporter Gerhard jumps in what is seen as a sinking ship. The failure of the AFC to see it's fault has been one it's biggest failure. Everyone who constructively criticized the party was seen as a threat.

 

I ask this question, if the AFC was so honest and fought for the people, then why did the young and talented Gerhard leave ? I am sure that Gerhard will some day reveal the reasons for his departure and it will contain some bombshells.

 

Why was Gerhard denied a seat which was awarded over less qualified candidates ?

 

How much money did Gerhard contribute to the AFC ?

 

Why was Yusuf branded a traitor when he revealed corruption ?

 

Why did we see alleged spending for million dollar Baigan and curass ?

 

Lots more to ask but will choose to do later.

 

You see folks, the AFC is living in denial that it is in decline and the first sign of decline is when top brass members cross the fence. The grassroots supporters appears to have lost interest and the AFC has been branded by as an arm of the PNC.

 

Another problem is the inability to formally announce the head and a commander in chief for the AFC. Will they become like the WPA ? Only time will tell. Local elections are around the corner and it will be a testimony of how well the AFC is liked or disliked.

 

Time for the AFC to wake up from it's deep sleep before it is too late.

Since Gerhard left the AFC, hundreds more of the same or even better caliber joined the AFC.  No person is indispensable.

 

Look at the work young men like Vladimir are doing in Linden for the AFC, Gerhard can never do that.

 

Look at Mark Ross in the sugar belt and Berbice - Gerhard cannot fill those shoes.

 

Look at Ms Aurell Glasow from den Anstell, cleaning up on the West Demerara for the AFC, Gerhard cannot do that for the APNU.

 

So GOD is great, when one soldier abandon the cause, hundreds join.

FM

 

AFC is finished. Get used to eat. Time to eat humble pie.

 

This is political discussion forum. This is website for all party supporters. Dissenting views and free speech are the foundations of western civilization.

 

You have never gotten used to the fact that some people will not support your AFC party and will deliver as much as is dished out.

 

Stop cussing down other posters, man up and debate.

 

AFC supporters personally attack PPP posters. Politicians and political parties are fair game but attacking posters with dissenting views show weakness and insecurity.

FM
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Since the 2011 elections, the A.F.C had sidelined Gerhard and deprive him of the MP seat. Since then his appearance on their behalf has became less frequent. Gerhard was noticeable absent at the AFC Congress,reliable sources had confirmed the he has severed ties with that political gathering.

Gerhard isn't no fool, he knows to his gut that the AFC changes of returning to Parliament is very slim.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Since the 2011 elections, the A.F.C had sidelined Gerhard and deprive him of the MP seat. Since then his appearance on their behalf has became less frequent. Gerhard was noticeable absent at the AFC Congress,reliable sources had confirmed the he has severed ties with that political gathering.

Gerhard isn't no fool, he knows to his gut that the AFC changes of returning to Parliament is very slim.

Again, a person has a right to associate, so what is your problem.  Why are you making a mountain out of a mole hill OLD MAN CONSCIENCE.

 

Why you all in the PPP do not try to get him to associate with the corkked PPP.

 

The man choose Granger and that is his right.

 

I do not think Granger has the political experience to close the show and thus the PPP might very well win the plurality with a smaller tally.

 

HOW you all gonna feel with 42%?

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:

Why dont the crooked PPP get Gerhard to join, all you all got to do is give him 2 german truck contract.

Why don't the crooks in the AFC produce INDEPENDENT audited financial statements according to their own constitution for the past several years ?

 

The AFC consists of a bunch of crooks, liar and conmen. They are a shameless bunch.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by KishanB:

Why dont the crooked PPP get Gerhard to join, all you all got to do is give him 2 german truck contract.

Why don't the crooks in the AFC produce INDEPENDENT audited financial statements according to their own constitution for the past several years ?

 

The AFC consists of a bunch of crooks, liar and conmen. They are a shameless bunch.

People who give the AFC money, their supporters across the board are not asking them for anything you are asking them?

 

Are you an AFC supporter? Has the government accounted for the 4.5 Billion they illegally spent? that is what is against the law and since when the PPP gives a shit about AFC or any constitution?

 

Go and ask Ramotar to address all the violations of the Guyana constitution the PPP are trampling on daily.

 

As a man who has given money to the AFC before and thousands like me dont want no accounting of any money because we know it was well spent and we will do it again.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Gerhard knows to his gut, the obvious results for the A.F.C at the upcoming elections, so he prehaps to spend his time watering his roses.

How many times will you post the same lines.

 

Not because you talk FART 40 times mean it is the truth, especially when it is coming from a KWAMIZED LIAR.

 

Look run back to the peanut butter party at Kwame's house.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by KishanB:

Why dont the crooked PPP get Gerhard to join, all you all got to do is give him 2 german truck contract.

Why don't the crooks in the AFC produce INDEPENDENT audited financial statements according to their own constitution for the past several years ?

 

The AFC consists of a bunch of crooks, liar and conmen. They are a shameless bunch.

Ahole, the PPP does not produce "independent audited financial statements" either. 

Mars

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