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Some children of victims of Quebec mosque attack are so young they can barely comprehend the loss of a parent.

A young mourner lays her head on one of the caskets during funeral services for three of the victims of the deadly shooting at the Quebec Islamic Cultural Centre.
A young mourner lays her head on one of the caskets during funeral services for three of the victims of the deadly shooting at the Quebec Islamic Cultural Centre. (MATHIEU BELANGER / AFP/GETTY IMAGES)
By WENDY GILLISNews reporter
Sat., Feb. 4, 2017
QUEBEC—The school bus turned onto a snowy Ste-Foy cul-de-sac just after 3 p.m., coming to a stop in front of an apartment building.

Ali eyed its opening doors from the front lobby, where he was saying goodbye to a stream of visitors who had come to give their condolences.

“His girls are home,” he said.

Two days had passed since the children, 12 and 10, were told, with the help of a psychologist, that their father was dead. Abdelkrim Hassane, 41, was among six victims of a fatal shooting inside Quebec City’s largest mosque just a few minutes’ drive away. In the family’s apartment upstairs, Hassane’s widow was caring for their youngest daughter, a 15-month-old baby.

The girls are among 17 children who no longer have fathers — men who were killed where the families worship.

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On Wednesday, Hassane’s eldest girls went to school as the family’s support network, led by Ali — Hassane’s friend of 23 years, who asked to be identified by first name only — busily arranged the logistics of the coming days. Funeral in Montreal first. Burial in Hassane’s home country of Algeria after that.

Ilies Soufiane, 15-year-old son of victim Azzedine Soufiane, is consoled during a ceremony for three of the six victims of the Quebec City mosque shooting.
Ilies Soufiane, 15-year-old son of victim Azzedine Soufiane, is consoled during a ceremony for three of the six victims of the Quebec City mosque shooting. (PAUL CHIASSON)
His cellphone rang every other minute, his voice low and solemn. Dark circles around his eyes betrayed a sleepless night at the hospital Sunday, where he learned Hassane was killed moments after the men had waved goodbye to each other at the mosque, Ali leaving, Hassane lingering.

But as the girls stepped off the bus, clomping in big boots up to the door, frizzy curls poking out of their toques, he transformed.

“Girls, you’re home!” he called out to them excitedly, putting on a grin as he propped open the door and ushered them upstairs.

He knows he can only distract them from their grief for so long.

“When the apartment is empty, when no one is coming and going, that’s when they’ll feel the absence of their father,” he said.

The young ages of some of the victims’ children may ease, for now, the task of explaining the inexplicable — why their fathers are gone. But inside the Ibrahima Barry household, there has nonetheless been confusion for the littlest of his four children, his 2- and 3-year-old sons.

Hours after learning his older brother was among the dead, Thierno Barry flew from his home in New York to his brother’s Ste-Foy apartment, to be with Ibrahima’s wife and children. Since then, visitors have repeatedly commented on how much the brothers look alike — “It’s remarkable,” said one of Ibrahima’s co-workers to Thierno Barry Wednesday night.

But the boys, giggling as they played with strangers’ shoes down the hall, can’t tell the difference.

“They have been calling me dad,” Theirno Barry said.

Victims of the attack from top left, Ibrahima Barry, Azzedine Soufiane, Aboubaker Thabti, Abdelkrim Hassane, Mamadou Tanou Barry and Khaled Belkacemi.
Victims of the attack from top left, Ibrahima Barry, Azzedine Soufiane, Aboubaker Thabti, Abdelkrim Hassane, Mamadou Tanou Barry and Khaled Belkacemi.
Ibrahima’s two eldest, girls aged 13 and 6, have a better grasp of what’s happened. “We have tried to speak to them (as) diplomatically as possible,” he said.

It is not only the children of the dead who need comfort. Hours after her mosque was reopened following the attacks, blood stains still on the carpets and a bullet hole visible in the wall, Yasima Hadj-Sahraoui asked what she should tell her 13-year-old son and other kids from the mosque.

“Most of them were born here — they feel absolutely, totally Québécois. We have, every time, tried to teach them the good values of Islam, not to do bad things. What can we say to them?”

For now, Farhat Guemri has just been trying to listen. He was with his boys, 12 and 10, when shots rang out inside the mosque Sunday night. They hid together in an imam’s prayer room until the shooting stopped.

He tried to protect them, both during the attack and after — covering their ears from the screams and telling them to close their eyes to carnage around them.

“But then police took us and we walked through the room, and I couldn’t prevent it,” Guemri said.

Psychologists have been arranged for the boys at their school, and for now their well-being is Guemri’s sole focus. Asked how he is doing, he has no answer, having not yet stopped to consider it.

“I want to make sure that my kids are all right,” he says. “We’ll see about how I’m feeling after that.”

The day after the shooting, he tried to stop his boys from watching television. But inevitably, they saw accused gunman Alexandre Bissonnette’s face in the news. Guemri used it as an opportunity to talk.

“I asked my son what he would say if he could speak to this man,” Guemri said, his voice cracking.

“And he told me: ‘Dad, I would ask him why he hates Muslims.’ ”

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Has a father it breaks my heart to see the pain of the kids ... anger clouds my vision.

what must be going through the 15 year mind ... I am sure everyone will agree with me .. revenge !!! which we don't want and hope will never happen.

FM
Imran posted:

Has a father it breaks my heart to see the pain of the kids ... anger clouds my vision.

what must be going through the 15 year mind ... I am sure everyone will agree with me .. revenge !!! which we don't want and hope will never happen.

Revenge will not happen. These people are law abiding citizens. They appreciate the opportunity that Canada gave them. They are not "radical muslims".

FM

This problem of hate against Muslims must be addressed from a holistic point of view. What can the Muslims in their respective community do to ensure that people do not hate them to the point of carrying out these vicious attacks?  Do they need to keep a lower profile?  Can the Canadian Govt crack down on the hate mongers who use talk radio and other media to fuel the rage of such lone wolves? 

FM
Drugb posted:

This problem of hate against Muslims must be addressed from a holistic point of view. What can the Muslims in their respective community do to ensure that people do not hate them to the point of carrying out these vicious attacks?  Do they need to keep a lower profile?  Can the Canadian Govt crack down on the hate mongers who use talk radio and other media to fuel the rage of such lone wolves? 

I do agree that Muslims need to tune down their public activities. I am not in favor of all that public prayer that took place at the airport. Muslims don't generally pray at the airport and their doing so screams that they will do so regardless of how anyone else feel. That to me is becoming bombastic and at the very least, is inadvisable.

FM

Kaz

While I understand your sentiments, one cannot act scared either....folks respect strength, not weakness

My take is that Muslims should also be more outspoken and visible when you have so called Muslim terrorists killing innocent people...

FM
RiffRaff posted:

Kaz

While I understand your sentiments, one cannot act scared either....folks respect strength, not weakness

My take is that Muslims should also be more outspoken and visible when you have so called Muslim terrorists killing innocent people...

Absolutely Riff . 

FM
RiffRaff posted:

Kaz

While I understand your sentiments, one cannot act scared either....folks respect strength, not weakness

My take is that Muslims should also be more outspoken and visible when you have so called Muslim terrorists killing innocent people...

One of the greatest qualities of the Prophet was that he wasn't harsh to others. He always tried to accommodate others. It is said that he made things easy for his companions as long as it didn't constitute sinful negligence. There is a lot of anxiety amongst Americans as well as other Westerners over the goals of Muslims and the spectacle of public praying adds to that anxiety. It may be smart strategy to tone down that spectacle thereby allowing calm to enter the discussion. It is worth the try. 

FM

A day after the shooting, a muslim lawyer made the staement on TV, the shooting is a hate crime or an act of terrorism, then the Canadian government is liable to financially take care of the families their entire lives. According to the muslim expert, that is the law in Canada. Knowing Trudeau, he would love to be benevolent.

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seignet posted:

A day after the shooting, a muslim lawyer made the staement on TV, the shooting is a hate crime or an act of terrorism, then the Canadian government is liable to financially take care of the families their entire lives. According to the muslim expert, that is the law in Canada. Knowing Trudeau, he would love to be benevolent.

Seems like you have a problem with that. Perhaps you never heard of the 911 fund.

FM
Drugb posted:

This problem of hate against Muslims must be addressed from a holistic point of view. What can the Muslims in their respective community do to ensure that people do not hate them to the point of carrying out these vicious attacks?  Do they need to keep a lower profile?  Can the Canadian Govt crack down on the hate mongers who use talk radio and other media to fuel the rage of such lone wolves? 

The muslims in Britain set the precedent. They some how influenced the muslim clerics in America. And for a while there were lots of rhetoric against America by ME muslims in America.

The influence of British Muslims on the ME American muslims is evident as they appear on TV programs to explain why they became radicals. And have now changed.

There was a time when these ME muslims complained about everything christian, demand changes to well established norms they encountered when they arrived in the West.

The quiet majority were listening. It is not hate for muslims. Perhaps, they assumed that all white people are christians not realizing that christians have tolerance and lay every thing at the foot of the cross. Dey doan take an eye for an eyes, That is a ME concept.  

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Imran posted:

This is the problem with Muslim . They storm the city hall demanding their way . Their behaviour unfortunately reflects all Muslim . 

The decent respectable Muslim needs to speak out against these disgraceful attitude.

 

FM
seignet posted:

The muslims in Britain set the precedent. They some how influenced the muslim clerics in America. And for a while there were lots of rhetoric against America by ME muslims in America.

The influence of British Muslims on the ME American muslims is evident as they appear on TV programs to explain why they became radicals. And have now changed.

There was a time when these ME muslims complained about everything christian, demand changes to well established norms they encountered when they arrived in the West.

The quiet majority were listening. It is not hate for muslims. Perhaps, they assumed that all white people are christians not realizing that christians have tolerance and lay every thing at the foot of the cross. Dey doan take an eye for an eyes, That is a ME concept.  

Personally I feel that Muslims began getting a bad rap after the terrorists started using the religion as a rallying call against the West.  It started picking up steam after 911 when Americans had the perception that Muslims were happy that the WTC came down. Prior to 2001 there was hardly any association with Muslims and terrorism. 

FM
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Everyone knows how hard it is to get visas to go to these western countries. How come a muslim man who attack soldiers at the French museum last week with a machete got a visa to go to France as a visitor when other innocent people are being refused. It makes me wonder if it is a deliberate act so these fools can give them an excuse to justify their actions .

 

Prashad
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