Pregnant Corentyne woman jumps out window to escape bandits.

When the Police is ineffective,people must mobilize to protect their community,in our village we did it and was done under Burnham rule.

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

First, tell us what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions.

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

First, tell us what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions.

He is not a member of law enforcement.  That is the job of the Minister of Public Security!

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

How do you know that the people being executed were criminals? Don't they have a right to a fair trail? If someone did commit a crime, is the death penalty the appropriate sentence for the crime being committed?

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

First, tell us what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions.

He is not a member of law enforcement.  That is the job of the Minister of Public Security!

You are an idiot. I did not ask you the question shit head.

Mitwah posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

First, tell us what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions.

He is not a member of law enforcement.  That is the job of the Minister of Public Security!

You are an idiot. I did not ask you the question shit head.

Did the answer hit a raw nerve?  If the Minister of Public Security was doing his job, there would be no need for private citizens to get involved in counteracting home invasions.

Mars posted:

How do you know that the people being executed were criminals? Don't they have a right to a fair trail? If someone did commit a crime, is the death penalty the appropriate sentence for the crime being committed?

Did you not know that the Jagdeo administration was wiser and smarter than the Granger administration, Mars? By turning a blind eye to phantom gang executions of hundreds of "undesirable" characters, the PPP solved the problem of overcrowding Camp Street jail. And, from an economist's standpoint, less budgetary allocations for the prisons. Jagdeo was/is a practical politician. 

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

First, tell us what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions.

He is not a member of law enforcement.  That is the job of the Minister of Public Security!

You are an idiot. I did not ask you the question shit head.

Did the answer hit a raw nerve?  If the Minister of Public Security was doing his job, there would be no need for private citizens to get involved in counteracting home invasions.

You are an idiot. Do your read the shit you post? You are full of shit. My question was not directed you, miss shit head.

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

No !!!

"Phantoms" and "Community Policing Groups" aren't the same.

Mitwah posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

First, tell us what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions.

He is not a member of law enforcement.  That is the job of the Minister of Public Security!

You are an idiot. I did not ask you the question shit head.

Did the answer hit a raw nerve?  If the Minister of Public Security was doing his job, there would be no need for private citizens to get involved in counteracting home invasions.

You are an idiot. Do your read the shit you post? You are full of shit. My question was not directed you, miss shit head.

For all cases of mental breakdowns, home invasions, and otherwise complicated emergencies, one is advised to call 911.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

First, tell us what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions.

He is not a member of law enforcement.  That is the job of the Minister of Public Security!

With the assistance of Communities the bad boys can be ratted out.

Gilbakka posted:

Mars posted:

How do you know that the people being executed were criminals? Don't they have a right to a fair trail? If someone did commit a crime, is the death penalty the appropriate sentence for the crime being committed?

Did you not know that the Jagdeo administration was wiser and smarter than the Granger administration, Mars? By turning a blind eye to phantom gang executions of hundreds of "undesirable" characters, the PPP solved the problem of overcrowding Camp Street jail. And, from an economist's standpoint, less budgetary allocations for the prisons. Jagdeo was/is a practical politician. 

Less budget money for prisoners, more for sugar workers. That was PPP logic. Ex-PPP man Ramjattan, now APNU+AFC minister of prisons, learned that logic well. That's why recently he said the coalition doesn't have enough money to build new prisons because it has spent $$billions to bail out GuySuCo.

Guyana has a JACKASS as Public Security Minister!!!!!!!!

Mars posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

How do you know that the people being executed were criminals? Don't they have a right to a fair trail? If someone did commit a crime, is the death penalty the appropriate sentence for the crime being committed?

This was a clarification request, not a statement of where I stand on the issue. Please reread what I posted.

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

First, tell us what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions.

Mitts, my post was asking for a clarification instead of making a comment. Also, what does that have to do with whether or not  I am involved directly or indirectly in some way or any action to alleviate such situations happening. Furthermore. Law enforcement is the responsibility of the Minister of Public Security. What ever I do is does not absolve him of his responsibility for public security.

Zed posted:

Mars posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

How do you know that the people being executed were criminals? Don't they have a right to a fair trail? If someone did commit a crime, is the death penalty the appropriate sentence for the crime being committed?

This was a clarification request, not a statement of where I stand on the issue. Please reread what I posted.

You're asking a question which should have an obvious answer to anyone with an ounce of common sense which would allow them to distinguish between a death squad and a community policing group. 

Django posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

No !!!

"Phantoms" and "Community Policing Groups" aren't the same.

Thanks for your clarification that you were referring specifically to community policing groups.

Mars posted:

Zed posted:

Mars posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

How do you know that the people being executed were criminals? Don't they have a right to a fair trail? If someone did commit a crime, is the death penalty the appropriate sentence for the crime being committed?

This was a clarification request, not a statement of where I stand on the issue. Please reread what I posted.

You're asking a question which should have an obvious answer to anyone with an ounce of common sense which would allow them to distinguish between a death squad and a community policing group. 

What was so obvious? He stated that people must mobilize to protect their community. Community policing is one one such attempt by people. Others organizations are possible or they can be formal or informal.

i think that you are just trying to defend an incompetent  public safety ministry.

Zed posted:

Mars posted:

Zed posted:

Mars posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

How do you know that the people being executed were criminals? Don't they have a right to a fair trail? If someone did commit a crime, is the death penalty the appropriate sentence for the crime being committed?

This was a clarification request, not a statement of where I stand on the issue. Please reread what I posted.

You're asking a question which should have an obvious answer to anyone with an ounce of common sense which would allow them to distinguish between a death squad and a community policing group. 

What was so obvious? He stated that people must mobilize to protect their community. Community policing is one one such attempt by people. Others organizations are possible or they can be formal or informal.

i think that you are just trying to defend an incompetent  public safety ministry.

Where did I try to defend anyone? 

If you were to read the headline of this thread and tie it in with his next statement, it's quite obvious that he's talking about Community Policing Groups. But you need to use at least one percent of your brain power to recognize the obvious.

Zed posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

First, tell us what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions.

Mitts, my post was asking for a clarification instead of making a comment. Also, what does that have to do with whether or not  I am involved directly or indirectly in some way or any action to alleviate such situations happening. Furthermore. Law enforcement is the responsibility of the Minister of Public Security. What ever I do is does not absolve him of his responsibility for public security.

 

He cannot be in every home, every neighborhood or have prior knowledge of where a crime will be committed. You and others need to be more proactive in fighting back. Don't wait for Clint Eastwood to come into your villages to fight the criminals. That's your job with the help of Law enforcement. Take care of your neighborhood and don't run and hide under your beds when a crime is being committed. Stop passing the buck.

So, tell us,  what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions? My guess is nothing.

NEW  POLICY BY PNC SINCE 2015. iF A CRIMINAL IS AROUND DO NOT CALL POLICE, FORM A GROUP AND FIGHT THEM. lAAD aH mERCY!! aND i THOUGHT THE sTONE aGE WAS HISTORY.

Clearly the sop can crew are defending the inaction by police and putting the blame on the community and victims. 

Drugb posted:

Clearly the sop can crew are defending the inaction by police and putting the blame on the community and victims. 

Your hood is the worst in the entire North America.

Mars posted:

Zed posted:

Mars posted:

Zed posted:

Mars posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

How do you know that the people being executed were criminals? Don't they have a right to a fair trail? If someone did commit a crime, is the death penalty the appropriate sentence for the crime being committed?

This was a clarification request, not a statement of where I stand on the issue. Please reread what I posted.

You're asking a question which should have an obvious answer to anyone with an ounce of common sense which would allow them to distinguish between a death squad and a community policing group. 

What was so obvious? He stated that people must mobilize to protect their community. Community policing is one one such attempt by people. Others organizations are possible or they can be formal or informal.

i think that you are just trying to defend an incompetent  public safety ministry.

Where did I try to defend anyone? 

If you were to read the headline of this thread and tie it in with his next statement, it's quite obvious that he's talking about Community Policing Groups. But you need to use at least one percent of your brain power to recognize the obvious.

As soon as you start getting personal with your comments, I know that there is no validity to your argument. 

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

First, tell us what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions.

Mitts, my post was asking for a clarification instead of making a comment. Also, what does that have to do with whether or not  I am involved directly or indirectly in some way or any action to alleviate such situations happening. Furthermore. Law enforcement is the responsibility of the Minister of Public Security. What ever I do is does not absolve him of his responsibility for public security.

 

He cannot be in every home, every neighborhood or have prior knowledge of where a crime will be committed. You and others need to be more proactive in fighting back. Don't wait for Clint Eastwood to come into your villages to fight the criminals. That's your job with the help of Law enforcement. Take care of your neighborhood and don't run and hide under your beds when a crime is being committed. Stop passing the buck.

So, tell us,  what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions? My guess is nothing.

Maybe, you should ask yourself the same question. There you are not realizing that all political problems and issues  are personal ones, that many in Guyana really live in fear every day of their life in Guyana, that many believed that the coalition had all the answers to this problem, among so many others, and are now facing these threats. 

Many think that the police are part of the problem, not the solution. However, tgey Vado not have the resources to combat some of these criminals. The community policing groups are at best pap. They are under trained, undermanned and under resourced. 

I am not accountable to you for what I do. Sit in the comfort and safety of your home, read your religious books and play politics here.

Stop passing the buck. That phrase applies to the man at the TOP, who is Rumjaat. When you cant do your job, you pass the buck. Crime is a given norm in Guyana and is getting worst.

Zed posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Does the same argument hold for the previous government allegedly using the "Phantoms" to get rid of the criminals who ran rampant in Guyana with the police and army unable or unwilling to act decisively to stop that rampage?

First, tell us what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions.

Mitts, my post was asking for a clarification instead of making a comment. Also, what does that have to do with whether or not  I am involved directly or indirectly in some way or any action to alleviate such situations happening. Furthermore. Law enforcement is the responsibility of the Minister of Public Security. What ever I do is does not absolve him of his responsibility for public security.

 

He cannot be in every home, every neighborhood or have prior knowledge of where a crime will be committed. You and others need to be more proactive in fighting back. Don't wait for Clint Eastwood to come into your villages to fight the criminals. That's your job with the help of Law enforcement. Take care of your neighborhood and don't run and hide under your beds when a crime is being committed. Stop passing the buck.

So, tell us,  what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions? My guess is nothing.

Maybe, you should ask yourself the same question. There you are not realizing that all political problems and issues  are personal ones, that many in Guyana really live in fear every day of their life in Guyana, that many believed that the coalition had all the answers to this problem, among so many others, and are now facing these threats. 

Many think that the police are part of the problem, not the solution. However, tgey Vado not have the resources to combat some of these criminals. The community policing groups are at best pap. They are under trained, undermanned and under resourced. 

I am not accountable to you for what I do. Sit in the comfort and safety of your home, read your religious books and play politics here.

Mr. Zed your own words. "As soon as you start getting personal with your comments, I know that there is no validity to your argument."

Crime is down, corruption is still rampant

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 Mr. Zed, you still have not told us , what are you doing in your community to counteract these home invasions?