Mr.T posted:

The only country that I can find is Bangladesh. So what is the purpose of its introduction in Guyana?

So your PNC boys can steal more. Why ask?

skeldon_man posted:

Mr.T posted:

The only country that I can find is Bangladesh. So what is the purpose of its introduction in Guyana?

So your PNC boys can steal more. Why ask?

I don't know where you get the idea from that I am PNC, but if you lived close by I would beat you to death with pleasure for saying that.

Mr.T posted:

skeldon_man posted:

Mr.T posted:

The only country that I can find is Bangladesh. So what is the purpose of its introduction in Guyana?

So your PNC boys can steal more. Why ask?

I don't know where you get the idea from that I am PNC, but if you lived close by I would beat you to death with pleasure for saying that.

I don't doubt that you are a criminal. You get pleasure for doing other things that most people don't.

Well I was married into the Chinese mafia once.

I  cannot think of any other country that has a vat on education. Anti-koolie have no brain.

Greece is another country with VAT on education.

Look what the cat dragged in, this jackass t now like he wake up from his slumber. 

The one thing that Burnham had going for him was a good education system.  Granger is on track to become Guyana's worst President.  The biggest difference between these two dictators is that one was sane!

Most of Guyana's scholars and workforce comes out of the public school system, not private.  If the Govt impose VAT of private schooling, it surely should be at a reduced rate as education is a basic right.  Furthermore, the revenues derived from this source should be ring-fenced and used to improve the quality of rural public education.

I am not shedding too many tears over the fact that the top 1% are asked to pay some taxes.  Again however, it should not be at 14%, this is not fair!

Bibi Haniffa posted:

The one thing that Burnham had going for him was a good education system.  Granger is on track to become Guyana's worst President.  The biggest difference between these two dictators is that one was sane!

So exactly what are you saying here?  Has there been a proliferation of private education?

Base,

This is an unfair tax regardless if it is one percent or fourteen percent.

As Bibi Indicated, Burnham had a good education going and it was free and there was no tax on education. 

Granger and the PNC must be condemned this tax. 

yuji22 posted:

Base,

This is an unfair tax regardless if it is one percent or fourteen percent.

As Bibi Indicated, Burnham had a good education going and it was free and there was no tax on education. 

Granger and the PNC must be condemned this tax. 

I don't think were talking here of tax on public education!  Tax collection in Guyana is porous and tax evasion rife so the Govt is finding ways to capture these at the consumption side.  You argument is no different than saying progressive rates are unfair!

Baseman, first, where did you get the top 1 percents figure regarding those sending their children to private school. Second, private education has blossomed in Guyana because the effectiveness of the public system has been very low. Look at the scores for the grade 6 and CXC math and English examinations. Third, many poorer parents are sending their kids to private schools, making sacrifice because they know the value of a sound education. Fourth, the policy of applying VAT to private education is a poor policy choice, something which the minister of education seems to agree with. Fifth, one of the reasons given is that many of the schools are not tax compliant. Why pressure the parents when it is the owners that are not in conformity? Is  the government move move motivated more by ideology than by revenue collection?

Zed posted:

Baseman, first, where did you get the top 1 percents figure regarding those sending their children to private school. Second, private education has blossomed in Guyana because the effectiveness of the public system has been very low. Look at the scores for the grade 6 and CXC math and English examinations. Third, many poorer parents are sending their kids to private schools, making sacrifice because they know the value of a sound education. Fourth, the policy of applying VAT to private education is a poor policy choice, something which the minister of education seems to agree with. Fifth, one of the reasons given is that many of the schools are not tax compliant. Why pressure the parents when it is the owners that are not in conformity? Is  the government move move motivated more by ideology than by revenue collection?

So are you saying Burnham's great public education system fell apart under the PPP giving rise to this blossoming of private schools?  Something don't add up here.  The PPP rebuilt, upgraded and expanded lots of public schools.  Guyana's population has remained static.  The public schools are full and running over.  From where did this big supply pipeline for private school students materialize?  This just don't add up!

Base you hittin hard banna, good observation.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

The one thing that Burnham had going for him was a good education system.  Granger is on track to become Guyana's worst President.  The biggest difference between these two dictators is that one was sane!

That anti-koolie jranger is making Ramotar look like starboy Dave Anand.

ba$eman posted:

Zed posted:

Baseman, first, where did you get the top 1 percents figure regarding those sending their children to private school. Second, private education has blossomed in Guyana because the effectiveness of the public system has been very low. Look at the scores for the grade 6 and CXC math and English examinations. Third, many poorer parents are sending their kids to private schools, making sacrifice because they know the value of a sound education. Fourth, the policy of applying VAT to private education is a poor policy choice, something which the minister of education seems to agree with. Fifth, one of the reasons given is that many of the schools are not tax compliant. Why pressure the parents when it is the owners that are not in conformity? Is  the government move move motivated more by ideology than by revenue collection?

So are you saying Burnham's great public education system fell apart under the PPP giving rise to this blossoming of private schools?  Something don't add up here.  The PPP rebuilt, upgraded and expanded lots of public schools.  Guyana's population has remained static.  The public schools are full and running over.  From where did this big supply pipeline for private school students materialize?  This just don't add up!

Where did I concede that burnham had a great public education system?  

Yes, the PPP government has certainly increased education funding to then unprecedented levels, but the effectiveness of the education system to add value had not been high, when we take into account a lag factor. In all fairness to the PPP, achievements  levels increased. There are systemic reasons for the low achievement levels.

I have tried to get info on how many or what proportion of the grade 6 students who write the exams were from private schools, but has been unable to do so. Maybe Django who is adept at retrieving such info can find it.

Zed posted:

I have tried to get info on how many or what proportion of the grade 6 students who write the exams were from private schools, but has been unable to do so. Maybe Django who is adept at retrieving such info can find it.

Two-thirds of top Grade Six students from private schools

-Success Elementary has highest number

Zed,

Here you go,hope this helps.

Did all you folks including Base and Bibi drink any PnC Kool aid?  Burnham did not have a good education system. The difference today is that kids are more belligerent and teachers have more options to migrate.  The funding to the schools was a pittance in Burnham times.  No advanced equipment nor suppmental learning programs, special ed etc existed under Burnham.  

DJango, thanks. I was looking at the percentage of students in the public and private systems.

Drugb posted:

Did all you folks including Base and Bibi drink any PnC Kool aid?  Burnham did not have a good education system. The difference today is that kids are more belligerent and teachers have more options to migrate.  The funding to the schools was a pittance in Burnham times.  No advanced equipment nor suppmental learning programs, special ed etc existed under Burnham.  

You must take the time to understand what baseman saying.  Bibi is the one who said that, then added the Granger destroying the system with his VAT on education.  I merely exposed the inconsistencies by invoking "if-then" as none add up!

I agree with you that education deteriorated under Burnham but he focused on a few which were PNC strongholds.