Whites want to secede from White America

By Askia Muhammad -Senior Correspondent- | Last updated: Nov 13, 2012 - 10:54:24 AM

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WASHINGTON (FinalCall.com) - Even as Caribbean nations Jamaica and Barbados have expanded their countries’ investigations into the legitimate claims for reparations due to the African descendants of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, on

Nov. 7 in the United States, the day after President Barack Obama was re-elected, the White House’s website received a petition asking the administration to allow Louisiana to secede from the Union. It was the first of several to follow.

Another citizen-authored petition was quickly filed by Texas, and similar petitions from 18 other states began arriving Nov. 9, bringing the early total to 20. Most, but not all were from states which participated in the 19th Century treasonous, secession in which 11 Confederate States of America fought the bloodiest war in U.S. history in a futile attempt to maintain chattel slavery.

In addition to Louisiana and Texas, petitions have been submitted since the 2012 elections from Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon, New York, Arkansas, Michigan, and Tennessee. Three states—Georgia, Missouri and South Carolina are each represented by two competing petitions, according to reports by Examiner.com, and The Daily Caller.

The government allows one month from the day the petitions were submitted to obtain 25,000 signatures in order for the Obama administration to consider the request.

If 25,000 people sign the various petition on time, it will “require a response” from the Obama administration, according to published rules of the White House’s online “We the People” program. The Louisiana petition collected more than 12,300 signatures in four days. The Texas had 15,400 supporters by Nov. 11.

The “Three-Fifths Compromise” was an agreement between Southern and Northern states reached during the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention of 1787 in which three-fifi fths of the enumerated population of slaves in slave-holding states would be counted for representation regarding both the distribution of taxes and the apportionment of the members of the House of Representatives.

The Texas petition reads in part: “The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc.

“Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect its citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.”

The Louisiana petition consisted of excerpts from the Declaration of Independence. “Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,” one portion read, “that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government.”

These various petitions come from disgruntled White voters in response to the re-election of President Obama, the first Black U.S. president, but they ignore a number of realities. The Constitutional “job description”—as it were—of the president’s duties or powers has not been rewritten since the 22nd Amendment was ratified on Feb. 27, 1951 almost four years after it was proposed in March 1947.

“No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once,” that amendment says in part. Otherwise, the duties and power of President Obama are officially the same as those of his 43 White predecessors, including many of whom were actually slave owners.

Ironically the most glaring missing component from these efforts to withdraw from what has been “White America” since the Constitution was officially ratified on June 21, 1788, into new even whiter secessionist enclaves, is the plight and just demands of the descendants of the Black slaves who were written into the Constitution as less than human.

The “Three-Fifths Compromise” was an agreement between Southern and Northern states reached during the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention of 1787 in which three-fifths of the enumerated population of slaves in slave-holding states would be counted for representation regarding both the distribution of taxes and the apportionment of the members of the House of Representatives.

The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and chattel slavery, should more appropriately be called “the Holocaust of Enslavement” and together they constitute “a crime against humanity” according to the National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America—N’COBRA. Founded in September 1987, N’COBRA is a national organization which seeks financial compensation for the descendants of former slaves in the United States.

Each year since N’COBRA’s founding Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), former Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee has introduced H.R.-40—as in “40 acres and a mule”—legislation concerning reparations.

His resolution would require the federal government: “To acknowledge the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery in the United States and the 13 American colonies between 1619 and 1865 and to establish a commission to examine the institution of slavery, subsequently de jure and de facto racial and economic discrimination against African-Americans, and the impact of these forces on living African-Americans, to make recommendations to the Congress on appropriate remedies, and for other purposes.”

The justification for such a measure is clear, according to N’COBRA. “Millions of Africans were brutalized, murdered, raped and tortured. They were torn from their families in Africa, kidnapped and lost family and community associations. African peoples in the United States and the prior colonies were denied the right to maintain their language, spiritual practices and normal family relations, always under the threat of being torn from newly-created families at the whim of the ‘slave owner.’

“Chattel slavery … was followed by 100 years of government-led and supported denial of equal and humane treatment including Black Codes, convict lease, sharecropping, peonage, and Jim Crow practices of separate and unequal accommodations. African descendants continue to be denied rights of self-determination, inheritance, and full participation in the United States government and society.

“The laws and practices in the United States continue to treat African peoples in a manner similar to slavery—maintaining dual systems in virtually every area of life including punishment, health care, education and wealth, maintaining the myths of White superiority and African and African descendants’ inferiority,” the organization states on its website at N’COBRA.org.

But the longest standing, and arguably most deserving Black claim for a separate jurisdiction outside the United States authority for people now living in this country was made in 1959 by the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, when he authored “What The Muslims Want: What the Muslims Believe,” a declaration of the official program of the Nation of Islam in North America.

“We want our people in America whose parents or grandparents were descendants from slaves, to be allowed to establish a separate state or territory of their own--either on this continent or elsewhere,” reads point No. 4 of the Muslim Program.

“We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to provide such land and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to maintain and supply our needs in this separate territory for the next 20 to 25 years—until we are able to produce and supply our own needs.

“Since we cannot get along with them in peace and equality, after giving them 400 years of our sweat and blood and receiving in return some of the worst treatment human beings have ever experienced, we believe our contributions to this land and the suffering forced upon us by white America, justifies our demand for complete separation in a state or territory of our own.”

Secession petitions now filed for all 50 states

President Barack Obama delivers his victory speech in Chicago on Nov. 6, 2012. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty)

Petitions signed by hundreds of thousands of Americans seeking permission for their states to peacefully secede from the union have now been filed for all 50 states on the White House website.

The secession petition push began last week on the site's We The People section after a Slidell, La., man filed a petition on Nov. 7 to allow Louisiana to secede. Residents from other states followed suit.

As of Wednesday afternoon, North Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana and Texas—all states that voted for former Gov. Mitt Romney—as well as Florida each had accumulated more than 25,000 signatures, the threshold needed to trigger an official response from the Obama administration. Collectively, the secession petitions now have more than 700,000 digital signatures.

Texas is in the lead with more than 99,000, but Gov. Rick Perry said on Tuesday that he does not support secession.

"Gov. Perry believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it," astatement from the governor's office read. "But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government."

Meanwhile, residents of Austin, Texas' stubbornly liberal stronghold, have petitioned the White House to allow the city to "withdraw from the state of Texas [and] remain part of the United States."

Of course, the petitions are little more than symbolic—and nothing new. Similar petitions were filed after the 2004 and 2008 elections. And at least one petition filed on the site asks that the president sign an executive order to strip U.S. citizenship from anyone who signed a petition to secede and requests that they are "peacefully deported."

Secession, though, is not the only thing people are petitioning the White House for. Included among the 140 petitions currently displayed on the site: two seeking federal legalization of marijuana, one asking for the halt of U.S. drone strikes and one demanding a recount of the election.

Lucas Obama won 39% of the white votes.  The GOP leadership isnt mounting any attempts to back succession.

So why are you pretending as if this represents anythi9ng other than a lunatic fringe?

The notion that whites have lost power is lunancy.  We have a half white president and almost every one surrounding him is a white male.  And just about every normal white person is fully aware of this.

Do you know that Obama is viewed as the most likeable president in many years.  Yes many do not necessarily view his handling of the economy as competent, but to say they hate him is ridiculous.

Texas should have Secede 100 years ago' GOOD RIDDANCE!!!

WHERE IS REV AL WHEN WE NEED HIM?

Rev Bhai is busy recalculating his numbers. We do need him back. Rev Bhai, please return.

Rev: Please reset your numbers to zero until the next election. Come on down! The election is history. Look at fools like  Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Sheldon Adelson, Karl Rove, nad FOX news crew. They are still showing up here and there.

You were a good sport.

The Republican Party will turn into a White Army and will start expelling non-whites from America so that again they will be able to win elections.

He got lynched when he showed up at one of those secession events.  The Good Old Boys said the new Confederate States of America had no place for folks like him.

They thought he was a spy from the Obama camp.

You are having orgasms at that prospect.

Sorry you will be disappointed.

Face it lucas its better to be a black mna in the USA than in most other countries where we are a minority.......EVEN GUYANA!  And definitely in places like Brazil, Colombia, Venezuela and Cuba.

What the ....

When TEXAS seceded it was a Latino country. Now 150 years after is all White-American Male.

Carib,

They would lynch with his own rope that he was sporting on this forum if he dares to go to places like Arkansas & Mississippi.

It's natural for some people to get paranoid about a takeover by another racial group. It's not going to be that way, however, they are people out there who cannot be convinced otherwise.

It happened to people on the North Of Mexico (From New Mexico to California and Oregon) when they were taken over by the anglos, that they lost any privilege.The same happened in other originally Latino regions like Florida and Puerto Rico.

Lucas pity youy do not know history.

Texas seceded from Mexico because the TEJANOS, and the Anglo immigrants were tired of high handed rule from Mexico City.

What happened was that the Anglos, to justofy their racism towards the Tejanos, and as part of a power grab, have refused to acknowledge the role playe dby Tejanos in the war against Mexco City.

Florida was an empty place when it was annexed by the USA.

The Puerto Ricans have had ample opportunity to vote for independence.  Over 90% of them refuse to and in fact the most recent referendum has the now wanting to become the 51st state.  They see the poverty of the Dom Rep and they want no part of it.

Carib ignores the fact that under the policy of containment of Latin America, the USA enforced a caste system in which the white elites were favored over the mixed races. During the 50s, 60s and 70s the USA installed military dictatorships as part of its policy for the region to achieve this modern cast system, Apartheid Latin American Style.

Again you dont know your history.  When the USA propped up those dictators the Latin American system of colorism and blatant racism towards the most African/Amerindian had been in force since Spain settled these countries in 1492.....LONG BEFORE THE USA was even conceived of.