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Very interesting topic: If I try to look into future on this subject all I can see is plenty plenty crabs.
This is the kind of crappy reasoning one gets from people who are trained to obfuscate or people who only do qualitative analyses. Who will put some data on this? Who will compare the numbers since 1964?
Nehru and Cobra are doing a fine job fighting for Indians Rights.
Really thought the Nagamootoo and Ramjhattan were fixed in that area: But now is seems that they cannot even fight for themselves.
Really thought the Nagamootoo and Ramjhattan were fixed in that area: But now is seems that they cannot even fight for themselves.
Good observation. kakamootoo #2 and Rumjattan #3 are looking out for themselves. Big fat salaries will muzzled them completed.
This is the kind of crappy reasoning one gets from people who are trained to obfuscate or people who only do qualitative analyses. Who will put some data on this? Who will compare the numbers since 1964?
I am unsure the quantative data is available for a definitive statement.
This is the kind of crappy reasoning one gets from people who are trained to obfuscate or people who only do qualitative analyses. Who will put some data on this? Who will compare the numbers since 1964?
I am unsure the quantative data is available for a definitive statement.
That's what you think.
This is the kind of crappy reasoning one gets from people who are trained to obfuscate or people who only do qualitative analyses. Who will put some data on this? Who will compare the numbers since 1964?
I am unsure the quantative data is available for a definitive statement.
You just have to know where to look.
the same ole same ole dressed up 'Emancipation' drag from Sultan Mohamed
dese bais can't seem to get enough of David Hinds . . . if the man didn't exist, not sure who they would have found with 'nationalist' views they could distort to such ignoble purpose
yaaaawwwn
the same ole same ole dressed up 'Emancipation' drag from Sultan Mohamed
dese bais can't seem to get enough of David Hinds . . . if the man didn't exist, not sure who they would have found with 'nationalist' views they could distort to such ignoble purpose
yaaaawwwn
You foolish. You miss the point...the author is not criticizing Hinds for his points about the African concerns.
Whether the data is there or not, or even if its difficult to put together, we have to acknowledge that we have a racial problem. If Kissoon can put together a research paper, as he claims to show Jagdeo is racist, then we certainly can start with whatever biased data he has, and add to that.
Its not a bad idea to take the bull by the horn and have political parties work out some kind of arrangement to avoid the perception that one group is being sidelined. So, Sultan has a point. David Hinds is bold enough to state the African concerns, others should be bold to state the Indian and Amerindian concerns. The Amerindians have their spokesperson. Who represents the Indian views...certainly not the PPP, which has claimed that it is a non-racial working class party.
the same ole same ole dressed up 'Emancipation' drag from Sultan Mohamed
dese bais can't seem to get enough of David Hinds . . . if the man didn't exist, not sure who they would have found with 'nationalist' views they could distort to such ignoble purpose
yaaaawwwn
You foolish. You miss the point...the author is not criticizing Hinds for his points about the African concerns.
Whether the data is there or not, or even if its difficult to put together, we have to acknowledge that we have a racial problem. If Kissoon can put together a research paper, as he claims to show Jagdeo is racist, then we certainly can start with whatever biased data he has, and add to that.
Its not a bad idea to take the bull by the horn and have political parties work out some kind of arrangement to avoid the perception that one group is being sidelined. So, Sultan has a point. David Hinds is bold enough to state the African concerns, others should be bold to state the Indian and Amerindian concerns. The Amerindians have their spokesperson. Who represents the Indian views...certainly not the PPP, which has claimed that it is a non-racial working class party.
i guess the IAC crowd doan exist and didn't exist these past 15 years . . . Ravi Dev dem doan exist either . . . Guyana Times and the Chronicle (until recently) doan exist/never existed either
further, there is no shortage of sources on the web articulating the Guyana "Indian condition" [GNI itself is a resource!] . . . a shitload of books written on the subject can be accessed with the click of a mouse
indeed, Black folk have no real equivalent on this scale to compare . . . the ball started rolling during the Burnham dictatorship
y'all antiman getting stale with the fantasy bleating and mortification whining
g'wan dahside with yuh slimy, anti-knowledge, disinformation campaign
the same ole same ole dressed up 'Emancipation' drag from Sultan Mohamed
dese bais can't seem to get enough of David Hinds . . . if the man didn't exist, not sure who they would have found with 'nationalist' views they could distort to such ignoble purpose
yaaaawwwn
You foolish. You miss the point...the author is not criticizing Hinds for his points about the African concerns.
Whether the data is there or not, or even if its difficult to put together, we have to acknowledge that we have a racial problem. If Kissoon can put together a research paper, as he claims to show Jagdeo is racist, then we certainly can start with whatever biased data he has, and add to that.
Its not a bad idea to take the bull by the horn and have political parties work out some kind of arrangement to avoid the perception that one group is being sidelined. So, Sultan has a point. David Hinds is bold enough to state the African concerns, others should be bold to state the Indian and Amerindian concerns. The Amerindians have their spokesperson. Who represents the Indian views...certainly not the PPP, which has claimed that it is a non-racial working class party.
Such utter nonsense. There is a whole [plethora of Indian rights advocates in Guyana. So much so that they have successfully distorted Guyanese history to push the notion of the "baad black man. goody Indian".
The early 60s was a civil war between Africans and Indians where both attacked, and both suffered. But according to the Indian rights advocates it was about savage blacks killing innocent Indians.
While the PNC under Burnham did pursue a racially exclusive agenda aimed at patronage for its supporters (rendering them dependent and unable to develop their own independent means of survival) and exclusive governance by an African elite.
The PPP did similar. they pursued an agenda of apan jhat in the 60s, and sought to squeeze out the African. After 1992 they behaved exactly the same as the PNC. Only difference being that an Indo elite attained fulldomination, and the limited their patronage to the Indo business elite.
Give David Hinds his jackat. He was very vocal about the damage that the PNC was doing to the African psyche. He was also very vocal about their racist exclusion of Indians. For this the African dictatorship tortured him, abd almost killed him, and drove him into exile.
David Hinds saw the PPP behave in exactly the same racist way as the PNC under Burnham, and he became vocal. For this he is a racist, even though the whole thrust of Cuffy 250 is for Afro Guyanese to develop agency in their lives and work to resolve the problems that this community faces. And he manages to do this without demonizing ordinary Indians.
But thanks to the many who speak to the rights of Indians, we have this very distorted narrative, which plays to the worse stereotypes of Africans. And then when blacks are David Hinds, Eric Phillips, and Nigel Hughes speak to the issue of Afro Guyanese, they are demonised as racists.
the same ole same ole dressed up 'Emancipation' drag from Sultan Mohamed
dese bais can't seem to get enough of David Hinds . . . if the man didn't exist, not sure who they would have found with 'nationalist' views they could distort to such ignoble purpose
yaaaawwwn
You foolish. You miss the point...the author is not criticizing Hinds for his points about the African concerns.
Whether the data is there or not, or even if its difficult to put together, we have to acknowledge that we have a racial problem. If Kissoon can put together a research paper, as he claims to show Jagdeo is racist, then we certainly can start with whatever biased data he has, and add to that.
Its not a bad idea to take the bull by the horn and have political parties work out some kind of arrangement to avoid the perception that one group is being sidelined. So, Sultan has a point. David Hinds is bold enough to state the African concerns, others should be bold to state the Indian and Amerindian concerns. The Amerindians have their spokesperson. Who represents the Indian views...certainly not the PPP, which has claimed that it is a non-racial working class party.
Such utter nonsense. There is a whole [plethora of Indian rights advocates in Guyana. So much so that they have successfully distorted Guyanese history to push the notion of the "baad black man. goody Indian".
The early 60s was a civil war between Africans and Indians where both attacked, and both suffered. But according to the Indian rights advocates it was about savage blacks killing innocent Indians.
While the PNC under Burnham did pursue a racially exclusive agenda aimed at patronage for its supporters (rendering them dependent and unable to develop their own independent means of survival) and exclusive governance by an African elite.
The PPP did similar. they pursued an agenda of apan jhat in the 60s, and sought to squeeze out the African. After 1992 they behaved exactly the same as the PNC. Only difference being that an Indo elite attained fulldomination, and the limited their patronage to the Indo business elite.
Give David Hinds his jackat. He was very vocal about the damage that the PNC was doing to the African psyche. He was also very vocal about their racist exclusion of Indians. For this the African dictatorship tortured him, abd almost killed him, and drove him into exile.
David Hinds saw the PPP behave in exactly the same racist way as the PNC under Burnham, and he became vocal. For this he is a racist, even though the whole thrust of Cuffy 250 is for Afro Guyanese to develop agency in their lives and work to resolve the problems that this community faces. And he manages to do this without demonizing ordinary Indians.
But thanks to the many who speak to the rights of Indians, we have this very distorted narrative, which plays to the worse stereotypes of Africans. And then when blacks are David Hinds, Eric Phillips, and Nigel Hughes speak to the issue of Afro Guyanese, they are demonised as racists.
Burnham practiced 'Apan Jhaat' from 1964 to 1985. Granger started it again in 2015. Blacks always practiced apan Jhaat all over the world in every country.
the same ole same ole dressed up 'Emancipation' drag from Sultan Mohamed
dese bais can't seem to get enough of David Hinds . . . if the man didn't exist, not sure who they would have found with 'nationalist' views they could distort to such ignoble purpose
yaaaawwwn
You foolish. You miss the point...the author is not criticizing Hinds for his points about the African concerns.
Whether the data is there or not, or even if its difficult to put together, we have to acknowledge that we have a racial problem. If Kissoon can put together a research paper, as he claims to show Jagdeo is racist, then we certainly can start with whatever biased data he has, and add to that.
Its not a bad idea to take the bull by the horn and have political parties work out some kind of arrangement to avoid the perception that one group is being sidelined. So, Sultan has a point. David Hinds is bold enough to state the African concerns, others should be bold to state the Indian and Amerindian concerns. The Amerindians have their spokesperson. Who represents the Indian views...certainly not the PPP, which has claimed that it is a non-racial working class party.
Such utter nonsense. There is a whole [plethora of Indian rights advocates in Guyana. So much so that they have successfully distorted Guyanese history to push the notion of the "baad black man. goody Indian".
The early 60s was a civil war between Africans and Indians where both attacked, and both suffered. But according to the Indian rights advocates it was about savage blacks killing innocent Indians.
While the PNC under Burnham did pursue a racially exclusive agenda aimed at patronage for its supporters (rendering them dependent and unable to develop their own independent means of survival) and exclusive governance by an African elite.
The PPP did similar. they pursued an agenda of apan jhat in the 60s, and sought to squeeze out the African. After 1992 they behaved exactly the same as the PNC. Only difference being that an Indo elite attained fulldomination, and the limited their patronage to the Indo business elite.
Give David Hinds his jackat. He was very vocal about the damage that the PNC was doing to the African psyche. He was also very vocal about their racist exclusion of Indians. For this the African dictatorship tortured him, abd almost killed him, and drove him into exile.
David Hinds saw the PPP behave in exactly the same racist way as the PNC under Burnham, and he became vocal. For this he is a racist, even though the whole thrust of Cuffy 250 is for Afro Guyanese to develop agency in their lives and work to resolve the problems that this community faces. And he manages to do this without demonizing ordinary Indians.
But thanks to the many who speak to the rights of Indians, we have this very distorted narrative, which plays to the worse stereotypes of Africans. And then when blacks are David Hinds, Eric Phillips, and Nigel Hughes speak to the issue of Afro Guyanese, they are demonised as racists.
Here you go with your racist foolishness again. I dont consider Hinds, ACDA, Kwayana, etc racist, you knucklehead. The question being posed here is who speaks for Indian rights? Certainly not the PPP. And of course, when the Indians speak out, he is readily branded as a racist by the likes of you. Thats my point. And dont tell me Moses and Ramjattan are the protectors of Indians.
David Hinds used to post on GNI. I wonder if he still does.
. . . I dont consider Hinds, ACDA, Kwayana, etc racist, you knucklehead. The question being posed here is who speaks for Indian rights? Certainly not the PPP. And of course, when the Indians speak out, he is readily branded as a racist by the likes of you. Thats my point. And dont tell me Moses and Ramjattan are the protectors of Indians.
90% of Indians on this board consider David Hinds a "racist" . . . they can't properly explain why, but they do
what's your stupid point again?
the same ole same ole dressed up 'Emancipation' drag from Sultan Mohamed
dese bais can't seem to get enough of David Hinds . . . if the man didn't exist, not sure who they would have found with 'nationalist' views they could distort to such ignoble purpose
yaaaawwwn
You foolish. You miss the point...the author is not criticizing Hinds for his points about the African concerns.
Whether the data is there or not, or even if its difficult to put together, we have to acknowledge that we have a racial problem. If Kissoon can put together a research paper, as he claims to show Jagdeo is racist, then we certainly can start with whatever biased data he has, and add to that.
Its not a bad idea to take the bull by the horn and have political parties work out some kind of arrangement to avoid the perception that one group is being sidelined. So, Sultan has a point. David Hinds is bold enough to state the African concerns, others should be bold to state the Indian and Amerindian concerns. The Amerindians have their spokesperson. Who represents the Indian views...certainly not the PPP, which has claimed that it is a non-racial working class party.
Such utter nonsense. There is a whole [plethora of Indian rights advocates in Guyana. So much so that they have successfully distorted Guyanese history to push the notion of the "baad black man. goody Indian".
The early 60s was a civil war between Africans and Indians where both attacked, and both suffered. But according to the Indian rights advocates it was about savage blacks killing innocent Indians.
While the PNC under Burnham did pursue a racially exclusive agenda aimed at patronage for its supporters (rendering them dependent and unable to develop their own independent means of survival) and exclusive governance by an African elite.
The PPP did similar. they pursued an agenda of apan jhat in the 60s, and sought to squeeze out the African. After 1992 they behaved exactly the same as the PNC. Only difference being that an Indo elite attained fulldomination, and the limited their patronage to the Indo business elite.
Give David Hinds his jackat. He was very vocal about the damage that the PNC was doing to the African psyche. He was also very vocal about their racist exclusion of Indians. For this the African dictatorship tortured him, abd almost killed him, and drove him into exile.
David Hinds saw the PPP behave in exactly the same racist way as the PNC under Burnham, and he became vocal. For this he is a racist, even though the whole thrust of Cuffy 250 is for Afro Guyanese to develop agency in their lives and work to resolve the problems that this community faces. And he manages to do this without demonizing ordinary Indians.
But thanks to the many who speak to the rights of Indians, we have this very distorted narrative, which plays to the worse stereotypes of Africans. And then when blacks are David Hinds, Eric Phillips, and Nigel Hughes speak to the issue of Afro Guyanese, they are demonised as racists.
Burnham practiced 'Apan Jhaat' from 1964 to 1985. Granger started it again in 2015. Blacks always practiced apan Jhaat all over the world in every country.
Some body need to start apan jhaat on your collie rass
. . . I dont consider Hinds, ACDA, Kwayana, etc racist, you knucklehead. The question being posed here is who speaks for Indian rights? Certainly not the PPP. And of course, when the Indians speak out, he is readily branded as a racist by the likes of you. Thats my point. And dont tell me Moses and Ramjattan are the protectors of Indians.
90% of Indians on this board consider David Hinds a "racist" . . . they can't properly explain why, but they do
what's your stupid point again?
Lookie here Forrest Gump...you got part of what I said correct. I dont consider Hinds a racist, or anyone who supports the upliftment of their people. The question raised in the letter is "who speaks for Indians"? Did you read it or are you too busy defending your racist positions? In addition, David Hinds should also recognize that Indians have rights too (I suspect he does), but to avoid further antagonisms, both parties or both sides advocating for their people must have meaningful discussions and come up with solutions to the problem.
And dont frigging tell me the coalition has addressed the race problem.
. . . I dont consider Hinds, ACDA, Kwayana, etc racist, you knucklehead. The question being posed here is who speaks for Indian rights? Certainly not the PPP. And of course, when the Indians speak out, he is readily branded as a racist by the likes of you. Thats my point. And dont tell me Moses and Ramjattan are the protectors of Indians.
90% of Indians on this board consider David Hinds a "racist" . . . they can't properly explain why, but they do
what's your stupid point again?
Lookie here Forrest Gump...you got part of what I said correct. I dont consider Hinds a racist, or anyone who supports the upliftment of their people. The question raised in the letter is "who speaks for Indians"? Did you read it or are you too busy defending your racist positions? In addition, David Hinds should also recognize that Indians have rights too (I suspect he does), but to avoid further antagonisms, both parties or both sides advocating for their people must have meaningful discussions and come up with solutions to the problem.
And dont frigging tell me the coalition has addressed the race problem.
what exactly are my "racist" positions? . . . enlighten abee nah, u cornered, confused antiman
David Hinds used to post on GNI. I wonder if he still does.
What was his nic?
Here you go with your racist foolishness again. I dont consider Hinds, ACDA, Kwayana, etc racist, you knucklehead. The question being posed here is who speaks for Indian rights? Certainly not the PPP. And of course, when the Indians speak out, he is readily branded as a racist by the likes of you. Thats my point. And dont tell me Moses and Ramjattan are the protectors of Indians.
1. David Hinds, Eric Phillips and others have been intimidated, threatened and called racist by the PPP and others. Did you condemn those acts? Not on GNI.
2. There are many Indian rights activists. Ryhaan Shah, Ravi Dev, the Guyana Times, the PPP. Please. Now if those entities aren't doing a proper job then you ought to call them out on this, but to claim that "no one speaks for the Indian" is pure crap.
The whole PPP election campaign was about "Indian Rights," and damning Moses Nagamootoo because he CORRECTLY put his nationality as a Guyanese ahead of his ethnicity as an Indian. Moses is a NATIONAL leader, and not an ethnic leader. Its a pity that Jagdeo wasn't the same!
And why are Indian "rights activitsts" branded racists. Because their ENTIRE rant is built on the DEMONIZATION of Africans, by projecting a highly racist and INACCURATE account of Guyanese history. Agenda being to peddle the African as a violent, savage and unproductive brute whose only goal in life is to harass "poor innocent" Indians. Well if this is the thrust we will call them racist.
How many of these Indian rights activists did what Hinds, Rodney, Andaiye and others and that is to condemn the racism of the PNC against Indians, even though they as Africans might have benefitted from this racism?
Who are the Indian rights activists who spoke out against PPP racism towards Africans. The Indians who do so are called self hating Indians, and are told that they "aren't Indian enough". Research the history of Rupert Roopnarine and you will see evidence of this.
So spare me your tears while Jalil goes on a racist binge and you say NOTHING! This is after basemen, rev, yuji, conscience and cobra engaged in the same activity!
David Hinds used to post on GNI. I wonder if he still does.
Most likely one of the many blacks who tired of the endless stigmatization of blacks which occurs here and left. Lucky a few of us remained, which prevented GNI from truly descending into a full scale Indo supremacist site, where it was heading.
Here you go with your racist foolishness again. I dont consider Hinds, ACDA, Kwayana, etc racist, you knucklehead. The question being posed here is who speaks for Indian rights? Certainly not the PPP. And of course, when the Indians speak out, he is readily branded as a racist by the likes of you. Thats my point. And dont tell me Moses and Ramjattan are the protectors of Indians.
1. David Hinds, Eric Phillips and others have been intimidated, threatened and called racist by the PPP and others. Did you condemn those acts? Not on GNI.
2. There are many Indian rights activists. Ryhaan Shah, Ravi Dev, the Guyana Times, the PPP. Please. Now if those entities aren't doing a proper job then you ought to call them out on this, but to claim that "no one speaks for the Indian" is pure crap.
The whole PPP election campaign was about "Indian Rights," and damning Moses Nagamootoo because he CORRECTLY put his nationality as a Guyanese ahead of his ethnicity as an Indian. Moses is a NATIONAL leader, and not an ethnic leader. Its a pity that Jagdeo wasn't the same!
And why are Indian "rights activitsts" branded racists. Because their ENTIRE rant is built on the DEMONIZATION of Africans, by projecting a highly racist and INACCURATE account of Guyanese history. Agenda being to peddle the African as a violent, savage and unproductive brute whose only goal in life is to harass "poor innocent" Indians. Well if this is the thrust we will call them racist.
How many of these Indian rights activists did what Hinds, Rodney, Andaiye and others and that is to condemn the racism of the PNC against Indians, even though they as Africans might have benefitted from this racism?
Who are the Indian rights activists who spoke out against PPP racism towards Africans. The Indians who do so are called self hating Indians, and are told that they "aren't Indian enough". Research the history of Rupert Roopnarine and you will see evidence of this.
So spare me your tears while Jalil goes on a racist binge and you say NOTHING! This is after basemen, rev, yuji, conscience and cobra engaged in the same activity!
...add Ramharack to your list. The same Ramharack this Vish Mahabir fella proposed to lead the PPP. And now he hay crying about indians not being represented.
Not only does David Hinds know that Indians have rights too but he has spoken out on this. He damned the Burnham regime as a racist anti Indian dictatorship and was tortured, almost killed, and forced into exile.
When certain thuggish elements moved into Buxton and wanted to advocate for violence against Indians he was vocal against it. In fact he Andaiye, Kwayana and others were loud in telling Afro Guyanese not to fall into that trap.
Now tell me which Indian rights advocate, who remains an Indian rights advocate, has shown similar concern. Roopnarine was an Indian rights advocate, but as he adapted a more cross ethnic identity me was :not Indian enough". So this Indo Guyanese now is better regarded among Afro Guyanese.
what exactly are my "racist" positions? . . . enlighten abee nah, u cornered, confused antiman
The fact that you call the PPP racist, and don't buy into the "Indo Holocaust" screams as you see that PPP blacks as well as Indians have been dismissed, or sent on extended vacation.
. . . I dont consider Hinds, ACDA, Kwayana, etc racist, you knucklehead. The question being posed here is who speaks for Indian rights? Certainly not the PPP. And of course, when the Indians speak out, he is readily branded as a racist by the likes of you. Thats my point. And dont tell me Moses and Ramjattan are the protectors of Indians.
90% of Indians on this board consider David Hinds a "racist" . . . they can't properly explain why, but they do
what's your stupid point again?
And the remaining 10% remain silent on this topic, even as they damn as racist, any non Indian who spoke out against the racism which was a feature of life under the PPP.
. . . I dont consider Hinds, ACDA, Kwayana, etc racist, you knucklehead. The question being posed here is who speaks for Indian rights? Certainly not the PPP. And of course, when the Indians speak out, he is readily branded as a racist by the likes of you. Thats my point. And dont tell me Moses and Ramjattan are the protectors of Indians.
90% of Indians on this board consider David Hinds a "racist" . . . they can't properly explain why, but they do
what's your stupid point again?
And the remaining 10% remain silent on this topic, even as they damn as racist, any non Indian who spoke out against the racism which was a feature of life under the PPP.
You are a dangerous racist. You born like that and you will die as a racist.
David Hinds used to post on GNI. I wonder if he still does.
What was his nic?
Read between the lines nuh, is everything I have to explain?
David Hinds used to post on GNI. I wonder if he still does.
What was his nic?
Read between the lines nuh, is everything I have to explain?
Hint nuh like his writing style.