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Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

It is against the constitution to merge after the election.

 

Look Old Man,

 

That is not what I said.

 

This is is a pre-election coalition between two or more parties where the parties receive votes cast as separate entities under their own names and symbols and GECOM just tallies them together and count them as 1 entity for the purpose of allocating the victory.

 

So AFC 30,000 votes

 

PNC 160,000 votes

 

GECOM would add and get 190,000 votes for PNC/AFC and their Joint PNC/AFC List would receive a 190,000 vote total.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

It is against the constitution to merge after the election.

 

Look Old Man,

 

That is not what I said.

 

This is is a pre-election coalition between two or more parties where the parties receive votes cast as separate entities under their own names and symbols and GECOM just tallies them together and count them as 1 entity for the purpose of allocating the victory.

 

So AFC 30,000 votes

 

PNC 160,000 votes

 

GECOM would add and get 190,000 votes for PNC/AFC and their Joint PNC/AFC List would receive a 190,000 vote total.

Ayatollah, I think that would still count as a coalition after the elctions.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

It is against the constitution to merge after the election.

 

Look Old Man,

 

That is not what I said.

 

This is is a pre-election coalition between two or more parties where the parties receive votes cast as separate entities under their own names and symbols and GECOM just tallies them together and count them as 1 entity for the purpose of allocating the victory.

 

So AFC 30,000 votes

 

PNC 160,000 votes

 

GECOM would add and get 190,000 votes for PNC/AFC and their Joint PNC/AFC List would receive a 190,000 vote total.

Ayatollah, I think that would still count as a coalition after the elctions.

 

No, not in this case. This is totally a different animal.

FM
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

You cannot tally them together.  That part of the constitution was removed 

in 1980 to facilitate the PNC.  The PNC and UF signed an agreement to support each other after the election to remove the PPP from office. 

 

 

Are you just making shyte up chap?

 

I'm quoting directly from the Representation of the People Act

FM

Section 22

Representation of the People Act

 

22. (1) Subject to subsection (2), two or more lists shall be joined for the distribution of seats (BUT NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF VOTING) if the representative and deputy representative of each list to be so joined gives notice accordingly in writing to the Chief Election Officer not later than the 25th day before election day; and lists so joined are hereinafter referred to collectively as a combination of lists.

FM
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

There you go they didn't  give notice.  There wasn't enough time  for them to be positive about your contentions. According to Moses  the AFC was not going to merge with the PNC.  They did it out of desperation.  Remember Moses hates the PNC. 

 

Do you even bother to read before responding?

 

They have until April 2015 to give notice to GECOM.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Section 22

Representation of the People Act

 

22. (1) Subject to subsection (2), two or more lists shall be joined for the distribution of seats (BUT NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF VOTING) if the representative and deputy representative of each list to be so joined gives notice accordingly in writing to the Chief Election Officer not later than the 25th day before election day; and lists so joined are hereinafter referred to collectively as a combination of lists.

you need to haul your ass (and head) out of 1964 and read the 1980 Constitution

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

What is done cannot be undone.  Do not cry over spilt milk.

 

They are not as intelligent as you are. So let it be.

 

They will severely trashed at the polls.

 

It can be modified to avert a disaster and maybe just maybe deny the PPP/C a parliamentary majority again.

tweedledumb 'debating' tweedledee

 

waste thread . . . smh

FM
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Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Section 22

Representation of the People Act

 

22. (1) Subject to subsection (2), two or more lists shall be joined for the distribution of seats (BUT NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF VOTING) if the representative and deputy representative of each list to be so joined gives notice accordingly in writing to the Chief Election Officer not later than the 25th day before election day; and lists so joined are hereinafter referred to collectively as a combination of lists.

My interpretation would be that this counting as a single entity for allocation of seats would be Parliamentary matters, but not to deny a minority government if another party has more seats than the combined parties individually. Isn't this what occurred in the last Parliament? Or were the combined APNU-AFC voes informal?

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Section 22

Representation of the People Act

 

22. (1) Subject to subsection (2), two or more lists shall be joined for the distribution of seats (BUT NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF VOTING) if the representative and deputy representative of each list to be so joined gives notice accordingly in writing to the Chief Election Officer not later than the 25th day before election day; and lists so joined are hereinafter referred to collectively as a combination of lists.

My interpretation would be that this counting as a single entity for allocation of seats would be Parliamentary matters, but not to deny a minority government if another party has more seats than the combined parties individually. Isn't this what occurred in the last Parliament? Or were the combined APNU-AFC voes informal?

 

I think you're wrong here bro. It would only make sense as a legal provision to allow a pre-election coalition comprising separate and distinct Lists so as to permit their combined votes achieved separately to be totaled together in order to defeat another single party or another pre-election coalition.

 

The APNU and AFC were totally separate and unaffiliated parties in the last parliament and 2011 election. That they collaborated and even voted together often was an informal matter establishing no linkage in law.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Section 22

Representation of the People Act

 

22. (1) Subject to subsection (2), two or more lists shall be joined for the distribution of seats (BUT NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF VOTING) if the representative and deputy representative of each list to be so joined gives notice accordingly in writing to the Chief Election Officer not later than the 25th day before election day; and lists so joined are hereinafter referred to collectively as a combination of lists.

My interpretation would be that this counting as a single entity for allocation of seats would be Parliamentary matters, but not to deny a minority government if another party has more seats than the combined parties individually. Isn't this what occurred in the last Parliament? Or were the combined APNU-AFC voes informal?

 

I think you're wrong here bro. It would only make sense as a legal provision to allow a pre-election coalition comprising separate and distinct Lists so as to permit their combined votes achieved separately to be totaled together in order to defeat another single party or another pre-election coalition.

 

The APNU and AFC were totally separate and unaffiliated parties in the last parliament and 2011 election. That they collaborated and even voted together often was an informal matter establishing no linkage in law.

Guyana has a Presidential system . . . the winning candidate for president is elected directly as indicated on the contesting parties' lists

 

even a cursory reading of sec. 177 would dispose of this foolishness

 

i hope y'all now understand why this is "masturbatory"?

FM

Further political coalitions possible until Thursday

EIGHT political parties in the 2015 General and Regional Elections race have qualified as contenders, according to the Guyana Elections Commission’s (GECOM) Chief Elections Officer (CEO), Keith Lowenfield.The parties submitting their National Top-up List, Geographical Constituencies List, and Regional Democratic Council Lists include: The United Force (TUF); the Healing The Nation Theocracy Party (HTNT); the United Republican Party (URP); the Independent Party (IP); the Organisation for the Victory of the People (OVP); and the National Independence Party (NIP).
The two major political contenders are the incumbent People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) and the coalesced A Partnership for National Unity and the Alliance For Change (APNU+AFC).
The CEO said, in an invited comment, that the Commission approved the lists of candidates submitted by the parties on Nomination Day, April 7.
However, Lowenfield highlighted that the eight contenders have until Thursday to collaborate into political coalitions that will contest the regional and/or national elections.
According to him, the Elections Commission is required to gazette the approved lists of candidates by the 25th day before Elections Day – given that E-Day is May 11th that would mean that the cut-off for further political coalition agreements to be made is April 16th.
The next step, Lowenfield added, is the publication of the final lists of candidates.
GECOM has until the 20th day before E-Day to do this.
In accordance with the electoral system of Proportional Representation, in order to qualify for a seat in the National Assembly, contesting parties must contest a minimum of six of the Geographical Constituencies – totalling at least 13 seats – for eligibility to contest and submit Geographical Constituencies Lists and National Top-up Lists. This arrangement will provide for qualified contesting parties to submit, on Nomination Day, two separate Lists of Candidates. Any political party can contest the election of members of any of the 10 Regional Democratic Councils. (Vanessa Narine)

FM
Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:

Boat done gone a fall, why you teking worries.

 

The Gyal belly done BIG.  You cannot undo the sexing.

 

That's true. But I do take a little bit of sick pleasure (schadenfreude for you literati types) in pointing and laughing at all the dreamers here on GNI who seem to not only have emigrated from Guyana but also to have emigrated from reality

FM

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