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Move over India -- South Africa bids to become call center capital

By Victoria Eastwood, CNN
December 6, 2012 -- Updated 1014 GMT (1814 HKT)
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South Africa invests in call centers

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • South Africa is looking to grow its call center industry
  • The government has introduced a number of financial incentives to attract more companies
  • Companies like Amazon and Aegis are now using South African call centers
  • The South African accent is a major asset, industry players claim

Durban, South Africa (CNN) -- Your phone rings. Someone's trying to sell you financial services. The person you're speaking to is likely to be sitting in a massive room with hundreds of other people. And if you're in an English-speaking country, the chances are they will have an Indian accent.

India may be the world leader in call centers but in South Africa the government is hoping to grow its own industry, so the person calling you in the future could be a South African.

Amazon and Aegis are among the internationally renowned companies using South African call centers. British company Coracall has also opened a call center in South Africa. The company's CEO, Philip Lightfoot, says he looked at other international call center destinations, including India and the Philippines, but was lured to Durban.

"The main reason for coming to South Africa was the pool of talent, with regards to the employees we could bring in," he says.

 

But it was the South African accent that's proved particularly compelling for his business interests.

"For the UK in particular there has been a stigma around the Indian accent," he says. "South Africa, as a destination, because it has such a neutral accent, especially Durbanites have such a neutral accent, means the UK population is receptive to speaking to individual from South Africa, and in particular, Durban."

 

Coracall currently employs 300 people, but it has plans to expand over the next three years. Its staff, many of whom happen to be from Durban's large Indian community, are calling the UK asking about customer satisfaction for a major car company.

The South African government wants to attract more companies like Coracall to its shores, as well as grow its own domestic industry. It has introduced a number of financial incentives in the hope of achieving this. Companies are now eligible for grants for investment and training, as well as tax breaks for job creation.

We can now compete with other offshore locations, such as India and the Philippines.
Suleman Shaikh, Direct Channel Holdings

"It has had a massive impact," says Suleman Shaikh. He runs a call center in Johannesburg that deals specifically with the South African consumer market.

He adds: "It has made the industry much more competitive in terms of attracting offshore investment into the country.

"We can now compete with other offshore locations, such as India and the Philippines, much more favorably. It has lowered the barriers of entry into the market and it really has given the industry that competitive edge we have been looking for."

 

According to South Africa's national association for companies operating in the "Business Process Service and Outsourcing" market, this competitive edge is beginning to deliver results.

The industry grew over 85% from 2007 to 2010. Around 10,000 people are currently employed in this sector but that is expected to rise to 40,000 by 2015.

"The industry has grown exponentially over the last 10 years," says Shaikh. "I have seen the industry grow from a few thousand agents to tens of thousands agents. I have seen it grow from just pure domestic operators to at least six new entrants from the UK entering South Africa over the last 24 months."

It is incredible the amount of commitment that African countries are making to this industry.
Brendon van Staaden, CEO of Inter-Active Technologies

For the South African government there are incentives too; this is a labor-intensive industry and one that is proving lucrative. Between 2009-10 the industry made nearly $250 million in exports.

South Africa's success in this area is attracting interest from other African countries, according to Brendon van Staaden, the CEO of Inter-Active Technologies. His call centers provide services for Samsung and the cable television provider Multi Choice, but he also provides technology for businesses opening their own call centers in other parts of Africa.

"It is incredible the amount of commitment that African countries are making to this industry," van Staaden says. "If you look at the prospects we are faced with over the next four to five years it is a very exciting space to play in.

"We have come of age in South Africa. As a result of that the African states, particularly the neighboring states, have begun to notice this a lot."

It's unlikely that South Africa's call center industry will outflank India's, even with its rising labor costs. However, this industry is growing at a time when South Africa is struggling with unemployment.

But it seems not everyone is convinced by the local accent.

"Usually our Scottish customers have a bit of difficulty understanding us," says Durban call center worker Rhoda Anandam. "That's because of their accent themselves, because they are used to communicating with people of their same accent.

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Originally Posted by Lucas:

Guyana has a neutral Caribbean accent. We should make a similar move.

Guyanese have as distinct an accent as do any other Caribbean people.  Just listen to your current and recent former presidents if you doubt.  Maybe Burnham can be described as having a neutral Caribbean accent.  But certainly not Jagdeo, nor Ramotar.  Indeed one needs subtitles for Ramotar if you arent Guyanese.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Lucas:

Guyana has a neutral Caribbean accent. We should make a similar move.

Guyanese have as distinct an accent as do any other Caribbean people.  Just listen to your current and recent former presidents if you doubt.  Maybe Burnham can be described as having a neutral Caribbean accent.  But certainly not Jagdeo, nor Ramotar.  Indeed one needs subtitles for Ramotar if you arent Guyanese.

Maybe if you listen to yourself you might need subtitles to understand yourself too. You have so much hate for the PPP and Ramotar, no matter what they do for Guyana; it's not good according to you and your PNC gospel. You prefer to see Guyana being the beggar of the Caribbean again. Remember, Guyana was once the bread basket of the Caribbean. We're getting to be the bread basket of the Caribbean again. Give the PPP time.

FM

I told many Indian when I was there that India cannot have an economic strategy built on call centers and IT outsourcing.  The country needs to develop it's infrastructure, the labor force needs to change and become discipline and they needs to start developing and producing "things", for real.

 

I don't know how they really think.

FM

White people will choose to help a filipino any day of the week over an east indian.  Those filipinos are their brothers and sisters.  So they are moving their call centers to the philipines and South Africa.  These white people are not like us East Indians.  They take care of their own people. So as long as there are poor whites in South Africa you can bet your last penny that they will take care of their brothers and sisters. Forget about this nonsense about globalization and global economic reality bulls--t that they tell us.  In the end it is all about the bilderberg group and its promotion of cultural,economic and political ties among white nations and white leaders that matters to them. Can we blame them for caring about their own while we kick our own.  No way Jose. 

 

(And just remember this. If Jose is filipino then there is a much better chance that he would be invited to the bilderberg meetings over an East Indian man like Baseman)

Prashad
Last edited by Prashad
Originally Posted by Prashad:

White people will choose to help a filipino any day of the week over an east indian.  Those filipinos are their brothers and sisters.  So they are moving their call centers to the philipines and South Africa.  These white people are not like us East Indians.  They take care of their own people. So as long as there are poor whites in South Africa you can bet your last penny that they will take care of their brothers and sisters. Forget about this nonsense about globalization and global economic reality bulls--t that they tell us.  In the end it is all about the bilderberg group and its promotion of cultural,economic and political ties among white nations and white leaders that matters to them. Can we blame them for caring about their own while we kick our own.  No way Jose. 

 

(And just remember this. If Jose is filipino then there is a much better chance that he would be invited to the bilderberg meetings over an East Indian man like Baseman)

You are a typical Indian fill with useless rhetoric.  Indians have enjoyed the boom while it last and Indian are given lots of H1B visas to come and work here.  Most of the call-centers in SA will be manned by blacks, so what's your point.

 

The fact that India is losing it's edge is an excuse found in some one else.  This is a very typical thinking I found there, everyone blames every one else and not look to the root cause.  Banna, take it for what it's worth, Call-centers, IT outsourcing, etc are feeble foundations to build a lasting economic model.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

It is not that India is losing its edge but rather there are better opportunities for college grads there now rather than be a call center employee, a profession way below their capabilities. As the economy grows in India, the low paying jobs will move to countries where the wages are less.

I can tell you, the supply of talent is very limited and wages shoot up very quickly.  India does not educate it's masses like China does so the few quickly price a business out of contention.  I had to give salary increases every six-months to retain the trained staff. The average IT professional earns much more that the same person in China.

 

I'm not sure of your position, India has been struggling for growth over the past few years and it takes sustained 10% growth rate to materially impact poverty.  I don't see the alternate growth areas and innovation in India is very lacking.  Indian has six growth metropolis which account for 20% of it's employed workforce.

FM

I agree with baseman.  All we need to do is to look at how cheap labor from India,Pakistan and Bangladesh have built up the United Arab Emerates and have made those countries wealthy. That work force should be put to work building up the sub- continent like what the mughals did with irrigation projects and other massive building projects.

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Poor Indians need to rise up and Demand Better NOW.

It's not as simple as that.  Poor Indians actually believe it's their lot in life.  It will take the more affluent group and politicians to break the cycle if they want to break India out of it's 3nd class/3rd world existence.  India needs an Indira Gandhi or Chairman Mao type to break the cycle.

FM
Originally Posted by Wally:

I agree with baseman.  All we need to do is to look at how cheap labor from India,Pakistan and Bangladesh have built up the United Arab Emerates and have made those countries wealthy. That work force should be put to work building up the sub- continent like what the mughals did with irrigation projects and other massive building projects.

I absolutely agree. Indian in their own land appear to be the most mediocre. They need to scape the slum to show their talent.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
You prefer to see Guyana being the beggar of the Caribbean again.


Oh I wasnt aware that it stopped being the beggar, given the thousands of Guyanese who have fled to these islands, most seemingly unwilling to return, even though the economies in those places have slowed.  Just the other day a woman from St Kitts was telling me that Guyanese are the number one source of immigrants there, and she was wondering why they come, given that the economy on that island is now now quite slow.  Bajans, Trinis and others wonder the same.

FM
Originally Posted by Lucas:

I have said before that Guyana could become an English language school for South Americans. .


OK let me EDUCATE you.  Every day one can fly from Trinidad and reach all the major cities in Latin America with a two hour intransit in Panama City.  Guyanese must travel via MIA or via Trinidad.

 

So why will some Latin go to some school in Guyana when many ALREADY go to language schools in Trinidad?  Trinidad has extensive business ties with latin America.  Guyana has some brothels owned by Brazilians, some restaurants, and legions of illegal Brazilian gold miners.

 

Stop dreaming.

FM

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