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Without proper plan, reopening sugar estates would be throwing money away

– former Business Minister

By Shikema Dey, Sep 04, 2020 News 0, Source - Kaieteur News Online - https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...throwing-money-away/

President Irfaan Ali recently announced that the new People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPP/C) administration has begun the process of reopening three of the four sugar estates that were shut down by the previous APNU+AFC coalition government.

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Former Business Minister, Dominic Gaskin

Such a move would require a proper plan or else it would be an utter waste of taxpayers funds. That was the opinion shared by former Business Minister, Dominic Gaskin.

“If you reopen them without any sort of plan, that would be madness. It would be just throwing taxpayers money down the drain and putting at risk our future oil revenues,” he told Kaieteur News, during an exclusive interview.

Gaskin was part of the last administration who took the decision to shut the Rose Hall, Wales, Skeldon and Enmore sugar factories when they took office in 2015.

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The Skeldon factory, East Berbice.

Sustaining the seven estates at the time was putting a major dent in the treasury, they said, and later, those four estates were shut down and more than 7,000 workers were laid off.

The PPP/C vowed to resuscitate the sugar industry, providing hope for the thousands of workers who were left without jobs and struggled to maintain their families since the closures.

With President Ali’s announcement, that vow may soon become a reality, but according to the former Business Minister, a robust plan is needed as the sugar industry has many challenges.

“I’d love to see the plan, I’d love to get a better idea of how he expects to, where he intends to get the money to invest and what sort of investments he is likely to make into the estates and how he basically plans to reopen and resuscitate those estates. I would love to see a very comprehensive plan to do that and make is profitable, otherwise he is just throwing money away,” Gaskin said.

The sugar industry, Gaskin added, is not profitable. He asked: “…why would you want to reopen sugar estates that were not profitable when they were open.”

Instead of reopening the estates, the former Minister opined that focus should be placed on the three estates that are operable to turn them into profitable ventures.

“…Because, if you can’t make those three estates that are still open profitable, how are you going to make six sugar estates profitable, especially given the fact that the ones that were closed were the ones that were the least profitable of all…those were making more losses than the others.”

To make sugar profitable, Gaskin explained that a fairly comprehensive and long-term strategic plan is integral to restructure the industry to make it viable.

At this point, he added: “I really don’t see how he can do that.”

“It is easy to talk, talk is cheap, you know, if he has some great plan, to reopen the estates and make them profitable fine, I just know that it is a lot more, it is not just as easy as going out there and making statements.”

The promised reopening of the closed estates comes with the prospect of new jobs for the thousands of Guyanese who were plunged into unemployment, and that was the selling point for the PPP/C on the campaign trail.

However, Gaskin was of the view that simply reopening the estates to employ “does not make sense.”

“I am all for jobs,” he said “but the problem is why are you tying people down to an industry that is not profitable, an industry where in which we are competing with other international players making sugar much more efficiently than we are.”

Such a move, Gaskin said would not be “logical.”

Further, Gaskin stated what he would also like to see is a comprehensive plan for job creation in the communities where those estates were shut – jobs that see Guyanese being engaged in activities that are profitable, globally competitive and those that can create sustainable industries.

And such a plan should be made public, he continued, citing that it would take billions of taxpayer dollars to fund the reopening bill.

“If you are going to take the taxpayers money to reopen the estates, just to create jobs, then I think the taxpayers are entitled to understand at least what the plan is and how long is it going to take before they see a return on the money that is going to be invested in those estates.”

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@Former Member posted:

Without proper plan, reopening sugar estates would be throwing money away

– former Business Minister

By Shikema Dey, Sep 04, 2020 News 0, Source - Kaieteur News Online - https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...throwing-money-away/

President Irfaan Ali recently announced that the new People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPP/C) administration has begun the process of reopening three of the four sugar estates that were shut down by the previous APNU+AFC coalition government.

Gaskin was part of the last administration who took the decision to shut the Rose Hall, Wales, Skeldon and Enmore sugar factories when they took office in 2015.

“I’d love to see the plan, I’d love to get a better idea of how he expects to, where he intends to get the money to invest and what sort of investments he is likely to make into the estates and how he basically plans to reopen and resuscitate those estates. I would love to see a very comprehensive plan to do that and make is profitable, otherwise he is just throwing money away,” Gaskin said.

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/images/2020/09/dominic-gaskin.jpg

Former Business Minister, Dominic Gaskin

Perhaps, Dominic Gaskin appoints himself as the sole expert to review the comprehensive plan to determine the effectiveness of the works.

FM

India helping Guyana to reopen sugar estates

, Source - News Room - https://newsroom.gy/2020/09/04...eopen-sugar-estates/

The Guyana Government has asked the Indian Government to help reopen the sugar estates which were closed by the former APNU+AFC administration.

Agriculture Minister Zulfikar Mustapha recently met with unions representing sugar workers – the Guyana Agricultural and General Workers’ Union (GAWU) and the National Association for Agricultural Commercial and Industrial Employees (NAACIE) – and disclosed that India will be sending two technical officers to Guyana to assist with the re-organization of the sugar industry.

“As a matter of fact, I recently submitted the Terms of Reference (TOR) and they (the Indian Government) will be sending two specialists to assist with the re-organization of the industry. This is the first step,” he told the unions, according to a statement from the Ministry.

“I’ve also discussed acquiring the equipment necessary to assemble factories at estates that were closed. Many of the factories were left as empty shells and in order for us to reopen those estates we need to replace all of the equipment. The High Commissioner was very interested and we will have further discussions on it soon,” Minister Mustapha added.

The discussions have begun with Indian High Commissioner to Guyana, Dr. K.J Srinivasa who the Minister said “has expressed his Government’s willingness to assist.”

Minister Mustapha indicated that there is a task force working to assess the current state of the closed estates and is working hard to ensure those who benefitted from the estates can regain their livelihood.

General Secretary of GAWU, Seepaul Narine, pointed out the need to also explore areas like cogeneration and the use of the bagasse and other bi-products of sugar cane that are usually discarded in the production of sugar.

“…one of the things we can look at, in the future, is to engage the Indian government to acquire equipment to assemble factories at these estates. The factories do not have to be as big as the ones that were closed. In fact, the project can be more about making an entire complex, where Government can set up a distillery and explore the production other feasible things from the sugarcane like of animal feed, organic compost, etc. You can also look at the packaging, branding and marketing of molasses,” Narine pointed out.

He said the market is already there for the bi-products.

Also present at meeting were: MoA Director General Madanlall Ramraj; NAACIE and Federation of Independent Trade Union of Guyana (FITUG) General Secretary Dawchan Nagasar; other officials from GAWU and NAACIE – Gordon Thomas, Rikhram Srikishen, Rickey Rambeer, Aslim Singh and Porandatt Narine.

The Unions and the Ministry committed to working together to reopening the estates and building the industry.

The Government is pursuing the reopening of all sugar estates which were closed between 2016 to 2018 with the exception of Wales in Region Three as items from that factory were reportedly sold off.

The administration hopes that it can also return the state-owned sugar industry to profitability.

GAWU on Thursday said the Guyana Sugar Corporation (GuySUCo) is heading for its worst production in history.

The sugar company at the beginning of the year said it would produce 114,162 tonnes sugar – 46,475 tonnes in the first crop and 67,687 tonnes in the second crop.

The Corporation, in a press statement on July 27, 2020, admitted that it only managed to produce 37,015 tonnes sugar during the first crop, a deficit of 9,460 tonnes sugar.

Turning to the second crop, after some revision, the GuySuCo informed that it will produce 69,480 tonnes sugar.

According to GAWU, the production for the year versus estimated production is as follows:-

According to GAWU, the production for the year versus estimated production is as follows:-

EstateActual ProductionEstimated ProductionDeficit
Albion21,71635,342-13,627
Blairmont14,66118,555-3,894
Uitvlugt10,15917,031-6,873
Industry46,53570,928-24,393

The Corporation’s major problem continues to be the lack of quality canes in its fields, the Union said.

https://newsroom.gy/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Agriculture-Minister-Zulfikar-Mustapha-during-his-meeting-with-GAWU-and-NAACIE-officials-750x430.jpgAgriculture Minister, Zulfikar Mustapha during his meeting with GAWU and NAACIE officials

FM

If the PPP kept their promise to the sugar workers the estates should have been open by now.  But, lying to the sugar workers is nothing new for the current PPP.  Once a sucker, always a sucker.

T
@Totaram posted:

If the PPP kept their promise to the sugar workers the estates should have been open by now.  But, lying to the sugar workers is nothing new for the current PPP.  Once a sucker, always a sucker.

You cannot just flip a switch. Furthermore, if they are to reopen, now would be the opportune time to evaluate the operations and upgrade where appropriate.

FM
@Former Member posted:

You cannot just flip a switch. Furthermore, if they are to reopen, now would be the opportune time to evaluate the operations and upgrade where appropriate.

Of course you can't just flip a switch but they promised the sugar workers and their sympathisers that the estates would be opened the day they took office.  Characteristically they were lying and some suckers believed them.  The PPP is now led by a bunch of crooks .

T

This shows the PPP running around disorganized, as they normally do. 

The Chinese built the Marriott hotel with Chinese workers, while Guyana has high unemployment.

Also, the Chinese built the Skeldon factory that never worked right and was draining the treasury, before it was closed down. But now in their smarts, the PPP is getting the Indians to evaluate Skeldon factory and possible do the repairs.

Someone must have got a lot of benefits from the Chinese. Will the Indians do the same?  

Does the PPP know what they are doing ?  Maybe they will also get the Indians to evaluate the fibre cable and exclude Ramotar's son from assisting. Who laughed all the way to the bank, for a project that never operated.     

Tola

Most of you guys are talking out of turn.

The plans are in the making and almost done.  Gaskin should ask the Minister what the plans are.  Gaskin did nothing for business when he was a minister.

 

R
@Tola posted:

This shows the PPP running around disorganized, as they normally do. 

The Chinese built the Marriott hotel with Chinese workers, while Guyana has high unemployment.

Also, the Chinese built the Skeldon factory that never worked right and was draining the treasury, before it was closed down. But now in their smarts, the PPP is getting the Indians to evaluate Skeldon factory and possible do the repairs.

Someone must have got a lot of benefits from the Chinese. Will the Indians do the same?  

Does the PPP know what they are doing ?  Maybe they will also get the Indians to evaluate the fibre cable and exclude Ramotar's son from assisting. Who laughed all the way to the bank, for a project that never operated.     

Also the Moco Moco Hydro ,which lasted a few years and the dam gave away after a heavy rain fall.

Django

Moco Moco Hydro plant to be resuscitated after 14 years

–    Geotechnical investigation crucial before rehab – Patterson

Apr 01, 2017 News, Source Kaieteur News Online - https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...ated-after-14-years/

The Moco Moco Hydro plant in Rupununi, Region Nine (Upper Takutu/Upper Essequibo) is expected to make a comeback after lying dormant for some 14 years. However, before works can begin on the facility, a detailed geotechnical investigation of the site is required.

Public Infrastructure Minister David Patterson said yesterday that the investigation will be crucial to the revival of the facility.

The Chinese-funded hydropower plant was commissioned on November 22, 1999 and was developed as a run-of-the-river project. Four years later, the penstock (a sluice for controlling or directing the flow of water) was damaged by a devastating landslide, in July 2003, resulting in a cessation of operations.

Despite several attempts by the former administration, the People Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) it was never rectified. The facility has since been subject to vandalism.

Steps were taken in 2015 by the new administration to have the plant, along with several others, up and running. In early 2016, the government had announced the rehabilitation of plant which in its current state, was estimated to cost $200M.

Five foreign-based companies submitted bids for the rehabilitation and operation of the facility after the Public Infrastructure Ministry had asked for Expressions of Interest (EoI) in keeping with Government’s plans to develop a ‘Green Economy’.

The EoI was initially published in January 2016 and the submissions were opened on March 31, 2016 at the Guyana Energy Agency (GEA) Head Office, Georgetown.

Among the five submissions were CHEA – Centrias Hidreletricas da Amazonia LTDA – ME (Brazil); NCGET (Russia); Torque – EPCM (Barbados) and two from McVantage Products out of the USA.

Patterson said yesterday that the geotechnical survey will be funded from resources obtained from the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB).

The cost to resuscitate the plant, Patterson said, will be determined by the findings of the investigations. He could not say at the time, how much will be spent on the investigation.

In an advertisement published in the Kaieteur News yesterday, the Hinterland Electrification Company Incorporated is requesting EoI for consultancy services which will be executed under the Sustainable Energy Programme for Guyana.

The main  objective  of the consultancy is to carry out the necessary investigations at the plant’s site to obtain  the required  geological  and topographical   information  for the development  of the rehabilitation  design  of the facility, particularly as it relates  to the penstock alignment  which was destroyed.

The services will include geological surveys and engineering geological mapping, topographic mapping, geophysical surveys and excavation of test pits.

This project is expected to see residents in Lethem and surrounding areas benefiting from higher quality and more reliable electricity supply. It will also take some strain off the Lethem Power Company which has been providing power to residents of Moco Moco by way of diesel generators.

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/images/2017/03/station.jpgThe Moco-Moco hydropower station, Rupununi Region Nine.

FM
@Django posted:

Also the Moco Moco Hydro ,which lasted a few years and the dam gave away after a heavy rain fall.

@Ramakant-P posted:

Something similar happened to the Mazaruni Hydroelectric plant that Burnham was building.

No such thing happened to the Mazaruni River Hydroelectric Power proposal.

No such project was built ... it was only in the planning stage.

Extensive investigative studies were done and reports prepared for two proposals.

I was the Specialist Hydropower Engineer who was responsible for the feasibility studies done for two proposals -- Mazaruni River Hydroelectric Power and Cuyuni River Hydroelectric Power feasibility studies.

FM
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@Former Member posted:

You cannot just flip a switch. Furthermore, if they are to reopen, now would be the opportune time to evaluate the operations and upgrade where appropriate.

Bhai, dat is what FILTH HEADS and their supporters do. Why yuh think Guyana became a SHIT HOLE

Nehru
@Former Member posted:

No such thing happened to the Mazaruni River Hydroelectric Power proposal.

No such project was built ... it was only in the planning stage.

Extensive investigative studies were done and reports prepared for two proposals.

I was the Specialist Hydropower Engineer who was responsible for the feasibility studies done for two proposals -- Mazaruni River Hydroelectric Power and Cuyuni River Hydroelectric Power feasibility studies.

In that case, do you know comrade Lakeram Singh? He worked on the project.

R
@Former Member posted:

No such thing happened to the Mazaruni River Hydroelectric Power proposal.

No such project was built ... it was only in the planning stage.

Extensive investigative studies were done and reports prepared for two proposals.

I was the Specialist Hydropower Engineer who was responsible for the feasibility studies done for two proposals -- Mazaruni River Hydroelectric Power and Cuyuni River Hydroelectric Power feasibility studies.

As a matter of fact, the government didn't know what they were doing. The plan was rejected, why?

R
@cain posted:

Is like Rama hinting DG din know what he was doin.

DG, dah banna got lotsa nerve doin something like dat.

Cain ...

It is his choice to engage with unrelated questions/issues/views.

FM
@Nehru posted:

Bhai, dat is what FILTH HEADS and their supporters do. Why yuh think Guyana became a SHIT HOLE

You just have to ignore dunces and move on. The PPP will not only resurrect the sugar industry, they will resurrect Guyana. 

FM
@cain posted:

Is like Rama hinting DG din know what he was doin.

DG, dah banna got lotsa nerve doin something like dat.

Too many Google smart people on dis forum, who needs to get off their butts and write from personal experience.  

Tola

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