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Woman’s bound remains found in shallow grave near husband’s business place

As she lay in hospital with a blackened eye and swollen face, 36-year-old Zaila Sugrim told a young Kaieteur News reporter last December that her

A battered Zaila Sugrim in December, 2018

husband had threatened to kill her and leave her “in a shallow grave.”
Yesterday, a team of detectives dug up what they believe to be Mrs. Sugrim’s bound, wrapped, and decomposing remains from a shallow grave behind a Crane, West Coast Demerara gas station that her husband, Ryan Sugrim, operates.
Sources said that the victim, who was wearing a flowered dress, was bound hand and foot with strips of cloth. Kaieteur News understands that she appeared to have been badly beaten.
Her features were reportedly too decomposed to allow for a positively identification.
The killer had set a fire over the grave, apparently in an attempt to obliterate the spot.
As detectives worked at their gruesome task, a handcuffed Ryan Sugrim sat a short distance away in a police vehicle.
Some of the victim’s close relatives were among the many who rushed to the area after news of the discovery spread.
The body was subsequently taken to the Ezekiel Funeral Home, while the slain woman’s husband was taken to a police station for further questioning.
Kaieteur News understands that Mr. Sugrim was taken into custody on Monday after police received reports that his estranged wife, a mother of five, was missing.
She was said to have been last seen alive on Saturday, when she entered her husband’s vehicle.
But a senior police official said that the detained husband has given no statement that has implicated him.
The official stressed that investigators had a lot of work to do before they could consider the case closed.
“(The husband) has told us nothing up to now, and no relative has identified the remains. We will have to build a case; we will have to do a postmortem and do DNA tests.”
According to reports, Mrs. Sugrim visited one of her sons on Saturday. She reportedly later left with her estranged spouse.

When she failed to return home, relatives reportedly tried to contact her. After several futile attempts they reported her missing.
The official who spoke to Kaieteur News said that investigators received information about a shallow grave near the gas station at Crane that the missing woman’s spouse operates.
In late December, Zaila Sugrim was hospitalized for five days after she was allegedly beaten by her spouse, from whom she had separated last August.
She had left him allegedly over his abusive behaviour. She had claimed that her spouse had also bound her with duct tape.
The assault allegedly occurred in his car.
She alleged that while choking her, he said, “I will kill you and leave you in a shallow grave.”
Ryan Sugrim, 37, was later charged for unlawful restraint and causing grievous bodily harm.
However, Zaila Sugrim later told Kaieteur News that she had dropped the matter after being compensated.

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It is one thing about the cowards. But the issue is a societal one, part of the national culture, it seems for macho men to treat women as their playthings. 

Imagine that this problem was brought to the attention of authorities before the killing.... 

V
yuji22 posted:

This banna should be hanged or the police should have shot him on the spot and end the families pain that they now have to endure. 

That would make Guyana a lawless country with police being judge, jury and executioner....like the old Wild West

V

Guys have to think through, this is the mother of his kids.   It matters not how angry and upset you get in these situations.  Think beyond your anger, think of your children and the implications for them, even if you don’t care about yourself.

She still trusted him and went into the car with him so she clearly was not engulfed in hatred of him.

Now what, five kids lost their mother and their father. They are now orphaned at the hands of a person they call “daddy!”

This is much worse on them than if some bandit had killed both parents!  Horrible!!😥

FM
VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:

This banna should be hanged or the police should have shot him on the spot and end the families pain that they now have to endure. 

That would make Guyana a lawless country with police being judge, jury and executioner....like the old Wild West

This would the time when an exception to the law is acceptable. Some men who abuse their wives commit these types of crimes.

Wife abusers should be severely punished and locked away. A lot of Guyanese men think that it is acceptable behaviour. 

FM
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Baseman posted:

Guys have to think through, this is the mother of his kids.   It matters not how angry and upset you get in these situations.  Think beyond your anger, think of your children and the implications for them, even if you don’t care about yourself.

She still trusted him and went into the car with him so she clearly was not engulfed in hatred of him.

Now what, five kids lost their mother and their father. They are now orphaned at the hands of a person they call “daddy!”

This is much worse on them than if some bandit had killed both parents!  Horrible!!😥

Like I always say, the last good opportunity is before you light the fire. What gets burned after that is completely out of your control (c).

FM
Amral posted:

All these good looking women getting bad treatment. Too bad. 

Some men who end up with attractive women don’t know how to handle it. They usually become engulfed in fear, jealousy and lack of trust.

FM
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She alleged that while choking her, he said, “I will kill you and leave you in a shallow grave.”
Ryan Sugrim, 37, was later charged for unlawful restraint and causing grievous bodily harm.
However, Zaila Sugrim later told Kaieteur News that she had dropped the matter after being compensated.

 

Being compensated,  you mean the husband PAID her to stay quiet?? The police failed to do their job, lock him up.

In N/A , a crime is a crime, he should have been punished the first time and she moved to her family. It is unfortunate in Guyana ,there is NO support system for battered spouses, in Toronto there are shelter for abused women ,plus free legal support.

 That SOB is no good to society, he deserves the most severe penalty.

K
Django posted:

Another brutal murder, time to bring back the hangman. What Prezi Granger waiting for ? take a cue from former deceased President Hoyte.

Aaah yes. ...The hangman. Very popular guy . I wonder who it was that ended his reign. Probably kicking himself in tbe balls now.

Sheik101
ksazma posted:
Amral posted:

All these good looking women getting bad treatment. Too bad. 

Some men who end up with attractive women don’t know how to handle it. They usually become engulfed in fear, jealousy and lack of trust.

You know the thing.  I am hearing that there was an attempted murder charge once before and she dropped the charges because family beg she and for the sake of the children.  

All of these charities collecting money for domestic violence do not seem to be making an impact.  

Bibi Haniffa
VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:

This banna should be hanged or the police should have shot him on the spot and end the families pain that they now have to endure. 

That would make Guyana a lawless country with police being judge, jury and executioner....like the old Wild West

But it is a lawless country. So its either the police being the judge, jury or executioner or the criminal minded. Pick your poison.

Sheik101
ksazma posted:
Amral posted:

All these good looking women getting bad treatment. Too bad. 

Some men who end up with attractive women don’t know how to handle it. They usually become engulfed in fear, jealousy and lack of trust.

They can always send them to Uncle Nehru!!

Nehru
Sheik101 posted:
VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:

This banna should be hanged or the police should have shot him on the spot and end the families pain that they now have to endure. 

That would make Guyana a lawless country with police being judge, jury and executioner....like the old Wild West

But it is a lawless country. So its either the police being the judge, jury or executioner or the criminal minded. Pick your poison.

Your PNC has turn Guyana into a cesspool!!!

Nehru
Bibi Haniffa posted:
ksazma posted:
Amral posted:

All these good looking women getting bad treatment. Too bad. 

Some men who end up with attractive women don’t know how to handle it. They usually become engulfed in fear, jealousy and lack of trust.

You know the thing.  I am hearing that there was an attempted murder charge once before and she dropped the charges because family beg she and for the sake of the children.  

All of these charities collecting money for domestic violence do not seem to be making an impact.  

What is Jagdeo foundation doing for women who are victims of domestic abuse?

Mitwah
Sheik101 posted:
Django posted:

Another brutal murder, time to bring back the hangman. What Prezi Granger waiting for ? take a cue from former deceased President Hoyte.

Aaah yes. ...The hangman. Very popular guy . I wonder who it was that ended his reign. Probably kicking himself in tbe balls now.

Guyana’s last execution was back in 1997

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...eath-penalty-remains

As of November 2018, there were 17 people on death row in Guyana.

https://www.deathpenaltyworldw...country=Guyana#a18-2

Django
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Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
ksazma posted:
Amral posted:

All these good looking women getting bad treatment. Too bad. 

Some men who end up with attractive women don’t know how to handle it. They usually become engulfed in fear, jealousy and lack of trust.

You know the thing.  I am hearing that there was an attempted murder charge once before and she dropped the charges because family beg she and for the sake of the children.  

All of these charities collecting money for domestic violence do not seem to be making an impact.  

What is Jagdeo foundation doing for women who are victims of domestic abuse?

You struggling to make a point, eh pundit.

K
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
ksazma posted:
Amral posted:

All these good looking women getting bad treatment. Too bad. 

Some men who end up with attractive women don’t know how to handle it. They usually become engulfed in fear, jealousy and lack of trust.

You know the thing.  I am hearing that there was an attempted murder charge once before and she dropped the charges because family beg she and for the sake of the children.  

All of these charities collecting money for domestic violence do not seem to be making an impact.  

What is Jagdeo foundation doing for women who are victims of domestic abuse?

What is Tola doing ? He is taking in Cantonese nowadays. 

FM
VishMahabir posted:

It is one thing about the cowards. But the issue is a societal one, part of the national culture, it seems for macho men to treat women as their playthings. 

Imagine that this problem was brought to the attention of authorities before the killing.... 

She did say she dropped the case against him after being "compensated". What are the authorities supposed to do then?

However, Zaila Sugrim later told Kaieteur News that she had dropped the matter after being compensated.

GTAngler
GTAngler posted:
VishMahabir posted:

It is one thing about the cowards. But the issue is a societal one, part of the national culture, it seems for macho men to treat women as their playthings. 

Imagine that this problem was brought to the attention of authorities before the killing.... 

She did say she dropped the case against him after being "compensated". What are the authorities supposed to do then?

However, Zaila Sugrim later told Kaieteur News that she had dropped the matter after being compensated.

Any kind of abuse is a legal matter, it's the duty of the law/Police to investigate and file charges. That death could have avoided if the police had done their work.

K
kp posted:
GTAngler posted:
VishMahabir posted:

It is one thing about the cowards. But the issue is a societal one, part of the national culture, it seems for macho men to treat women as their playthings. 

Imagine that this problem was brought to the attention of authorities before the killing.... 

She did say she dropped the case against him after being "compensated". What are the authorities supposed to do then?

However, Zaila Sugrim later told Kaieteur News that she had dropped the matter after being compensated.

Any kind of abuse is a legal matter, it's the duty of the law/Police to investigate and file charges. That death could have avoided if the police had done their work.

Not if she doesn't press charges. The most they can do is give him a warning unless they, the police, witnessed the abuse. In that case the police officer can be a witness and then it becomes State vs....

GTAngler
GTAngler posted:
VishMahabir posted:

It is one thing about the cowards. But the issue is a societal one, part of the national culture, it seems for macho men to treat women as their playthings. 

Imagine that this problem was brought to the attention of authorities before the killing.... 

She did say she dropped the case against him after being "compensated". What are the authorities supposed to do then?

However, Zaila Sugrim later told Kaieteur News that she had dropped the matter after being compensated.

I think the should video tape  the interviews and proceed with signed statements from the victims.

Mitwah
yuji22 posted:

Bai Mits, our police force is incompetent. It needs a non partisan, non political overhaul. 

You talking pup, Yuji. Why didn't you joined the force before making such a statement? I have family in the police force unlike you.

FM

There is a lot of circumstantial evidence against him.  The reporter’s testimony will be key, her family/kids need to testify to establish motive. 

I am speechless that he once tried to kill her and she did not get him for attempted murder. 😕

 

alena06
Prince posted:
yuji22 posted:

Bai Mits, our police force is incompetent. It needs a non partisan, non political overhaul. 

You talking pup, Yuji. Why didn't you joined the force before making such a statement? I have family in the police force unlike you.

Uneducated Indians had no other alternatives but to joined the force. I know Indian with A level GCE applied to join the cadet but was told they too small, under weight or short. Another way to discriminate by race, remember the senior officers were blacks they choose to bring their own. Getting into the forces was a privilege,  just train and get paid,free housing and food. It was an area to enforce dominance.  So don't ask why Indians did not join the forces many tried and  failed it was a family affair or a political party referral, who you know.

K
Django posted:
Sheik101 posted:
Django posted:

Another brutal murder, time to bring back the hangman. What Prezi Granger waiting for ? take a cue from former deceased President Hoyte.

Aaah yes. ...The hangman. Very popular guy . I wonder who it was that ended his reign. Probably kicking himself in tbe balls now.

Guyana’s last execution was back in 1997

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...eath-penalty-remains

As of November 2018, there were 17 people on death row in Guyana.

https://www.deathpenaltyworldw...country=Guyana#a18-2

I say bring back the death penalty. Send a strong message to criminals that once you're found guilty, you'll pay the price.

However, Carib will argue extensively against this. 

Sheik101
kp posted:
Prince posted:
yuji22 posted:

Bai Mits, our police force is incompetent. It needs a non partisan, non political overhaul. 

You talking pup, Yuji. Why didn't you joined the force before making such a statement? I have family in the police force unlike you.

Uneducated Indians had no other alternatives but to joined the force. I know Indian with A level GCE applied to join the cadet but was told they too small, under weight or short. Another way to discriminate by race, remember the senior officers were blacks they choose to bring their own. Getting into the forces was a privilege,  just train and get paid,free housing and food. It was an area to enforce dominance.  So don't ask why Indians did not join the forces many tried and  failed it was a family affair or a political party referral, who you know.

BS. I have no A-levels and am proud to have been a GDF officer via officer cadet course at CUPOCS. Is there discrimination? Of course. But racism is rampant in both races. No one stops Indos from entering the military, para-military, or law enforcement. How long were you in the military and which arm were you in?

A
Mitwah posted:
She was said to have been last seen alive on Saturday, when she entered her husband’s vehicle.

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Why, why, why??? Why go anywhere close to someone who has already physically abused you?? At least she could've had a blade hidden in her hand or something.

A
antabanta posted:
Mitwah posted:
She was said to have been last seen alive on Saturday, when she entered her husband’s vehicle.

Source:

Why, why, why??? Why go anywhere close to someone who has already physically abused you?? At least she could've had a blade hidden in her hand or something.

Anta, emotions play a big part hea.

My sister was killed in this way, after a long separation.

These AHs ask for forgiveness, until they get  the woman in a compromising situation  to kill her.

Tola
antabanta posted:
Mitwah posted:
She was said to have been last seen alive on Saturday, when she entered her husband’s vehicle.

Source:

Why, why, why??? Why go anywhere close to someone who has already physically abused you?? At least she could've had a blade hidden in her hand or something.

Tells me she still loved him and had hopes.   They have 5 kids. 

FM
Tola posted:
 

Anta, emotions play a big part hea.

My sister was killed in this way, after a long separation.

These AHs ask for forgiveness, until they get  the woman in a compromising situation  to kill her.

Tols, welcome back. Strange messages were coming from your nick. 

FM
antabanta posted:
kp posted:
Prince posted:
yuji22 posted:

Bai Mits, our police force is incompetent. It needs a non partisan, non political overhaul. 

You talking pup, Yuji. Why didn't you joined the force before making such a statement? I have family in the police force unlike you.

Uneducated Indians had no other alternatives but to joined the force. I know Indian with A level GCE applied to join the cadet but was told they too small, under weight or short. Another way to discriminate by race, remember the senior officers were blacks they choose to bring their own. Getting into the forces was a privilege,  just train and get paid,free housing and food. It was an area to enforce dominance.  So don't ask why Indians did not join the forces many tried and  failed it was a family affair or a political party referral, who you know.

BS. I have no A-levels and am proud to have been a GDF officer via officer cadet course at CUPOCS. Is there discrimination? Of course. But racism is rampant in both races. No one stops Indos from entering the military, para-military, or law enforcement. How long were you in the military and which arm were you in?

I am educated, didn't had to take that route.

K

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