The farmers expressed their disappointment at not being given tax exemptions on their vehicles, equipment and materials.

What a bunch of crooks. Why should they get tax exemption? Which country gives tax exemption to rice farmers of the kind they are asking for?

This, he said, is not necessary for all cases; however. “In the case of a tractor, it can be used for many purposes, so Customs may need proof that you are really a farmer.”

What a fool, a tractor is a farm equipment. For T to call farmers crooks, these people put food on the table, I know for a fact the Canadian government gives subsidies and tax exemptions to farmers, in England the government pays farmers to keep their land as farm lands even if is not used, so they are not tempted to sell to developers.

Mr.T posted:

The farmers expressed their disappointment at not being given tax exemptions on their vehicles, equipment and materials.

What a bunch of crooks. Why should they get tax exemption? Which country gives tax exemption to rice farmers of the kind they are asking for?

What a jackass of a question!

The rice farmers should get temporary VAT and selected import duty waivers.

A subsidy they cannot get.

caribny posted:

The rice farmers should get temporary VAT and selected import duty waivers.

A subsidy they cannot get.

what's a subsidy?

the wheels of government turn with taxes. if the government starts discriminating between rice farmers, and other types of businesses and individuals, then the burden on tax is placed on those who are forced to pay tax. That creates an unequal society.

kp posted:

This, he said, is not necessary for all cases; however. “In the case of a tractor, it can be used for many purposes, so Customs may need proof that you are really a farmer.”

What a fool, a tractor is a farm equipment. For T to call farmers crooks, these people put food on the table, I know for a fact the Canadian government gives subsidies and tax exemptions to farmers, in England the government pays farmers to keep their land as farm lands even if is not used, so they are not tempted to sell to developers.

I challenge you to provide evidence that the UK government pays farmers to keep their land as farm land, even if it is not used. In your haste to justify the case for PPP farmers to get even richer, you resort to peddling lies. Next thing you gonna say that you are a legitimate child.

Any industry which uses local resources to generate pecious hard currency which fuels the rest of the economy deserves to be subsidized. This is true for the agro economy which has to compete with products dumped on the world market by farmer subsidized in developed nations. n

Mr.T posted:

the wheels of government turn with taxes. if the government starts discriminating between rice farmers, and other types of businesses and individuals, then the burden on tax is placed on those who are forced to pay tax. That creates an unequal society.

You mouth "bin in you kaka hole" when the Linden residents were burning down buildings to keep their subsidies for electricity. Who is paying for their "free" electricity? As I said before, you seem to be ground zero for the zika virus.

ba$eman posted:

Any industry which uses local resources to generate pecious hard currency which fuels the rest of the economy deserves to be subsidized. This is true for the agro economy which has to compete with products dumped on the world market by farmer subsidized in developed nations. n

Bhai Base, these AFC/PNC idiots for politicians do not understand basic economics. Guyana will have a shortage of foreign currency in a few years and the dollar will slide downwards.

These chaps are clueless.

Subsidies are not a bad thing but try telling that to dunces and they will have no clue about what you are talking about.

Guyana is finished.

skeldon_man posted:

Mr.T posted:

the wheels of government turn with taxes. if the government starts discriminating between rice farmers, and other types of businesses and individuals, then the burden on tax is placed on those who are forced to pay tax. That creates an unequal society.

You mouth "bin in you kaka hole" when the Linden residents were burning down buildings to keep their subsidies for electricity. Who is paying for their "free" electricity? As I said before, you seem to be ground zero for the zika virus.

Is Linden connected to the GT electricity grid? No it is not. Is the electricity supply in Linden provided by central government? No it is not. So why are you so jealous about the benefits the system in Linden brings to the local community?

Mr.T posted:

skeldon_man posted:

Mr.T posted:

the wheels of government turn with taxes. if the government starts discriminating between rice farmers, and other types of businesses and individuals, then the burden on tax is placed on those who are forced to pay tax. That creates an unequal society.

You mouth "bin in you kaka hole" when the Linden residents were burning down buildings to keep their subsidies for electricity. Who is paying for their "free" electricity? As I said before, you seem to be ground zero for the zika virus.

Is Linden connected to the GT electricity grid? No it is not. Is the electricity supply in Linden provided by central government? No it is not. So why are you so jealous about the benefits the system in Linden brings to the local community?

This jackass cannot tell me that no taxpayers' money are not going to support functioning of this electricity operation. You are such a fool. Go pity yourself now.

case for PPP farmers to get even richer,

The vast majority of the farmers are struggling, many even landless.

Under Jagdeo there was a massive concentration of land ownership in the rice industry.

skeldon_man posted:

 

This jackass cannot tell me that no taxpayers' money are not going to support functioning of this electricity operation. You are such a fool. Go pity yourself now.

Yes here is the brown bai KKK at work. Puny subsidies to Linden, but that's wrong because black man lazy.

Massive subsidies to Guysuco, which has received over US $ 500 million (1/2 a billion), and that isn't as its for "hard working" Indians.

You all are caricatures of something.

ba$eman posted:

Any industry which uses local resources to generate pecious hard currency which fuels the rest of the economy deserves to be subsidized. This is true for the agro economy which has to compete with products dumped on the world market by farmer subsidized in developed nations. n

So why not subsidize the small gold miners?  No you wouldn't want this as too many blacks will benefit.

caribny posted:

ba$eman posted:

Any industry which uses local resources to generate pecious hard currency which fuels the rest of the economy deserves to be subsidized. This is true for the agro economy which has to compete with products dumped on the world market by farmer subsidized in developed nations. n

So why not subsidize the small gold miners?  No you wouldn't want this as too many blacks will benefit.

The small miners destroying the environment. Where are all the extravagant plans of the PNC when they were in the opposition? Why are they not peddling these plans to the people instead of worrying about sporting?

Drugb posted:

The small miners destroying the environment.

You weren't saying that when the PPP was in power, and accepting money from Norway to protect the rainforest. Is what made you wake up suddenly and cause you to realize that damage is being done?

Drugb posted:

 

The small miners destroying the environment.

The PPP benefitted immensely from these small miners, as they contributed significantly to the increased exports, and higher economic performance.  And of course gov't revenues.

Certainly sugar didn't, swallowing bailouts as greedily as a crack ho does crack.

Did you show concern about the environment when the PPP was trying to entice major gold companies into Guyana.  The very scale of their operations ensures destruction.

Mr.T posted:

Drugb posted:

The small miners destroying the environment.

You weren't saying that when the PPP was in power, and accepting money from Norway to protect the rainforest. Is what made you wake up suddenly and cause you to realize that damage is being done?

Its the notion that a black dominated government is back is what gives druggie nightmares.  He said that blacks used to beat him up so he "frikken blackman".

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

 

The small miners destroying the environment.

The PPP benefitted immensely from these small miners, as they contributed significantly to the increased exports, and higher economic performance.  And of course gov't revenues.

Certainly sugar didn't, swallowing bailouts as greedily as a crack ho does crack.

Did you show concern about the environment when the PPP was trying to entice major gold companies into Guyana.  The very scale of their operations ensures destruction.

Nonsense, it is the big operations that provide the bulk of the yield. Small miners barely break even due to inefficient methods of extraction, small scale operation and lack of mineral rich claims. 

yuji22 posted:

ba$eman posted:

Any industry which uses local resources to generate pecious hard currency which fuels the rest of the economy deserves to be subsidized. This is true for the agro economy which has to compete with products dumped on the world market by farmer subsidized in developed nations. n

Bhai Base, these AFC/PNC idiots for politicians do not understand basic economics. Guyana will have a shortage of foreign currency in a few years and the dollar will slide downwards.

These chaps are clueless.

Subsidies are not a bad thing but try telling that to dunces and they will have no clue about what you are talking about.

Guyana is finished.

These are truly stupid people!!

caribny posted:

ba$eman posted:

Any industry which uses local resources to generate pecious hard currency which fuels the rest of the economy deserves to be subsidized. This is true for the agro economy which has to compete with products dumped on the world market by farmer subsidized in developed nations. n

So why not subsidize the small gold miners?  No you wouldn't want this as too many blacks will benefit.

You fool, you should stick to running salt goods store front.  There is a huge difference to mining gold and growing food.  But then again, what would you know!!  You can hardly understand how the food gets on your table!!

ba$eman posted:

yuji22 posted:

ba$eman posted:

Any industry which uses local resources to generate pecious hard currency which fuels the rest of the economy deserves to be subsidized. This is true for the agro economy which has to compete with products dumped on the world market by farmer subsidized in developed nations. n

Bhai Base, these AFC/PNC idiots for politicians do not understand basic economics. Guyana will have a shortage of foreign currency in a few years and the dollar will slide downwards.

These chaps are clueless.

Subsidies are not a bad thing but try telling that to dunces and they will have no clue about what you are talking about.

Guyana is finished.

These are truly stupid people!!

Where in the world does this model work for poor nations! These industries should only be subsidized in terms of tax incentives but the government ought to keep out of the industry. Let them take control of their economic responsibilities. If rice can grown and sold for a profit, private brokers would gladly buy and distribute.

The government should only be a part of it as a regulatory body. You creeps are inventing all sorts of rationale to keep these industry afloat. It is a free market. Subsidies are only necessary in that it facilitates a process. It should not be incentive to grow a crop that would inevitably lost money.

That is bad business practice. Subsidies should not be as a price margin to farmers. This is taking money from hardworking taxpayers and passing it on to losers. Either you can cut cost and increase profit margin or you sell your plot and get out of the business and seek alternative work.

Another PNC clown:

Murderer of the Rice Industry.

Danyael posted:

ba$eman posted:

yuji22 posted:

ba$eman posted:

Any industry which uses local resources to generate pecious hard currency which fuels the rest of the economy deserves to be subsidized. This is true for the agro economy which has to compete with products dumped on the world market by farmer subsidized in developed nations. n

Bhai Base, these AFC/PNC idiots for politicians do not understand basic economics. Guyana will have a shortage of foreign currency in a few years and the dollar will slide downwards.

These chaps are clueless.

Subsidies are not a bad thing but try telling that to dunces and they will have no clue about what you are talking about.

Guyana is finished.

These are truly stupid people!!

Where in the world does this model work for poor nations! These industries should only be subsidized in terms of tax incentives but the government ought to keep out of the industry. Let them take control of their economic responsibilities. If rice can grown and sold for a profit, private brokers would gladly buy and distribute.

The government should only be a part of it as a regulatory body. You creeps are inventing all sorts of rationale to keep these industry afloat. It is a free market. Subsidies are only necessary in that it facilitates a process. It should not be incentive to grow a crop that would inevitably lost money.

That is bad business practice. Subsidies should not be as a price margin to farmers. This is taking money from hardworking taxpayers and passing it on to losers. Either you can cut cost and increase profit margin or you sell your plot and get out of the business and seek alternative work.

You are too dumb for me to start here!

ba$eman posted:

caribny posted:

ba$eman posted:

Any industry which uses local resources to generate pecious hard currency which fuels the rest of the economy deserves to be subsidized. This is true for the agro economy which has to compete with products dumped on the world market by farmer subsidized in developed nations. n

So why not subsidize the small gold miners?  No you wouldn't want this as too many blacks will benefit.

You fool, you should stick to running salt goods store front.  There is a huge difference to mining gold and growing food.  But then again, what would you know!!  You can hardly understand how the food gets on your table!!

Growing food that has a market is not the same as growing food that will lose money. And what do you know that you suddenly elevate your ignorant propositions as wisdom?  We cannot subsidize losing businesses. To what ends?

ba$eman posted:

Danyael posted:

ba$eman posted:

yuji22 posted:

ba$eman posted:

Any industry which uses local resources to generate pecious hard currency which fuels the rest of the economy deserves to be subsidized. This is true for the agro economy which has to compete with products dumped on the world market by farmer subsidized in developed nations. n

Bhai Base, these AFC/PNC idiots for politicians do not understand basic economics. Guyana will have a shortage of foreign currency in a few years and the dollar will slide downwards.

These chaps are clueless.

Subsidies are not a bad thing but try telling that to dunces and they will have no clue about what you are talking about.

Guyana is finished.

These are truly stupid people!!

Where in the world does this model work for poor nations! These industries should only be subsidized in terms of tax incentives but the government ought to keep out of the industry. Let them take control of their economic responsibilities. If rice can grown and sold for a profit, private brokers would gladly buy and distribute.

The government should only be a part of it as a regulatory body. You creeps are inventing all sorts of rationale to keep these industry afloat. It is a free market. Subsidies are only necessary in that it facilitates a process. It should not be incentive to grow a crop that would inevitably lost money.

That is bad business practice. Subsidies should not be as a price margin to farmers. This is taking money from hardworking taxpayers and passing it on to losers. Either you can cut cost and increase profit margin or you sell your plot and get out of the business and seek alternative work.

You are too dumb for me to start here!

Typical answer from an ass who never read an economics text book but grabs on to idiots in the guyanatimes as your mentor. It is completely unsustainable for a poor basket case economy to subsidize a loosing proposition. The farmers have to cut cost proportion to loss or get out of the business.

yuji22 posted:

Another PNC clown:

 

Murderer of the Rice Industry.

The people who killed the industry are those who skimmed off its profits in the Petrocarbide deals to build their dachas on the Atlantic coast in pradovillle.

Danyael posted:

yuji22 posted:

Another PNC clown:

 

Murderer of the Rice Industry.

The people who killed the industry are those who skimmed off its profits in the Petrocarbide deals to build their dachas on the Atlantic coast in pradovillle.

Prove it or just shut the nonsense up !

Talk is cheap, and stop the nonsense now ! 

Prove it NOW ! 

Prove what? the Obvious? The petrocarbide deal help create the hope canal, shipping  and petroleum magnates and rice farmers are still poor. What else proof do you need?

Danyael posted:

Prove what? the Obvious? The petrocarbide deal help create the hope canal, shipping  and petroleum magnates and rice farmers are still poor. What else proof do you need?

Again, Prove it or just keep your trash inside.

Yes, Prove it !!!!!

Talk is cheap !!!!!!

You have reduced yourself to defending a bunch of conmen, liars and crooks.

yuji22 posted:

Danyael posted:

Prove what? the Obvious? The petrocarbide deal help create the hope canal, shipping  and petroleum magnates and rice farmers are still poor. What else proof do you need?

Again, Prove it or just keep your trash inside.

Yes, Prove it !!!!!

Talk is cheap !!!!!!

You have reduced yourself to defending a bunch of conmen, liars and crooks.

Are you daft? The PPP used the petrocarbide fund to bail out CLICO, subsidize the building of the hope canal, to create two other satellite industries on the backs of farmers who are still poor and you ask for proof? You are indeed a moron.

Keep your trash inside.

Prove it or just keep your trash inside.

Who are these AFC/PNC clowns trying to fool ?

The clowns that they hired for auditors have proven ZERO. Yes ZERO.

Talk is cheap !!!!!

Only idiots believed the AFC/PNC crooks and conmen !!!!!!!!

Danyael posted:

yuji22 posted:

Danyael posted:

Prove what? the Obvious? The petrocarbide deal help create the hope canal, shipping  and petroleum magnates and rice farmers are still poor. What else proof do you need?

Again, Prove it or just keep your trash inside.

Yes, Prove it !!!!!

Talk is cheap !!!!!!

You have reduced yourself to defending a bunch of conmen, liars and crooks.

Are you daft? The PPP used the petrocarbide fund to bail out CLICO, subsidize the building of the hope canal, to create two other satellite industries on the backs of farmers who are still poor and you ask for proof? You are indeed a moron.

That he is on both counts.

Drugb posted:

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Nonsense, it is the big operations that provide the bulk of the yield. Small miners barely break even due to inefficient methods of extraction, small scale operation and lack of mineral rich claims. 

The bigger guys destroy the environment even more than the smaller guys, because of their scale.

Note that the smaller guys don't have the entitled attitude of the sugar workers.  They do their thing, and if it doesn't work, they move on.

Sugar workers are quite comfortable that 1/2 BILLION US dollars has been squandered on Guysuco over the past 10 years.

More trash talk. Prove your nonsense or please keep your trash inside.

ba$eman posted:

.  There is a huge difference to mining gold and growing food.  .

Let me educate you. Sugar isn't food. You scream that it should be subsidized to the tune of 1/2 billion US dollars over a 10 year period.

I am quite comfortable with tax and duty concessions being given to rice farmers.  Technical assistance and assistance with drainage is also suitable.

I see no reason for subsidies beyond this.  It would be nice if the money lenders who fund these farmers at usurious rates, in the hope that they default and so lose their lands, became proper humans, but of course you say nothing of this.

yuji22 posted:

More trash talk. Prove your nonsense or please keep your trash inside.

Do you know what is a deductive conclusion? Should I map it out in symbolic logic for you?

yuji22 posted:

More trash talk. Prove your nonsense or please keep your trash inside.

Oh go cry in your rusty cup because you can no longer scream "ahbe pan tap, blackman time done".