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Coalition talks moving “slow” between APNU/AFC – Greenidge

January 29, 2015 5:32 pm Category: latest news A+ / A-

 

By Fareeza Haniff

APNU's Shadow Finance Minister, Carl Greenidge.

APNU’s Shadow Finance Minister, Carl Greenidge.

[www.inewsguyana.com] – Chief Negotiator for A Partnership for National Unity (APNU), Carl Greenidge says the pro-democracy alliance talks with the Alliance For Change (AFC) is moving “relatively slowly.”

Greenidge told some members of the media on Thursday, January 29 that there is expected to be some “acceleration” in the coming week as discussions continue with the AFC.

He explained that the process is a difficult one but the Parties are committed to concluding the talks.

“I am hoping that in the coming week, you will see an acceleration in both the engagements and in the progress on that front. It is not an easy arena and I don’t want to give the impression that the acceleration itself will mean that you’re going to resolve the issue because coalition or alliance type talks are notoriously difficult especially where Parties are imbalanced in terms of their relative sizes in the electorate proportionately and where they have constituencies that overlap. It is something of a difficulty,” Greenidge said.

He did not want to pronounce further on the matter, citing an agreement between both sides not to prejudice the progress of the discussions.

Leader of the APNU, David Granger had noted that the coalition talks are expected to be concluded in three weeks time and that a seven member team has been appointed by the APNU to lead the discussions.

The AFC has also appointed its team, headed by General Secretary, David Patterson. Other members include Basil Williams, who is representing the Peoples National Congress Reform (PNCR), Sydney Allicock representing the Guyana Action Party (GAP), Rupert Roopnaraine of the Working Peoples Alliance (WPA), Keith Scott for the National Front Alliance (NFA) and George Norton, who will be representing APNU’s shadow Cabinet.

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Originally Posted by Conscience:

"Shaitaan" you've added a new word to your vocabulary, that's nice, you're like a kid who found a new toy. 

 

The Guyanese Populace does not take kindly to those puerile sentiments, inter alia

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The A.F.C goons are cornered, they now desperately tries to derail any thread which shines light on the reality.

 

The Guyanese Populace will beat yuh rass and yuh guh get nuff hambugga in jail

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Don't hold your breath expecting an A.F.C/A.P.N.U win, the answer would be obvious. The P.P.P/C would be the clear winner.

 

Yes, the Guyanese Populace will hambugga the PPP/C good an prapa come May the 11th

FM

No more cuts to Amalia Falls, no more cuts to the airport expansion project,no more cuts to G.P.L, no more cuts to N.C.N/GINA....etc.

 

Budget 2015 would pass "uncut" in 11th Parliament.

FM

Conscience, there's a big difference between coalition talks in "limbo" and coalition talks moving "slow".

No reasonable observer can expect speedy agreement in such talks.

Let them take their time and hammer out a solid and mutually acceptable agreement.

They have a big battle to fight on May 11 and win they must.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Coalition talks moving “slow” between APNU/AFC – Greenidge

January 29, 2015 5:32 pm Category: latest news A+ / A-

 

By Fareeza Haniff

APNU's Shadow Finance Minister, Carl Greenidge.

APNU’s Shadow Finance Minister, Carl Greenidge.

[www.inewsguyana.com] – Chief Negotiator for A Partnership for National Unity (APNU), Carl Greenidge says the pro-democracy alliance talks with the Alliance For Change (AFC) is moving “relatively slowly.”

Greenidge told some members of the media on Thursday, January 29 that there is expected to be some “acceleration” in the coming week as discussions continue with the AFC.

He explained that the process is a difficult one but the Parties are committed to concluding the talks.

“I am hoping that in the coming week, you will see an acceleration in both the engagements and in the progress on that front. It is not an easy arena and I don’t want to give the impression that the acceleration itself will mean that you’re going to resolve the issue because coalition or alliance type talks are notoriously difficult especially where Parties are imbalanced in terms of their relative sizes in the electorate proportionately and where they have constituencies that overlap. It is something of a difficulty,” Greenidge said.

He did not want to pronounce further on the matter, citing an agreement between both sides not to prejudice the progress of the discussions.

Leader of the APNU, David Granger had noted that the coalition talks are expected to be concluded in three weeks time and that a seven member team has been appointed by the APNU to lead the discussions.

The AFC has also appointed its team, headed by General Secretary, David Patterson. Other members include Basil Williams, who is representing the Peoples National Congress Reform (PNCR), Sydney Allicock representing the Guyana Action Party (GAP), Rupert Roopnaraine of the Working Peoples Alliance (WPA), Keith Scott for the National Front Alliance (NFA) and George Norton, who will be representing APNU’s shadow Cabinet.

I was told that the APNU has accepted Moses Nagamootoo, they are battling on who gets which Ministry.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

No more cuts to Amalia Falls, no more cuts to the airport expansion project,no more cuts to G.P.L,no more cuts to N.C.N/GINA....etc.

 

Budget 2015 would pass "uncut" in 11th Parliament.

Propagating too much propaganda.

Django
Last edited by Django

AFC is demanding equal Ministries and the APNU has rejected that.

 

The AFC got to calm down, they getting besides themselves.

 

The APNU has already given up the Presidency and this is political advantage.  The APNU got 40%, AFC only got 10%.

FM
Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:

AFC is demanding equal Ministries and the APNU has rejected that.

 

The AFC got to calm down, they getting besides themselves.

 

The APNU has already given up the Presidency and this is political advantage.  The APNU got 40%, AFC only got 10%.

Brian....they will work it out give them some time.

Django
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The pre-election coalition is a dead horse, it makes no sense striking it.

 

eh eh bai!!! looko story hey. No more "collating" or "coallating" but coalition now.

 

Abbe dunce coolie larn wan new word

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

Conscience, there's a big difference between coalition talks in "limbo" and coalition talks moving "slow".

No reasonable observer can expect speedy agreement in such talks.

Let them take their time and hammer out a solid and mutually acceptable agreement.

They have a big battle to fight on May 11 and win they must.

 

Don't worry with them.  Janet woke up from her grave to holler at Jagdeo and Ramotar for reducing the PPP to the point where a loss to the PNC isn't an impossibility.  Knowing that Nagamootoo is lustful for revenge they are terrified that a PPP loss could mean jail. 

 

Even if Granger isn't hasty to do this, knowing full well that it could open up a can of worms involving certain PNC officials, Nagamootoo has no such concern.  Even his enemies have never accused him of being corrupt.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

It makes no sense fighting the truth, the A.F.C main reason for entering the opposition's lair to attempt dealing is for their very own political survival.

If you need to believe this to continue to be happy, by all means.

 

Last time you all screamed "60%" and boasted that you would beat the PNC in Linden and Buxton.

 

This year you whisper "51%".

FM

It was a known fact that the P.P.P was a victim of their own success at the 2011 polls, the party has since then learned from its mistakes, and is fully geared this time around. A majority most definitely awaits the P.P.P/C.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

It was a known fact that the P.P.P was a victim of their own success at the 2011 polls, the party has since then learned from its mistakes, and is fully geared this time around. A majority most definitely awaits the P.P.P/C.

 

LMAO LMAO

 

The PNC was also a victim of its own "success" in 1992 as well

 

I doan know if you jackasses can afford another such "success" come May

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The pre-election coalition is a dead horse, it makes no sense striking it.

You seem to be bit scared here Conscience.

Looks like you might have to move to snow shovelling place.

Tola
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

Conscience, there's a big difference between coalition talks in "limbo" and coalition talks moving "slow".

No reasonable observer can expect speedy agreement in such talks.

Let them take their time and hammer out a solid and mutually acceptable agreement.

They have a big battle to fight on May 11 and win they must.

 

Don't worry with them.  Janet woke up from her grave to holler at Jagdeo and Ramotar for reducing the PPP to the point where a loss to the PNC isn't an impossibility.  Knowing that Nagamootoo is lustful for revenge they are terrified that a PPP loss could mean jail. 

 

Even if Granger isn't hasty to do this, knowing full well that it could open up a can of worms involving certain PNC officials, Nagamootoo has no such concern.  Even his enemies have never accused him of being corrupt.

A coalition could have a serious backlash for Granger. He should have sound out his support base before venturing. Vanessa Kisson and Sharma could hamper the coalition at the polls. 

 

Guyana should always have a strong Third Party. What we have here is the PNC gobbling up the AFC. In 1992, the PPP gobbled up GUARD. Before all of this, the PNC gobbled up TUF.

 

The largest block of voters are the Christians. And they embody every race of people in Guyana. Perhaps, it is time for that approach to the electorate. Hopefully, they should have principles.

 

A combination of individuals in the PNC and AFC DOES not adequately represent the citizenry of Guyana. Too many elitist.Too many lawyers who compromise their ethics. Examine the issue of the Hughes.

 

The country needs to be rescued. AND I DO NOT SEE NAGAMOOTOO DOING IT. There will be disagreements-and Moses do not have will power to buck the PNC. He couldn't challenge Janet, Jagdeo or Ramotar.

 

If there must be a coalition, then the Presidential Candidate must not be either from the PNC or the AFC. If the group of politicians want to rescue the country, then they must examine EVERYTHING. 

 

An unfamiliar Presidential Candidate will give the electorate a fresh look at the coalition. Possibly generate more interest in the new PC. That is more like wanting a CHANGE.  

S
Last edited by seignet
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The pre-election coalition is a dead horse, it makes no sense striking it.

The same dead horse you're scared of and spend sleepless nights worrying about.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The pre-election coalition is a dead horse, it makes no sense striking it.

The same dead horse you're scared of and spend sleepless nights worrying about.

 

I am watching the coalition talks with keen interest. It can become a game changer.

 

I hope that talks fall apart otherwise it can become a very tight race and a nasty campaign.

 

Anyway, our beloved Guyana is becoming an exciting political arena. The PPP will still secure a majority despite the efforts of a coalition between the AFC and PNC.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The pre-election coalition is a dead horse, it makes no sense striking it.

The same dead horse you're scared of and spend sleepless nights worrying about.

 

I am watching the coalition talks with keen interest. It can become a game changer.

 

I hope that talks fall apart otherwise it can become a very tight race and a nasty campaign.

 

Anyway, our beloved Guyana is becoming an exciting political arena. The PPP will still secure a majority despite the efforts of a coalition between the AFC and PNC.

The campaign wouldn't be nasty if Ramotar keeps his promise and campaign on the PPP's "track record."

Granger is a decent man and he will predictably deal with the PPP's failure on policy issues and the corruption bugbear.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The pre-election coalition is a dead horse, it makes no sense striking it.

The same dead horse you're scared of and spend sleepless nights worrying about.

 

I am watching the coalition talks with keen interest. It can become a game changer.

 

I hope that talks fall apart otherwise it can become a very tight race and a nasty campaign.

 

Anyway, our beloved Guyana is becoming an exciting political arena. The PPP will still secure a majority despite the efforts of a coalition between the AFC and PNC.

The campaign wouldn't be nasty if Ramotar keeps his promise and campaign on the PPP's "track record."

Granger is a decent man and he will predictably deal with the PPP's failure on policy issues and the corruption bugbear.

 

I do not rust the PNC given their past record of violence. Let us wait and see.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The A.F.C/A.P.N.U are going down a road that leads to nowhere as it relates to their "secret talks".

who build this road BK or the man that run away with the tax payers money flip

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The A.F.C/A.P.N.U are going down a road that leads to nowhere as it relates to their "secret talks".

So says Conscience, the fly on the wall.

Once a latrine fly, always a latrine fly. You can smell the kaka that he has covered himself with in every word he types. As they say: if it smells like shit, looks like, shit, then it is shit.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by Mr.T:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The A.F.C/A.P.N.U are going down a road that leads to nowhere as it relates to their "secret talks".

So says Conscience, the fly on the wall.

Once a latrine fly, always a latrine fly. You can smell the kaka that he has covered himself with in every word he types. As they say: if it smells like shit, looks like, shit, then it is shit.

bai i hear about all kind of fly but a shit fly,only the ppp can invent such a fly

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The A.F.C goons are cornered, they now desperately tries to derail any thread which shines light on the reality.

No one is trying to derail your thread. Your message is coming across clearly; the opposition are not finding common ground on which they can unite their platform.

 

I do not know what is wrong with them not finding common ground. It is clear were the case reverse and any were seeking to find common ground with the PPP they would encounter surmountable disagreements.

 

Just as there is no necessity for them to agree with the PPP unless they want to sublimate their heart felt opinions ( what ever these may be) to PPP's; then these people have a right to disagree. Get over it. There is no political coin to mint. Disagreements with the status quo or with others are the reasons parties exist!

FM

The electorate would never allow history to repeat itself, the events that led up the the 1964 elections and its outcome, would never repeat itself in Guyana. The voters would never such to occur...never again,never again.never again!.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The pre-election coalition is a dead horse, it makes no sense striking it.

The same dead horse you're scared of and spend sleepless nights worrying about.

 

I am watching the coalition talks with keen interest. It can become a game changer.

 

I hope that talks fall apart otherwise it can become a very tight race and a nasty campaign.

 

Anyway, our beloved Guyana is becoming an exciting political arena. The PPP will still secure a majority despite the efforts of a coalition between the AFC and PNC.

The campaign wouldn't be nasty if Ramotar keeps his promise and campaign on the PPP's "track record."

Granger is a decent man and he will predictably deal with the PPP's failure on policy issues and the corruption bugbear.

 

I do not rust the PNC given their past record of violence. Let us wait and see.

Most of us don't trust the PPP given their past and present record of violence, corruption and a myriad of creepy and shadowy behaviousr.  We'll wait and see them grovel.

cain
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The electorate would never allow history to repeat itself, the events that led up the the 1964 elections and its outcome, would never repeat itself in Guyana. The voters would never such to occur...never again,never again.never again!.

I do not know how old you were in '64 but I was a toddler. Most of the young people do not have a reference outside what is their current experience and it is from that they will form an opinion. To that end they will test the PPP and find them wanting.

FM

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