A sincere apology to Raphael Trotman

Wow! what a loonnngggg apology. 

"The weakness in that juxtaposition is that I sought to elevate party competition to the call to vote race. This is where I believe the column fell down. This is where I believe my analysis went in the wrong direction."

Way too many Guyanese do same as Freddie. There is a group on this site who appear to be unable to see it any other way. Maybe they will learn something from Freddie's apology?!

Looks like the PNC boys visited Freddie in the dead of the night. During PPP time even with the feces throwing incident, Freddie never retracted any of his writings. Fear and intimidation under the PNC is growing strong.

I am still,interested in the meeting between trottman and granger. Obviously, the strategy they discussed was successful. Was it that trottman will hoodwink Ramjattan while granger will take complete control over the PNC through the deal he made with Corbin.

I agree. There was no race baiting in Trotman's speech. In fact, it was very good as he linked old Biblical references to unity vs disunity.

What was the scheme in the Bahamas?  That is more important because it is futuristic. 

As for Trotman returning to the PNC, he never left. He had multitudes of problems with the AFC indo component. Perhaps, that was the discussions in Nassau.

After the elections, review carefully to movements of Trotman in the shadow of Granger. I had my suspicions about that relationship.

The aim is to re-design the PNC with Trotman as the leader. It will happen. A political ploy and a good one.

As for Harmon, I would guess if Granger was to incomplete his tenure, then Harmon is to be THE MAN.

Right now the PNC is like a loose cannon, the aim is to define the Standard Operating Procedure. Jagdeo should tek notice on how intelligent people go about creating well structured political systems.

It is unfortunate that PNC will not have significant Indian participation, the racists element still predominant.

AS it is said, "what ever happened in the dark, eventually come to light." 

The revelation of Trotman was timely. I hope the Opposition forces clean up their act.

I still believe the WPA would be the party to govern in the  best interest of the country.

ksazma posted:

I agree. There was no race baiting in Trotman's speech. In fact, it was very good as he linked old Biblical references to unity vs disunity.

I agree, no race baiting. But the issue still remains....what was discussed at Nassau....it also means he never really left the PNC. 

Trotty was preaching to the Flock, the way Jim Jones spoke to his Flock. Cool Aid drinkers listens carefully.!!!

The ultimate aim of these types and these Toms like Caribbeanj and to a lesser extent Stormborn is to see the East Indians of Guyana disappear as a cultural and political force and ultimately a social force from the soil of Guyana. The myth that the East Indian never contributed anything of significance to Guyana runs deep. The myth that the East Indian is a common type of thief and sucker of economic blood from Guyana runs deep. It is similar to the myth of the Jew promoted by the Germanic people. We East Indian people have to instill in our children a sense of  pride in our history, We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children that they are members of a nation. We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children linguistic and cultural pride. Teach them to play a South Asian musical instrument and to learn Hindi or Sanskrit or Urdu. Teach them self defence by giving them the skills of a South Asian martial art. Teach the children to stop the Koolie crab dog fight up and embrace each other and the Dougla people ( as long as they stop carrying the slave master name) as brothers and sisters. It all helps them to achieve high self esteem and a sense of pride and identity. 

Prashad Bhai, In a Democracy even the ILLITERATE and IGNORANT has their voices heard!!!!!!!!!!!!

Prashad posted:

The ultimate aim of these types and these Toms like Caribbeanj and to a lesser extent Stormborn is to see the East Indians of Guyana disappear as a cultural and political force and ultimately a social force from the soil of Guyana. The myth that the East Indian never contributed anything of significance to Guyana runs deep. The myth that the East Indian is a common type of thief and sucker of economic blood from Guyana runs deep. It is similar to the myth of the Jew promoted by the Germanic people. We East Indian people have to instill in our children a sense of  pride in our history, We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children that they are members of a nation. We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children linguistic and cultural pride. Teach them to play a South Asian musical instrument and to learn Hindi or Sanskrit or Urdu. Teach them self defence by giving them the skills of a South Asian martial art. Teach the children to stop the Koolie crab dog fight up and embrace each other and the Dougla people ( as long as they stop carrying the slave master name) as brothers and sisters. It all helps them to achieve high self esteem and a sense of pride and identity. 

Write your own story. Do not presume me a source. You are a bigot with a slanted, distorted view of the world so our positions will always be diametric. How can you teach the kids language when you are a cripple in that discipline? Most indian kids gravitate to the Guitar and drums because their idea of musicality is completely different from yours. Sadly, Indians do not seem to consider formal training in music a premium. Very few study western music much less the more difficult Indian tradition. They also learn Karate and kung fu more than grappling and tazia. It is not who they are. They are not South Asian but of the western tradition like you though less stunted.

Prashad posted:

The ultimate aim of these types and these Toms like Caribbeanj and to a lesser extent Stormborn is to see the East Indians of Guyana disappear as a cultural and political force and ultimately a social force from the soil of Guyana. The myth that the East Indian never contributed anything of significance to Guyana runs deep. The myth that the East Indian is a common type of thief and sucker of economic blood from Guyana runs deep. It is similar to the myth of the Jew promoted by the Germanic people. We East Indian people have to instill in our children a sense of  pride in our history, We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children that they are members of a nation. We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children linguistic and cultural pride. Teach them to play a South Asian musical instrument and to learn Hindi or Sanskrit or Urdu. Teach them self defence by giving them the skills of a South Asian martial art. Teach the children to stop the Koolie crab dog fight up and embrace each other and the Dougla people ( as long as they stop carrying the slave master name) as brothers and sisters. It all helps them to achieve high self esteem and a sense of pride and identity. 

Po fella.

It shows my point. They all got the ultimate aim is the disappearance of the bloodsucker East Indian from the soil of Guyana 

Prashad posted:

It all helps them to achieve high self esteem and a sense of pride and identity. 

There are a lot of things you can do to boost your self-esteem other than declare war on another race. Have you tried exercise?

Nehru posted:

Prashad Bhai, In a Democracy even the ILLITERATE and IGNORANT has their voices heard!!!!!!!!!!!!

What above has he said relates to democracy moron? Do you just like to use words with no context to them? Please illustrate what in that entire paragraph spoke directly to democracy.

That silly fellow with his half made reality is trying to cripple Indian kids with his stunted view of what they should be. Thankfully the are on their own trajectory and away from the confused reality that fellow mapped out. Indian Kids ( and I have two) know who they are and where they are located in the world.

They have a country to which they belong embrace their multicultural bequeathal and are firmly located in the world where they are and without the confusing pull of a fabricated reality that exists only in the minds of tragically culturally stunted fools like this fellow.

Prashad posted:

It shows my point. They all got the ultimate aim is the disappearance of the bloodsucker East Indian from the soil of Guyana 

Some one was woefully neglectful of your education. Look about you. Indians are firmly connected to who they are and their world view. Every culture born in want develop skills to cope. If you see indian financial fecundity as a blood sucking heritage that is your loss.

No apology should have been made by FK. A seasoned politican is not going to make an out and out racist speech but may disguise it in coded words.

I will NOT explain anything to DUMMIES!!!!!!

Nehru posted:

I will NOT explain anything to DUMMIES!!!!!!

what dummies say when asked to explain

Prashad posted:

No apology should have been made by FK. A seasoned politican is not going to make an out and out racist speech but may disguise it in coded words.

Please explain or point to the evidence.

Stormborn posted:

Prashad posted:

The ultimate aim of these types and these Toms like Caribbeanj and to a lesser extent Stormborn is to see the East Indians of Guyana disappear as a cultural and political force and ultimately a social force from the soil of Guyana. The myth that the East Indian never contributed anything of significance to Guyana runs deep. The myth that the East Indian is a common type of thief and sucker of economic blood from Guyana runs deep. It is similar to the myth of the Jew promoted by the Germanic people. We East Indian people have to instill in our children a sense of  pride in our history, We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children that they are members of a nation. We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children linguistic and cultural pride. Teach them to play a South Asian musical instrument and to learn Hindi or Sanskrit or Urdu. Teach them self defence by giving them the skills of a South Asian martial art. Teach the children to stop the Koolie crab dog fight up and embrace each other and the Dougla people ( as long as they stop carrying the slave master name) as brothers and sisters. It all helps them to achieve high self esteem and a sense of pride and identity. 

Write your own story. Do not presume me a source. You are a bigot with a slanted, distorted view of the world so our positions will always be diametric. How can you teach the kids language when you are a cripple in that discipline? Most indian kids gravitate to the Guitar and drums because their idea of musicality is completely different from yours. Sadly, Indians do not seem to consider formal training in music a premium. Very few study western music much less the more difficult Indian tradition. They also learn Karate and kung fu more than grappling and tazia. It is not who they are. They are not South Asian but of the western tradition like you though less stunted.

Stormy,

Why don't you articulate the Amerindian problem and come with a solution since you love to talk like an expert on every matter. 

Nehru posted:

Prashad Bhai, In a Democracy even the ILLITERATE and IGNORANT has their voices heard!!!!!!!!!!!!

True dat, we encourage you an he both so we could get some good laff at your ignorance due to being too lazy to learn.

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Stormborn posted:

Stormy,

 

Why don't you articulate the Amerindian problem and come with a solution since you love to talk like an expert on every matter. 

I am sorry if you think speaking on various issues is being an "expert" on them. You need to broaden your circle of friends. Hanging out with people like Nehru or Cobra will only stunt your world view.

cain posted:

Nehru posted:

Prashad Bhai, In a Democracy even the ILLITERATE and IGNORANT has their voices heard!!!!!!!!!!!!

True dat, we encourage you an he both so we could get some good laff at your ignorance due to being too lazy to learn.

Dope head the DUMMY from Canada check in at Bellevue.

Prashad posted:

The ultimate aim of these types and these Toms like Caribbeanj and to a lesser extent Stormborn is to see the East Indians of Guyana disappear as a cultural and political force and ultimately a social force from the soil of Guyana. The myth that the East Indian never contributed anything of significance to Guyana runs deep. The myth that the East Indian is a common type of thief and sucker of economic blood from Guyana runs deep. It is similar to the myth of the Jew promoted by the Germanic people. We East Indian people have to instill in our children a sense of  pride in our history, We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children that they are members of a nation. We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children linguistic and cultural pride. Teach them to play a South Asian musical instrument and to learn Hindi or Sanskrit or Urdu. Teach them self defence by giving them the skills of a South Asian martial art. Teach the children to stop the Koolie crab dog fight up and embrace each other and the Dougla people ( as long as they stop carrying the slave master name) as brothers and sisters. It all helps them to achieve high self esteem and a sense of pride and identity. 

Well said Prashad. You have our support. 

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Stormborn posted:

Prashad posted:

The ultimate aim of these types and these Toms like Caribbeanj and to a lesser extent Stormborn is to see the East Indians of Guyana disappear as a cultural and political force and ultimately a social force from the soil of Guyana. The myth that the East Indian never contributed anything of significance to Guyana runs deep. The myth that the East Indian is a common type of thief and sucker of economic blood from Guyana runs deep. It is similar to the myth of the Jew promoted by the Germanic people. We East Indian people have to instill in our children a sense of  pride in our history, We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children that they are members of a nation. We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children linguistic and cultural pride. Teach them to play a South Asian musical instrument and to learn Hindi or Sanskrit or Urdu. Teach them self defence by giving them the skills of a South Asian martial art. Teach the children to stop the Koolie crab dog fight up and embrace each other and the Dougla people ( as long as they stop carrying the slave master name) as brothers and sisters. It all helps them to achieve high self esteem and a sense of pride and identity. 

Write your own story. Do not presume me a source. You are a bigot with a slanted, distorted view of the world so our positions will always be diametric. How can you teach the kids language when you are a cripple in that discipline? Most indian kids gravitate to the Guitar and drums because their idea of musicality is completely different from yours. Sadly, Indians do not seem to consider formal training in music a premium. Very few study western music much less the more difficult Indian tradition. They also learn Karate and kung fu more than grappling and tazia. It is not who they are. They are not South Asian but of the western tradition like you though less stunted.

Stormy,

 

Why don't you articulate the Amerindian problem and come with a solution since you love to talk like an expert on every matter. 

Yeah man!!! Give it to him Billy Ram . 

susan posted:

Wow! what a loonnngggg apology. 

"The weakness in that juxtaposition is that I sought to elevate party competition to the call to vote race. This is where I believe the column fell down. This is where I believe my analysis went in the wrong direction."

Way too many Guyanese do same as Freddie. There is a group on this site who appear to be unable to see it any other way. Maybe they will learn something from Freddie's apology?!

Who are in that group Susie? 

Stormborn posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Stormborn posted:

Stormy,

 

Why don't you articulate the Amerindian problem and come with a solution since you love to talk like an expert on every matter. 

I am sorry if you think speaking on various issues is being an "expert" on them. You need to broaden your circle of friends. Hanging out with people like Nehru or Cobra will only stunt your world view.

I think you need to ground with your Amerindian brothers to develop true sense who you actually are.  No amount of academic nurturing will fill that void. You need it brother.

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Stormborn posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Stormborn posted:

Stormy,

 

Why don't you articulate the Amerindian problem and come with a solution since you love to talk like an expert on every matter. 

I am sorry if you think speaking on various issues is being an "expert" on them. You need to broaden your circle of friends. Hanging out with people like Nehru or Cobra will only stunt your world view.

I think you need to ground with your Amerindian brothers to develop true sense who you actually are.  No amount of academic nurturing will fill that void. You need it brother.

Were you not confused as to what you are you would not be so easy to insist others are like you. I am quite grounded with who I am.

ian posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Stormborn posted:

Prashad posted:

The ultimate aim of these types and these Toms like Caribbeanj and to a lesser extent Stormborn is to see the East Indians of Guyana disappear as a cultural and political force and ultimately a social force from the soil of Guyana. The myth that the East Indian never contributed anything of significance to Guyana runs deep. The myth that the East Indian is a common type of thief and sucker of economic blood from Guyana runs deep. It is similar to the myth of the Jew promoted by the Germanic people. We East Indian people have to instill in our children a sense of  pride in our history, We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children that they are members of a nation. We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children linguistic and cultural pride. Teach them to play a South Asian musical instrument and to learn Hindi or Sanskrit or Urdu. Teach them self defence by giving them the skills of a South Asian martial art. Teach the children to stop the Koolie crab dog fight up and embrace each other and the Dougla people ( as long as they stop carrying the slave master name) as brothers and sisters. It all helps them to achieve high self esteem and a sense of pride and identity. 

Write your own story. Do not presume me a source. You are a bigot with a slanted, distorted view of the world so our positions will always be diametric. How can you teach the kids language when you are a cripple in that discipline? Most indian kids gravitate to the Guitar and drums because their idea of musicality is completely different from yours. Sadly, Indians do not seem to consider formal training in music a premium. Very few study western music much less the more difficult Indian tradition. They also learn Karate and kung fu more than grappling and tazia. It is not who they are. They are not South Asian but of the western tradition like you though less stunted.

Stormy,

 

Why don't you articulate the Amerindian problem and come with a solution since you love to talk like an expert on every matter. 

Yeah man!!! Give it to him Billy Ram . 

Yea...me fighting with him is like beating up on a kid.

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Stormborn posted:

Prashad posted:

The ultimate aim of these types and these Toms like Caribbeanj and to a lesser extent Stormborn is to see the East Indians of Guyana disappear as a cultural and political force and ultimately a social force from the soil of Guyana. The myth that the East Indian never contributed anything of significance to Guyana runs deep. The myth that the East Indian is a common type of thief and sucker of economic blood from Guyana runs deep. It is similar to the myth of the Jew promoted by the Germanic people. We East Indian people have to instill in our children a sense of  pride in our history, We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children that they are members of a nation. We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children linguistic and cultural pride. Teach them to play a South Asian musical instrument and to learn Hindi or Sanskrit or Urdu. Teach them self defence by giving them the skills of a South Asian martial art. Teach the children to stop the Koolie crab dog fight up and embrace each other and the Dougla people ( as long as they stop carrying the slave master name) as brothers and sisters. It all helps them to achieve high self esteem and a sense of pride and identity. 

Write your own story. Do not presume me a source. You are a bigot with a slanted, distorted view of the world so our positions will always be diametric. How can you teach the kids language when you are a cripple in that discipline? Most indian kids gravitate to the Guitar and drums because their idea of musicality is completely different from yours. Sadly, Indians do not seem to consider formal training in music a premium. Very few study western music much less the more difficult Indian tradition. They also learn Karate and kung fu more than grappling and tazia. It is not who they are. They are not South Asian but of the western tradition like you though less stunted.

Stormy,

 

Why don't you articulate the Amerindian problem and come with a solution since you love to talk like an expert on every matter. 

Yeah man!!! Give it to him Billy Ram . 

Yea...me fighting with him is like beating up on a kid.

You can't intimidate nor impress me with your daily rubbish you post on GNI.  

alena06 posted:

susan posted:

Wow! what a loonnngggg apology. 

"The weakness in that juxtaposition is that I sought to elevate party competition to the call to vote race. This is where I believe the column fell down. This is where I believe my analysis went in the wrong direction."

Way too many Guyanese do same as Freddie. There is a group on this site who appear to be unable to see it any other way. Maybe they will learn something from Freddie's apology?!

Who are in that group Susie? 

Take a wild guess 'Leni 

I would like to be in Group A (Lena) please!  I like smart people.

Drugb posted:

Looks like the PNC boys visited Freddie in the dead of the night.

And of course druggie cannot prove that there was any racism attributable to Trotman, so he must invent this inane response.

Freddie K never apologized to the PPP as his comments about them were fully justified.

Even Roger Luncheon had to admit that the PPP appointed fewer Africans than what would have been expected, given the talent pool.  When asked why, he claimed that he didn't know!

Zed posted:

I am still,interested in the meeting between trottman and granger.

He told you why they met, and it was to rid the nation of the PPP scourge.

Any more questions?

Prashad posted:

The ultimate aim of these types and these Toms like Caribbeanj

Africanized Indo Saxon, stop dribbling.

Prashad posted:

We East Indian people of Guyana have to teach our children linguistic and cultural pride. . 

What a hypocrite, given that your kids are only PART Indian, based upon your comments that your wife is of mixed African and European ancestry.

1.  YOU are diluting the pool of "Indian nationhood".

2.  You cannot be honest and scream that your half Indian off spring are part of an Indo nation.

Stormborn posted:

. They are not South Asian but of the western tradition like you though less stunted.

Yes, they are Africanized Indo Saxons, just like prashad himself.

They come from an Indo creole culture, which developed in the Caribbean. This continuing the residual remnants of the North Indian village peasant culture, and heavily impacted by the colonial regimes, and by the Afro creole culture that they were heavily exposed to.

These Indians had to survive in a British colonial regime (or Dutch in the case of Suriname, or French in Guadeloupe and Martinique).  They also had to be able to interact with the African and mulatto populations, which were the dominant group when they arrived.

That makes them Africanized Indo Saxons.

Prashad with his dougla kids, seems to have a problem.

Prashad posted:

No apology should have been made by FK. A seasoned politican is not going to make an out and out racist speech but may disguise it in coded words.

Jagdeo certainly did, and NEVER apologized.  And then we have Rohee agreeing with Jagdeo that the PPP is the "coolie people party".

The then PPP controlled Chronicle writing a WHOLE editorial damning blacks as useless savages and criminals.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

I would like to be in Group A (Lena) please!  I like smart people.

You have to pass the test girl!