That will not sway the Indians. I'm of the opinion that you have to make a hard "Indian Argument" for the Coalition. Not retreat from the racial issue at hand. A retreat only hands the "Indian" issue to the PPP. The PPP does not have anything "Indian" going for it aside from the fact that they are themselves Indian. That argument is not necessarily a winning one today for the PPP. Today's apaan jaat call requires some actual policies that will justify and earn one's apaan jaat.

I would recommend the AFC actually tell the Indians why APNU Jaat is the real apaan jaat.

They got 49 percent because the other side did not turn out.

The Indian vote count is less than 40 percent. The PPP does not release the numbers for no other reason.

the hard "Indian Argument" gave ROAR what? in 2001 and 2006

smfh

The PNC does NOT need Nagamootoo to get disaffected black voters out. 

So why then did the PNC give up 12 seats (all but guaranteeing that some APNU MPs, most likely those who Granger doesn't like)  and 40% of the cabinet positions to the AFC? 

Because you think that an ageing and not especially charismatic Indian man is going to get 25 y/o black women to vote?  When some never have, and many probably never bothered to ensure that they are on the voters' list, or know where they should show up to vote.

It planted the seeds in the Indian electorate that made the PPP Guyana's first and only Minority Government in 2011.

The fact is that it was the Indians that made the PPP a minority Government in 2011. And they didn't do so because they wanted some notion of AFC love and hugs among all Guyanese. They did so to punish the PPP for neglecting Indians. An idea let loose on the Indian population by ROAR.

Disaffected black reason need motivation. Motivation is the possibility is a win for their favored side. Nagamotto and the AFC facilitated that possibility.

I place no value on his age etc. The black woman would get out to vote because she knows with some Indian vote adding to the win potential for her side,  Nagamotto is the flicker of hope not there otherwise.

really now? . . . so tell us, why was ROAR, at the height of its influence/power, under 1% in 2001 and barely over 1% in 2006

Ideas take time to take hold, mature, and bear fruit.

Ideas take time to take hold, mature, and bear fruit. That an idea planted in about 2001 took about 10 years to fully show its effect is not strange or unbelievable. The PPP certainly acted like the walls of Freedom House were about to collapse in the face of ROAR and spent almost all their time, money and energy demonizing ROAR and then attempting to clumsily co-opt ROAR's agenda. ROAR may not have been electorally successful but they fundamentally changed the PPP and altered the Indian electorate. Which is why we're having this conversation of Indians voting against the PPP.

If the PPP loses come May 11th, I would not be shocked if the PPP is replaced with a stronger Indian party altogether or the PPP has to forever share political space with another "real" Indian party.

Indians voting for the AFC? in 2011 because of ROAR's hard "Indian Argument" . . . har har har harrr

The PPP is not being punished for corruption or incompetence by Indians. They're being punished for not being sufficiently pro-Indian. That is pretty hard for you to understand with your prepackaged narrative of PPP=Indo Supremacy but that is not the belief of the common Indian man.

Don't get lost in your illusions of Indesh and Indo Supremacy and Indo KKK and all that other nonsense.

The average Indian does not feel that the PPP represent him as an individual or as an ethnic group. They even believe that the PPP supports Blacks at the expense of Indian people. You may disagree but vast swathes of the PPP Indian vote believe this to be true.

The PPP is not being punished for corruption or incompetence by Indians. They're being punished for not being sufficiently pro-Indian. That is pretty hard for you to understand with your prepackaged narrative of PPP=Indo Supremacy but that is not the belief of the common Indian man.

i suggest u straighten out who exactly u want to address your answer to first before posting . . . u seem a little confused

when u get it all sorted out, i'll respond to something appropriate (however delusional) that u may post, arite?

 It was primarily aimed at you but I made it generic enough for Caribj so feel free to ignore the highlighted sentences as the rest sufficiently capture my thoughts I wished to share.

For My Dearly Beloved Parosin,

Try and follow me here. The average Indian is and feels neglected by the PPP because the PPP deliberately neglects them. This was the core argument of ROAR to Indians.

The average Indian does not feel that the PPP represent him as an individual or as an ethnic group. They even believe that the PPP supports Blacks at the expense of Indian people. You may disagree but vast swathes of the PPP Indian vote believe this to be true.

The PPP is not being punished for corruption or incompetence by Indians. They're being punished for not being sufficiently pro-Indian.

With My Warmest Affections,

I Have the Honour Sir etc. etc. & etc.

Herr Shaitaan

ROAR ended up a < 1% party with its hard "Indian Argument"

it has now shed its skin and found a home with the Jagdeoite PPP

give the revisionism a rest

I don't think you truly appreciate the power of ideas. Nor that you truly understand the average Guyanese voter. The average Indian voter does not vote PPP out of a love of PPP.

ROAR electorally failed because we had no adequate response to the "split the vote" argument. If the Indian vote is ever substantially split the PPP loses. The average Indian truly understands this. They are not the mindless automatons you fancy them to be.

Evidence 2011 when the Indian vote split just a little and the PPP lost Parliament. Now if it similarly splits again we will see the PPP lose office.

If AFC is destroyed electorally like ROAR, it will be because of the same devastating argument of "don't split the vote."

so, how come the AFC (unlike ROAR) successfully split the vote in 2011 riding Jaganite Moses Nagamootoo?

Are you saying the AFC in 2011 had a message that specially resonated with Indian voters that it didn't have in 2006?

Or that Nagamootoo is deeply beloved by Indians?

The AFC did not split the Indian vote in 2011. The PPP did. The PPP pissed off enough Indians who voted AFC as they had no where else to go. How come they didn't vote PNC?

are you saying that the 2011 surge in Indo votes for the AFC would have occurred without JAGANITE Moses Nagamootoo on board?

Absolutely! Without a doubt!

To assume the otherwise is to make a fundamental error in your political calculus there.

lol

anyways, i have a flight to catch . . . later

First of all, 90 percent of human daily lives is circumscribed by mathematics. It also covers esoteric analysis as the commonality of the dimensions of the Parthenon, a Debussy symphony and the location of your belly button. I also noted that there are theoretical possibilities to go even further.

Bean counting is addition and subtraction...nothing else. Probability is a little more complex but not beyond the conceptual grasp of most people. That is what we speak of here. 

DID they rent yu moma too?

They got 49 percent because the other side did not turn out. In a prefect world of sheer numbers Indians lose every time. In the future given the low immigration rates of non Indians that present 40 percent will fall even further. This race baiting feed fest will be over because it is Indians who would be asking for rational choice and a meritocracy. 

Indians are racist as hell so they will imagine the present APNU as all kinds of permutation of the boogieman factor and worse not up to par to running the state. APNU needs help persuading them not to vote against their interest because as it stands, the PPP is heaping all sorts of Karmic baggage on their shoulders.

The Indian vote count is less than 40 percent. The PPP does not release the numbers for no other reason.

Oh yea I forgot that the most popular man among the heavily populated Black areas of non-elite Georgetown is Mark Benschop who is actually liked and trusted by ordinary Blacks.

That he turned down a guaranteed seat from the Coalition says that he firmly believes that he can get 1 or more seats on his own. And he shows no sign of succumbing to the pressure to join the Coalition.

Mark is going to poach at least 1 or maybe more PNC seats.

DID they rent yu moma too?

Oh yea I forgot that the most popular man among the heavily populated Black areas of non-elite Georgetown is Mark Benschop who is actually liked and trusted by ordinary Blacks.

That he turned down a guaranteed seat from the Coalition says that he firmly believes that he can get 1 or more seats on his own. And he shows no sign of succumbing to the pressure to join the Coalition.

Mark is going to poach at least 1 or maybe more PNC seats.

How about 95 Percent Afros voting PNC ?

Shaitaaan Bhai

I have Mark for two seats. He will attract a young, educated  and mixed crowd. This will really hurt the PNC.

 Mark will not get one seat.

 Mark will not get one seat.

Is that why the Coalition can't seem to bribe Mark with a guaranteed seat?

As I said....and just over a month will prove me right...he will not get a seat and nowhere outside GT will he break a 500

Well I'm glad you seem to disagree with me David Granger. Granger must be bewitched by Mark if he genuinely fears Mark poaching 1 to 2 PNC seats.

Maybe you here in Merica know something he don't.

Granger is not afraid of Mark. He knows with him on the APNU side there would be another charged up knucklehead to send into the trenches as a foot soldier.